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French-speaking Linkebeek in Flanders-Report-EN-FRANCE24
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2007
- Linkebeek is a small rural locality just a few kilometres outside of Brussels. The town is 85% French-speaking, and dogged by communitary tensions.
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"These poor walloons are looked down upon by the Flemish locals."
As if the French elite never acted like that towards the Flemish on our own Flemish soil!
I support you my linguistic brother
I'm flemish but i don't fully agree,
I don't think we should judge a group of people based on something someone else did.
Flanders belongs to Spain.
I am extremely sadden by the Frenchisation of the Flemish towns.
Don't get me wrong - I don't mind French speakers in my town but they should adapt to one's surroundings not impose their language/culture on us.
How would they feel if I went to their town and refuse to address them in French and expert the town to bend over backwards?
If you move to a place with another language, learn that language and don't complain you 'are being held hostage'
Very true although I think they were probably born there.... remember this isn’t a foreign nation it is their country just a different region probably only 10 or so miles from the french speaking areas where they do the same to the Dutch... really it’s absurd, can’t they have a rule where if 50% or more people speak the language from the other region that it becomes official in that district.
@@tobeytransport2802 they are supposed to have these rights but the flemish government is very hostile
@@thegreypenguin5097 I see. Personally I’m a British person and thing you guys should do a bit more compromising. Have a great day!
@@tobeytransport2802
in fact it was the rule in the 60' when they created the region
not 50% but 20% if i remember well
@@tobeytransport2802 A lot of (+middle class) people from Brussels and Wallonie moved to Linkebeek the latter part of 20th century, so they are not from the town originally.
IF they were born in Linkebeek, they were born in a flemish community of Flanders and ought to be able to have learned Dutch at school.
If they don't speak dutch they, or their parents did that for them, have deliberitely sustained from learning Dutch .
Linkebeek is fairly wealthy 'villa suburb' and they ought to have means to learn dutch ..
They just don't want to.
Not to make a general information, I am French-speaking who live in Flanders and I respect and speak Dutch(Not perfect but I try), and I am not the only
one .
the problem is not that they are french. but they never try to speak dutch. Never. they allways assume that the flemish will addept to them. i work in a store in grimbergen(flanders), and i allmost never have a french speaking dutch. they even get mad when we dont speak dutch, because its belgium and we are one country. i feel like the flamish are the only people that try... look it at this way. when you have a groupwork in school... and you are the only one that is working on it and the others take the credits. would you be irritated?... if i go to walonie, then i speak french. to bad they never try. Split us then.
You'll never see a French speaking any other foreign languages unless he or she is in desperate need for help or doing business in a foreign land. The French believe that speaking French is what makes them French.......
The French has this sense of extreme national pride and patriotism. Maybe it would have been alright during the days of Napoleon but in today's globalised world, it can be somewhat irrational.
I see no lies in this post
As a Walloon, I agree with you. French-speaking belgians are disrespectful to the Flemish in regard of their language. They reckon on the cultural and demographic pressure of France to live in Flemish cities on the way they want. I'm really shocked when I see the walloons being afraid of the spliting for each election (and saying Belgium us one people that must stay united), but continue to say bad things about Flemish people once the elections are passed (such as "Flemish people are ugly, their language us awful..."). The walloon is the kind of people that always complains about things, but never do anything to change the situation and is only able to see history working despite of him. History doesn't care about your opinion. Only your actions can influence it.
brandenburg2388 exception for Quebec, 60% of the population are bilingual, they’re the only francophones who are open minded
I lived in Walonia for a long time, we spoke French and perfectly got by. Why is it so hard for French speakers to do the same when they come to Flanders? This is what people in Flemish towns around Brussels are now scared of.
@@spareemail8711 I agree
@@spareemail8711 french is declining in flanders
@@spareemail8711 dutch side of flanders are just getting richer and flemish speaking elites are requiring flanders to be more dutch speaking or no job
@@spareemail8711 absolutely not. French proficiency has been declining amongst the Flemish for decades, and the amount of French Belgians (especially Bruxellois) who bother to learn Dutch is actually increasing - though there are still more Flemish who speak French than Walloons who speak Dutch. All this because the north is much, much richer, internationally more important etc. Some reasons for this are that the Flemish speak English more fluently, tourist-magnets like Gent and Brugge and of course the enormous harbor of Antwerpen.
@pulsengine
Not the case actually. Belgium is split into three regions, Wallonia, Flanders, and Brussels. Wallonia is the French speaking one and it is the poorer region. 40% of the population of Belgium is French -speaking and 60% Dutch. While your comment may have been true in the late 1800s and early 1900s, it's no longer the case in Belgium.
The problem is that more and more french speakers are moving in flemish speaking neighborhoods pushing Flemish people out. Just look at Brussels that was flemish and now almost completely french. So Flemish schools disappear, flemish activities and shops disappear because the demand of french speaking things is just bigger. First they will make place for french speakers in a flemish school, and in a few years later it will become a french school. Our language is literally dying out with less speakers every year because often flemish speakers will just end up teaching their children french because they think it will be easier for them as they are surrounded by french speakers. In fact it was not long ago that the dutch language was prohibited. My grandparents all had to go to french speaking schools, and many lost their native language (my grandma included). Today while dutch people have to study the french language in school, the french do not. The language barrier is moving north and people are getting worried. These people are acting as if Flemish people try to ostracize them, while they just try to preserve their culture.
With the exception of Brussels and its surroundings, I think the language barrier has been stabilised since its demarcation during the sixties. It is not moving north anymore (like the last 1500 years), but it is expanding from the Brussels region.
Only the high society was french speaker in 1830. Flemish and Wallon had a few dialects. French was chose to have a common language because it was international (it's not anymore). You say that Wallon preserve their culture, it's exactly what Flemish did. A few decades ago Belgium wasn't a federal country, peoples was free to speak there language anywhere. The truth is that a minority a Flemish racist make more noise then the majority. There is no point to learn French or Dutch as a second language. Let's learn English to our kids and they will be able to talk with everybody in and out of Belgium. Bruxelles was already French during the revolution. Sorry to tell you that but with only 25 millions speaker in the world, Dutch is now a dialect and that's why it's dying
At least not endangered ,right ?
It is an insult again, from the francophone Belgians to call the language the non-francophone speak is Flemish. It is not, the official language of Flanders is Dutch. The Francophones who created Belgium in 1830 in a coup ‘d etat sponsored by the Vatican and the Republic of France. Before that, what is now called Belgium was a lively well-to-do part of the Netherlands. The Netherlands had the highest standard of living: they were not in warring arround - like their neighbors. So, the enlightened Netherlands were a huge source of envy for their neighbours. And, the Vatican reminded itself that the Southern parts of the Netherlands were . . . pretty catholic. So the Vatican and the French Republic cooked up a coup ‘d etat to create La Belgique . . . Overnight in a southern Belgian town of Liege, during a play in a live theater -French soldiers stormed on the podium (July 21 1830j and screamed, “VIVE LA BELGIQUE.” With French soldiers everywhere in the now - non-French speaking parts of now: Belgium and, called ‘Flanders’ by the French controlled New Belgian creation of a new kingdom. Germany would recognize them (La Belgique) if they could install a German-blooded king. So, the francophone in charge agreed to have a Saksen-Coburg supplied king and with him came the Belgian flag,: a rearrangement of the still current German flag.
Then, the francophone invaders decided, that the people in the north of - previously: the Southern-Netherlands spoke unidentifiable dialects, they called: “Les patois flamand.” The new Belgium nation did not even recognize that their countries majority did not speak French. French was enforced in every school. My Flemish mother would get punished by the school nuns for speaking Dutch on the playground. French was the dogma to destroy the back bone of the Southern Netherlands, now demeaningly called Flanders. It was not until 1947 that Dutch was recognized to be the language of what they now call Flanders. Not before that could a Fleming study high school or university in his or her native language.
Only in 1956 did Belgium produce a Dutch language copy of the constitution. So, for a Dutch speaking Fleming, who never felt home in Brussels - my cultural magnet was Amsterdam. Culturally I was very removed from Brussels where I was as a young Flemish man snubbed at and humiliated. Now, many many years later, Flanders is one of the mostw prosperous parts of Europe. In contrast, the Belgian French speaking part of Wallonia is an economically trouble area in current European context. Except, Brussels with all its Euro government and NATO Capital is doing well, living offgovernmental excesses from many countries flowing into Brussels. And, now, some of the off-spring of the Flemish haters move North into Flanders . . . and, want to continue their Flemish hate and, moving into tiny, rich Flanders . . . pretending . . . they do not know Fleming’s speak Dutc. They always pretend Flanders does not exist. And, that is why the days of La Belgique are counted. Belgium is a misscariage fabricated to destroy the strength of the Netherlands - with the plan to add La Belgique to La Republique Francaise - sometime down the road.
‘Au revoir, et pour les flamands, la meme chose.’
Belgium is a legal, economical and cultural miscarriage.
It would be appropriate if the Dutch-speaking region of Belgium be returned to the Netherlands or be granted outright independence, while the French-speaking region can rejoin France if they want. It is not easy to force two culturally very different communities to live together as one country but practicing two different set of languages and cultures....
Wrong wrong wrong and wrong again. The french speaking community existed in ''belgium'' way before it was created. Also belgium was created to serve as a meat Shield in order to prevent France from invading neighbors countrys such as Germany. This is the oversimplified story. Stop being a racist bigot
One mistake france was a kingdom in 1830
@@Ab-cz1iiin wallonia but not in Flanders and thats including Brussels
What a biased report... all interviews and opinions were from french-speaking citizens. Journalism at it's finest /sarcasm
85% of the residents were french speaking so, yea
It was an interview for france24, they likely got the interviews in French originally, regardless of native language
I'm dreaming of a really multillingual Belgium and not a Belgium that's split in two halves, a Belgium where you can order something in Dutch in Dinant and ask for directions in French in Hasselt, very much like in Luxembourg. I enjoyed it very much to swap from one language to the other there. In Belgium people are likely to feel offended by trying to do the same.
speaking dutch in dinant is way more probable than having a french speaker in hasselt
When in Flanders, respect the langue and culture of Flanders (= Dutch). Why is this so difficult?
I'm happy referring to your language as Dutch. How do you regard Afrikaans? I visited South Africa in 1994 and woke up thinking I was in Holland listening to the TV:-) Cape Town (Kaapstad) had a very European feeling then. I felt really at home.
Then leave Flandern.
The majority of the Flemish speaks French, they have to make effort to learn the language.
But then I see the Wallons, whom don't speak Dutch, atleast the majority. Dus ik zelfs als Nederlander span mij in om Frans te leren en te begrijpen. Ik weet wel donders goed dat de meeste Vlamingen het wel zat zijn.
This is interesting from my point as an English speaker. I am now learning Welsh (Cymraeg) as this is the Senior Language of the UK. I have took faltering first steps learning Irish too. I speak some French which Flemish people understand from my experience travelling through Belgium since 1993 "Il parle Francais". I speak a lot of portuguese and was nearly fluent in the early 1990s. In an area of different nationalities I think both cultures need totry to respect the other
Went to Brussels where it's pretty mixed. I speak French and the Flemish speakers will instantly speak English back to me.
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Exactly, for my grandfather, that be the same thing, but it had still a little its Flemish identity. And I adored my grandfather.
@Allichan01 Dat is wel wat overdreven. Enkel rond te taalgrens staan borden tweetalig aangeduid. En dat zowel in Vlaanderen als Wallonië. Ik weet niet hoe het daar in Leuven zit. zowel aan de taalgrens in West-Vlaanderen als die in Henegouwen staan borden tweetalig. Natuurlijk weet ik niet hoe het elders gaat. Maar als het hier lukt... waarom dan elders niet?
To be honest I am extremely unsure - but I would say it's entirely depend on your knowledge of French and also the ability to adapt your accent to a French one.
French speakers are less likely to know Flemish than us Flemish knowing French.
Leterme is opgegroeid als Vlaming, zit in het Vlaams parlement, is dus volkomen Vlaams. En het belangrijkste: Hij spreekt vloeiend Nederlands, wat jij niet kan. (en nu moet je niet beginnen over de ouders van Leterme, dat weet ik, wijsneus)
holland rules,ik hoop dat we snel bij jullie kunnen komen
Learns how to read, I never said that French was the only official language !
Dombo.
I really do not understand the politicians in Belgium, how great and wonderful that they can speak both languages.
Yes - Dutch in the North is Rhotic
Flemish R's is non rhotic which is similar to German spoken in the North.
germany culture? don't tell the dutch that--they lost thousands to that 'germany' culture in WWII
we kunnen het mss verder in het nderlands doen. Wrm zouden we alleen moeten kijken naar Linkebeek, alsof linkebeek heel Brussel moet voorstellen. Ik zeg, laten we terug gaan in de tijd naar die streek, waar er ffs dorpen waren, met of zonder linkebeek! Dat was Vlaanderen, spraken ze Nederlands (dialect), en was er de Vlaamse cultuur. Doe normaal jongen, en accepteer de feiten. Wrm denk je dat fransen meededen in bijv het bouwen? we waren bezet, verdomme, leer je geschiedenis es.
Hello¡
Hegel mention a "Germanic culture" in the west of Europe with the Carolus Magnus empire during the medieval epoch
Netherland is a "Germanic culture"
Yet again, you proved you know nothing about Belgium and the way belgian people think. It will not come to a referendum for such a small matter. It even took us an eternity to divide BHV.
Yet again another fact you seem to be not knowing about belgian people. THe majority of the flemish people speaks french as well and respects the french language. Whereas a lot of french speaking can't speak flemish as they don't see the point in learning our language. You were talking about respect?
Being English and being able to speak some French, could I be accused of speaking French with a "Flemish" accent? Both Flemish and English are West Germanic languages.
Amsterdam is smaller and with a higher percentage of tourist in his small historical center...but they're gentle!
I'm afraid that people in paris are just unpolite
0:24 you mean ‘but Flemish is the official language’ not ‘so’ because so would imply that french people speak fleemish
@Adri88MXBR
I have no hesitation speaking French in a Francophone area - But when they come over to Flemish speaking areas - why must we bend over backwards for them? Have you not forgotten the history of discrimination of the Flemish language thru-out most of our history? They are quick to play victim and forget that they too were holding the knife at some point.
Look at Leterme for example, its dad is Walloon everyone know it. But he was in a Flemish school, and now one cannot say that it does not have the Flemish identity,no? I see it with my two daughters who never had the French-speaking itentity.
Ah nice, a new game for languages, nice
@Allichan01 inderdaad dat ga ik niet tegenspreken. er zijn daar gewoon meer werklozen. dat is een feit. Maar zou je dan niet beter de wortels van het probleem aanpakken? We blijven één land en ik denk dat we er samen moeten uitkomen. Noord- en Zuid-Frankrijk hebben ook een andere cultuur en werkloosheid. oké hun taal is wel dezelfde dat is waar.
Maar is taal nu zo'n probleem? ...
In the cities with facilities, it is a problem, because there is sometimes more than 80% people who speak French. They do not have much occasion to speak Dutch. The solution for me would be to remove the French-speaking schools of the area. Their children would be automatically bilingual and later unilingual. But it is not for that it is necessary to separate the country in two !!!
why is this a reply on what I said? Did I said something about the number of people wanting Flanders independant?
(btw: I heard (not so long ago) more than half of Flemish people want indepency) (probably another survey)
but this doestn mean french speaking people have to demand things in a country that isnt theirs!
Its about the same in Elsass-Lothringen! The names are German but they speak French!!
@Adri88MXBR
Yeah the government can throw in laws to encourage multilingualism in the country but in the end it's really up to the people to take up such an opportunity.
What language do you speak in Flemish territory ?
Dutch
French
Well it's a tricky issue - the Dutch say it's Dutch.
The Flemish would say it's Flemish. Flemish has it's unique words and the accent is different from Dutch.
Afrikaans LOL it's basically 16th Century Dutch with an infusion of African, German, English and even French. It's a totally different language in it's down right.
@Allichan01 ... het lijkt misschien een dom voorbeeld, maar toch. Ik woon zelf in Kortrijk op 10 km van de Franse grens en op 7 km van Wallonië. Ik Kortrijk komen veel Fransen een dagje winkelen.in de randgemeenten werken veel of franstaligen (Kooigem) Ik ga elk weekend en spreek Frans en waar zij kunnen slaan ze een woordje Nederlands tussen.
En degene die meest gaan klagen over Walen zijn dan de mensen die er het vest vanaf wonen; ik ben dus overtuigd dat de politiek ons tegen elkaar opzet.
A dangerous Neonazi flemish country? Are you out of your mind? Do you even know anything about my country? Stop insulting me and my origine at once.
And for the record, you've given me enough proof you don't know anything about Belgium. Our king merely has a ceremonial function and doesn't even have any power whatsoever. Stop making a fool out of yourself
oh sorry dat wist ik niet,ik dacht dat je van holland was XD
yeah for a second you almost called yourself belgian!
BRUSSELS NOT WALLON !!!!
Belgium is not bilingual. Brussels is. Flanders has Flemish as official. Wallonia has French as official. The German speaking community has German in the east of Liège province. That’s pretty much it. Respect the language of the jurisdiction
The Belgian should look to Switzerland, they manage to coexist with 4 languages!
sushi777300 not anymore
@@pastelpepe Yes they do, what are you talking about?
No Isochest, the Dutch spoken in Flanders is not as similar to English as the Dutch spoken in the Netherlands in terms of pronunciation. For example, Dutchmen will pronounce R the same way English people, whereas our R is more neutral, like in German.
And NeoFalcon, yes, you are right.
It's not simple - there is simply more to this. The French speakers claim of "discrimination" why don't they see the historical forms of discrimination against the Flemish.
Do you think I enjoy having my taxes sent to the South to support people who refuses to acknowledge my language, culture as equals to theirs?
Do you think living here and having my local shop keeper refusing to address me at his shop because I spoke French with a "Flemish" accent? And yes the last example is true.
Language barrier as been from the time of immemorial, the Belgian must have an official language.
The real solution is: The future independent Flemish kingdom and the future independent Wallonia kingdom would be a new Commonwealth with a same king, the actual king of Belgium or a british king, for example Charles III Windsor and Camilla
Why would they need a british king ?? They already have their own monarchy... And most importantly... Are not british...
@@1000eau Hello, 1000eau. Have you a nice day
I think the great Charles and Camilla or Harry and Meghan Windsor could be a freat future Kings for Wallonia and the Flemish Kingdoms
@@marcoantoniogodoy9526 Ummm, why not just take members of the current Belgian royal family?
And the surinam, the Dutch West Indies, and even South Africa (That the inhabitants changed the language because they found too much complicated) It is not colonization?
The movie is wrong about saying that "Flemish" is a language - it isn't. It's the term used for "Belgian" Dutch in general. The official language in Linkebeek is Dutch, not Flemish. There is even no such thing as "the" flemish language.
There is no superior culture, there are just different cultures and languages. if you deprive yourself of getting to know your neighbour's language at least respect him ... this is true for both sides... thanx! and stop making vulgar arguments on french or flemish because ther are people coming from both
@Adri88MXBR
Whoever is in power is put there by the people of Belgium and it paints an obvious picture that we are deeply divided politically.
dutch and belgium are almost the same--just dialect differences.
oh no?
toutes francophones : si tu adaptes et parler néérlandais a flandres, il n y a pas un problème
c'est ça simple
Hello Kevin, a hug for you
Wallonia and Flanders contries would be independents kingdoms,y a very far off future
However, in a referendum in both countries during 2014,the majority of the people will say NOT independence, YES with the union in Belgium.
Thanks to both you Bitterswoon (for pointing out language differences) and to NeoFalcon69, but regarding NeoFalcon69's experience it sounds as if this French speaker was being nasty. I don't get much chance to practise French much: I speak Portuguese much better but that's another story.
het nieuwsblad 11th July:
Only 30 % for a independant Flanders !!!
The truth !!!
As far as I know, time travelling is still not an option with modern technology. So saying they would be independent COUNTRIES are just plain assumptions. And I say countries, not kingdoms because as far as I know we only have one king and i doubt, if it came to a division, that he would stay king.
@MrBondke zie de jaloerse Nederlander. en als ik je vertel dat jullie Nederlands eigenlijk ontstaan is in het BElgische Brabant, dan doe je waarschijnlijk alsof je van niets weet en zal je dat ten stelligste ontkenning... dus eigenlijk is Hollands gewoon Vlaams. dus eigenlijk zouden jullie Flemish spreken en geen dutch...
zoek wat bete op. natuurlijk zijn dat geen dingen die je in Nederlandse schoolboeken zal vinden... stel je voor zeg.
Yeah some French speakers and but I must add that this is a minority. They can be extremely rude often reverting to insults.
We often would converse in a "neutral language" like German or English.
WALEN BUITEN
Ik ken het Nederlands, en ik ben niet Waals maar Belg!Mijn famillië is "mixte"!
Als je iets niet kent zwijg je er beter over!
The flamingants pollute the site with their comments of intolerance and rejection of the other, and they think that they are right....It is sad!
LEVE BELGIE!!!
Schools here even have mandatory spanish classes for elementary school and the school i attended for elementary became a bi lingual magnet school after i graduated. All the kids in my kindergarten class that only spoke english spoke spanish fluently when we graduated.
I'm Italian and I prefear to speak dutch instead of french even in Brussel,the language is horrible but netherlandish people are gentle and king if I ask them something...never heard about the rough manners of the french?
it's not me it's you no it's you , its not me .... yeah right.. a superiority complex hu...so what ?you mean you have an inferiority one? or maybe you have a superiority one since you've explaining the favourable position of flanders throughout history and then the walloons have an inferior one....oh i got it : a pissing contest...
In history all of Belgium+ Artesia in France, was all dutch speaking. But the french language took over, so dutch disappeared in all of Wallonia. Don't let this happen to the rest of Belgium. All of Belgium should be speaking dutch.
maybe you should go back to school to learn history.
Most of Wallonia has been francophone for the past two thousand years. The same counts for most of the region of Artois. The north of Artois and certain parts of northern Wallonia have a long history with Dutch dialects though. Northern Artois even had partially standardized Dutch administration in the 17th and 18th centuries. Ruminghem and Polincove were the last Artesian villages to lose their Dutch dialects in de decades after WW1.
Dutch (its dialects) mostly lost terrain in northern France, particularly in the vicinity of Lille, in the Westhoek, in northern Artois and along the Opal Coast. Dutch was gradually replaced by French (and its dialects/Picard) throughout the Middle Ages and (Early) Modern Period. Some Dutch/Belgians nevertheless manage to exaggerate how much was assimilated into French/Picard/Walloon. You are one of them. I have to agree with Albert.
I am of agreement with you, the French-speaking people of Flanders must make the effort to learn Dutch, and stop saying that French is a language international, me I do it, so well that my children does not speak French!
Portuguese, eh? Me, I'm learning Spanish right now. I've gotten to the point where I can read it without too much difficulties, but don't ask me to speak it fluently.
NeoFalcon: would just like to point out that we speak Dutch, not Flemish. The designation of 'Flemish' as a language is a trick perpetrated by francophones to make our language seem insignificant and localised. Other than that, it's just plain factually wrong; objectively speaking, there is no such thing as a Flemish language.
I really felt very bad last year when I heard that Belgium having a big problems with both community.I speak dutch but I love Belgium and hate to be divide.Long Live BELGIUM.
Flanders can be seen as a country, because first of all, it almost is, second, we have our own culture and language, that is different of that of the walloons. Second, if u wonna go back in time, lets go back in time early enough. Lets go back to medival ages. You'll see that people spoke Dutch in that region, even more south they spoke Dutch. It all changed around the period 'belgium' was made, to hold 2 countries from attacking each other again!!! So...suddenly change?
based vlamingen
groeten uit NL
"Ik ken het Nederlands", typte je enkele posts gelezen. Als dit nederlands is dan ben ik de paus. Je moet zeggen: jij bent zielig , en niet zielig jij bent, domme waal. ffs zeg, jullie hebben ook altijd hulp van Vlamingen nodig e, grow up!
Why the extremist position on language? If people there can speak both French and Flemish, why shouldn't they communicate in either language among themselves? Really, linguistic differences can be settled amicably. They're all Belgians, not immigrants from eastern or southern Europe, the Middle East or Asia, the Americas or Africa, anyway.
what do people coming from both have to do with this? Thats their problem. So there are different cultures and languages, but if one group benefits too much from another, you are asking for trouble.
Dus Leterme is niet vlaams...
its not about that , its about the ping pong insults that seem to be the rule, its not gonna ...wait anyway what am i wasted my time with that , i respect flemmish people and the french on to, that's my point, i'm afraid you're not gonna go far insulting each other, i'm not talking tabout "you" but i'm sick about the number of hostile messages and ... anyway go to war i dont mind
Kevin
Give a temporal power our King and he will save the liberty, democracy and unity of the kingdom of Belgium
Being an Englishman looking in on this, I have the impression that French is the dominant language in Belgium with Flemish becoming a minority. It seems as though French is more 'classy' and 'respectable'.
Come to India
? No sh t country
top of 100 ahahahahaa
french is on the top 3
25 millions is nothing on the world....
50 percent goes to the Netherlands, 45 percent to France and 5 percent to Germany. Problem solved, let's all go home and have a beer or glass of wine.
ja ik ben racist, en 1 die jullie walen nog het meest van al haat ook. daar kun je idd geen commentaar op geven.
I love italia , you have amazing girls! ^^. In France we have a lot of tourist , so we cant be nice with all of them it's impossible, we are human... And sometimes the asked stupid question , like "where is the metro?" omg ! ...
lol, is that ur respons? obviously i told u something u didnt want to know xD I always pwn walloons, so funny ^^
I have a solutions, let's just speak in English. It's a great middle point.
@TheBestAmerican eerst zagen over Nederlands of Frans... dus spreke we maar engels... yeah right... meneer de neonazi
French is a international language, and how much Englishmen or German speaks another language that their native tongue? Not much, I can say it to you. Obviously when one has a language like native tongue little spoken in the world, one is obliged to speak others. Still frustration poor thing....
A referendum? No. Not in this case.
quote @delamotteh : "The harbour of Anvers will be soon weakened by the harbour of Rotterdam and the Dutch!"
For the record: the harbour of ANTWERP is still growing, as is Rotterdams. As a matter of fact, they're growing towards each other and it has simply become a matter of time before the two meet, fuse and become world's largest harbour (I'm talking about decades here, though).
Also, it's YOUR people that still live of OUR hard-earned money. Separation is inevitable with shit like this.
its just stupid to say its absurd, just because 85% speaks french. This is flemish territory, if i go for example to england with my whole family. Many people of my family got ellected in that town, etc. And then we demand that the language in that town, is dutch? will the english people accept this? I dont think so, so why would the Flemish people?