If you don't feel comfortable cutting a cartridge down, which I didn't, I used an old torpedo shaped lead fishing weight in my ATA to balance the gun to neutral. The torpedo shapes tend to fit nicely into the stock bolt channel that you have shown, a little can be shaved off quite easily to get the fitting and balance you wish. Interesting to see the Beretta system.
I have a Caesar Guerini game gun and was very front heavy, bit of time with the lathe in the farm workshop and I made a weight from an old steel round stock, balances directly on the hinge pin now, totally transformed that gun. Almost shoots as good as a beretta now 😊
Thanks for the info not much info on shotgun rebalancing on RUclips I put some wheel balancing weights in my browning 425 because it was barrel heavy feels much better so far but as you said it’s trail and error whatever feels good depending on your discipline.
I shoot old flintlock rifles and my jaeger is my favourite and one drawback for me is the heavy barrel a very forward heavy piece. But without that I cannot shoot a 54cal ball with triple the amount if powder safely. I am very used to this heavy gun and it will bring down wild pigs here in Australia. Gorgeous rifle. Blackpowder shotguns or fowler's are a heap of fun but if your new always have someone who has expierience to teach you about which powder and how much no matter the gun. Ps Springs please use proper spring vices if it's a leaf spring. I work on guns too and see a few damaged springs. Also use good screwdrivers to suit each screw. A short screwdriver is less likely to slip and mark wood or mar the screw head. You can get specialised turn screws some gunsmiths use.
@@ralstonraz That is something to try at the range. In fact it makes very little difference because of the position of the cartridges. You are adding weight over the central point. If you are super anal it might bother you but real world effect is not going to be that noticeable.
I recently tested that theory. Putting cartridges in makes no difference at all. Your hand position makes more difference, once you have mounted the gun. The balance point is only a guide, let's face it, you are then placing the gun into your shoulder and then holding it with two hands.
@@thatgearguy I agree with you. However I did see some subtle changes when with cartridges in the action. Actually the balance is not so much that I usually look at - it is how the gun feels in the non-shooting hand (in my case-left) via-a-vie the right. Slight changes at the front or back I feel make a difference to the swing my my case. I use the Beretta 694 with the TSK stock.
@@thatgearguy Tnx for the reply think they call them combat shotguns..........🙄🙄 not really an option... Benneli M4... mossberg 590 or some kind of pump action... but after some research if the mag is limited to 2 or 3........
@neilobusk you can have them on a firearms licence if you have a proper use for them - i.e. you compete in practical shotgun events. Or you can have a three shot on an SGC. They would need to have a minimum barrel length of 24". But they can all be had in such an iteration.
People make life hard for themselves paying gunsmiths to make lead stock weights. Just buy tungsten putty and mould it into the stock spacer as required.
Are you allowed to own a shotgun in the UK? I thought that your government had abolished all firearms. Your government has abolished all bladed weapons, right?
@@GregoryTheGr8ster We can own shotguns, rifles (up to .50BMG), Supressors.. And we can own bladed items. There are restrictions on where and when you can carry certain bladed items.
what a stupid idea with an unbalanced shotgun you will never know what you hit than every shot is exiting and a brand new adventure hitting what you aim at is for folks who don't crave excitement in their life
Front heavy guns suck overall - bit of an OT but remember I shot a few Russian shot guns and even .22lr Toz rifles which seemed to be basically a 7.62x39 rifle just chambered in .22lr - very barrel heavy. They basically were of no use - difficult to aim and the balance was just not there. While not in that league I would say there is a big difference in the balance in a M16A1 with the .625 thin barrel and the later iterations with the standard / heavy .750 - with a 20" barrel is just too heavy and forward leaning.
If you don't feel comfortable cutting a cartridge down, which I didn't, I used an old torpedo shaped lead fishing weight in my ATA to balance the gun to neutral. The torpedo shapes tend to fit nicely into the stock bolt channel that you have shown, a little can be shaved off quite easily to get the fitting and balance you wish. Interesting to see the Beretta system.
I have a Caesar Guerini game gun and was very front heavy, bit of time with the lathe in the farm workshop and I made a weight from an old steel round stock, balances directly on the hinge pin now, totally transformed that gun. Almost shoots as good as a beretta now 😊
@@deerkiller1210 I have a CG Invictus 3. I love it!
Thanks for the info not much info on shotgun rebalancing on RUclips I put some wheel balancing weights in my browning 425 because it was barrel heavy feels much better so far but as you said it’s trail and error whatever feels good depending on your discipline.
I shoot old flintlock rifles and my jaeger is my favourite and one drawback for me is the heavy barrel a very forward heavy piece.
But without that I cannot shoot a 54cal ball with triple the amount if powder safely.
I am very used to this heavy gun and it will bring down wild pigs here in Australia.
Gorgeous rifle.
Blackpowder shotguns or fowler's are a heap of fun but if your new always have someone who has expierience to teach you about which powder and how much no matter the gun.
Ps Springs please use proper spring vices if it's a leaf spring.
I work on guns too and see a few damaged springs. Also use good screwdrivers to suit each screw. A short screwdriver is less likely to slip and mark wood or mar the screw head.
You can get specialised turn screws some gunsmiths use.
What about the weight with the cartridges in the gun? If you want the ideal balance you need to check it with ammunition in the gun.
@@ralstonraz That is something to try at the range. In fact it makes very little difference because of the position of the cartridges. You are adding weight over the central point. If you are super anal it might bother you but real world effect is not going to be that noticeable.
I recently tested that theory. Putting cartridges in makes no difference at all. Your hand position makes more difference, once you have mounted the gun. The balance point is only a guide, let's face it, you are then placing the gun into your shoulder and then holding it with two hands.
@@thatgearguy I agree with you. However I did see some subtle changes when with cartridges in the action. Actually the balance is not so much that I usually look at - it is how the gun feels in the non-shooting hand (in my case-left) via-a-vie the right. Slight changes at the front or back I feel make a difference to the swing my my case. I use the Beretta 694 with the TSK stock.
And yes - I love your videos. Do keep them coming. 😊
Not the kind of shotgun I would love to have
but our uk law... as always says no...
really interesting vid....👍
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Shotgun laws are pretty open to most variants. What sort do you want?
@@thatgearguy Tnx for the reply
think they call them combat shotguns..........🙄🙄
not really an option... Benneli M4... mossberg 590
or some kind of pump action...
but after some research if the mag is limited to 2 or 3........
@neilobusk you can have them on a firearms licence if you have a proper use for them - i.e. you compete in practical shotgun events. Or you can have a three shot on an SGC. They would need to have a minimum barrel length of 24". But they can all be had in such an iteration.
People make life hard for themselves paying gunsmiths to make lead stock weights. Just buy tungsten putty and mould it into the stock spacer as required.
Are you allowed to own a shotgun in the UK? I thought that your government had abolished all firearms. Your government has abolished all bladed weapons, right?
@@GregoryTheGr8ster We can own shotguns, rifles (up to .50BMG), Supressors.. And we can own bladed items. There are restrictions on where and when you can carry certain bladed items.
what a stupid idea with an unbalanced shotgun you will never know what you hit than every shot is exiting and a brand new adventure hitting what you aim at is for folks who don't crave excitement in their life
@@apkidlafirm522 😅🤣😂
Front heavy guns suck overall - bit of an OT but remember I shot a few Russian shot guns and even .22lr Toz rifles which seemed to be basically a 7.62x39 rifle just chambered in .22lr - very barrel heavy. They basically were of no use - difficult to aim and the balance was just not there. While not in that league I would say there is a big difference in the balance in a M16A1 with the .625 thin barrel and the later iterations with the standard / heavy .750 - with a 20" barrel is just too heavy and forward leaning.
You are talking about a bunch of ancient Russian garbage. This is a video about high level comp shotguns. There is zero comparison.