Role Of The Wrist In Tennis - Part 1 - The Forehand

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024

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  • @assimnaodamais
    @assimnaodamais 5 лет назад +32

    Another fantastic video for the already fantastic collection of the best instruction available. It does not need all the fanfare and deception that other self called experts provide. Simple. Accurate and incredible helpful. I do hope people grasp the dimension of having such great lessons. Thank you again and again

    • @Dubinski2382
      @Dubinski2382 5 лет назад +1

      Mauricio Castro Agree. He's got a special talent. He knows how to convey the information everyone else can't seem to make sense of. And he defined his buzz words! Brilliant. Thank you!

  • @2ndAveScents
    @2ndAveScents 4 года назад +3

    I’ve been watching tennis instructionals on RUclips since 2014. You are by far the best, hands down. Straight to the meat and bones of the topic with no fat. Tons of great information from someone who is clearly passionate enough to address the minutiae without clouding your message with unnecessary details. I’ve never wasted a second of my life while watching your videos. Thank you brother, wish you all the best.

  • @joelhammrac
    @joelhammrac 5 лет назад +13

    This is truly fantastic advice. I am critical of close to 100% of online tennis instruction, and this might be the first time I have witnessed a flawless analysis. Bravo! You have gained a new fan. 👍

  • @lemondrank
    @lemondrank 2 года назад

    i love how you break down all the wrist movements at the beginning of this video...was constantly referencing it while watching the other parts of this series. it really helped me to give a name to the wrist movements that happen during any given shot...kinda like an ahah moment of realizing when i hit a bad forehand its prolly because i was using an ulnar deviation movement when i should be keeping the wrist extended. or that the serve is a slight combination of radial deviation and wrist extension as youre letting the racquet drop and move upward. thank you for the 'scientific' explanations :D

  • @stevenmckelvey80
    @stevenmckelvey80 2 года назад +1

    Nick thanks a bunch for this informative, insider information you share with us

  • @林威廷-i7l
    @林威廷-i7l 5 лет назад +5

    the best video for tennis players

  • @robertrenk7074
    @robertrenk7074 5 лет назад +6

    Thank you such useful information.

  • @edugurian
    @edugurian 5 лет назад +6

    Nick is one of the best tennis coach for sure! Excellent explanation about the role of the wrist on forehand. Waiting for explanation about the role of backhand´s. Thanks!!!

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 лет назад +1

      Edu, thanks

    • @Dubinski2382
      @Dubinski2382 5 лет назад +1

      Second. Defining the movement terminology at the beginning was brilliant. So important and so well visualized. I'm more impressed with each video.

  • @andreacook3767
    @andreacook3767 4 года назад +2

    Really like that you were specific and clear about this topic - it's one that teaching pros often disagree about. I think that if the lag goes properly and the wrist is passive like you said the player can find their comfort level him or herself, but you have given great parameters for what a player should try to do and feel

  • @CB4956
    @CB4956 5 лет назад +19

    a passive wrist is not the best selection of words here.( I think stable would be better)..however I love this guy,one of the best

    • @ignacioambort7438
      @ignacioambort7438 4 года назад +1

      stabilization of the wrist comes from the forearm muscles. No from the joints. So passive is ok. Still good for you to check the videos im a coach also.

    • @ignacioambort7438
      @ignacioambort7438 3 года назад

      @@bournejason66 it depends on which forehand, but a little of deviation is naturally flowing as well of some flexion after the contact

    • @tehatte
      @tehatte 3 года назад

      @@bournejason66 I think I watched some slomo videos of Federer’s FH where his racket head moved up at the ball right before contact but that small radial deviation seems to be produced by his forearm rotation while his wrist is still locked in the extended position.

  • @ignacioambort7438
    @ignacioambort7438 4 года назад +1

    thumbs up. this guy did his homework

  • @observer1111
    @observer1111 Год назад +1

    This is super fair and helpful ‼☝ 👍👍👍

  • @pats300zx
    @pats300zx 5 лет назад +6

    Another great video Nick. So informative and precise compared to other channels. Really looking forward to this series.

  • @debbypajerowski5690
    @debbypajerowski5690 2 года назад +1

    Game changing! Thank you!

  • @klaw03
    @klaw03 5 лет назад +8

    Great advice, wish I saw your video sooner! For a while, I experimented with forcing wrist extension and flexion through my forehand. Gave me extra power and I could control it. However, I tried doing this for an extended amount of time in a tennis tournament and finished with a TFCC injury, which I still have today. Don't force your wrists, it's not worth it!

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 лет назад +1

      Kevin, what’s TFCC?

    • @klaw03
      @klaw03 5 лет назад +1

      ​@@IntuitiveTennis Triangular Fibrocartilage Complex - Basically it's the cartilage on the pinky side of the wrist. It's what Del Potro had issues with

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 лет назад +2

      Kevin, argh that awful man. Thankfully I never had pain there, but I can imagine it’s excruciating.

    • @klaw03
      @klaw03 5 лет назад +1

      ​@@IntuitiveTennis Thankfully it's not that bad anymore! Just have to play with a brace on for a few more months

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 лет назад +3

      Kevin, glad to hear that you’re pain free

  • @MrDarius2002
    @MrDarius2002 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic video. I have been getting serious about my tennis for a couple of years and the wrist action on the forehand has bamboozled me that whole time. This video brought so much clarity and answers all the questions I had about the role the wrist plays. Thank you Nikola and IntuitiveTennis for the fantastic content!

  • @pl5778
    @pl5778 4 года назад +1

    this series really deserves more view. this is great stuff.

  • @alexabney7913
    @alexabney7913 3 года назад

    If you close your stance you can hit the topspin lob by hitting through and dragging the ball up the string bed so the crosses do all the spin work. Its easiest to do when the ball comes with some power. I keep my arm straight and use eastern grip tho so idk of that works for other kinds of players

  • @themrstroke
    @themrstroke 3 года назад +1

    Superb instruction. You so correctly emphasize that pretty much anything we are concerned about other than having a relaxed passive wrist extension at contact is probably making things to complicated.

  • @DM-bx1zv
    @DM-bx1zv 5 лет назад +6

    Awesome instruction. Thank you for posting.

  • @shirin8402
    @shirin8402 4 года назад +1

    You're so GOOD, definitely!
    I'm indeed much obliged to you for your support. It's so clear, to the point, so helpful!
    Please do accept my tons of thanks for helping in wrist role!

  • @catalinsimescu9872
    @catalinsimescu9872 5 лет назад +5

    Interesting topic ,very well explained.
    Thank you and waiting for more quality videos from you.
    All the best.

  • @donho4109
    @donho4109 5 лет назад +4

    Excellent video, as always!

  • @jeblunde1
    @jeblunde1 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant video - just what I needed to fix a problem on the FH. I wondered why I was good at short angles and lobs but couldn’t hit anything else with consistency! Thanks Nick.

  • @sirpetrov3945
    @sirpetrov3945 4 года назад +2

    What a great lesson ! I'm a very passionate new tennis fan, I already watched few of your videos and I want to thank you for that amazing content ! :)

  • @Dan1elAndrade
    @Dan1elAndrade 4 года назад +1

    I always thought I had to use my wrist to add a bit of spin! Could you tell me how can I add a *bit* of topspin into my balls to avoid the ball going out? Perhaps raising the racquet a little bit more after contact?

  • @yussepig6629
    @yussepig6629 2 года назад

    What about high deep balls (eg above head or shoulder)? Any wrist needed ?

  • @jonathanchen1026
    @jonathanchen1026 5 лет назад +3

    I think I’m misusing the wrist at contact for spin and power but continued use of wrist starts to have soreness and pain, so I need to correct this... also it’s not 100% reliable and I’m less consistent with this method

  • @t1mmytiger
    @t1mmytiger 2 года назад +1

    Excellent instruction

  • @idcharles3739
    @idcharles3739 3 года назад

    I understand your comments that control is harder with wrist extension on the forehand, however, it's often easier for a club player to hit hard enough to get to the back of the court if they do use wrist extension. And many club players use wrist extension very easily to get their power - even (or especially) the older ladies.
    I also think you should point out that almost all Pro forehand shots involve wrist extension and ALL the fastest forehands (see RUclips videos of the fastest forehands) use massive forehand extension, such as monfils and kyrgios.

  • @omarsultanov362
    @omarsultanov362 5 лет назад +5

    Important topic. Great analysis!
    I'd just call it "fixed wrist" instead of a "passive wrist" but it's not that important given tonns of absolutely amazing insight which hopefully would save thousands of people from injuries and frustrations. 👍👏😊

  • @jasonbigg8341
    @jasonbigg8341 3 года назад +1

    Awesome as always, thanks mate.

  • @krishnaraju9242
    @krishnaraju9242 5 лет назад +5

    Top class instructions . thanks !

  • @kjfoehr
    @kjfoehr 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks, good info. What about the swinging volley? It looks like Krygios flexes his wrist at contact when hitting them.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 лет назад +2

      kjfoehr, send me the link and I’ll take a look

  • @maxprince4060
    @maxprince4060 2 года назад

    Hey Nick, I have a question. For some reason my wrist goes in a Ulnar Deviation at the moment of contact, It's like a mix between extension and ulnar deviation because they're happening at the same time on my forehand. Is it OK to hit forehand like that, or should I be trying to force my wrist to just have an extension? I have tried to just have an extension but my wrist keep automatically wanting to go into that mix wrist position. Is it a problem with my forearm rotation or any other parts of the body? Thank you. Also you're one of the best online tennis instructors/coaches I've seen. Thank you.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  2 года назад

      Thank you Max, I can’t give advice out of context. I’d have to see it

    • @maxprince4060
      @maxprince4060 2 года назад

      @@IntuitiveTennis Hey Nick, no need for advice anymore. Turns out when I was doing the take back on my forehand I was forcing the racquet to drop and make the strings face the ball immediately, which caused my wrist to go into ulnar deviation. The fix was to naturally let the unit turn happen and my strings would face the ball naturally at the point of contact. Also, I gotta say, your response was pretty quick. You have very good at interacting with your community.

  • @Jdish88
    @Jdish88 4 года назад

    Nick, how much tightness in the wrist and hand is appropriate? I understand you want the wrist passive. If you locked the hand and wrist the racket wouldn’t lag, right? But too loose and the wrist would go into flexion on the drop.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  4 года назад +1

      Don’t think about the wrist Justin. Naturally it’s going to be correct by feel and muscle memory. I got a video coming out on this in two weeks...

  • @matijam9999
    @matijam9999 4 года назад

    But player has to squeeze racquet a little bit at contact, right? For control, right?

  • @ruggerosale
    @ruggerosale 5 лет назад +4

    Excellent video again Nick!
    Could you just add a few thoughts on Supination and Pronation on the Forehand please?
    I had the impression that you at least supinate the wrist ( eastern and semi-western ) during the takeback?
    Thanks in advance and looking forward to the next wrist videos 👍

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 лет назад +3

      Ruggero, Thanks
      As mentioned in the video all forehands should have wrist extension in the forward phase. Some forehands will have minor supination in the forward phase depending on the racquet position on the drop. There are vast differences on the pro tours how the racquet drop is performed and that’s a story for another day.
      Pronation might occur, but it’s after contact and it’s nothing more than personal preference. This has no effect on the stroke, unless it’s forced resulting in a shorter, choppier swing.

  • @zafar78600
    @zafar78600 3 года назад

    I understand the wrist is extended. But is it ulnar or radial deviated?

  • @Hawaii2471
    @Hawaii2471 3 месяца назад

    What about hitting slice do you use your wrist?

    • @Hawaii2471
      @Hawaii2471 3 месяца назад

      Also what about Backhand and wrist?

  • @sanjaykietme1
    @sanjaykietme1 4 года назад

    please put slow motion forehand with back court level view and side view, i am learning forehand basics.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  4 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/BksrsaixSKY/видео.html

    • @sanjaykietme1
      @sanjaykietme1 4 года назад +1

      @@IntuitiveTennis thanks for the reply, can you please share the link of beginner forehand.

  • @Fernwald84
    @Fernwald84 5 лет назад +4

    Very thorough treatment of the forehand wrist topic, Nick! I wonder if, with the Western forehand, there is actually wrist deviation right at ball contact, unlike forehands with the semi-Western or Eastern grips. I've briefly experimented with the Western forehand and I find it hurts my wrist because of the seeming necessity of rotating it right at ball contact.
    Also, will you be treating the use of the wrist in the serve?

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 лет назад +3

      George, on the western grip the wrist is passive at contact and it gets activated in the same place as the eastern and semi-western grip, which is when the tip of the racquet is pointing towards the sky assuming the incoming ball is at a normal height. The only difference on the western grip is that the wrist is less extended at contact and therefore high balls are a little easier to handle. That’s why you see so many young juniors with western grips.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 лет назад +2

      George, and yes the serve is Part 4 of the series. Next up is the backhand.

    • @Fernwald84
      @Fernwald84 5 лет назад +2

      @@IntuitiveTennis Thank, Nick. So I gather that the only difference with the Western forehand is that the ball is taken further back ("later"), but the wrist mechanics are basically the same.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 лет назад +2

      George, I don’t think it’s further back. The wrist is more neutral at contact bc of the grip. That is the major difference. Take a look at Sock, Djokovic, less extension in the wrist at contact. The hand is more underneath the racquet. Here’s one of my older videos where I discuss this topic in-depth:
      ruclips.net/video/0k6XcutCfXw/видео.html

  • @jobphan4755
    @jobphan4755 5 лет назад +4

    Useful

  • @humanentity2214
    @humanentity2214 3 года назад

    What do you think about medvedev forehand, he seems to be slapping the ball with the wrist, I might be wrong

  • @bassmann666
    @bassmann666 4 года назад

    You All say this is ok, but i am confused!!
    in rallys when i hit the ball with topspin i use the wrist lag to get much more acceleration, what about that Nick?

  • @krunalpatel4829
    @krunalpatel4829 2 года назад +1

    Love your videos👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

  • @jalany135
    @jalany135 3 года назад +1

    Learned a lot from your videos sir. Love it ❤️

  • @txmpesv26
    @txmpesv26 4 года назад

    When your wrist is laid back on contact , how will the windshield wiper happen?

  • @ruggierojerolli
    @ruggierojerolli 4 года назад

    Hello Nikola. Indeed we all now can be convinced that you are 100% correct in the "passive role of the wrist" in the topspin forehand throughout your brilliant demonstration. Please ¿Which one is the video where you also emphasize this precise topic showing a Nadal slow motion forehand where is very clear that "passive" wrist?. Thank you.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  4 года назад +1

      Thank you ruggerio
      Here’s my Nadal video
      ruclips.net/video/z-z303UZSiU/видео.html

  • @K4R3N
    @K4R3N 4 года назад +1

    Man I have been doing it wrong for a long time! Thank you coach Nik!👍

  • @lordbyron3603
    @lordbyron3603 4 года назад

    This is good information. I took snap shots of each positions. If the wrist is used for control, where does the power come from? In observing my own stroke, I have an active wrist flexion LOL. My style of hitting is of the second type of hitting you demonstrated. However, I sometimes keep my wrist steady when a ball jams me (bounces 6 inches from my feet).

  • @vervastar
    @vervastar 2 года назад

    I have the radial rotation after I hit almost every shot and I’m not sure how to fix it. It’s like once I hit the ball my racquet just goes straight up instead of having the top of the racquet facing the other side of the net. It seems like something hard to learn to fix. Any tips? Thank you!

  • @wangrobbie6867
    @wangrobbie6867 3 года назад +1

    So Classic

  • @TAMANCoLTD
    @TAMANCoLTD 2 года назад

    I shouldve watched this. I already got my wrist injury

  • @direwolf525
    @direwolf525 5 лет назад +2

    There is a wrist movement on contact.. but you have to keep the wrist loose in preparation... dont lock your wrist from the start

    • @omarsultanov362
      @omarsultanov362 5 лет назад +2

      Pardon for meddling Dire Wolf but it seems Nick covered both options: with the ready/upright (but not the locked for sure...😃) wrist & with the completely relaxed one making it "passive" at the moment of a contact with the ball.
      I didn't get the impression of a "locked" wrist advice. Best regards 😊

    • @direwolf525
      @direwolf525 2 года назад

      @@bournejason66 Other pro coach don't teach this...

  • @THEGOAT-gw2xi
    @THEGOAT-gw2xi 2 года назад

  • @liwei9136
    @liwei9136 5 лет назад +3

    It's true that followthrough has no effect on the ball, but it can tell how the body hit the ball. I watched in slow mo and found that you keep your wrist in extension way too long than any top players in the world after the contact point, so you were pushing not brushing the ball, thus lack of spin? Open to discussion, thanks anyway.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 лет назад +5

      Li, this is not a lesson on the finish or flat vs topspin forehands. This is a lesson on the role of the wrist. There is not a single top player who uses the wrist actively and this includes players with extreme spin (Sock, Nadal).
      Lessons on the above mentioned items and slow motion footage of my forehand can be found here:
      ruclips.net/video/O9mm58MVmPI/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/K4RGNRqfi54/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/BksrsaixSKY/видео.html
      and to clear up the so called “pushing and brushing” check this out
      ruclips.net/video/DnphtxmN4bE/видео.html

    • @liwei9136
      @liwei9136 5 лет назад +2

      @@IntuitiveTennis Subscription confirmed, take it! XD

  • @eventhorizon908
    @eventhorizon908 4 года назад +1

    This part HAS nothing to do with tennis: from elbow to fingertips. It only holds the racket. If someone tells you to do anything with wrist, run like hell. This is famous Asian (Vietnamese, etc) style of medically damaging "teaching" (play): they start by teaching how to move the wrist to "make ball spin". This is NOT how tennis is played. You do NOT teach "the tail to wag the dog". You start teaching tennis from other end: leg, torso. 99% of tennis is about leg and torso. Whoever mentions any "wrist' in tennis, they are chess players and never played tennis in their life. Run like hell from people who teach "wrist". It is like teaching "pound your fists on table as hard as you can if you want to win in chess".
    Hint: spin of the ball is achieved by 1) leg, and 2) proper torso and 3) shoulder positioning. Wrist has NOTHING to do with spin. Sounds paradoxically, but professional (and medically correct) strokes are just counter-intuitive to average tennis player. You might understand what I am talking about in 10 to 50 years, but it will be too late to re-learn. Take a lesson from professionals, dude. But even 99% professionals will not be able to explain to you the correct way, even if they play at 8.0 level.
    So, when you say "we use the wrist" - this is incorrect. We never use wrist in tennis. "Wrist" does not exist in tennis. It only holds the raquet. I did not even watch your video because of what you wrote in title.
    "Pronation" and "supination" are only residual effects, like a lithmus test, to indicate that you executed the previous steps (moves) correctly. We do not actively use wrist, "pronation", "supination", etc. Those are passive things in tennis. Do not teach the tail to wag the dog. What seems to you visually, is most often achieved in opposite way in tennis, counter to your beginner intuition.
    Learn about the Kinetic Chain. It is the main and only thing that drives any stroke.
    Notice how you named yourself: Intuitive tennis. The professional tennis stroke mechanics are COUNTER-intuitive.
    You are teaching good amateur intuitive (very harmful to joints) tennis. Professional tennis is counter-intuitive, medically not harmful, and very efficient (effortless).

    • @theorrb1846
      @theorrb1846 4 года назад +2

      EventHorizon I agree, i personally dont think about the wrist at all it just comes naturally but I just saw a video of Djokovic who obviously has a pretty good forehand and he was asked how you can generate more spin and he Said something to the gist of using your wrist to brush more over the ball. Again I personally dont do this and dont actually care anymore because everyone says something different but i can see where people get this from.

  • @smokinjoe4684
    @smokinjoe4684 3 года назад

    Rafa locks his wrist basically right away doesn't he?

  • @CB4956
    @CB4956 2 года назад

    Passive is a very confusing word