Great video Richard! I think it's the first time I watch a drivers view from Adelaide trams. The terminus quite reminds me of Port Melbourne, though this one is much bigger and dual track. I didn't get a chance to visit Adelaide, but the city centre looks very vibrant and the tram line well patronised.
Wow this was amazing. I can see why Adelaide is loved by money. No crowds and no traffic for those of us used to Melbourne and Sydney. Even if this was filmed on a weekend or public holiday, still so quiet compared our largest cities, which are packed on weekends and public holidays, enough for me to stay away as much as possible. Adelaide seems like a lovely place. I hope to visit one day.
All of this was recorded on a Tuesday and Wednesday. Adelaide is quiet as there is little to attract tourists there. Public transport is aimed at the locals and is very unhelpful for visitors especially if arriving by train.
I went there for a holiday back in January with mum. We really enjoyed it. Got a private tour of the tram museum and managed to traverse the entire tram network; though that's not saying much. Biggest gripe was the zero traffic priority. At least Sydney has some semblance of that nowadays.
Yes the lack of traffic light priority in Adelaide is even worse than Melbourne where at least some places have a 7 second T light slotted in between phase changes. I hope to check Sydney out again next month but little by little priority has been added to more and more locations. By comparison, Melbourne has none.
Great video! As much as I love the videos you post from Melbourne, I also appreciate that you do videos from other cities. A good way to see more of the country!! Thanks!
Unfortunately most tram fans do not share your views and are too parochial to bother with anything outside of their local region. The view numbers make that clear.
@@tressteleg1 That is unfortunate!! I love seeing and exploring new places and things. I love travel, and these videos provide me with an opportunity that I would not have otherwise! Please count me among your loyal viewers! Thanks again!
@@michaelhatton2477 I have long thought of Melbourne as being a tramway with a lot of potential which is just as far from being realised now as it was 30 years ago when I worked there. Perhaps you should watch them as examples of what not to do, most of the time anyway.
Yes. Drivers were happy to put the sunshade right up - if the sun was behind them. So when the tram went around a corner, one half of the ride was recorded at one time of the day, the rest had to wait until the sum moved enough. The Citadis were fine for video, Bombardier cabs had a poor forward view.
Grew up in Adelaide. Had a summer job on the buses and Glenelg tram. Left in 1970. So I could only recognise a couple of buildings on North Terrace . (The university side was covered. I would have recognised that.)
@@tressteleg1 Not fun at all. It was summer. The buses were not air conditioned. (Hardly anything was in those days.) I was a conductor, which meant I was constantly walking up and down the bus, wearing the hot uniform, and carrying a leather bag full of coins, along with tickets and a punch. In rush hours, I had to work my way through a mass of standing passengers. Most of the time I worked split shifts. Early, morning rush hour, then till noon. Break long enough to go home, eat, shower, but not proper rest. Then late afternoon and evening rush hour again. Sweaty and tiring, especially for someone with as strong a dislike of actual work as I have.
@@robinharwood5044 You’re not telling me anything. That describes exactly my work as a tram conductor in Melbourne when most of my shifts were on W class trams and also A class which continue to have no air conditioning except for the driver. But that’s the way things were in those days.
Apart from the attractive colours of the ex-Madrid trams, I don’t see how you can rate it as better than Melbourne and especially the Gold Coast. Traffic lights are hopeless for trams. At least some places in Melbourne slot in a 7 second T light between traffic light phases. Adelaide gets one bite in the cycle and that is it. Compare this with Gold Coast where the trams nearly always get absolute traffic light priority. Gold Coast is no less segregated.
That is Adelaide unfortunately. Melbourne at least has at some locations “7 second” T lights which an approaching tram will initiate before the next traffic light phase. Or a right turn arrow to get rid of right turning cars on the tracks. Adelaide has a fixed point in each cycle for trams, and that is that.
Hoe naam het merk tram en bus dat door de stad rijdt? Heeft stad Mercedes-Benz citaro- of Man-bussen? What is the name of the brand of tram and bus that runs through the city? Does city have Mercedes-Benz Citaro or Man buses? 😊
Yellow trams built by Bombardier. Exact copies of Frankfurt-am-Main. Red and Blue, Citadis, second hand (but probably never used) from Madrid. Buses, who cares? I don’t.
Goed, bedankt voor het antwoord. Mooie trams, maar de bussen zijn niet heel mooi, de bussen lijken op de bussen van de Verenigde Staten Well, thanks for the answer. Nice trams, but the buses are not very nice, the buses look like the buses of the United States.
Nou, ik weet het niet, ik weet het niet, ik denk dat ik in de Verenigde Staten van Amerika alles kan verkopen. Het is niet nodig om iets van een ander continent mee te nemen, ze kunnen een fabriek in Australië bouwen en hun eigen bussen maken volgens hun eigen licentie en ontwerp. Dit zijngewoon mijn vermoedens. Well, I don't know, I don't know, I think I can sell anything in the United States of America. There is no need to bring anything from another continent, they can build a factory in Australia and make their own buses according to their own license and design. These are just my suspicions. 👀😊
Two full time and one part time. The main one is Glenelg (beach) to the hospital. You would have seen that with its central terminal track in this video. The second route you have just seen. The 3rd is the Adloop which includes the short branch near the Oval.
@@tressteleg1 The branch to Festival Plaza is nothing more than a stub. It really should be extended to North Adelaide at the very least in the medium term.
Yes Festival Plaza is pretty useless. Maybe it is more of a place to stash trams when something big is on in the area. In the past Labor was keen for more city branches, but that seems to be forgotten now.
@@michaelhatton2477I think it’s cause the bridge over the Torrens isn’t very structurally sound. It probably can’t hold the weight of a tram. Hopefully when/if they replace that bridge they will extend the tram as well.
Adelaide is a city perfectly suited to trams which is why there should be routes radiating out in all directions. It's depressing how trams are nothing more than a political hot potato and not taken seriously. If the AdeLink proposal had been carried out years ago it'd be well on the way to being a half decent system now, as it was before the 50s. We need a line up to Prospect, one to the airport, a couple going east, another going south as well as a decent circle line around the CBD, and even that should just be for starters. As it currently stands it looks like a system that's been smothered in its crib.
I remember reading about various ambitious tram proposals for Adelaide. Did a change of government kill it off, like the selection off thenGerman busway design killed off a tram extension proposal decades earlier? Perth was the same. A tramway was promised by Labor, Liberals got in and scuttled it, Labor came back to power but conveniently forgot about it all.
Great video Richard! I think it's the first time I watch a drivers view from Adelaide trams. The terminus quite reminds me of Port Melbourne, though this one is much bigger and dual track. I didn't get a chance to visit Adelaide, but the city centre looks very vibrant and the tram line well patronised.
Well patronised because all of the city and branches is without fares!
I love Adelaide
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Wow this was amazing. I can see why Adelaide is loved by money. No crowds and no traffic for those of us used to Melbourne and Sydney. Even if this was filmed on a weekend or public holiday, still so quiet compared our largest cities, which are packed on weekends and public holidays, enough for me to stay away as much as possible. Adelaide seems like a lovely place. I hope to visit one day.
All of this was recorded on a Tuesday and Wednesday. Adelaide is quiet as there is little to attract tourists there. Public transport is aimed at the locals and is very unhelpful for visitors especially if arriving by train.
I've been twice and I like it.
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I went there for a holiday back in January with mum. We really enjoyed it. Got a private tour of the tram museum and managed to traverse the entire tram network; though that's not saying much. Biggest gripe was the zero traffic priority. At least Sydney has some semblance of that nowadays.
Yes the lack of traffic light priority in Adelaide is even worse than Melbourne where at least some places have a 7 second T light slotted in between phase changes.
I hope to check Sydney out again next month but little by little priority has been added to more and more locations. By comparison, Melbourne has none.
Nice ride. Love the exclusive right-of-way for trams. Thank Tresseleg1😀💚
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Great video! As much as I love the videos you post from Melbourne, I also appreciate that you do videos from other cities. A good way to see more of the country!! Thanks!
Unfortunately most tram fans do not share your views and are too parochial to bother with anything outside of their local region. The view numbers make that clear.
@@tressteleg1 That is unfortunate!! I love seeing and exploring new places and things. I love travel, and these videos provide me with an opportunity that I would not have otherwise! Please count me among your loyal viewers! Thanks again!
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@@tressteleg1 Ironically my favourite vids of yours involve anything BUT Melbourne lol
@@michaelhatton2477 I have long thought of Melbourne as being a tramway with a lot of potential which is just as far from being realised now as it was 30 years ago when I worked there. Perhaps you should watch them as examples of what not to do, most of the time anyway.
9:51 You change the tram
Yes. Drivers were happy to put the sunshade right up - if the sun was behind them. So when the tram went around a corner, one half of the ride was recorded at one time of the day, the rest had to wait until the sum moved enough. The Citadis were fine for video, Bombardier cabs had a poor forward view.
Grew up in Adelaide. Had a summer job on the buses and Glenelg tram. Left in 1970. So I could only recognise a couple of buildings on North Terrace . (The university side was covered. I would have recognised that.)
@@robinharwood5044 That would have been a funexperience as summer job. Over the years, some places stay the same, others change a lot.
@@tressteleg1 Not fun at all. It was summer. The buses were not air conditioned. (Hardly anything was in those days.) I was a conductor, which meant I was constantly walking up and down the bus, wearing the hot uniform, and carrying a leather bag full of coins, along with tickets and a punch. In rush hours, I had to work my way through a mass of standing passengers. Most of the time I worked split shifts. Early, morning rush hour, then till noon. Break long enough to go home, eat, shower, but not proper rest. Then late afternoon and evening rush hour again. Sweaty and tiring, especially for someone with as strong a dislike of actual work as I have.
@@robinharwood5044 You’re not telling me anything. That describes exactly my work as a tram conductor in Melbourne when most of my shifts were on W class trams and also A class which continue to have no air conditioning except for the driver. But that’s the way things were in those days.
@@tressteleg1 So “fun” was sarcastic?
@@tressteleg1 And shall we agree that Young People Today don’t know how easy they have it? (Use Yorkshire accent.)
Thanks Richard. Great video. The tram route leaves the Melbourne and Gold Coast routes for dead. Well thought out and good traffic separation. .
Apart from the attractive colours of the ex-Madrid trams, I don’t see how you can rate it as better than Melbourne and especially the Gold Coast. Traffic lights are hopeless for trams. At least some places in Melbourne slot in a 7 second T light between traffic light phases. Adelaide gets one bite in the cycle and that is it. Compare this with Gold Coast where the trams nearly always get absolute traffic light priority. Gold Coast is no less segregated.
You're serious about being better than Gold Coast? Without traffic light priority.
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The lack of traffic light priority is crazy … both for Light Rail and Bus.
That is Adelaide unfortunately. Melbourne at least has at some locations “7 second” T lights which an approaching tram will initiate before the next traffic light phase. Or a right turn arrow to get rid of right turning cars on the tracks. Adelaide has a fixed point in each cycle for trams, and that is that.
Hoe naam het merk tram en bus dat door de stad rijdt? Heeft stad Mercedes-Benz citaro- of Man-bussen?
What is the name of the brand of tram and bus that runs through the city? Does city have Mercedes-Benz Citaro or Man buses? 😊
Yellow trams built by Bombardier. Exact copies of Frankfurt-am-Main. Red and Blue, Citadis, second hand (but probably never used) from Madrid. Buses, who cares? I don’t.
Goed, bedankt voor het antwoord. Mooie trams, maar de bussen zijn niet heel mooi, de bussen lijken op de bussen van de Verenigde Staten
Well, thanks for the answer. Nice trams, but the buses are not very nice, the buses look like the buses of the United States.
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Looks, maybe, but I don’t think anyone here buys US buses.
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Nou, ik weet het niet, ik weet het niet, ik denk dat ik in de Verenigde Staten van Amerika alles kan verkopen. Het is niet nodig om iets van een ander continent mee te nemen, ze kunnen een fabriek in Australië bouwen en hun eigen bussen maken volgens hun eigen licentie en ontwerp. Dit zijngewoon mijn vermoedens.
Well, I don't know, I don't know, I think I can sell anything in the United States of America. There is no need to bring anything from another continent, they can build a factory in Australia and make their own buses according to their own license and design. These are just my suspicions. 👀😊
The whole route is free zone right?
I believe so, and additionally all the way down to South Terrace. Seems to be a lot of kilometres producing no income whatsoever.
How many trams lines dies Adelaide have?
Two full time and one part time. The main one is Glenelg (beach) to the hospital. You would have seen that with its central terminal track in this video. The second route you have just seen. The 3rd is the Adloop which includes the short branch near the Oval.
@@tressteleg1 The branch to Festival Plaza is nothing more than a stub. It really should be extended to North Adelaide at the very least in the medium term.
Yes Festival Plaza is pretty useless. Maybe it is more of a place to stash trams when something big is on in the area. In the past Labor was keen for more city branches, but that seems to be forgotten now.
@@michaelhatton2477I think it’s cause the bridge over the Torrens isn’t very structurally sound. It probably can’t hold the weight of a tram. Hopefully when/if they replace that bridge they will extend the tram as well.
I love them and I have a folder about them
come take a ride! (at folder 2) :))
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trains, trams, aren't they all beautifull
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Is this a new tram route?
The Botanic Gardens portion opened late 2018.
Adelaide is a city perfectly suited to trams which is why there should be routes radiating out in all directions. It's depressing how trams are nothing more than a political hot potato and not taken seriously. If the AdeLink proposal had been carried out years ago it'd be well on the way to being a half decent system now, as it was before the 50s. We need a line up to Prospect, one to the airport, a couple going east, another going south as well as a decent circle line around the CBD, and even that should just be for starters. As it currently stands it looks like a system that's been smothered in its crib.
I remember reading about various ambitious tram proposals for Adelaide. Did a change of government kill it off, like the selection off thenGerman busway design killed off a tram extension proposal decades earlier? Perth was the same. A tramway was promised by Labor, Liberals got in and scuttled it, Labor came back to power but conveniently forgot about it all.