@@misterbee66he told her to check herself. That she was ok when Kim was cheering for her but had a problem when she was starting to come up on her own. I literally just finished watching it lol
One thing I will say about this show is that its very realistic. Its the sad truth. There are people that do act like this and the drama was very realistic for a sitcom imo.
To you it may not but for some, it does. Who the hell wants to watch something that's not realistic? Unless, in fact it's science-fiction.@@melodysafo5437
Kim is not even fat though!? The 90’s truly were brutal for women if they believed she was overweight. Kim not only was healthy but she had great fashion sense aswell. Countess was that girl
She was definitely overweight for the standards back then, she was a chubby girl. Remember, body trends change over time. “Thick” wasn’t a thing back then.
Unfortunately this is realistic. Some teens and young adults are absolute terrors to their family and friend group. Frank & Moesha were both terrible characters.
@@NES-ml3by I hate when people say that, because the Parkers was a totally different show, and it was even more problematic because they played into the desperate big girl troupe - and much more fictional. They had scenarios that wouldn't even happen in real life lol. Parkers was a sitcom, Moesha was a dramedy. I loved them both individually for what they were.
Moesha could be a terrible friend too 💀. The episode where her and Niecey was fat shaming Kim and Kim’s boyfriend Michael had to confront both Moesha and Niecey about it.
Moesha was my FAVORITE show as a kid and rewatching on Netflix was like culture shock. She was HORRIBLEEEEEEEE. I could NOT even make it through the first season.
Yesss! I tried watching with my daughter and she was like “why did you like this show again? I didn’t have an answer because she was a mess and not relatable at all!
I love Brandy but lowkey I wouldn't be surprised if she treated Countess Vaughn the same way off camera. They didn't like each other /always beefing while filming Moesha.
@@thetruesoulofanaquarius9302I said the same thing!!! Brandy definitely took shots at her back in the day in her magazine interviews when they were feuding
@@leiiib if you look at the Rolanda talk show when the whole cast was on there from Moesha. Brandy was looking at Countess all up and down when she was interviewing.
I don’t understand what was the problem with Kim’s weight. Moesha used to body shamed her, but Kim wasn’t all that big just a little bit thicker than everyone else.
Dee should have slapped Moesha a few times. I hated how Moesha treated Kim also. I would have been done with Niecy and Moesha when they were talking about her on that phone call.
Chile I said the same thing lol, Frank should have reprimanded Moesha for the way she spoke to her. That phone call should have been the end of their friendship
@@iconicallyiconic facts 💯 I use to feel so sorry for Dee. She truly loved Frank to be dealing with a brat like Moesha. Especially the episode when Moesha went off and embarrassed Dee about them replacing the old furniture. Mo definitely would have caught hands.👊🏿
@@thetruesoulofanaquarius9302 that was Moesha's deceased mother's furniture. It wasn't " old furniture ". You're sounding just as disrespectful as Dee for throwing it out.
But y’all mustve forgot it was revealed that they had all gossiped about each other at one point behind each others back. To me this was just real life typical teenage girl drama lol
Hakeem too. Moesha was always meddling in his business. She was very critical and judgemental when Hakeem was dating an older woman just to end up developing her older teacher later in the show
well damn i guess i shouldn’t rewatch moesha as an adult. i loved this show when i was in elementary and middle school. moesha didn't seem as insufferable when i was a kid. she is so mean to her friends.
When I rewatched the show as an adult it really made me dislike Moesha , she is so intolerable ughh and she definitely treated Dee messed up at times when Dee was just trying with her
I actually fault Frank for a lot of Moesha’s issues with Dee. I don’t think Moesha got any kind of grief counseling for her mother’s death and then allowing Moesha to step into her mother’s role by making the family’s meals for years and then being all, “no worries, we’ve got Dee now,” sounds like a recipe for resentment. Plus, the furniture issue, it would’ve been better to give Moesha the option of having her mom’s furniture l kept in storage so that she could have it when she got older as opposed to selling it without considering her feelings. They didn’t blend the family well.
I love Brandy but she had some issues on set with not only Countess but Ms. Sherly Lee Ralph as well which makes me believe she was similar to her character in a lot of ways. That episode with her embarrassing Hakeem in front of everyone for loaning him $20 showed the type of friend she was.
And don’t forget the beef that she had with Monica. I know it doesn’t have anything to do with the show, but I think Brandy has a little bit of a mean streak in her.
Moesha did change how she treated Dee once Dee's niece came to visit (Laura from family matters). They got close as she got older, especially when she was dating Aaron. I definitely didn't like her with Q and as I got older I realized she treated Kim real bad. She had a lot of moments when she was a terrible friend.
I feel like Brandy played her actual self as Moesha. She’s always seemed shady to me. You saw the way she was acting toward Monica at the verzuz battle. The only time I’ve seen her sweet was in Cinderella and that’s probably only because she knew Whitney would have snatched her up for acting up.
YES!!! Brandy is entitled because her parents put her on in being a star. She has that attitude with everything... Lying that she was married because she's "too good" to be a Baby Mother...
@@juanautrey6228 it was Brandy’s snarky comments. And she’s been shady outside of that. Monica even spoke about it when she was a guest host on The Real. And she’s performed the boy is mine live before and changed up the lyrics to throw shade at Monica.
Yeah, now that you mention it every role that Brandy has done since Cinderella and before Cinderella, she’s basically been a mean girl. There has to be a reason that she plays that role so well, and it seems to be the only role she plays.
I’m still pissed from when she declined that new car from her dad. I’ll never forget. Her character just got worse as the show progressed. She was not a good friend.
Yeah, as teen dramas back in the 90s and 2000s were true reflections on depicting reality. Unlike with teen dramas today such as Riverdale and The Summer I Turned Pretty that are obsessed with featuring unrealistic depictions of “lgbt” by unrealistically having every character be depicted as “lgbt.”
@@NES-ml3by So having people shown as being true to human nature, or “straight” as you refer it to, since if it wasn’t for your “straight” parents you wouldn’t have been born as a result, is somehow wrong or a bad thing? Because it sounds like the 90s and 2000s, since I would know as I grew up in those times, were a time when people actually enjoyed life without being so obsessed with living a life of self hatred and false pride that comes with choosing to become “lgbt” that has become so prevalent in today’s times for whatever bizarre reason. Since you must be really soft from the obsessive PC enforcement of these modern times if you can’t take any jokes or humor on gay people, because all kinds of people get made fun of onscreen in laughing with the audience and not at them, otherwise as a Christian, I’d be complaining like you anytime shows like the Simpsons made fun of Christianity or religion in general, since I actually know that they’re jokes that are not meant to be taken seriously.
@@johnnyd3158 that's not really fair to say bc you said every show today has to many gay characters and they said back then there was no gay characters. If you wanna disagree or be homophobic atleast be fair about it
@@usersareoverrated5652 It’s amazing how closed minded people like you want to accuse more open minded people like me of being fearful of “lgbt” by using negative human words like “homophobic,” whatever that means, when it’s you who’s the fearful one of people’s opinions that are the opposite of yours by being istophobic. Since obviously it’s not about fear, it’s about common sense and perception, of which you’re lacking from the sounds of it As I have no reason to be scared of sin and evil like “lgbt,” because I was taught the difference between the righteous of Christ, and the temptations of sin. Since in God’s perfect world, all sin is nonexistent as we all live in peace and harmony, unlike humanity’s perfect world in which the line between good and sin is blurred.
ill never forget and forgive her for outing Hakeem’s gay cousin 🤌🏾 & IN THAT ERA ????? IN HIGH SCHOOL ??? 🤦🏾♂️ and she really didn’t actually confirm it first, just made a huge assumption 🤦🏾♂️ in real life she would’ve been the start of sooo many people’s evil villain stories i swear 😂
@@Kingofthenet2 especially on that episode when he called her a “slut” when she got that tattoo or the belly piercing I really don’t remember which one it was I want to say she got both done and wanted to wear a crop top to show it off and he called her slut for it , and told her to go change . Yet he had a whole secret son and affair he was hiding from the world (ray J ) .
@@jaymitaylor9937 omg I remember that. It was totally uncalled for to call his own daughter this. She wasn’t even that underdressed. The crop top wasn’t as bad. That’s honestly what did it for me and made him the worst dad on TV history
Y'all can see her character flaws and immaturity but can't understand why her father was so strict with her because fathers aren't supposed to notice what kind of person their child is
At what point of this video did I mention Frank ? 👀 this video is a breakdown about MOESHA. The topic at hand was Moesha secondly I have no issue with Frank’s parenting yes at some points he may have been too hard on her, but for the most part I agree with him.
@@iconicallyiconic This is just from my personal viewing experience, but personally I saw it as Moesha growing into a problematic person as a direct result of Frank's crappy, misogynistic parenting.
@@iconicallyiconicfrank wasn’t that great of a father. I know in the black community he is revered as this “amazing black father that other dads should strive to be” but he definitely had a toxic attitude towards how teenage girls should behave and that’s not something that should be brushed off.
The way she always inserted herself in Hakeems business annoyed the hell out of me. she was a spoiled brat who couldn't handle things going her way ... now later on she does mature in her ways a bit but those first 3 seasons she was aggravating
3:55 the way Countess deLIVERED lol her funny ass delivery literally set Melinda up for a good laugh and she slam dunked . Team effort lol I absolutely love that part hahahaha can you tell
I would’ve taken the Saturn. It looked very nice coupe style. If the car was paid in full she could’ve kept it for the year saved up and traded the car in for the jeep and pay the difference. She could’ve went about way better
I just watched Moesha for the first time about 2 years ago. I couldn't stand this girl sometimes. I kinda related to her and her relationship with Dee (I lost my mom about 15 years ago when I was 7), so i get why she wasnt really feeling it. Id KILL for a stepmom like Dee because mine is not it 👀💀. On top of that, i still cant get over how her dad bought her a reliable, paid off car and she turned it down cause she wasnt vibing with it. Her dad owened a whole dealership so he wasnt throwing her a piece of junk like wtf. Sis was late to her own graduation because her own car broke down. That could never be me😂
Bruh. Everytime I’ve binged Moesha, I get so annoyed. Spoiled, attitudinal, ignorant, problematic. I will never forgive her for giving her Dad that Saturn back, cause sis wtf is wrong with you 😭 Then the way she treated Kim……!!!!!!!!!!! Whew Chile. I love Brandy as an artist, but her character on Moesha……she would’ve caught some hands at the right high school!!
I mean Moesha in real life would probably get into a lot of physical altercations due to her being her, but I feel like Moesha can actually fight and wouldn't be the person you wanna fuck with.
The writers definitely utilised facts about the characters. No wonder Countess got that botched termination. Being big and then pregnant was like a double homicide...
Another thing i never liked about moesha or a lot of 89's/2000's female characters is how big crazy they were. Like how many times has moesha put her and her friends in trouble because of her obsession with her little boyfriends.
Moesha pissed me off a lot on this show. That's why it's important to rewatch shows you loved as a kid once you're an adult. Moesha was terrible. It was messed up too when she clowned Hakeem for owing her money only to find out his mama couldn't pay the bills.
Yeah, I've been re-watching episodes of Moesha and she was a problem. But her character is realistic, just like her dad was problem as well. Moesha did have some cute boyfriends though! woo! lol
Oh you’ve got to do some more videos like this , this was goood lol you should do Blair next because she was so problematic, classist and a complete bully I would love a video on her 😊 great video
I love Brandy and she's my birthday twin. But I always knew Mo was problematic bc Frank was problematic and expected the most from her. Kim was my fave and I followed her straight to The Parkers! 😅😊😊
I loved the show this is my comfort show… but I gotta admit there are certain episodes and seasons I can’t stand to watch. Mo was a terror. I do believe Brandy was playing herself 😅 I heard it used to go down on the set.
As I got older watching this show, I hated it, I didnt like how they treated Kim that's for sure, and Moesha was so ungrateful , spoiled and a narracist... she was just like father . She was a terrible friend to Kim.
One episode that made me very hot was when she demanded Dee to apologize to her because Dee was trying to sell the couch she had an amazing step mom she had no reason to be so mean
Seasons 2 and 3 were really where the show started reaching its peak. The seasons after that were flat-out trash, especially with the introduction of Ray J's character.
Huh 😅 she was extremely disrespectful.. which Frank would let her slide because her mom passed and it’s understandable. But it’s like look this is your fathers wife now. Dee was always humble never forced her to call her mom or anything. Dee stayed in her lane, until she thought it was appropriate to speak up. I’m glad Moesha changed her stance towards Dee later in the show. Frank irked me with his judgmental self.
Moesha was the show to watch in its heyday nd even watching it then I really didn’t like Moesha watching it now she was too stuck up didn’t like what she did to Hakeem’s cousin nd his gf Tiffany it’s like whenever anyone has something better it’s like she gotta get that too
The cheerleading episode always pissed me off. I’m glad Hakeem put her in her place, he was a real one ❤
I agree but what did he say to Moesha in that episode? I forgot.
@@misterbee66he told her to check herself. That she was ok when Kim was cheering for her but had a problem when she was starting to come up on her own. I literally just finished watching it lol
@@paradiseharper9343Kim was wrong too dont goad your friend into trying out for the team because you lack the self confidence to try out on your own
@@msnewsenior Fair point
One thing I will say about this show is that its very realistic. Its the sad truth. There are people that do act like this and the drama was very realistic for a sitcom imo.
Doesn’t matter.
To you it may not but for some, it does. Who the hell wants to watch something that's not realistic? Unless, in fact it's science-fiction.@@melodysafo5437
Absolutely
@@melodysafo5437what was the point of this comment?
Facts
Kim is not even fat though!? The 90’s truly were brutal for women if they believed she was overweight. Kim not only was healthy but she had great fashion sense aswell. Countess was that girl
The black community shes absolutely not fat shes thick .. Them others folks community yes they would consider her to be soo
Well, she's not thin. I would say she is slightly overweight, yes.
She was definitely overweight for the standards back then, she was a chubby girl. Remember, body trends change over time. “Thick” wasn’t a thing back then.
@@user-cx3qi2gx6cmaybe on the west coast but in the south and Midwest her body type was accepted
fr she just had a round face..
I am shocked that no one ever jumped Moesha after school. She was deserving of more than a few bops to the head.
Lol I agree
Advocating violence............Sheesh.
@@rejectionisprotection4448 I can’t comment anything mean or I’ll get banned again
And when she turned down that Saturn! Damn!
Unfortunately this is realistic. Some teens and young adults are absolute terrors to their family and friend group. Frank & Moesha were both terrible characters.
Moesha acted just like Frank just the teen girl version!
@@brandywine5689 exactly they were both awful and unlikable. They were such narcissistic towards everyone around them.
Which why they always bumped heads and didn't see eye to eye because they were just alike.
@@NES-ml3by I agree. Moesha was just an ok show, while the Parkers was hysterical and overall better
@@NES-ml3by I hate when people say that, because the Parkers was a totally different show, and it was even more problematic because they played into the desperate big girl troupe - and much more fictional. They had scenarios that wouldn't even happen in real life lol. Parkers was a sitcom, Moesha was a dramedy. I loved them both individually for what they were.
They also made all the boys attracted to Moesha like Neicy and Kim was ugly.
Exactly. I think that they are better looking than Brandy is.
Exactly Especially Neicy She Was Fine As Hell.
This!
@@alwanthony6910 I was just about to say that! She was so damn beautiful, so the fact that she barely had any suitors was mind boggling
Moesha could be a terrible friend too 💀. The episode where her and Niecey was fat shaming Kim and Kim’s boyfriend Michael had to confront both Moesha and Niecey about it.
That episode still pisses me off til this day 🙄 she didn’t like Kim imo she just kept her around to boost her ego.
They body Shamrd Niecy way more than they fat-shamed Kim.
@@everything.e.elliotttv2472 Neither was right. None of that should have been done.
@@TF-gf3fsthe other comment stood it’s ground… 🙃 smh
I thought I was the only one who found her character annoying. She was insufferable, that is her character.
Moesha was my FAVORITE show as a kid and rewatching on Netflix was like culture shock. She was HORRIBLEEEEEEEE. I could NOT even make it through the first season.
HONESTLY!!!
I love the show but never liked the character Moesha. I only watched for her friends.
Same
I said the saaaammeee😅I couldn't believe I never saw how bad of a friend she was..
Yesss! I tried watching with my daughter and she was like “why did you like this show again? I didn’t have an answer because she was a mess and not relatable at all!
She drove me up the wall like girl and the way she treated Kim and everyone around her 😩😩🥺🥺
I HATEDDDD the way she treated Kim, idk why Kim remained friends with her honestly
I love Brandy but lowkey I wouldn't be surprised if she treated Countess Vaughn the same way off camera. They didn't like each other /always beefing while filming Moesha.
@@thetruesoulofanaquarius9302I said the same thing!!! Brandy definitely took shots at her back in the day in her magazine interviews when they were feuding
@@leiiib if you look at the Rolanda talk show when the whole cast was on there from Moesha. Brandy was looking at Countess all up and down when she was interviewing.
@@thetruesoulofanaquarius9302 definitely giving nice nasty. I think she might’ve felt a way about sharing the spotlight with Countess
I don’t understand what was the problem with Kim’s weight. Moesha used to body shamed her, but Kim wasn’t all that big just a little bit thicker than everyone else.
Just so you guys know..... even Brandy couldn't stand playing 'moesha'.😂
Don't Believe her
Kim wasn't even fat she just was an little thick
Dee should have slapped Moesha a few times. I hated how Moesha treated Kim also. I would have been done with Niecy and Moesha when they were talking about her on that phone call.
Chile I said the same thing lol, Frank should have reprimanded Moesha for the way she spoke to her. That phone call should have been the end of their friendship
@@iconicallyiconic facts 💯 I use to feel so sorry for Dee. She truly loved Frank to be dealing with a brat like Moesha. Especially the episode when Moesha went off and embarrassed Dee about them replacing the old furniture. Mo definitely would have caught hands.👊🏿
@@thetruesoulofanaquarius9302 that was Moesha's deceased mother's furniture. It wasn't " old furniture ". You're sounding just as disrespectful as Dee for throwing it out.
But y’all mustve forgot it was revealed that they had all gossiped about each other at one point behind each others back. To me this was just real life typical teenage girl drama lol
Hakeem too. Moesha was always meddling in his business. She was very critical and judgemental when Hakeem was dating an older woman just to end up developing her older teacher later in the show
I’m glad Kim found her real friends in college. She could fully be herself with T and Stevie.
yup
Fax!
I really don't understand why she never got her face slapped!
Especially by Dee
Advocating violence..............Sheesh.
well damn i guess i shouldn’t rewatch moesha as an adult. i loved this show when i was in elementary and middle school. moesha didn't seem as insufferable when i was a kid. she is so mean to her friends.
I’m rewatching now as an adult and I can’t STAND HER lol
Yeah, I rewatched the whole series a few years ago when they first added it to Netflix. She was getting on my nerves HEAVY. Lmao.
I watched it as an adult, I couldn't stand Frank and Moesha , they both had narracist behaviors
It’s annoying but it’s very VERY realistic.
I loved that episode when Kim told Moesha off.
Watching as a adult girlll moesha was just a mess and ungrateful asf 😑 and I hated the way she treated Kim
When I rewatched the show as an adult it really made me dislike Moesha , she is so intolerable ughh and she definitely treated Dee messed up at times when Dee was just trying with her
I actually fault Frank for a lot of Moesha’s issues with Dee. I don’t think Moesha got any kind of grief counseling for her mother’s death and then allowing Moesha to step into her mother’s role by making the family’s meals for years and then being all, “no worries, we’ve got Dee now,” sounds like a recipe for resentment. Plus, the furniture issue, it would’ve been better to give Moesha the option of having her mom’s furniture l kept in storage so that she could have it when she got older as opposed to selling it without considering her feelings. They didn’t blend the family well.
I love Brandy but she had some issues on set with not only Countess but Ms. Sherly Lee Ralph as well which makes me believe she was similar to her character in a lot of ways. That episode with her embarrassing Hakeem in front of everyone for loaning him $20 showed the type of friend she was.
she gave strong mean girl energy back then. honestly i believe most women in industry are mean girls.
@@AJGaming-wh8rf She gave a little Gabrielle Union back in the day honestly that mean girl, controlling energy but hiding it through a smile
@@AJGaming-wh8rfMonica matched her energy 😂😂😂😂 slapped her before a performance
And don’t forget the beef that she had with Monica. I know it doesn’t have anything to do with the show, but I think Brandy has a little bit of a mean streak in her.
As long as the writers didn't reward her bad traits, then I'm cool with her character flaws. Makes her more realistic as a character
Moesha did change how she treated Dee once Dee's niece came to visit (Laura from family matters). They got close as she got older, especially when she was dating Aaron. I definitely didn't like her with Q and as I got older I realized she treated Kim real bad. She had a lot of moments when she was a terrible friend.
I feel like Brandy played her actual self as Moesha. She’s always seemed shady to me. You saw the way she was acting toward Monica at the verzuz battle. The only time I’ve seen her sweet was in Cinderella and that’s probably only because she knew Whitney would have snatched her up for acting up.
YES!!! Brandy is entitled because her parents put her on in being a star. She has that attitude with everything... Lying that she was married because she's "too good" to be a Baby Mother...
Well look at how Ray j acts birds of a feather tend to be raised in the same nest
Brandy was the one being gracious and singing along to Monica’s songs during Verzuz. Monica was the one acting standoffish.
@@juanautrey6228 it was Brandy’s snarky comments. And she’s been shady outside of that. Monica even spoke about it when she was a guest host on The Real. And she’s performed the boy is mine live before and changed up the lyrics to throw shade at Monica.
Yeah, now that you mention it every role that Brandy has done since Cinderella and before Cinderella, she’s basically been a mean girl. There has to be a reason that she plays that role so well, and it seems to be the only role she plays.
The best episode of the series was the prelude to the Parkers when Kim got to shine and Moesha was just the narrator.
I don’t know about now but every black high school had a problematic Moesha back in the day. And did I spot out Retta? 😍
I’m still pissed from when she declined that new car from her dad. I’ll never forget. Her character just got worse as the show progressed. She was not a good friend.
I will never understand what the guys saw on moesha, if Anything, I’d pick Kim over moesha any day of the week.
So would I. Even in real life I choose Countess over Brandy.
She's hot bro it's not rocket science.
I'd Pick Neicy
Moesha was a growing teenager and teens have emotions that make them emotional 🤔❤️🖤💚😘
Yeah, as teen dramas back in the 90s and 2000s were true reflections on depicting reality.
Unlike with teen dramas today such as Riverdale and The Summer I Turned Pretty that are obsessed with featuring unrealistic depictions of “lgbt” by unrealistically having every character be depicted as “lgbt.”
@@NES-ml3by So having people shown as being true to human nature, or “straight” as you refer it to, since if it wasn’t for your “straight” parents you wouldn’t have been born as a result, is somehow wrong or a bad thing?
Because it sounds like the 90s and 2000s, since I would know as I grew up in those times, were a time when people actually enjoyed life without being so obsessed with living a life of self hatred and false pride that comes with choosing to become “lgbt” that has become so prevalent in today’s times for whatever bizarre reason.
Since you must be really soft from the obsessive PC enforcement of these modern times if you can’t take any jokes or humor on gay people, because all kinds of people get made fun of onscreen in laughing with the audience and not at them, otherwise as a Christian, I’d be complaining like you anytime shows like the Simpsons made fun of Christianity or religion in general, since I actually know that they’re jokes that are not meant to be taken seriously.
@@johnnyd3158 that's not really fair to say bc you said every show today has to many gay characters and they said back then there was no gay characters. If you wanna disagree or be homophobic atleast be fair about it
@@usersareoverrated5652 It’s amazing how closed minded people like you want to accuse more open minded people like me of being fearful of “lgbt” by using negative human words like “homophobic,” whatever that means, when it’s you who’s the fearful one of people’s opinions that are the opposite of yours by being istophobic.
Since obviously it’s not about fear, it’s about common sense and perception, of which you’re lacking from the sounds of it
As I have no reason to be scared of sin and evil like “lgbt,” because I was taught the difference between the righteous of Christ, and the temptations of sin.
Since in God’s perfect world, all sin is nonexistent as we all live in peace and harmony, unlike humanity’s perfect world in which the line between good and sin is blurred.
@johnny
People don't 'choose' to become lgbt. LOL
Everyone knows this by now.
She definitely was a spoiled brat!
ill never forget and forgive her for outing Hakeem’s gay cousin 🤌🏾 & IN THAT ERA ????? IN HIGH SCHOOL ??? 🤦🏾♂️ and she really didn’t actually confirm it first, just made a huge assumption 🤦🏾♂️ in real life she would’ve been the start of sooo many people’s evil villain stories i swear 😂
She really acted like her daddy 🤷🏽♀️ tbh
As much as she disliked him at times she was exactly like him . Her dad was such a Narc 🤦🏽♀️
Agreed, her dad was awful
@@Kingofthenet2 especially on that episode when he called her a “slut” when she got that tattoo or the belly piercing I really don’t remember which one it was I want to say she got both done and wanted to wear a crop top to show it off and he called her slut for it , and told her to go change . Yet he had a whole secret son and affair he was hiding from the world (ray J ) .
Exactly
@@jaymitaylor9937 omg I remember that. It was totally uncalled for to call his own daughter this. She wasn’t even that underdressed. The crop top wasn’t as bad. That’s honestly what did it for me and made him the worst dad on TV history
Y'all can see her character flaws and immaturity but can't understand why her father was so strict with her because fathers aren't supposed to notice what kind of person their child is
At what point of this video did I mention Frank ? 👀 this video is a breakdown about MOESHA. The topic at hand was Moesha secondly I have no issue with Frank’s parenting yes at some points he may have been too hard on her, but for the most part I agree with him.
@@iconicallyiconic this message wasn't directed at you, just the fanbase of the show luvs 2 drag frank on her behalf. You're good
@@iconicallyiconic This is just from my personal viewing experience, but personally I saw it as Moesha growing into a problematic person as a direct result of Frank's crappy, misogynistic parenting.
@@iconicallyiconicfrank wasn’t that great of a father. I know in the black community he is revered as this “amazing black father that other dads should strive to be” but he definitely had a toxic attitude towards how teenage girls should behave and that’s not something that should be brushed off.
The way she always inserted herself in Hakeems business annoyed the hell out of me. she was a spoiled brat who couldn't handle things going her way ... now later on she does mature in her ways a bit but those first 3 seasons she was aggravating
3:55 the way Countess deLIVERED lol her funny ass delivery literally set Melinda up for a good laugh and she slam dunked . Team effort lol I absolutely love that part hahahaha can you tell
I would’ve taken the Saturn. It looked very nice coupe style. If the car was paid in full she could’ve kept it for the year saved up and traded the car in for the jeep and pay the difference. She could’ve went about way better
Yes!!!! Omg she was so entitled. What 16 year old you know wouldn’t take a brand new car 😭
I agree
I just watched Moesha for the first time about 2 years ago. I couldn't stand this girl sometimes. I kinda related to her and her relationship with Dee (I lost my mom about 15 years ago when I was 7), so i get why she wasnt really feeling it. Id KILL for a stepmom like Dee because mine is not it 👀💀. On top of that, i still cant get over how her dad bought her a reliable, paid off car and she turned it down cause she wasnt vibing with it. Her dad owened a whole dealership so he wasnt throwing her a piece of junk like wtf. Sis was late to her own graduation because her own car broke down. That could never be me😂
Bruh. Everytime I’ve binged Moesha, I get so annoyed. Spoiled, attitudinal, ignorant, problematic.
I will never forgive her for giving her Dad that Saturn back, cause sis wtf is wrong with you 😭
Then the way she treated Kim……!!!!!!!!!!! Whew Chile.
I love Brandy as an artist, but her character on Moesha……she would’ve caught some hands at the right high school!!
I mean Moesha in real life would probably get into a lot of physical altercations due to her being her, but I feel like Moesha can actually fight and wouldn't be the person you wanna fuck with.
Hey you forgot to mention how she treated miles her brother
Remember when she outed Hakeems Cousin
The writers definitely utilised facts about the characters. No wonder Countess got that botched termination. Being big and then pregnant was like a double homicide...
I love dee 2.
Can u do the bernie mac show bc i couldn't stand how Vanessa talk to her uncle smh..
I couldn’t stand Moesha…she was a terrible friend and horrible Stepdaughter…also the least interesting character on the show…
Another thing i never liked about moesha or a lot of 89's/2000's female characters is how big crazy they were. Like how many times has moesha put her and her friends in trouble because of her obsession with her little boyfriends.
Moesha’s love life was too annoying to watch. She actually got back with Q. Q!
Moesha pissed me off a lot on this show. That's why it's important to rewatch shows you loved as a kid once you're an adult. Moesha was terrible. It was messed up too when she clowned Hakeem for owing her money only to find out his mama couldn't pay the bills.
Yea the car episode really piss me off. I loved Modena but her attitude was a hot mess. She was a hater. Even toxic attitude at times
Yeah, I've been re-watching episodes of Moesha and she was a problem. But her character is realistic, just like her dad was problem as well. Moesha did have some cute boyfriends though! woo! lol
They allways came for Kim when she was minding her own business hyping herself up tgen they would bring her down😢
But the ⭐hair⭐ tho
That episode where she told everyone that guy was gay and forced him to come out all because he had a gay friend made me mad
She got on my nerves when she was on that show and walked like she had something stuck up her butt!
Kim was always attractive (to me).
I never realized this much. I always just felt her dad was unfair to her. But yeah she did have her flaws.
She acted like her father.
Oh you’ve got to do some more videos like this , this was goood lol you should do Blair next because she was so problematic, classist and a complete bully I would love a video on her 😊 great video
Waldorf?
I love Brandy and she's my birthday twin. But I always knew Mo was problematic bc Frank was problematic and expected the most from her. Kim was my fave and I followed her straight to The Parkers! 😅😊😊
I rewatched Moesha as an adult and came to the conclusion that I don’t like her 😆
Can you do Degrassi Eli and Claire ? I loved them 😩❤️their relationship was quite the rollercoaster .
Im all for eating healthy and losing weight but it hurt me when moesha made fun of her weight honestly
Dorian's character was even worse
Honestly! Moesha was rude. Spoke to her Dad anyhow and was about the mandem...
I hate when she outed Omar to her friends. She didn't think sometimes
Moesha was always so self righteous.
It's kinda worrying the amount of commenters advocating violence on this fictional character..........
I loved the show this is my comfort show… but I gotta admit there are certain episodes and seasons I can’t stand to watch. Mo was a terror.
I do believe Brandy was playing herself 😅 I heard it used to go down on the set.
but even brandy hated moesha lmao
Nah Mo’ steady acted like her shit didn’t stink. 😂💯
I love Moesha❤
Remember when Mo OUTED 🏳️🌈 SOMEONE?! NostalgiaTV covered it and it was a great debate
Yep, I remember that. Outing someone who’s not ready to be publicly out can have dangerous consequences. I felt for Hakeem’s cousin in that episode.
Laura Winslow was an awful person too
YESS I HATED HER
Moesha can be a bit much lol but i did love her. Lol..
Was waiting on a call out for when she pure outted Hakims cousin! That was awful!
Can you do degrassi character or Lincoln heights?
Hi 👋🏽 New Subscriber 🥰 really enjoying hour content , i love the memories it brimgs back and your perspective..please keep these videos coming?
As I got older watching this show, I hated it, I didnt like how they treated Kim that's for sure, and Moesha was so ungrateful , spoiled and a narracist... she was just like father . She was a terrible friend to Kim.
Love that episode with Laura
One episode that made me very hot was when she demanded Dee to apologize to her because Dee was trying to sell the couch she had an amazing step mom she had no reason to be so mean
Money episode was hot mess smh
Seasons 2 and 3 were really where the show started reaching its peak. The seasons after that were flat-out trash, especially with the introduction of Ray J's character.
All The Guys Were Running After Moesha But Neicey Was Always Fine
I'll Take Her Anyday.
Ik this off topic but i feel moeshia and q should had been end game
Im glad somebody said it😅
So your saying moesha is an antagonist
You are so right about how she was on the show?
I never really got into her. I mean Hannah Montana was better 😂
Hannah Montanna? Dat show is white AF, sis. It's for the caucazoids.
I agree 😂
Kim was my favourite character.
What she could've did is take that car and save for a jeep
Gurl I wanted to be Moesha Mitchell but watching this as an adult was hard
I hated how moesha treaded kim and always putting her down about her grades
I’m glad she spoke to D the way she did I loved Moesha she was never spoiled.
She was spoiled. She was given a new car and turned it down. She was allowed to speak to her stepmom like garbage too.
Huh 😅 she was extremely disrespectful.. which Frank would let her slide because her mom passed and it’s understandable. But it’s like look this is your fathers wife now. Dee was always humble never forced her to call her mom or anything. Dee stayed in her lane, until she thought it was appropriate to speak up. I’m glad Moesha changed her stance towards Dee later in the show. Frank irked me with his judgmental self.
NEVER?!! whatt
As an adult watching this show, I can not stand Moesha. She is spoiled and arrogant. I hate how she treats her friends.
I remember finding it difficult to like Moesha.
Moesha was the show to watch in its heyday nd even watching it then I really didn’t like Moesha watching it now she was too stuck up didn’t like what she did to Hakeem’s cousin nd his gf Tiffany it’s like whenever anyone has something better it’s like she gotta get that too
She essentially was a Virgo
She was Frank’s daughter after all
Love the intro of the song
#DisneyDiva ❤
Is she that bad
How can kim be fat she wasn't all that fat like be for real.