Watchers exist for all three obvious spots, wards are now for the sneaky spots. They have to be careful with supports, supports are already the strongest hero's in the game, dictating how lanes go in the early game, setting up kills. And all the items they can buy to help, glimmer, force, euls, pavise etc. If they buff supports too much it'll ruin the flow of the game. Pos 4 is so happy right now I think will all the rotation potential
played some game and I always ask the supports to place some wards in the most unusual spots. It doesn't matter if can't cover a large area as long we can see who is passing through and hard to deward is okay
fun fact: you can place wards "inside" of outposts (to some extent) and watchers. Those aren't necessarily better spots, but maybe more unexpected ones
The dire top half area is the easiest spots for me to control as a support because if you perfectly setup the ward you'll get a straight line coverage that covers half of the dire map jungle which will protect your core from jungling the perfect spots are --- 1:34, 2:35 or 2:48 and near mid 1st tower. If you perfectly set it up your core will be safe in the jungle and can easily retreat if there's a gank coming (except the sod lol), the downside is that the bottom area will experience blackout lol.
I'm not sure how many people have noticed this, but there are little cliffs dotted throughout the map that are inaccessible without mobility spells or items, but they give great vision. I always put my wards there because they aren't blocked by trees. It's kind of hard to find them, but the hint is that they have little eye symbols on them.
Great vid man. Actually a proper warding guide would be great so more people figure out the importance of vision and warding in general. Maybe reaching out to some more advanced players would be a great content. But even a simple theory in a form of "want to win a fight - put a ward on a cliff" or "if you lost a fight - don't ward enemy base" or smth.
This is a very good video as of the latest patch. I really appreciate your reference from the Pro Games which is a great tip for most players in competitive games☺️🎉 Keep posting more like this video 👍
i recomend placing ward in sentinel outpost in middle map. it encompass so much space. it can be use defensive or offensive to keep your jungle safe for carry to farm
"as long as it last the whole teamfight duration" fucking exactly hate it when people tries to ward an area just for it to be absolutely useless or they actually ward while fighting but doesnt give any vision at all, just place the ward as long as you can see everyone while teamfighting then it serves its purpose already, I remember losing in a tournament because the support didnt want to ward a spot while teamfighting even when they are safe, ended up losing the whole thing.
gotta think differently now, early on its more bout feeling safe. later its to see rotation. lastly its for mid fight vision, which you plant mid/just before jumping. just like pushing for rax. and honestly, i feel like its easier with tonnes of objective to do in this patch. dont really need ward to know where enemy team is.
Sick content, extremely informative (more than the tooltips thats for sure haha). I would love to understand how the ember spirits "sleight of fist" works cause it always is a question of whether its the closest target, or its random. Would really love to see that and god speed to you bro, keep making sick and informative content!
Thanks for the informative video! For future videos do you think you could include the minimap so inexperienced players like me can see where the spot is on the map
Glad you found it informative! I added a minimap in the corner so it's easier to tell where I'm talking about. Were you talking about something different?
i have been abusing that panda ward for a while because of a 5up post on reddit on warding and slarks in my opponent team are having a rough time finding it, lots of good vision
sometimes i will just place an easy ward just to see where they are warding. if they deward me, i know i can use other spots to ward and they wont deward those.
Getting to immortal rank was one of my biggest dreams... I was a 2k player a year ago... I was 3k 6 months ago... and now I'm 5.2k sup player... I found this video very useful now! I hope these new wards placements that I learned here can carry me to my dreams! thanks ♥
@@Interloper322 which part is not possible? are u one of those who think u can't rankup as sup? play strong sup heros and outplay enemy sup who is sometimes a core player forced to play sup and win lane... u are half way there! then with providing good vision and using ur spells well u should win most games... I had 60% winrate on my grind journey... It's 58% winrate now because higher ranks=harder games
@@MersadSBenz what server? I have a much higher winrate when I carry myself than play supp. Because my carry can never last hit and refuse to take objectives. This is like every other game. 5 enemies dead, carry goes to farm jungle. You cannot win a game as a supp if your carry doesn't want to take throne
@@Interloper322 Europe... we have some unlucky games but u still can rankup... rn I have like 5 or 6 lose streak because my teammates aren't tryhard and pick bad... but after I got 13 win streak! so overall I'm winning more and gaining mmr... support is not a booster role! but definitely able to rankup
3 minutes. It won't spawn back if there's something in the way though, like a ward or unit. Once the unit moves the tree will spawn (if it has been 3 minutes)
Imagine being support in this big map with low number ward and get blamed "NO VISION REPORTED" by pos 1 carry and midlaner while helping low gpm juggernaut offlane True story tho
Not to brag but I've done almost everything they did (pros) and I haven't watched the last tournament since the new patch. I think the support life really chose me.
@@zzadrianzz1. How their supports gank/rotate to mid "what's trigger it". 2. Dyrachyo(carry) pattern farm on the new map(How Dire/Radiant). 3. What specific hero did they pick when they banned certain heroes. 4. What makes they smoke gank? 5. How they dominate the tournament, with only losing 4 games in 12 series(What's the key). Remember to put an eye-catching thumbnail. So ur channel gets more recognized. And do research immediately and upload quickly.
Nice. i think i'll beat 6-7k very very soon, because i did it without watching pro games 😂 really surprised about wards, but ye, here are 2 some interesting wards, that i didn't use: on top with medium camp and on bot near t2
there are 2 wards on top big camp near base and on bot at the same big camp, nice vision, if u are under attack, or u can find defender, which gone to farm these camps
Just remove destroyable wards and sentry. The support buy 3 permanent yellow ward and 6 permanent blue ward where you can channel it to pick it up. Nowadays it took 10 minutes for queing mid or safe lane and support is like... 10 second. Support needs buff or this game gonna dead
As a support player, i find that wards and sentries are not enough for me in big new map. We need more wards and sentries! SUPPORT VOICE MATTER!
Watchers exist for all three obvious spots, wards are now for the sneaky spots.
They have to be careful with supports, supports are already the strongest hero's in the game, dictating how lanes go in the early game, setting up kills. And all the items they can buy to help, glimmer, force, euls, pavise etc.
If they buff supports too much it'll ruin the flow of the game. Pos 4 is so happy right now I think will all the rotation potential
excuse me, you wanna party and have some time together?
Instead of spamming sentries, win team fights. Take map control with a gem.
Plus to add, when ur team kills rosh you get loads of vision, as all watchers activate for you
Some wards lives for 1-2 min while others lives for 6+ min
This was very helpful because after the update got really confused where to properly put wards
Thank you! Glad you found it helpful sir GIGACHAD
@@zzadrianzz yeah especially when suandeaz happens lmao
Coz so many spot for warding, now is hard for deward 😢
Bro. Hold down alt and recommended spots will circle.
thats kinda the point of new patches doe
The vision minigame is my favorite and it's always fun to see it develop, specially in a new map!
100% me too. I was very happy there were lots of map changes for this reason.
thats why saksa plays slark 4
played some game and I always ask the supports to place some wards in the most unusual spots.
It doesn't matter if can't cover a large area as long we can see who is passing through and hard to deward is okay
fun fact: you can place wards "inside" of outposts (to some extent) and watchers. Those aren't necessarily better spots, but maybe more unexpected ones
The dire top half area is the easiest spots for me to control as a support because if you perfectly setup the ward you'll get a straight line coverage that covers half of the dire map jungle which will protect your core from jungling the perfect spots are --- 1:34, 2:35 or 2:48 and near mid 1st tower. If you perfectly set it up your core will be safe in the jungle and can easily retreat if there's a gank coming (except the sod lol), the downside is that the bottom area will experience blackout lol.
I'm not sure how many people have noticed this, but there are little cliffs dotted throughout the map that are inaccessible without mobility spells or items, but they give great vision. I always put my wards there because they aren't blocked by trees. It's kind of hard to find them, but the hint is that they have little eye symbols on them.
Nice sarcasm
Great vid man. Actually a proper warding guide would be great so more people figure out the importance of vision and warding in general. Maybe reaching out to some more advanced players would be a great content. But even a simple theory in a form of "want to win a fight - put a ward on a cliff" or "if you lost a fight - don't ward enemy base" or smth.
This is a definition of a good explanatory video.
This is a very good video as of the latest patch. I really appreciate your reference from the Pro Games which is a great tip for most players in competitive games☺️🎉
Keep posting more like this video 👍
another W from this channel, came outta nowhere and just drops great content
Thanks a bunch!
@@zzadrianzz ^^
Very helpful! Looking forward to using these spots in game
This is a huge help my sir, I can't wait for your take on new items
I play pos 4/5, and I think that with the new map, warding spots have become really interesting! Thanks for the video man
i recomend placing ward in sentinel outpost in middle map. it encompass so much space. it can be use defensive or offensive to keep your jungle safe for carry to farm
wait wtf i didn't even think of these ward spots, thats insane
Theres also a ward placement radiant jungle between the bounty rune and outpost just have to cut a single tree in the high ground.
"as long as it last the whole teamfight duration" fucking exactly hate it when people tries to ward an area just for it to be absolutely useless or they actually ward while fighting but doesnt give any vision at all, just place the ward as long as you can see everyone while teamfighting then it serves its purpose already, I remember losing in a tournament because the support didnt want to ward a spot while teamfighting even when they are safe, ended up losing the whole thing.
0:45 I always wondered why they added this small rock in that place
very good video i was wondering this the entire patch
gotta think differently now, early on its more bout feeling safe.
later its to see rotation.
lastly its for mid fight vision, which you plant mid/just before jumping. just like pushing for rax.
and honestly, i feel like its easier with tonnes of objective to do in this patch. dont really need ward to know where enemy team is.
Sick content, extremely informative (more than the tooltips thats for sure haha). I would love to understand how the ember spirits "sleight of fist" works cause it always is a question of whether its the closest target, or its random. Would really love to see that and god speed to you bro, keep making sick and informative content!
Thank you!
And I actually did a video talking about Sleight of Fist. You can find it here
ruclips.net/video/z8MLOAGfxb8/видео.html
I'm gonna miss most of the old sneaky ward spots lol now they're usually overlapped by the watchers or they're blocked by trees or other obstacles.
Near Radiant outpost there are 3 trees (on the right of the outpost), cut the one closer to the rune, and the spot is great for the ward
No fillers No bullshit, only straight to the point guide. Awesome content 🫡
dewarding all this obs feels like impossible to do as a supp now since the map is way bigger
Yeah, sentries now feel more like a defensive tool against invis heroes rather than anything else.
This guy just showed how hard the support life is
Your videos are very helpful! Wish you could do a vid on Morphling's Morph ability.
Just what I need man. Ima rewatch this vid while I am queuing 😊
Good luck, have fun in your games!
There is a ward spot I use when sieging high ground T3. Place it just outside of the defenders gate and it'll give you vision of high ground.
what I've learned is that I should start buying them placeable eye thingies
haha yes, eye thingies definitely good, especially the free ones
Thanks for sharing sneaky tips.
i love your channel and voice man!!
Thanks for the informative video! For future videos do you think you could include the minimap so inexperienced players like me can see where the spot is on the map
Glad you found it informative!
I added a minimap in the corner so it's easier to tell where I'm talking about. Were you talking about something different?
i have been abusing that panda ward for a while because of a 5up post on reddit on warding and slarks in my opponent team are having a rough time finding it, lots of good vision
I tried this in a game, since we already losing, I experiment in the outer parts of the maps and the thumbnail photo was one of those spotsm
sometimes i will just place an easy ward just to see where they are warding. if they deward me, i know i can use other spots to ward and they wont deward those.
Some are still having trouble finding wards and sentries in their shop. :)
my enemies are watching this too
my team like to ward the same exact place where the enemy just dewarded not 1 minute ago.
Finally support's life support 🎉
support is the most difficult role to play
Russian approach: "Wards are wards, just place anywhere!".
Thanks dude, this video is very helpful!
Getting to immortal rank was one of my biggest dreams... I was a 2k player a year ago... I was 3k 6 months ago... and now I'm 5.2k sup player... I found this video very useful now! I hope these new wards placements that I learned here can carry me to my dreams! thanks ♥
How is that even possible? You play party?
@@Interloper322 which part is not possible? are u one of those who think u can't rankup as sup? play strong sup heros and outplay enemy sup who is sometimes a core player forced to play sup and win lane... u are half way there! then with providing good vision and using ur spells well u should win most games... I had 60% winrate on my grind journey... It's 58% winrate now because higher ranks=harder games
@@MersadSBenz what server? I have a much higher winrate when I carry myself than play supp. Because my carry can never last hit and refuse to take objectives. This is like every other game. 5 enemies dead, carry goes to farm jungle. You cannot win a game as a supp if your carry doesn't want to take throne
@@Interloper322 Europe... we have some unlucky games but u still can rankup... rn I have like 5 or 6 lose streak because my teammates aren't tryhard and pick bad... but after I got 13 win streak! so overall I'm winning more and gaining mmr... support is not a booster role! but definitely able to rankup
Great video, very helpful thank you!
Thanks! :]
Good content, subbed
for this map, 2-4 gems are well spent in a good game just to deward
Great vid man
Thank you :)
Very smart!
Cutting the tree willnt warn the enemy support about the ward?
What was that rune in 4:56😅
great info! thanks!
Damn who is this guys. Tks alot this really helpful
Can you explain how Enchantress' 3rd spell work?
Idk but they should've just add more observer limit, like 2 more. Considering how big the map is now.
Ótimo material Primo, muito obrigado por todos os insights.
Please explain the new Arc Warden
Looks like dire is way more easier to ward or its just me?! So much sneaky spots compare to the radiant side!
Thank you adrian
Thank you Master Oogway 🙌
Nice ward spots for sup players or core
how much time does trees remain cut?
3 minutes.
It won't spawn back if there's something in the way though, like a ward or unit. Once the unit moves the tree will spawn (if it has been 3 minutes)
@@zzadrianzzohh ok ty for info and amazing videos :)
i should start buying casual gem if im ahead to deward and drop at base, impossible to cover everyrthing nowadays
I love this channel dude
tyvm, great video
Great and helpful video
useful video. Like!
Bro, you sound exactly like this guys hyperplexed
Made a video about Nyx new ability "mind flare".
Imagine this kind of map in league of legends.
10/10 would watch again
The map soo big that make deward seems impossible or will likely make u broke
Why now i dont feel safe both lane..lol
Imagine being support in this big map with low number ward and get blamed "NO VISION REPORTED" by pos 1 carry and midlaner while helping low gpm juggernaut offlane
True story tho
Needlessly cutting trees 🌳 is or isn't a high-level mind game. Feel like you wouldn't know a tree was missing 😕 😮
Heat map when. Something stratz does
Didn't have my favorite spot, guess it's pog still
Not to brag but I've done almost everything they did (pros) and I haven't watched the last tournament since the new patch. I think the support life really chose me.
I guess it really did lol
Thanks!
They really need increase ward max can buy to this new map...
now, we need ur videos about gaimin gladiator wins the major. anything u can to share with us
That's a great idea. Anything specific about it that you think would be interesting to go over?
@@zzadrianzz1. How their supports gank/rotate to mid "what's trigger it". 2. Dyrachyo(carry) pattern farm on the new map(How Dire/Radiant). 3. What specific hero did they pick when they banned certain heroes. 4. What makes they smoke gank? 5. How they dominate the tournament, with only losing 4 games in 12 series(What's the key).
Remember to put an eye-catching thumbnail. So ur channel gets more recognized. And do research immediately and upload quickly.
@@MaulanaFarisS Great ideas, thank for this!
wards should be an item with cooldown not a stockable piece
Thanks
take note all supports! XD
Nice. i think i'll beat 6-7k very very soon, because i did it without watching pro games 😂 really surprised about wards, but ye, here are 2 some interesting wards, that i didn't use: on top with medium camp and on bot near t2
there are 2 wards on top big camp near base and on bot at the same big camp, nice vision, if u are under attack, or u can find defender, which gone to farm these camps
Map so big make me lazy to play dota 😂😂
NadeKing of dota2?
Thought the title is a clickbait, it was not
gracias. usaré el ward que va en la roca de bot radiant
Just remove destroyable wards and sentry. The support buy 3 permanent yellow ward and 6 permanent blue ward where you can channel it to pick it up.
Nowadays it took 10 minutes for queing mid or safe lane and support is like... 10 second. Support needs buff or this game gonna dead
я играю на 3к на 5ке всю свою жизнь, но почему мой вардинг опережает про комманды?
Is just me or supporting just got much much harder? If you lose lane you cant catch up in xp
ward is less usefull here, but i like the rework of dust, i hate invisible units
Subscribe if u can use TPs
bruh now ward searchin easy becase u can search choped trees
Thx
Nice men
ty, looking forward to not using/seeing this ward spots
If only shitty carries know how to farm under vision else wards and ward spots are obsolete.
Value
what's up with your voice? illness from Britney Spears?