Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake Maye and Bo Nix - Matt Ryan Ranks all the Rookie QBs | PTP

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @gracesoto3384
    @gracesoto3384 16 дней назад +40

    A lot people hating on Bo. They don’t want to admit they got it wrong.

    • @binxnegale5801
      @binxnegale5801 15 дней назад +1

      Exactly 💯

    • @TheJoePusher
      @TheJoePusher 11 дней назад

      Bo has the talent of Daniel Jones. but he got a HOF coach. Mac Jones was great his first year, remember?

    • @Yomomsabitch
      @Yomomsabitch 9 дней назад

      @@TheJoePusheryou should never talk football again after that garbage ass take lmao. Just stop lol

  • @mpsCODGaMeR
    @mpsCODGaMeR 16 дней назад +66

    Just unbelievable… I mean when Bo was on a 2-3 losing streak it was “oh he is not good” Jayden goes on a 3 lose streak and it’s “he has been playing unbelievable”

    • @TheJoePusher
      @TheJoePusher 16 дней назад +21

      JD glaze is off the chain for real. dude been trash for 5 weeks now.

    • @caseydouglas3671
      @caseydouglas3671 16 дней назад

      JD’s losing streak has been clearly the fault of his offensive coordinator, when Kliff allows him to spread the ball in those last three games Washinngton looked dominant, and the TD/INT ratio in his losing streak is skewed by a failed hail mary attempt against Dallas and another dropped pass by Robinson that got picked. Not saying Bo was majorly at fault for his two game L streaks (he’s a rookie like Daniels after all) but he had 0 TDs and 4 INTs through two weeks, which looks a lot worse on paper than Daniels in Washington’s struggle games, but I don’t think it’s a fair comparison for Bo since those were his first two NFL games ever. Point being we shouldn’t just be looking at box stats and also shouldn’t be critiquing these guys for their struggles when they’re mostly the result of coaching and scheme rather than talent, both dudes are uber talented.

    • @chrisginoc
      @chrisginoc 16 дней назад +3

      You know what other take I keep hearing? “Bo’s ceiling is not as high as the top 3 QB’s drafted.”

    • @KOAZswagg
      @KOAZswagg 16 дней назад +1

      Bo nix is good JD is great . A top 5 defense to help bo , short fields etc .

    • @bvgtray5125
      @bvgtray5125 16 дней назад +4

      @@KOAZswaggcap Bo nix is great JD is good

  • @coloradoterroir8736
    @coloradoterroir8736 16 дней назад +64

    Maye gets the "no one around him excuse" but not Nix? Lots of media ranked their roster as the last or nearly last ranked in the league. He's doing it with a bunch of scraps and Courtland Sutton who hasn't had a 1,000 yard season in five years.

    • @jacobclark2532
      @jacobclark2532 16 дней назад +14

      Yep, noticing the same things. Revisionist history.

    • @ScottDavisScottMDavis
      @ScottDavisScottMDavis 16 дней назад +16

      Right. ESPN had Broncos ranked the worst roster in the league. What happened?

    • @adamlauben2279
      @adamlauben2279 16 дней назад +23

      broncos have a better oline and courtland sutton is much better than any of the pats wr's

    • @jacobclark2532
      @jacobclark2532 16 дней назад +3

      @adamlauben2279 is he? Dude hadn't had a 100 yard game in a few years until Bo showed up. The other receivers are middle to late round draft picks the last two years. Denver still hasn't had a 100 yard rusher in over two years (2nd longest drought i believe).

    • @nathanway1550
      @nathanway1550 16 дней назад +13

      Sorry but your Denver bias is showing Broncos even while not having a star studded roster have far and away better players surrounding him than Maye does. Patriots have arguably the worst roster constructed in the NFL.
      Also not taking anything away from Nix he looks great but let’s relax saying their situations are even remotely similar

  • @lonestarpatriot876
    @lonestarpatriot876 15 дней назад +7

    Nix has been the best rookie QB for 2 months now. He has not just been the best rookie QB in that time but also one of the best QB's in the league. It is crazy to me that he is not at the top of the list. At this point it is clear that the media and analysts have a bias that goes against him because none of them thought much of him coming out of college and they just don't want to accept that they were wrong.

    • @TheJoePusher
      @TheJoePusher 11 дней назад

      He's Mac Jones. Mac had a great first year.

    • @lonestarpatriot876
      @lonestarpatriot876 11 дней назад +1

      @TheJoePusher That is a comical take. Bo is a different beast than Jones and is accomplishing things that Jones and many other QB's have never accomplished. For instance, being 1 of 5 QB's to EVER throw for 20 TD's or more with two or less turnovers in a 10 game span. The other 4 guys to do that are all future HOF QB's. Their names are Rodgers, Brady, Brees, and Mahomes. Bo is the ONLY rookie QB to have EVER done so.

    • @TheJoePusher
      @TheJoePusher 11 дней назад

      @@lonestarpatriot876 coaching matters, and Bo has the best coach by far of all the rookies. Caleb would have 35 TDs and 4500 yards with Sean Payton. Caleb is dealing with an absolute shit show at coach and OC and he's still the best rookie eye test wise.

    • @lonestarpatriot876
      @lonestarpatriot876 11 дней назад +1

      @TheJoePusher "Would have, should have, could have" is what I hear. The proof is in the pudding. Bo is doing what he is doing despite the Broncos having the 32nd ranked roster before the season began. Your "eye test" is failing you and so many other fans and pundits. Tom Brady would have failed your "eye test" coming out of college. That is the problem with the "eye test." It does not take into account the most important traits it takes to be a great QB.

    • @TheJoePusher
      @TheJoePusher 11 дней назад

      @@lonestarpatriot876 Tom Brady was a game manager for 9 years before he became MVP. Bo is good, and he's my ROTY right now. but Mac Jones also had a great 1st year LOLLLL. Caleb would still go #1 without question. Drake would go #2. JD a close 3. Then Bo.

  • @lionheart1126
    @lionheart1126 16 дней назад +15

    Nix ROTY

  • @TheJoePusher
    @TheJoePusher 16 дней назад +39

    JD been trash for 5 weeks. Only reason he had a touchdown this week was because he threw a flukey checkdown for 80 yards. He's a running back. Bo Nix is my ROTY, but his ceiling is limited AF. He got the talent of Danny Jones, with a better coach. Drake and Caleb are by far the most talented and dynamic QBs in this draft, and it ain't close. They are the best passers, with Caleb showing the last two weeks why he's generational. Caleb still would go 1 overall today. No question.

    • @chrisginoc
      @chrisginoc 16 дней назад +8

      You just compared Bo Nix to Daniel Jones 😂 The internet is unbelievable. The NY Giants reached for Jones when they drafted him and then ended up overpaying him in hopes he would become who they wanted him to be. Round peg in a square hole considering the disfunction of the Giants ownership and management.

    • @TheJoePusher
      @TheJoePusher 15 дней назад

      @ yeah well Daniel Jones was actually drafted higher than Bo…

    • @chrisginoc
      @chrisginoc 15 дней назад +2

      @ Many countless QBs have been drafted high and been busts. It’s not just how high you get drafted, it’s the system, coaching and ownership. Giants are a poorly ran organization.

    • @TheJoePusher
      @TheJoePusher 15 дней назад

      @@chrisginoc yeah I know, but Danny Jones was actually a higher rated prospect than Bo. That’s my point. So not outlandish at all to say that Bo has the talent level of Danny Jones… Which is evident to anybody who watches the games. Bo’s is not that high. But he could become great because he has great coaching.

    • @chrisginoc
      @chrisginoc 15 дней назад

      @@TheJoePusher I get you. I think I misread earlier because Jones is now seen as a bust or QB that amounted to nothing with being released recently. Coming into the draft Jones did have good draft grades. I still think Bo is better than Jones because of his mobility and the years he stayed in college maturing learning the game. Would Jones have amounted to more had he been drafted by another team? We’ll never know, but he has a chance now being a free agent to change the narrative. Was it the Giants or was it him?

  • @troyboy7610
    @troyboy7610 14 дней назад +3

    Bo Nix will be the first of this QB class to win in the playoffs and first to win a Superbowl. Denver's defense is the defense that wins championships.

    • @13bangbang16
      @13bangbang16 4 дня назад

      No he won’t lol. Drake Maye will be the first to win a Super Bowl, and he will win multiple.

  • @DanGeezyPresents
    @DanGeezyPresents 15 дней назад +8

    Go watch what Mike stupidbaum said on espn this morning. “In what category is Bo nix playing better than Jayden Daniels. Daniels has more yards, more touchdowns”
    Bo nix has 16 touchdown passes
    Jayden has 12

    • @binxnegale5801
      @binxnegale5801 15 дней назад +2

      Only reason why Jayden Daniels is name there's is because of his Hail Mary lol other than that he hasn't been up there since

    • @fatalmistake187
      @fatalmistake187 15 дней назад +3

      That isn't even including his 4 rushing TD and 1 catching TD for Nix

    • @binxnegale5801
      @binxnegale5801 15 дней назад +2

      @@fatalmistake187 Yessir That Head Tap catch from Bo. Sheesh 💪🏽💯

  • @HLDN1989
    @HLDN1989 16 дней назад +15

    Drake Maye has shown the most upside of any of these rookie QBs. He has elite arm talent - velocity, zip, throwing on a rope on intermediate routes, easy deep throw ability, ball placement, sound mechanics - that the other rookies simply do not have. In any redraft he goes No1 overall.

    • @ryangillispie5094
      @ryangillispie5094 16 дней назад +4

      Game ending INTs are why he wouldn’t. His decision making is bad.

    • @Coloradocaliber
      @Coloradocaliber 16 дней назад +3

      It's the Kool aid effect.
      In both of their first 6 games Drake and Bo matched stats verbatim. 8 TD to 5 INT. The difference is Bo played against 3 out of 6 current playoff teams. Drake played 0. If we were to just go off of 6 games Jayden would actually be the best rated with 10 TD to 2 INT in his first 6 games. Jayden played 1 playoff team in those 6. Out of the 4 Caleb was the 2nd best with 9TD to 5 INT. Also only playing 1 playoff team.
      If we want to go to the eye test, Drake is improving. Caleb as well. Jayden in a little slump, but not down. Bo is steady.
      Thats the truth. Arm talent did nothing for players like Eddie George. Jay Cutler. Michael Vick. Rex Grossman. Jamarcus Russel. Etc. Wow plays mean little in the end of it all. E.G one Tom Brady. Your view is flawed.

    • @cornfieldcraig
      @cornfieldcraig 14 дней назад

      Drake has all the traits that have defined the best NFL QBs until Mahomes. Size, smarts, feel for the have, escapability, arm strength, and accuracy. He doesn't match Mahomes' athleticism, but he compares well with Luck, Payton Manning, and Rodgers. This QB class could go down as the GOAT. And we still haven't seen McCarthy or Penix.

    • @Zahok1
      @Zahok1 9 дней назад +1

      @@Coloradocaliber uh huh... makes sense as long as we forget that the worst receiver in the broncos roster would be the number 1 for the patriots, the OL is average vs the worst in the nfl, the defense is top 3 while the pats is bottom 20-30, a super bowl winning head coach vs a rookie who has no clue what hes doing ... oh and like 3 or 4 years more starting years in college than Maye whos fresh off the boat.
      And with all of that, the stats are still similar the first 6 games as you said.

    • @careful.
      @careful. 9 дней назад

      @@ryangillispie5094 his decision making falls back on him playing hero ball because the talent around him is not good. he plays for the win and tries doing more with nothing. any of the other 3 get put in that situation they 100% play 3x worse than he is

  • @jacobcarter5712
    @jacobcarter5712 13 дней назад +6

    All rookie QBs look good for rookies!

    • @rhdtv2002
      @rhdtv2002 6 дней назад

      Some look better than veterans too

  • @juliereichwein2871
    @juliereichwein2871 16 дней назад +12

    Bo Nix

  • @joevasconcelos3409
    @joevasconcelos3409 8 дней назад

    Drake maye is by far the best qb from the 2024 draft class

  • @Yomomsabitch
    @Yomomsabitch 9 дней назад

    Bo nix had to play kc twice, ravens, Steelers, chargers twice, Cleveland, I mean come on, we have the craziest schedule. Every team we’ve faced has a playoff spot. Bo is baller ready.

  • @binxnegale5801
    @binxnegale5801 15 дней назад +5

    Of course media be hating on Bo Nix 🤷🏽🤦🏽 Why isnt his name up there?? BS if you ask me.

  • @nicolastomas8436
    @nicolastomas8436 16 дней назад +6

    What Maye has done is more impressive when comparing to anyone else

    • @johnwan7507
      @johnwan7507 16 дней назад +4

      ?? the broncos have 1 receiver and 60M in dead cap. If anything Nix and Sean Payton are the most impressive when comparing

    • @nicolastomas8436
      @nicolastomas8436 16 дней назад +6

      @ what Nix has done is not nearly as impressive compared to what Maye has done playing. He’s the only reason some of these games are close. Payton is on of the greats at offensive coaching. Maye has to deal with a horrible HC and a behind shut OC all while dealing with one of the worst off lines and supporting cast in recent history.

    • @AlexanderMcMyers
      @AlexanderMcMyers 7 дней назад

      What has he done?

    • @BaronVonMunch
      @BaronVonMunch 6 дней назад +1

      Anyone watching the horrible Pats team would understand it. Those not being forced to watch all these horrible games have no idea.

  • @aiden8767
    @aiden8767 11 дней назад +1

    When was this even posted cuz these numbers aren’t even up to date

  • @TomWakeman-ul7om
    @TomWakeman-ul7om 16 дней назад +1

    MVP is BS just give them a Oscar.

  • @prongATO
    @prongATO 16 дней назад +5

    Kind of funny, they all give Maye a pass "because of his roster situation" Go back and look at the next to last or last ranked roster before the season by the national media.. Yeah,

    • @cristiangomez4537
      @cristiangomez4537 9 дней назад

      It don't matter what media says. It's the numbers. It's a reason they picked so high the strength last year was the defense and it's fallen crazy to one of the worse. They have the one of if not worse olines and worse wrs out of all the rookies mentioned.

    • @BaronVonMunch
      @BaronVonMunch 6 дней назад

      Who cares about some ranking. This Pats team is playing horrible with lousy coaches. Massive penalites, defense sucks. The Broncos are a far better team. You know what you can do with your useless roster rankings. No one needs clown points.

  • @Drew-f4m
    @Drew-f4m 10 дней назад

    Lets be honest drake maye is definitely #1 qb here my boy has absolutely nothing and carrying my pats to close game pat nation forever

  • @nathan4648
    @nathan4648 15 дней назад +4

    Caleb and Maye are the most talented, we knew this going in to the draft. Now it just comes down to cerebral stuff and they both clearly have it

    • @Greggers1516
      @Greggers1516 13 дней назад +1

      Yeah and Caleb has played his best ball against the best teams in the Vikings pack and lions

  • @Elliot-h7y
    @Elliot-h7y 16 дней назад +1

    Pushing The Shit Pile

  • @RAWPnS
    @RAWPnS 16 дней назад +1

    How dum3 are the giants to let saquan go

    • @dallascannon9832
      @dallascannon9832 16 дней назад +1

      Giants make the stupidest moves ever!

    • @RAWPnS
      @RAWPnS 16 дней назад

      @dallascannon9832 people underrate how much an elite rb is a young qbs best friend

  • @Coloradocaliber
    @Coloradocaliber 16 дней назад +8

    This show is super boring. You guys play it so safe that it’s like the participation trophy of sports shows. You asked him to rank the QBs. Jayden. That’s it. Then it’s a feel good for everyone party. Have some damn conviction and give us some real opinions. Geez.

    • @Nakho-
      @Nakho- 15 дней назад +1

      They all look good tho. Tbh it prob should be a feel good for everyone party.

  • @craigcarroll-cw1dj
    @craigcarroll-cw1dj 13 дней назад +1

    bo nix is going to quietly rise above the next few years. attribute that to coaching or college career or schemes or any other lame excuse for his succsess. he is a winner and a fierce competitor with a football pedigree. watching sports media eat humble pie is great entertainment.

  • @johnscritchfield5736
    @johnscritchfield5736 15 дней назад +3

    CW

  • @caseydouglas3671
    @caseydouglas3671 16 дней назад +2

    Daniels leads in every stat on that chart besides TD/INT ratio, which will be skewed one way or the other for every rookie due to dropped passes, failed hail marys, etc. I really dont understand the narrative a lot are throwing around that he’s no longer leading in a season award race when he is leading in almost every stat (and tied with Nix in record), ESPECIALLY since he has played one less game since he sat for 90% of the Carolina game, which would have undoubtedly been a stat-pad fest.

    • @Nakho-
      @Nakho- 15 дней назад

      cuz ppl hate washington subconsciously and we havent won in weeks

    • @trinityonmob9108
      @trinityonmob9108 15 дней назад +1

      Broncos wrs have dropped 3 50 yard plus tds this year with nobody around them it happens to everyone.

  • @scottellsworth2525
    @scottellsworth2525 11 дней назад

    Caleb Williams is head snd shoulders above all those guys. He does things ive NEVER seen out of a Bears qb..To the clown saying Bears were better with Fields, you never watched a game, obviously.

    • @loxchopper
      @loxchopper 11 дней назад +2

      You can’t compare what the bears have had historically we haven’t had anyone lol. Sure Caleb looks good but he’s def not head and shoulders above the rest of the class. Relax on that glaze

    • @BaronVonMunch
      @BaronVonMunch 6 дней назад +2

      Too bad he's played like the worst by far.

  • @ryandenton190
    @ryandenton190 15 дней назад

    First 3 games, Jayden Daniels, but the majority of the season and currently?... Bo Nix and it's no question. He's also shown the most progression. Also don't forget that using your argument for Maye, the Broncos had the worst rated roster in the NFL going into the season lol. Bo Nix is ballin with zero weapons!

    • @troyboy7610
      @troyboy7610 14 дней назад

      I wouldn't say he has no weapons. 6'4 Sutton, Vele (6'5) and Humphrey are nice targets. There were issues with guys catching the ball early on but now we see what happens when they do catch those ball. Franklin will get better and so will everyone else in season 2 with Nix.

    • @ryandenton190
      @ryandenton190 14 дней назад

      @troyboy7610 Humphrey is a practice squad player on almost every other team and Vele is a rookie that only cracked the lineup because one of their other receivers got shot at a club. He's showing promise but struggles with route running. I hear you on Sutton but Sutton is getting older and until right now hasn't looked good in years. I think what we're seeing is a rookie beyond his years making these receivers look much better than they are

    • @careful.
      @careful. 9 дней назад

      zero weapons lol, they have much much better talent on defense and sutton would be the clear #1 receiver on the pats. oline is almost like comparing an nfl oline to a high school one. bo nix is in a 10x better situation. stop taking to heart what espn ranks a roster because they had a slump year.

    • @BaronVonMunch
      @BaronVonMunch 6 дней назад

      You Denver clowns can take you roster rankings and do you know what with it. Why you all same the stupid thing? If you actually watched Pats games you would know that team is playing as badly as any team has ever played. The new coaches are idiots. It is a complete joke, it is amazing what Maye can do on that piece of crap. The Broncos are a far better team with far better coaching and you know it.

  • @SpoJay
    @SpoJay 15 дней назад

    🤦🏾‍♂️These trash ass takes will continue bc they all want to be right about their pre draft predictions about CW. They know damn well deep down Bo is RookOTY. If Caleb had Bo numbers/production they would be salivating over themselves! The Bo disrespect is nauseating. Dismiss the kid’s performance bc he landed with the right coach and situation. Can’t have it both ways, hell they ranked the roster 31 pre regular season.

    • @BaronVonMunch
      @BaronVonMunch 6 дней назад

      I guess all Bronco fans care about are rankings. Man, that is just sad.

  • @BeepsAndBeats
    @BeepsAndBeats 16 дней назад +2

    The bears were better with Fields nice try Kyle

    • @TheJoePusher
      @TheJoePusher 16 дней назад

      Caleb had 340 yards with 2 TD and 0 INT against the 1 ranked Defense on Sunday. you dumb?

    • @prodi9yx930
      @prodi9yx930 16 дней назад +7

      No. Lol

    • @michaelgriego6882
      @michaelgriego6882 16 дней назад +6

      I've seen every game with fields, and now with Caleb . Caleb is so much more elite. Fields with his legs, Caleb with his Arm and legs.

    • @ba2ooka19
      @ba2ooka19 16 дней назад +6

      Wow. That take isn't even in the neighborhood of realistic anymore. At the end of Caleb's rookie season he will have better passing stats across the board than Fields ever had in any of his three seasons in Chicago. Book it.

    • @mouadhhousseini296
      @mouadhhousseini296 16 дней назад +2

      Oh boy. How to prove you know nothing about football without saying so

  • @lennyz1909
    @lennyz1909 16 дней назад +9

    No one looks better than CW; he is not a one read QB. At end of season CW will have more yards and TDs along with playing the hard part of the schedule.

    • @UnicowBoySlots
      @UnicowBoySlots 16 дней назад +2

      People don’t understand because they are looking from the outside…you see why coaching is so important for a quarterback and the OC change has made Caleb look 10000% better the past two weeks.
      Don’t get me wrong I am a huge bears fan but Bo nix is on my fantasy league balling out haha. We gotta give it 2 more years and we will see who sticks around…look at the QBs this year when people thought CJ Stroud and Anthony Richardson were godsss to their team

    • @jordanjmdjmd74
      @jordanjmdjmd74 16 дней назад +5

      He is the very definition of a one read and run around like a crazy man qb. What are you watching?

    • @Alphaghost-SP1
      @Alphaghost-SP1 15 дней назад +7

      @@jordanjmdjmd74I’ve been watching people break down the all 22 and he’s definitely not a one read qb, what have you been watching?

    • @jordanjmdjmd74
      @jordanjmdjmd74 15 дней назад +2

      @Alphaghost-SP1 Everyone knows Williams is not a good pocket passer. Who's saying he's going through 3/4 reads per play? I need to see these vids

    • @Alphaghost-SP1
      @Alphaghost-SP1 15 дней назад +5

      @@jordanjmdjmd74 all things qb with Tim Jenkins or Chase Daniels, either one, both former NFL qbs. If anything Caleb goes through reads too fast at times

  • @caseydouglas3671
    @caseydouglas3671 16 дней назад +1

    Daniels leads in every stat on that chart besides TD/INT ratio, which will be skewed one way or the other for every rookie due to dropped passes, failed hail marys, etc. I really dont understand the narrative a lot are throwing around that he’s no longer leading in a season award race when he is leading in almost every stat (and tied with Nix in record), ESPECIALLY since he has played one less game since he sat for 90% of the Carolina game, which would have undoubtedly been a stat-pad fest.