This might sound strange but the fastest best saw I ever built was a shindiawa saw 20 years ago. It is still running today and seems like it can't be killed. It wasn't the most torque but had the highest rpm and cut faster than anything in its size. Thanks for the videos you seem to be doing what you love and it's cool seeing other guys out there doing what we want
What i personally love about your channel is that you are just a guy next door, who loves tinkering away on Chainsaws (and other stuff) for the pure pleasure of learning and getting satisfaction when it works. Humble is right, its not life and death however it is a passion that we all need to it. Keep on entertaining us with your passion, as it gives us satisfaction in knowing we can accomplish things in our life that also means something to ourselves. Cheers....
Thanks for the advice at the end for small channels on this space like mine. Really trying to stay humble and keep it fun, and i have to say its the guys commenting and the regular subscribers helping out that really make me want to keep making videos, ive been blown away with the positivity and attitude of the majority, which makes it easy to ignore the minority. Thanka for all you do TM!
When I got into the chainsaw hobby it was because I didn’t have the room I once had for cars and bikes. Then I enjoyed it once I realized the majority of the people seemed to be more positive towards each other than in the automotive world. It seems like as the hobby has grown it’s maybe taken on some more of the drama that you find in other circles. I enjoy and appreciate not finding that on this channel. I also appreciate the clean language vs the other channels that I just had to turn off. I’m a swearing truck driver but still don’t like listening to foul language on what I watch. Thanks for keeping it clean, friendly and fun.
Have really been enjoying your channel. From working on saws, to re shingling, to getting a new to you truck, to working said truck, to back to improving saws. It is just great stuff.
Your personality and your demeanor connected with me. With your explanation of not only what you were doing, but why, gave me the confidence to start porting saws and using a degree wheel to help me do it right. Thank you, Tinman.
from australia, keep up the great work Tinman, keep doing you bud love your channel! i find it relaxing, drama queens are all over they're best ignored .... 👍👍👍
8:07 wow, nice work TinMan. Just put a new piston, crank, cylinder into a Farmertec 660, wish I would have watched this first. The Algorithm unsubscribed me.
Hey Tinman, I found you via Buckn and you have inspired me to try port my own stuff and have fun. I’m an automotive transmission tech by trade and watching you work on the piston made me think about surface area. You opened up the windows for more airflow but you also increased the surface area of the intake stroke making it draw a little bit more air by volume. I think lol still trying to wrap my head around this stuff. Thank you sir for all you do.
Think of the bottom end as a bottle of water. I made the lower transfers larger which makes the bottle larger. I added intake timing which allows the bottle to be filled longer on each stroke. It's like turning on the tap longer to fill a larger bottle of water.
Agree with you people have gotten way to competitive and at times down right nasty with each other here on youtube lately, there is no one right way instead there is many way's to "skin a cat" sad it's turned that way. Most time's it's over who's saw can cut a block of wood .005 tenth's of a second faster then someone else's port work or any other simple task one's doing here on the tube, somehow it get's ugly I don't understand it. I have watched and enjoyed youtube for many year's and lately participate in it directly myself making content and yes it's the fun factor that keep's bringing me back also, it's very hard to explain. Most people don't understand why a person would open ourselves up to the scrutiny that comes with it, so glad to hear someone like yourself who understands and knows the pitfalls along with the good it can bring as well. Anyways keep doing what you do and take care Tinman.
Worked on the meteor piston I put in my 066 based on a bunch of your ideas. Never ran it beforehand, but it's a great saw and runs my alaskan mill like a champ. Thanks for the videos Tinman!
I've had good luck with smoothing the inside ridge to the outer edge of the piston, making nice ramps out to the windows. I've taken around 10 grams out of a piston with no vibration difference, at least anything noticeable. Definitely have noticed more torque and more "crack" on the throttle. Take it easy, buddy!
Another fantastic video- Thanks! Btw; my boys (13 & 14) just bought a 460 & 461 this weekend! They're good running saws at the moment.....but your info is so helpful with where we're headed-
Can we please get a view of it running and in action after your work to help everyone get an idea of what to expect when it comes to the use of the build? Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge and the way you take your time to show the work being done🙏
4:10 and the music kicks in and I'm like woah Tinman, you're blowing my mind! Good to hear some new things man 🤘 I sent you an email by the way.. but then again I'm sure about 1000 other people did too! Loving your work!
Nice video. I saw a comment asking if you are running one or two rings and you said probably one. Didn't know you could run one run on a two ring piston. Top or bottom on the ring? It is very enjoyable to watch your channel. I have tinkered with saws for a long time but not with the confidence that your content has provided. I don't even own a stihl (yet) and I still watch your videos on them. The information is almost always transferable to other brands. One day we will bump into each other and share some stories I'm sure. Until then appreciate all your efforts and knowledge. TC Mahalo Tinman 🤙🤙🤙
Run the top ring because your fuel mix SHOULD help take up any slack between the piston and cylinder and besides that you’ve “effectively” got blow by “engineered” into the running saw vs a 4stroke and it happening as a matter of wear or some negative consequence. That single ring will help the saw run “slightly” cooler due to reduced friction and the 2nd ring doesn’t really increase compression much on an engine that runs 10k rpm +. On a 4stroke it’s different. Most of the low rpm diesels have even gotten a 3 ring setup, maybe some even have a 4 (I don’t know that for a fact). So…RPM vs rings and 2stroke vs 4stroke. I just don’t think that the EPA has it figured out yet. 😮😊
Tinman, what’s the longevity factor of the motor when you factor in 1 vs 2 rings? I mean, which motor LASTS longer? I hope I made that question easy to understand. I think that 1ring is actually going to last longer than 2 because of the friction and heat difference, but I’m just theorizing. I also believe that the different manufacturers put 2 in as a well intended emission response but it actually makes it worse. Your thoughts please.
Hi Tinman! Greetings from MN. I did some work to an aftermarket cyl and piston just like in your video here. Same saw. I have .023 squish and 140 psi compression. The saw will idle and run but the acceleration is lacking. I tuned the carb like I usually do and she’s on the ragged edge of not wanting to idle. I’m using a good carb with no limit caps. New crank seals too. I am using a base gasket. Any ideas?? Thanks
I have noticed the forems(not naming names-but more than one of them) seem to have a more clique-ish atmosphere with "ramrods" and "yes men", more negativity, than the RUclipsrs..in fact, I have seen them bash RUclipsrs..seems to be a more toxic environment overall...Perhaps it is because it is easier to relate to people talking to them on a video, and perhaps easier to hide behind a keyboard and be rude without the interaction of actually seeing them and hearing their voice...
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This might sound strange but the fastest best saw I ever built was a shindiawa saw 20 years ago. It is still running today and seems like it can't be killed. It wasn't the most torque but had the highest rpm and cut faster than anything in its size. Thanks for the videos you seem to be doing what you love and it's cool seeing other guys out there doing what we want
The fact that you are as melo as you are is what makes you likable and relatable
Looking forward to see the 460 run
Right on Greg 👍🏻
What i personally love about your channel is that you are just a guy next door, who loves tinkering away on Chainsaws (and other stuff) for the pure pleasure of learning and getting satisfaction when it works. Humble is right, its not life and death however it is a passion that we all need to it. Keep on entertaining us with your passion, as it gives us satisfaction in knowing we can accomplish things in our life that also means something to ourselves. Cheers....
Couldn’t have said it better my friend 😊
Thanks for the advice at the end for small channels on this space like mine. Really trying to stay humble and keep it fun, and i have to say its the guys commenting and the regular subscribers helping out that really make me want to keep making videos, ive been blown away with the positivity and attitude of the majority, which makes it easy to ignore the minority. Thanka for all you do TM!
When I got into the chainsaw hobby it was because I didn’t have the room I once had for cars and bikes. Then I enjoyed it once I realized the majority of the people seemed to be more positive towards each other than in the automotive world. It seems like as the hobby has grown it’s maybe taken on some more of the drama that you find in other circles. I enjoy and appreciate not finding that on this channel. I also appreciate the clean language vs the other channels that I just had to turn off. I’m a swearing truck driver but still don’t like listening to foul language on what I watch. Thanks for keeping it clean, friendly and fun.
Have really been enjoying your channel. From working on saws, to re shingling, to getting a new to you truck, to working said truck, to back to improving saws. It is just great stuff.
Thanks I appreciate that.
I had one of my viewers track me down at a tractor show and we had a excellent conversation about all kinds of stuff, it was really nice!
Your personality and your demeanor connected with me. With your explanation of not only what you were doing, but why, gave me the confidence to start porting saws and using a degree wheel to help me do it right. Thank you, Tinman.
Being humble is always the right choice.❤
Ya because our everything comes from him.... through the spirit. I do nothing that didn't come from god
thank you Tinman, really appreciate what you do here.
Looking forward to seeing that 460 rip . Hey Tinman✊🏻
from australia, keep up the great work Tinman, keep doing you bud love your channel! i find it relaxing, drama queens are all over they're best ignored .... 👍👍👍
Fun show as always. I watched one of your saws (MS 461) on Buckins channel and it was impressive. Thanks!
I was so stoked to see buckin running that saw!
Lovin the 460 stuff
Love the new music! Sounds like Hendrix
8:07 wow, nice work TinMan. Just put a new piston, crank, cylinder into a Farmertec 660, wish I would have watched this first. The Algorithm unsubscribed me.
Hey Tinman, I found you via Buckn and you have inspired me to try port my own stuff and have fun. I’m an automotive transmission tech by trade and watching you work on the piston made me think about surface area. You opened up the windows for more airflow but you also increased the surface area of the intake stroke making it draw a little bit more air by volume. I think lol still trying to wrap my head around this stuff. Thank you sir for all you do.
He’s really a master at what he does!😊
Think of the bottom end as a bottle of water. I made the lower transfers larger which makes the bottle larger.
I added intake timing which allows the bottle to be filled longer on each stroke. It's like turning on the tap longer to fill a larger bottle of water.
I'm going to be doing it to the 460 I'm working on wish me luck and thanks this should help a lot
I love it you know it’s gonna rip
Agree with you people have gotten way to competitive and at times down right nasty with each other here on youtube lately, there is no one right way instead there is many way's to "skin a cat" sad it's turned that way. Most time's it's over who's saw can cut a block of wood .005 tenth's of a second faster then someone else's port work or any other simple task one's doing here on the tube, somehow it get's ugly I don't understand it. I have watched and enjoyed youtube for many year's and lately participate in it directly myself making content and yes it's the fun factor that keep's bringing me back also, it's very hard to explain. Most people don't understand why a person would open ourselves up to the scrutiny that comes with it, so glad to hear someone like yourself who understands and knows the pitfalls along with the good it can bring as well. Anyways keep doing what you do and take care Tinman.
Worked on the meteor piston I put in my 066 based on a bunch of your ideas. Never ran it beforehand, but it's a great saw and runs my alaskan mill like a champ. Thanks for the videos Tinman!
Great video as always Tinman💪😁
I don't get on the tube much, forgot how glorious that beard is, keep on rocking brother. 🤘
id like to see you go back to that echo that went wrong with a new cylinder one day and see what you come up with now.
I've had good luck with smoothing the inside ridge to the outer edge of the piston, making nice ramps out to the windows. I've taken around 10 grams out of a piston with no vibration difference, at least anything noticeable. Definitely have noticed more torque and more "crack" on the throttle. Take it easy, buddy!
That's been my experience also
Another fantastic video- Thanks!
Btw; my boys (13 & 14) just bought a 460 & 461 this weekend! They're good running saws at the moment.....but your info is so helpful with where we're headed-
Another great video I’m always learning 👍
Great information, thank you!
Nice video
Can we please get a view of it running and in action after your work to help everyone get an idea of what to expect when it comes to the use of the build? Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge and the way you take your time to show the work being done🙏
I run every saw I build for several tanks before I decide if it's good enough or not. This one will get the same treatment for sure. Can't wait.
4:10 and the music kicks in and I'm like woah Tinman, you're blowing my mind! Good to hear some new things man 🤘 I sent you an email by the way.. but then again I'm sure about 1000 other people did too! Loving your work!
That’s some kickin music isn’t it! Loved it and everything else that he said on here!
Nice video. I saw a comment asking if you are running one or two rings and you said probably one. Didn't know you could run one run on a two ring piston. Top or bottom on the ring?
It is very enjoyable to watch your channel. I have tinkered with saws for a long time but not with the confidence that your content has provided. I don't even own a stihl (yet) and I still watch your videos on them. The information is almost always transferable to other brands.
One day we will bump into each other and share some stories I'm sure. Until then appreciate all your efforts and knowledge. TC Mahalo Tinman 🤙🤙🤙
Run the top ring because your fuel mix SHOULD help take up any slack between the piston and cylinder and besides that you’ve “effectively” got blow by “engineered” into the running saw vs a 4stroke and it happening as a matter of wear or some negative consequence. That single ring will help the saw run “slightly” cooler due to reduced friction and the 2nd ring doesn’t really increase compression much on an engine that runs 10k rpm +. On a 4stroke it’s different. Most of the low rpm diesels have even gotten a 3 ring setup, maybe some even have a 4 (I don’t know that for a fact). So…RPM vs rings and 2stroke vs 4stroke. I just don’t think that the EPA has it figured out yet. 😮😊
You should heat treat the piston tinman!!
Stihl MotorSāge (chainsaw) 460
What happen to the old 77 husky the l65s had points
How's the Tinman
Are you running 1 or 2 rings in this saw?
Prolly 1 ring
Tinman, what’s the longevity factor of the motor when you factor in 1 vs 2 rings? I mean, which motor LASTS longer? I hope I made that question easy to understand. I think that 1ring is actually going to last longer than 2 because of the friction and heat difference, but I’m just theorizing. I also believe that the different manufacturers put 2 in as a well intended emission response but it actually makes it worse.
Your thoughts please.
It should last longer. Less heat and more importantly there's oil on both side of the ring.
That's my thoughts.
@@tinmanssaws that’s EXACTLY what I thought. THX 🙏
Hi Tinman! Greetings from MN. I did some work to an aftermarket cyl and piston just like in your video here. Same saw. I have .023 squish and 140 psi compression. The saw will idle and run but the acceleration is lacking. I tuned the carb like I usually do and she’s on the ragged edge of not wanting to idle. I’m using a good carb with no limit caps. New crank seals too. I am using a base gasket. Any ideas?? Thanks
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This hobby definitely does get taken way too seriously by some.
I have noticed the forems(not naming names-but more than one of them) seem to have a more clique-ish atmosphere with "ramrods" and "yes men", more negativity, than the RUclipsrs..in fact, I have seen them bash RUclipsrs..seems to be a more toxic environment overall...Perhaps it is because it is easier to relate to people talking to them on a video, and perhaps easier to hide behind a keyboard and be rude without the interaction of actually seeing them and hearing their voice...