I think I'll try out either Cakewalk Next or Cakewalk Sonar in the foreseeable future. Both are great DAW's in there own unique way. Such as the UI, Track templates & others, Hopefully you do do Cakewalk Sonar next.
Well i don't mind that it is basic. Most DAWs competing in advance features end up confusing users etc. Thinking cakewalk next is a simple easy DAW and Cakewalk Sonar will be the pro advance cakewalk. Since you already tried it, can you confirm that Cakewalk Next is computer based and not cloud online based? Still need the bandlab subscription to regularly reactivate this software?
It is a downloadable program that is available on both Mac and Windows. You still need a Bandlab account to activate it but at the moment you don't need a subscription. I don't know if that will change, there has been no mention of pricing or anything yet. But it is a downloadable program and much better than the current Bandlab DAW.
i am am loving cakewalk next, very simple yet brilliant nothing but praise, does everything i need, so far so good, used cakewalk sonar for over 20 years , now use traction waveform for last year, but i have major issues when using 3 monitors on waveform , waveform is all most useable, other multi monitor users are saying the same, cannot adjust VST program freezes and does not respond, effect slow response etc, traction support non existent, so i imported all the rendered track from waveform into cakewalk next to try , and used same effect and it works perfectly using cakewalk next
If you already have Cakewalk by Bandlab on your computer then yes you'll be able to continue to use it for as long as you like. This program is the first of 2 programs that they will be releasing under the new brand name "Cakewalk". The other program will be Cakewalk Sonar which is the next edition of the current version of Cakewalk. They have said that once both Cakewalk Next and Cakewalk Sonar are released then the Current Cakewalk by Bandlab will no longer be available for download but if you already have it then you will be able to continue using it however it will no longer receive updates.
For cakewalk to start charging for its use they are going to have to step there game up The metronome should have a feature that automatically put the track in time with the set BPM Some of the features seem great so they are heading in the right direction with the free plugins and effects
I've used Sonar since 2011, and I recently decided to take the plunge into Cubase, but I've been having to make a bunch of tweaks since I was so used to certain shortcuts that I used in Sonar, and that's perfectly fine. I'm wondering how Next is going to be and/or Sonar here in the near future. If it's just as competitive with Cubase and other major DAWs in terms of what can be done, it may just be easier for me to come back to Cakewalk!
Next likely won’t be as competitive as Cubase. Sonar should be but we’ll have to see what kind of updates they make. Thank you for watching. Keep creating! 👊👍
I have been using Cakewalk since it's original Sonar days, but I'm thinking of getting the SSL controller setup and they don't support CW. I've moved over to Studio one and have no complaints so far.
I’m hoping, when they release the updated Sonar, it will be compatible with the ssl UF8. The basics kind of work right now but it’s messy and you can’t control busses. Studio One is excellent though.
7:48 "Record / Playback / Both" seems like they're mimicking a physical three-way switch, but for a UI it'd make more sense to use checkboxes for just Record & Playback. I'm nitpicking though. Interesting that they've announced there will be a Mac version of Cakewalk Next.
I don't see "Insert Audio FX"? Is it not available in the beta version of Cakewalk Next? Could you please tell me what I am missing compared to the older version, thank you.
There is no old version of Cakewalk Next. This is a brand new program that is still in beta. At 3:49 in this video which happens to be the chapter titled “how to add an effect to a track in Cakewalk Next” you’ll see how to add an effect to a track in Cakewalk Next.
They are really gearing this program to the beginner and casual musician. I think it’s going to be an excellent way to get people into making music on their computer and then if they decide to get more advanced they can move up to Sonar.
Hi Zane. Thanks for the vid. To me it looks exactly as I expected - ie a pc / Mac version of the Bandlab app. In fact Bandlab is already available on pc/Mac via your browser, although Next allows plugins which is obviously a massive step forward over the (mostly) crappy included instruments. Still, while it looks great for getting started it's (probably) a bit of a toy compared to CbB, or the free version of Waveform for that matter. The first version of Cakewalk Sonar is just the next version of CbB so I'm not expecting these two products to look, feel or act much like each other. Perhaps in time. Right now I'd be amazed if the common naming is anything more than a branding exercise.
now i got it to but where is the mixer view ! and then where do i quantize the letter q does not work ! is there any menu where to go? i thought they at least will keep the cakewalk settings where quantizing is as easy as walking ! there are also no cut tools ! there is no comping neither overdubing ...none of the cakewalk functions ! well honestly i think i am gonna wait for the real old new cakewalk ! i dont like that there is no mixer and i also dont like i cant quintize and that i cannot adjust the arranger : this way you need to drag the handle all the time ...at least some of the cakewalk functions would be nice Bandlab ! however what i truely like alot is the way they build the instrulent fx view like it is on bitwig ! this is waaay better then i expected ! but overall its not powerfull enough to be a real proffesional tool Zain. i*ve used Samplitude , i used as a test bitwig. i am using cakewalk since at least 2017 and allthough i kinda see em moce this the right direction it is honestly not bad but not good enough for real proffesional music
It’s just simple and straight to the point. I think a lot of new comers and people that don’t need all the fancy stuff will enjoy the simplicity of this program. Thank you for watching. Keep creating! 👊👍
They made a big announcement months ago and now they have a beta version ready? That's amazing. I wonder if there's also a beta version of Sonar and when we can expect the real thing. Nobody knows what's going on. Sonar will probably not be cheap and most of the infos are from the old Cakewalk website. That's not how I would do business. I know many people who have moved on to other DAWs already.
Looks like they ditched TTS-1 which I like. I also like to "bundle" vsts in a folder like a workstation. Next looks like it might be a little too basic for me.
Personally I quite like the minimal look, as someone who uses, Blender, Unity, Unreal, Gimp etc yeah an overly cluttered GUI can be daunting and off-putting for beginners. I'm not a fan of the highlight orange/red etc over the tracks, nor the metronome sound, it sounds like a popping beat rather than a ticking beat, it's actually a bit off-putting, instead a very strong, well defined but low sounding beat should be used close to the original, but just tweaked a tiny bit, that's just my opinion though, some might like it, but if it ain't broke...as they say. Otherwise the rest looks decent, they have done their research into what sounds lot of people are using, so straight out the box, not bad, not bad at all...👍
I just tested this by turning off my internet and the program still runs and functions normally while disconnected but when you first launch it, you need to sign into your Bandlab account to activate the program. Once you've activated it, you can go offline.
i think they are making a makeover of Sonar,. but it's much needed. Cakewalk next is designed for beginners so no wonder it looks very clean and simple, I'm sure that Sonar will look better AND professional at the same time
I think the point of this program is to be more like a Bandlab Next. They are moving to using the name "Cakewalk" as the brand. So this is not the next version of what we currently know as Cakewalk. They have said that Cakwewalk Sonar will be the next version of Cakewalk by Bandlab. This program is intended as an entry level DAW for people just getting into it or just curious about music production. It's definitely the next level of the Bandlab DAW and so far it seems much better than it.
For me this seems weird. Its little bit like bandlab and i dont like that. Cakewalk is so simple allready and IMO it should not be simplified to Look like some childs toy
This is basically the downloadable and more useful version of Bandlab. They are making Cakewalk the brand name. So this isn’t replacing what you currently know as Cakewalk. This is the entry level DAW. The next version of the current Cakewalk by Bandlab will be called Cakewalk Sonar. They are moving away from the Bandlab name for the software and Cakewalk is now the brand. I’m sure there will be more Cakewalk stuff in the future but right now they’ve just announced Next and Sonar.
Looks like a DAW designed by and for pre-teens. Bandlab you can't be serious right? I know this is a beta but if this thing is more than $20 then they've lost their minds. I'm genuinely embarrassed for the Cakewalk guys going from one of the most comprehensive DAWs on the market to this silly children's toy. This shouldn't be called Next it should be called Previous because there is nothing new in it at all. Hopefully Sonar will be aimed at grown ups and not be as hideous looking as this thing. 0/10.
This is more like Bandlab Next. I think they are using "Cakewalk" more as a brand name now so it's not intended to be a replacement to what we currently know as Cakewalk by Bandlab. Cakewalk Sonar will be the next generation of that program. So I think the actual DAW name here is "Next" and Cakewalk is just the brand name, kind of like "Live" is the DAW name and Ableton is the brand. I think the intention of this program is to target newer & casual users kind of similar to like a Garageband program. It gets users into the game and then once users get more experience and want to get a little more advanced they can move up to Sonar or some other program but if they move to Sonar then their current projects will open in it. I have a feeling that the price point on this one will be fairly low. I haven't heard anything about price yet but I think for this one it will likely be under $50 or maybe even thrown in with other things eventually. For an entry level program it's actually one of the better ones. I've used some of these entry level music production programs and have felt frustrated. This one didn't give me that feeling. It's basic and straight forward which should help newcomers. And yes it's currently early Beta so I do expect it to get better still and more polished but I don't think Next will ever be a replacement for the current version of Cakewalk that's not the intention of this program. Thank you for watching and commenting. Keep creating! 👊👍
@@AudioTechTV From what I've understood, they're just changing how the UI is renderd, so it works on high resolution screens. (and probably breaking all the custom themes). They aren't looking do a big overhaul of the look of the UI.
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I think I'll try out either Cakewalk Next or Cakewalk Sonar in the foreseeable future.
Both are great DAW's in there own unique way. Such as the UI, Track templates & others, Hopefully you do do Cakewalk Sonar next.
Sonar no longer exists. It's called BandLab. Free download.
It looks CLEAN
so this is basically the cloud DAW in bandlab ... pretty straight forward. Thanks for the video overview
Well i don't mind that it is basic. Most DAWs competing in advance features end up confusing users etc. Thinking cakewalk next is a simple easy DAW and Cakewalk Sonar will be the pro advance cakewalk.
Since you already tried it, can you confirm that Cakewalk Next is computer based and not cloud online based?
Still need the bandlab subscription to regularly reactivate this software?
It is a downloadable program that is available on both Mac and Windows. You still need a Bandlab account to activate it but at the moment you don't need a subscription. I don't know if that will change, there has been no mention of pricing or anything yet. But it is a downloadable program and much better than the current Bandlab DAW.
i am am loving cakewalk next, very simple yet brilliant nothing but praise, does everything i need, so far so good, used cakewalk sonar for over 20 years ,
now use traction waveform for last year, but i have major issues when using 3 monitors on waveform , waveform is all most useable, other multi monitor users are saying the same, cannot adjust VST program freezes and does not respond, effect slow response etc, traction support non existent,
so i imported all the rendered track from waveform into cakewalk next to try , and used same effect and it works perfectly using cakewalk next
Does it support third party plugin
@@nihiqallam5616 if you mean cakewalk next
Then yes it does but remember it’s a beta
So a bit buggy still
It looks like Reaper, that's kinda funny
it looks like a mixture of logic and BandLab
Right!?😂
This is like gravity,it's not the fall that kills you; it's the sudden stop at the end!
thanks for the demo. are we still going to be able to use the old version that we are so used to using now?
If you already have Cakewalk by Bandlab on your computer then yes you'll be able to continue to use it for as long as you like. This program is the first of 2 programs that they will be releasing under the new brand name "Cakewalk". The other program will be Cakewalk Sonar which is the next edition of the current version of Cakewalk.
They have said that once both Cakewalk Next and Cakewalk Sonar are released then the Current Cakewalk by Bandlab will no longer be available for download but if you already have it then you will be able to continue using it however it will no longer receive updates.
ok Great. thanks for the explanation sounds good. keep creating!
For cakewalk to start charging for its use they are going to have to step there game up The metronome should have a feature that automatically put the track in time with the set BPM Some of the features seem great so they are heading in the right direction with the free plugins and effects
Bandlab* (not cakewalk)
I've used Sonar since 2011, and I recently decided to take the plunge into Cubase, but I've been having to make a bunch of tweaks since I was so used to certain shortcuts that I used in Sonar, and that's perfectly fine. I'm wondering how Next is going to be and/or Sonar here in the near future. If it's just as competitive with Cubase and other major DAWs in terms of what can be done, it may just be easier for me to come back to Cakewalk!
Next likely won’t be as competitive as Cubase. Sonar should be but we’ll have to see what kind of updates they make. Thank you for watching. Keep creating! 👊👍
I have been using Cakewalk since it's original Sonar days, but I'm thinking of getting the SSL controller setup and they don't support CW. I've moved over to Studio one and have no complaints so far.
I’m hoping, when they release the updated Sonar, it will be compatible with the ssl UF8. The basics kind of work right now but it’s messy and you can’t control busses.
Studio One is excellent though.
looks cool love the new UI too so clean
I am trying the beta too and I like the piano roll a lot. I would love if they added the pitch correction from BandLab to the audio tracks.
7:48 "Record / Playback / Both" seems like they're mimicking a physical three-way switch, but for a UI it'd make more sense to use checkboxes for just Record & Playback. I'm nitpicking though.
Interesting that they've announced there will be a Mac version of Cakewalk Next.
I don't see "Insert Audio FX"?
Is it not available in the beta version of Cakewalk Next?
Could you please tell me what I am missing compared to the older version, thank you.
There is no old version of Cakewalk Next. This is a brand new program that is still in beta. At 3:49 in this video which happens to be the chapter titled “how to add an effect to a track in Cakewalk Next” you’ll see how to add an effect to a track in Cakewalk Next.
@@AudioTechTV Thanks for letting us know.
I was a little confused because I'm new to DAW. w
The clear explanations helped me understand.
I like it, it looks very clean and easy to understand especially for beginner
They are really gearing this program to the beginner and casual musician. I think it’s going to be an excellent way to get people into making music on their computer and then if they decide to get more advanced they can move up to Sonar.
I wonder if stuff created with Cakewalk/BandLab will load without a huge headache.
Thanks for your video! I'm a beginner in fretboard.
How do I bring up the mixer in Cakewalk Next?
Hi Zane. Thanks for the vid.
To me it looks exactly as I expected - ie a pc / Mac version of the Bandlab app. In fact Bandlab is already available on pc/Mac via your browser, although Next allows plugins which is obviously a massive step forward over the (mostly) crappy included instruments. Still, while it looks great for getting started it's (probably) a bit of a toy compared to CbB, or the free version of Waveform for that matter.
The first version of Cakewalk Sonar is just the next version of CbB so I'm not expecting these two products to look, feel or act much like each other. Perhaps in time. Right now I'd be amazed if the common naming is anything more than a branding exercise.
Can i also import videos for scoring videos into cakewalk next?
What about live looping? Is it like albeton in that regard?
now i got it to but where is the mixer view ! and then where do i quantize the letter q does not work ! is there any menu where to go? i thought they at least will keep the cakewalk settings where quantizing is as easy as walking ! there are also no cut tools ! there is no comping neither overdubing ...none of the cakewalk functions ! well honestly i think i am gonna wait for the real old new cakewalk ! i dont like that there is no mixer and i also dont like i cant quintize and that i cannot adjust the arranger : this way you need to drag the handle all the time ...at least some of the cakewalk functions would be nice Bandlab ! however what i truely like alot is the way they build the instrulent fx view like it is on bitwig ! this is waaay better then i expected ! but overall its not powerfull enough to be a real proffesional tool Zain. i*ve used Samplitude , i used as a test bitwig. i am using cakewalk since at least 2017 and allthough i kinda see em moce this the right direction it is honestly not bad but not good enough for real proffesional music
I liked It... Very good looking
It’s just simple and straight to the point. I think a lot of new comers and people that don’t need all the fancy stuff will enjoy the simplicity of this program. Thank you for watching. Keep creating! 👊👍
They made a big announcement months ago and now they have a beta version ready? That's amazing.
I wonder if there's also a beta version of Sonar and when we can expect the real thing.
Nobody knows what's going on. Sonar will probably not be cheap and most of the infos are from the
old Cakewalk website. That's not how I would do business. I know many people who have moved
on to other DAWs already.
Looks like they ditched TTS-1 which I like. I also like to "bundle" vsts in a folder
like a workstation. Next looks like it might be a little too basic for me.
It’s intended to be basic. Sonar will likely still have the TTS-1 and the ability to use folders. They might even add folders to Next.
Personally I quite like the minimal look, as someone who uses, Blender, Unity, Unreal, Gimp etc yeah an overly cluttered GUI can be daunting and off-putting for beginners.
I'm not a fan of the highlight orange/red etc over the tracks, nor the metronome sound, it sounds like a popping beat rather than a ticking beat, it's actually a bit off-putting, instead a very strong, well defined but low sounding beat should be used close to the original, but just tweaked a tiny bit, that's just my opinion though, some might like it, but if it ain't broke...as they say.
Otherwise the rest looks decent, they have done their research into what sounds lot of people are using, so straight out the box, not bad, not bad at all...👍
Is it online or offline?
I just tested this by turning off my internet and the program still runs and functions normally while disconnected but when you first launch it, you need to sign into your Bandlab account to activate the program. Once you've activated it, you can go offline.
no step sequencer?
Cakewalk Next is to Cakewalk by Bandlab/Sonar what Garage Band is to Logic.
Wonderful
Looks like Ableton, Bandlab, Logic(a little bit) and Reaper.
GUi is looking more like Ableton Live in my opinion, just hope Sonar didn't loose it's GUI, a facelift is welcome but not a total makeover 😭😭😭😭
Yes it look like Ableton 🤣🤣 I'm continuing with cakewalk that better for me
i think they are making a makeover of Sonar,. but it's much needed. Cakewalk next is designed for beginners so no wonder it looks very clean and simple, I'm sure that Sonar will look better AND professional at the same time
is that SM7B on or.. ?
It is the SM7dB
Is it free?
At the moment, if you get into the Beta, it’s free. But once it gets to final release they will charge money for it. They haven’t said how much yet.
anybody know how to put automations on it?
How to get the beta.
Go to the Cakewalk Next web page and you’ll see a link to join the public beta.
Far out!
The midi keyboard thing looks like they copied Mixcraft.
I swear if that's the way cakewalk next gonna look they should be ashame .that shit looks like a mobile or the bandlab app .lol.dammmm .
I think the point of this program is to be more like a Bandlab Next. They are moving to using the name "Cakewalk" as the brand. So this is not the next version of what we currently know as Cakewalk. They have said that Cakwewalk Sonar will be the next version of Cakewalk by Bandlab.
This program is intended as an entry level DAW for people just getting into it or just curious about music production. It's definitely the next level of the Bandlab DAW and so far it seems much better than it.
Lol
@@RebelleTL I don't get it .I might as well just still to the free version of cakewalk .
For me this seems weird. Its little bit like bandlab and i dont like that. Cakewalk is so simple allready and IMO it should not be simplified to Look like some childs toy
This is basically the downloadable and more useful version of Bandlab. They are making Cakewalk the brand name. So this isn’t replacing what you currently know as Cakewalk. This is the entry level DAW. The next version of the current Cakewalk by Bandlab will be called Cakewalk Sonar.
They are moving away from the Bandlab name for the software and Cakewalk is now the brand. I’m sure there will be more Cakewalk stuff in the future but right now they’ve just announced Next and Sonar.
No offense, it looks like garageband for windows. XD
This is WAY WAY too basic for what I do. It kind of reminds me of "Garageband" for iPhone or something.
Then maybe go for Sonar and not Next as this one is intended to be fairly beginner friendly.
Looks like a DAW designed by and for pre-teens. Bandlab you can't be serious right? I know this is a beta but if this thing is more than $20 then they've lost their minds. I'm genuinely embarrassed for the Cakewalk guys going from one of the most comprehensive DAWs on the market to this silly children's toy. This shouldn't be called Next it should be called Previous because there is nothing new in it at all. Hopefully Sonar will be aimed at grown ups and not be as hideous looking as this thing. 0/10.
This is more like Bandlab Next. I think they are using "Cakewalk" more as a brand name now so it's not intended to be a replacement to what we currently know as Cakewalk by Bandlab. Cakewalk Sonar will be the next generation of that program. So I think the actual DAW name here is "Next" and Cakewalk is just the brand name, kind of like "Live" is the DAW name and Ableton is the brand.
I think the intention of this program is to target newer & casual users kind of similar to like a Garageband program. It gets users into the game and then once users get more experience and want to get a little more advanced they can move up to Sonar or some other program but if they move to Sonar then their current projects will open in it.
I have a feeling that the price point on this one will be fairly low. I haven't heard anything about price yet but I think for this one it will likely be under $50 or maybe even thrown in with other things eventually.
For an entry level program it's actually one of the better ones. I've used some of these entry level music production programs and have felt frustrated. This one didn't give me that feeling. It's basic and straight forward which should help newcomers.
And yes it's currently early Beta so I do expect it to get better still and more polished but I don't think Next will ever be a replacement for the current version of Cakewalk that's not the intention of this program.
Thank you for watching and commenting. Keep creating! 👊👍
Yeah, but the old one looks like it was designed for OAPs. Not even the current version of REAPER could look as bad as old Cakewalk.
One of the main things they are doing to the new Sonar is updating the graphics/look. So we’ll see how that goes once it’s available.
@@AudioTechTV From what I've understood, they're just changing how the UI is renderd, so it works on high resolution screens. (and probably breaking all the custom themes). They aren't looking do a big overhaul of the look of the UI.
I've been beta testing it and Frankly I don't like it. It's not something that would benefit me but I can see it working for others.