Video shows passenger plane falling out of sky over São Paulo, Brazil
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- A passenger plane carrying 62 people crashed on the outskirts of São Paulo, according to Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, with dramatic footage from the scene showing the plane’s destroyed fuselage in flames on the ground. #CNN #news
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It took around 90 seconds for the plane to spin all the way the ground from 16,000 feet. Imagine how horrifying that was for the passengers!
Why would you imagine it
90 seconds is a long time if you know you are facing imminent death. I wonder if you just want it over, of if you are thinking of your last seconds of life.
@@stevencooke6451Both
Imagino 😢😢😢
@stevencooke6v451 verdade que Deus conforte os familiares 😢😢😢
On that plane there was a 5-year-old girl who was traveling with her father to spend Father's Day together (last Sunday was Father's Day here in Brazil), when the firefighters went to collect the bodies, the two were hugging each other. There was also a Venezuelan child who was with a puppy, all of them were found charred (including the dog itself), all the passengers were found charred. This accident was very tragic and much heavier than you guys imagine and the families are devastated, there were many people whose dreams were interrupted and they lost their lives. At this moment there is not much to ask questions or question because unfortunately we do not have all the answers, just pray for the families, friends and loved ones of the victims, Please pray for the families! 🙏 I wish everyone reading this a great day/night and good health always!
Woooow. I didn't know that they found them hugging each other, wow 😢😢😢😢
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🙏🙏🙏
Foram ao todo 62 vítimas mais um mascote, entre as vítimas estavam uma equipe de médicos e duas crianças pequenas. A menina que viajava com o pai, tinha apenas 3 anos; já o menino da família venezuelana, tinha 4 anos e sua cachorra tinha 6 meses.
@@mahos-c9f as you saw, so shall you reap. That's the universal law of life. We all must go one day.
I'm Brazilian, and we Brazilians are in mourning, everything that happened was a nightmare. Strength, my Brazil!🖤🇧🇷😔
Do you know what happened and the plane was falling like that? straight?
@@JeaNz0rI heard about ice in the airplane’s wings
You are in our prayers, Brazil.
@@ITSONLYMEWATCHING today is not gonna be a happy Father’s Day in Brazil ✈️💐
@@JeaNz0r There was ice on the wings of the plane, that day it was raining a lot and it was very cold, he crashed with ice on the wings.
Imagine having a plane crash in your backyard.. the haunting lifetime to come
I have to worry about that all the time cause I live near an airport. Some of the planes I see go wayyy too low and I’m scared that one day something like this happens!
@@sickoniascary
I watched a helicopter fall out of the sky and crash last year, narrowly missing our neighborhood. It will stay with me forever.
@@sickonia sell that POS and move away, what the hell are you waiting for, act NOW!
Especially if you live in Albuquerque.
I watched the interview of the young man who was told along with 9 other people that they could not board that flight. He said he kept insisting that they let him on the plane and they refused him and 9 others. He told the media after finding out about the crash "my legs are shaking right now and l thank God they didn't let me on that plane." I have been thinking about this young man all day. Praying for the families. ✝️✝️✝️
Proof or it didn't happen
@@Flipflopskipskopit did, the interview happened live here in Brazil minutes (maybe a hour) after the crash
@Flipflopskipskop in fact, the reason they lost the flight was because they were waiting at the wrong gate
@@RamonMachadoChannel woah
@@Flipflopskipskop Im retty sure the interview of that man is somewhere here on RUclips.
I'm in Canada, and seen that exact interview (where the guy talked about wanting on the plane because he and others were at the wrong gate) it was televised on the news here.
Crazy to think tho, that some say this might have been intentional.
Horrible that's so sad 😢 It feels like a miracle nobody on the ground got injured, no house got burned down.
Really 😮
62 passengers is not a small plane
It is by airline standards.
It's not a large one either. Horrible.
It's a medium sized plane and is the biggest turboprop I believe.
The plane may have been overloaded for all I know
@@reason6835 not even by airline standards. A 50,000 lbs plane is not a small plane.
We send Our condolences from Tanzania 🇹🇿
I'm brazilian. Thank you🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so much
Obrigado! 🇧🇷🖤🇹🇿
🎉 sending prayers 🙏🏾 ✨🕊️🧬
Tebogo 😊
I'm Brazilian, the airline is from my hometown in Brazil, the whole country is devastated 😢😢😢💔💔
Update: Preliminary analysis indicates ice formation on the wings, pilots who flew the same route before and after accident, recorded a lot of ice formation.
Sending my prayers. 😢
Rest in peace 😞
what plane model was it?
@@anonymous-hz2un Please stop lowering everyone’s IQ with your comments.
@@wasatchm ATR 72.
The moment that all passengers know they will die and not see their families again 💔
Or see the light of day again.
Oh deep.
In this case, yes they had no chance at all. Sometimes pilots are able to effect a crash landing with some degree of control which gives passengers a chance to survive. With a plane just dropping down in a flat spin, no chance sadly.
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That's the year world war one happened.
From 🇰🇪 prayers to the people of Brazil 🇧🇷
I pray everyone went without pain. All my prayers to the loved ones aboard the aircraft and the people of Brazil. My heart goes out to you all.
They felt terror until they hit the ground. 💔
@@janicesullivan8942The impact probably instantly killed them… it may look like the plane is falling slow but at that speed the blunt force trauma would’ve been an instant death
Wow ,poor people 🙄 😢
@@Fat12219 you must be the life of the party...
No, you are, they are showing grief, you are correcting other people instead, RIP@colinlarson9656
The manic repeating of that one clip from a doorway that's 3 seconds long is making my head spin!
It made me seasick. What a useless video. I'm still trying to figure out what was so 'disturbing' about the video also.
@@telebubba5527there’s other video that’s much better
Speedbrakes, maybe.
@@telebubba5527 at the very end it showed footage of me and your mom.
So true. Filling space for their news agenda.
It’s truly an unimaginable tragedy. To imagine what people were thinking in just those seconds of the decline is heartbreaking
"This is, again, disturbing video, LET'S WATCH"
Come on man 😅😂😂
Definitely the mantra of media for advertising dollars.
@@Aaton-if2ktthe story isn't funny but @1:40 in I couldn't help but lol..
Kamala Harris probably caused this. Vote TRUMP!!!! 2024!!! 🎉🎉 #JOHNNYX100
Then it blows into smithereens (always wanted to use that word, score) and she says "how are you analyzing that Mary?" ...
God I feel like the black box audio will be… brutal. I’ve watched tons of videos in air crash investigations and… the pilots fighting to the bitter end (like Alaska 261 where they flipped the plane to try to deal with broken rear stabilizer) always gets me.
i heard something while watcing the documentary...when i heard a baby cry my heart absolutly broke...even though....im a literall male,and i know that that wasnt a actuall baby crying on the actuall flight....just broke my heart,didnt cry...but still.
Yes, at that moment when the pilots know there is no way to avoid the crash. They are dying, and the people whose lives they protect are dying too.
Yes, the black box was already analyzed and it was scary. The transcript of the black box audio showed that, upon realizing that the plane was losing lift, the copilot asked what was happening. He said it was necessary to "power up" - an attempt to stabilize the aircraft and prevent it from crashing. But this, unfortunately, was not possible. About a minute passed between the realization of the loss of altitude and the plane hitting the ground. During this time, according to investigators, the audio recorded that the crew tried to react. The recording ends with screams and the crash of the aircraft hitting the ground.
_It's time to equip planes with emergency crash devices, like parachutes or capsules, to protect passengers in a last-minute effort to save themselves. Instead of leaving passengers with no hope and only prayers in a dire situation, the industry, with its billions of dollars, should invest in a backup plan for safety. This is something that needs to be addressed seriously._
Simply not feasible with current technology.
@@peteconrad2077 ru f kidding me ukraine engineers created safety parachutes for the whole plane that deploys in case of an emergency i don't know why the industry implements it
What I'm saying, invest in safety instead of useless entertainment
@@koiiyhonze9148 you have to incest in both it eventually you don’t have an airline.
@Comedy-ri1fn it was never actually tested. It was only on paper and other computer animation thing. Just finish your cereal kid.
I cannot imagine the terror going through those poor people's minds as they literally fall out of the sky in those last few moments
Must've been terrifying. Absolute horror 😢 I feel so bad for them..
how about the Titanic?
@ryeeye With a ship going down, you have a chance. With an aircraft going dow in the way this one did, you have no chance at all.
@@PAWLIE68 eejit...then the terror of waiting to die is longer. that is what the comment is about.
Absolutely terrifying that's what everyone is scared of going on a flight and that must have been a very long drop.... Poor souls. I guess heavy turbulences gives you a near death experience 😢
Damm this cameraman.
And then.... concrete.
Same
bro people died out there that is not funny >:(
Theres a special place in Hell for these types.
@DarkZilla2000 here is a song for you to listen to....
Tool: Vicarious
Prayers for families of those lost in Brazil
You mean, "commenting a sentence of ludicrous insanity in the RUclips comments section"
@@gd3551be nice omg
Not understanding, please explain.@@gd3551
amem irmao
I'm Brazilian and this accident was terrible, my condolences to the victims
Im sorry for all the families affected on this tragic accident.
Prayers for all the people on board and all the people on the ground
I was in a small plane going to Bhadra in Mexico. We hit an air pocket when going over the mountains. The plane dropped suddenly and even though we were wearing seat belts, our heads hit the roof of the plane. I thought at the time, bend over and kiss your ass goodbye, but we survived. Pilot said we dropped 500 feet. It was a miracle we were high enough and the pilot could recover flight.
TOO many advertisements RUclips..I'm done with you.
Install an ad-blocker and forget any sort of advertisement.
I didn't have one advertisement at all and I don't have an ad blocker....
Sometimes there’s like 3 or 4 ads in a row 😅 I guess they want to force us to get the pay subscription
Watch it in a browser with an ad blocker
It's CNN, they set the ads. Just stop watching this crap
I'm an aviation wrier (mostly retired) with almost 40 years of experience, and covered airline diasters back when they were more frequent.
I'm gobsmacked by this. I can't imagine how they would stall the a/c and depart in that fashion. Airplanes just don't fall out of the sky, flat, like that. At least, almost never There is no forward motion at all. Maybe it's the angle, but I don't think so.
Please update us if you find out more. My son and daughter in law live in Brazil and will be flying soon.
This is deeply saddening. My heart goes out to all those who have been affected by this tragedy🤍
I can only imagine the horrific feelings of those passengers as they realised what was going to happen.. 😢.
Flat spin and airplanes are a bad combo. Condolences to those involved. Awful
Not sure but it could be a deep stall since the atr-72 it a t-tail aircraft.
Pretty sure any kind of spin and airplanes are a bad combo.
We currently have a strong cold air mass over São Paulo State. Many pilots are suspecting of ice formation on the wings that caused the airplane to stall.
No modern airliner is recoverable from any spin. The centre of gravity of the aircraft is too far aft DELIBERATELY for recovery. Aft centre of gravity loading is more aerodynamically efficient.
@@alexedelweiss3267 Thats makes since, im a medium, and for the last 3 days the spirits were talking about and airplane was gonna crash from ice on the wing. Guessing from what u said that this is what they were warning about.(p.s. dont really care who believes in psychic/medium, spirits or not.)
It landed in between 2 homes. Further on ground disaster averted.
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Sounds like the pilot did their best with what they could and with what they had 😟
@shad0wCh8ser probably, what I'm theorizing is this: Captain for some reason medical or otherwise became unresponsive very close to decent and landing. Co-captain was new and did not have the experience to quickly remedy the situation. This resulted in him trying to mitigate ghe crash in the final moments. Just speculation tho😢
@@ljeans531how do you know the captain was the pilot flying? Being the captain doesn’t mean you are the one who is at the controls. It just means that you are in charge. It’s not like the captain flys the plane and the first officer just tags along In case the captain has a stroke or something. They both fly fairly equally. One pilot flys the plane while the other talks to ATC, monitors the instruments/systems, and does various calculations. They switch between these two rolls around 50/50. Also it’s a little unfair to automatically assume it was the first officers fault. It’s not like the first officer isn’t a fully fledged pilot. It’s not unheard of for the first officer to have even more flying experience, overall, than the captain. The Captain is just usually the one who has the most experience on that particular model of aircraft.
@@shad0wCh8ser from the images, I'd say the pilot had no control of the aircraft at all!
For non pilots here: A stall is NOT about the aircraft's engines. An aerodynamic stall occurs when a wing(s) stops generating lift. Lift is generated by differential air pressure above and below the wing surfaces. A stall can occur for many reasons but by definition all stalls involve a disruption of the laminar airflow over the wing. A stall can occur on one wing or both wings simultaneously. A stall can occur at any any airspeed any bank angle. In general operating conditions (envelope) an aircraft has a specified stall (V) speed: V stall =
All pilots practice stall/spins until they are blue in the face. I know I did.
It's been a while since I've flown but happy to have comments adding specifics or please correct me if I remember this wrong.
Great explanation! Although I would argue that stalls don't always involve a disruption of laminar airflow. Even laminar flow wings only have laminar flow for 30-60% of the wing and as a byproduct, have increased stall speeds. We at times induce turbulent airflow intentionally to delay that airflow separation (i.e. vortex generators) to prevent flow reversal where that high pressure on the bottom of the wing attempts to reverse to seek that low pressure on top (called adverse pressure gradient).
@@Tig442 Thank you so much! Interesting point about inducing turbulent airflow. This I did not know, or, more likely, forgot!
The only other method I'm aware of is the use of spoilers to intentionally disrupt airflow to increase rate of decent. I used these extensively flying high performance gliders.
Lesson....stay out of airplanes....control can be lost and pilots can do nothing
@@tamjeanell How about cars and trains...busses? Ships?
Finally a good comment
Heavenly Father please comfort the families of those lost and the people of Brazil. In Jesus name Amen.
The heavenly father didn't care enough to protect these people and prevent the crash. or he doesn't exist at all. Either way, your prayers are meaningless nonsense.
Amen 🙏
Please stop. This is insanity. You are commenting prayers in the RUclips comments section. You must seek help.
A lot of mad, miserable atheists in these comments who must hate their life.
“I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live as if there isn't and to die to find out that there is.”
AMEN 🙏🙏 condolences to the family and friends of there Love Ones , Soo Very Sorry this has happened, My ♥️ goes out to All Involved, who was in the plane nd on the ground RIP AMEN, from small town from state of Princeton, Maine 😢😢😢😢
RIP for all victims ❤❤❤❤❤!
They were in a hold with 15 degrees of flap. The aircraft is issued a warning not to hold in ice conditions with flap extended due to ice build up. Ice formed on the place where flaps meet the wing where there is no icing protection. Stalled and got a flat spin.
Those poor people and their families.
Flat spin suggests asymmetric wing loading. One of the wings suffered a partial stall and the other did not, and that pulled the plane into a flat spin. They were trying to pitch the props to get more thrust - you could hear that in the video - but it was to no avail, they were just too low. Ice *could* very well be a cause - ice will quickly change the flight envelope of whatever surface it is contaminating, and all of a sudden, the pilots flying that plane find themselves test pilots, with very little time to react.
That being said a LOT of things can cause that kind of wingstall/spin. Single engine failure, rudder hardover, hydraulic malfunction creating asymmetric flap deployment, and many of these accidents are caused by multiple factors. Whatever the cause, it won't help those 62 souls. 😞RIP to them.
An extreme percentage of the time, everything goes well in flight. Unfortunately this wasn’t the case on this day for those souls. I feel horrible for them, their families and loved ones.
It actually the first time it happened in 30 years for this airline, not for brazil of course as their was one in the region from 2017 but it wasnt with this airline.
edit: first time any of their planes crashed in 30 years thats how good and reputable this airline is.
@@Catalyna Definitely a good track record for them. Whether pilot error or something else, the unthinkable occurred.
Really!!.. CNN small plane with 62 people 😒 Small is a cessna with couple people on board.
Wrong. By plane standards, 62 people on a 72 seater airliner is a small plane. CNN got it right.
An absolute nightmare. Those poor people 😔🙏🏾
Que Tragédia meus sentimentos as famílias Força Brasil 🇧🇷😢
Força Brasil?
@@mercadofinanceiroaviacaoSim força Brasil. Porque a pergunta? Força para suportar essa tragédia.
@@conexaolondresbrasil Força Brasil?
I'm Brazilian from Brazil, very sad. Thank you to Governors Tarcísio (São Paulo), the group of firefighters, Brazilian troops, engineering, aeronautical troops came to help and debates, Governor Tarcísio could be helping the whole family and politics was helping the whole family to enter the hospital when a body arrives and they are dying . the news live today for 3 days. every family has a lot of crying and a lot of pain. Rest in peace 62 Brazilians.
Independentemente de ser da nossa família ou não, isso é doloroso demais. Esses vídeos são assustadores😢😢😢.
Our sincere condolences to the people of Brazil and families of those that passed tragically in this accident.. May God give you comfort, from 🇧🇼 Botswana 🙏
My heart goes out to the families of the 62 passenger and crew members who died in this terrible plane crash
This ATR faced temperatures of -40 degrees Celsius, an extremely unusual fact in the region, I live 11 km from the crash site, it was a cold afternoon with light rain, pilots and aircraft were not prepared for this extreme weather event. God comfort the families
It looks like there might have been a problem with the aircraft?
Ice formation on one of the wings apparently
It stopped flying, a stall - perhaps after an icing problem.
@@fortyseven7789yes
Icing problem is common for ATR planes
@@sunnyfon9065the Company sucks, I swear I'd never go on a ATR plane. Only Airbus or Boeing
The woman (Mary) knew her stuff!! That was impressive 🙂
So tragic. Sympathy to family and friends of all those lost in this incident.
Prayers for Brazil and the families of the victims. So sad.
I never imagined a plane could just drop straight down like that - I always assumed it would at least glide down to give you some chance if you found a smooth enough area to land on!!!
not during a stall
In a spin like the video shows there is no longer any control possible by the pilots. There isn't air moving over the wing in a way that permits the aircraft to 'fly' so the aircraft essentially falls like a brick.
Stalls are not uncommon.
I am reading your replies but part of me keeps thinking things were never like this before and we’re going into worse and worse timelines so this is normal now I guess
It's called a flat spin! Same thing happened to Maverick and Goose in Top Gun! Goose didn't make it!
Sending heartfelt sympathy to all the families also the people who witnessed the plane coming down
According to the Universal Safety Oversight Audit Program Brazil has one of the best levels of air safety in the world. Before today, it had been 17 years since the last accident in Brazilian commercial aviation.
This is wrong. Brazil is number 3 on the list of countries with most plane crashes !
@@tomtom8786source?
You need to recheck your statistics!!! Wasn't it a few years back their whole hockey team went down in a plane?
Time to call an armchair internet expert in to settle this matter!
@@RaviSharma-jd8gn. It was in Colombia! It was a Brazilian football team on a Bolivian airline flight! The last accident of a Brazilian commercial plane was in 2007 with an Airbus A320 that failed to brake on the runway at Congonhas airport. in 2006, a Boeing 737 was hit by a small jet piloted by 2 Americans completely outside of safety standards!
Condolences.. Stay prayed up ppl..
Rip to everyone 😪 on the plane
I havent flown in over 10 years and dont intend to. Between incompetent pilots, faulty planes, infuriating airport/tsa workers, and obnoxious fellow passengers, id much rather drive
Yep, all the legacy pilots quit during covid and now here we are with the B team.
That's awful. So sad. My heart goes out to their families.
My prayers and condolences for all those aboard and their families🙏🏻❤One of the most terrifying ways to go.
Here in Brazil, we are approaching Father's Day. And many of the people who died were on their way to visit their relatives. It is very sad to know that they were unable to see them one last time.😢
Tragic for the Families and the Country We send our deepest sympathies 🙏
why did you show that 3-second clip 12 times in a row?????
You counted?
Coz they are not Americans so their privacy doesn't matter
To boost their ratings!
Cuz CNN is annoying like that
@@BJtheBassist nah... just guessed because it kept repeating
Well how disturbing can a plane falling straight down to the ground be?
Final Destination comes to mind !!!!
Flight radar shows the plane suddenly fell 17000 feet. in a flat spin thats enough altitude to apply full rudder in opposite direction, wait till it stops spinning (if it does), then forward pressure to break the stall (if that works) then recovers without breaking the wings off. The fact they could not achieve that leads me to believe they had a icing problem and simply could not and would not regain control. Icing has been a known issue on ATR-72s. This could be completely opposite of what actually happened but it's a possible theory.
True. ATR’s are notorious for accumulating ice; though they do have de-icing equipment. Weather reports there don’t suggest icing conditions but it’s possible for pockets of icing conditions at 17,000 feet. Regardless, I feel that weather was certainly a factor, probably combined with pilot error.
@@reason6835 I would also guess pilot error played a role considering in the vast majority of plane crashes that is the case. But a flat spin like this is very unusual would you also agree? I guess the question is how does a plane on final at 17k suddenly end up in an almost unwinnable situation such as they found themself in? On /aviation there are better videos of the crash. Seems they fell the whole 17k in a spin.
@@Ryan-pg7uo: Yes, flat spins are extremely rare. My first guess was ice on the wing but I didn’t see any icing conditions in that area today. ATR’s have de-iceing equipment so even if they hit a rogue patch of icing at 17,000 they should have been able to deal with it.
Also, why do you say they were on final? 17,000 feet is pretty high for an initial approach fix. Was the airport at high elevation?
@@reason6835 True but they have had problems with their anti icing systems even the revised ones after a previous crash ATR had. But like you said there wasnt icing conditions but i wouldnt 100% rule out that possibility. Also my mistake, they were not on final and i dont believe they crashed anywhere near the airport actually. Apologies. Although i just read this and ill quote it "Severe ice formation" warned pilot who flew in the region. An A320 pilot who flew to Guarulhos this Friday even reported ice formation on the side window of the cabin to air traffic control". A news outlet is quoting audio from pilots in the region saying their is a lot of ice in the clouds. They go on to say several parts of the country have been hit with "a polar mass with low temperatures".
Once they got into the flat spin they were f**ked.
It’s winter there. A warning for icing at his altitude 17,000.
They suddenly lost power and went down from 16000 ft.
Most likely ice.
Most aviation experts would probably agree that this is the equivalent of putting a Can of Bud in the freezer and then forgetting about it.
That's a helluva hot water system on that roof. Need a RUclips video for that.
Noticed that.
I call you lizards but I would be insulting reptiles!
@@paulgeorge7699are these the people that keep stalking me every time I leave to the store??.😡no wonder fishy stuffs been happening around here things aren't the same as they used to be im calling ppl like this plague and moving on with life
In the area where the ATR-72 crashed there is an active warning for severe icing between 12000 feet and 21000 feet. The aircraft was flying at 17000 feet just before the crash . . .
Wtf why was the airplane spinning? This is so weird. Any pilot here can explain what happened and why they lost control?
Maybe something broke off
I’m a pilot. It’s a type of stall called a flat spin. For whatever reason (probably ice) the plane lost lift due to not having enough airflow over the wings. Once the flat spin starts, it’s nearly impossible to recover from because none of the flight control surfaces have any effect. Normally you would nose down to recover from a stall but that requires the elevator to have airflow moving it. In a flat spin the air is coming up from the bottom of the aircraft, so the elevator, rudder and ailerons have no effect on the attitude of the aircraft.
On aprouch you ask yorself" Am i low,amI slow" he probably did't have proper speed.
Okay, this will help you understand what is going on and why it was almost certainly unrecoverable: First you need to understand about stalls...
In a stall (where you drop altitude but do not spin around as you descend), it occurs because both wings lose lift at more or less the same rate and at the same time - typically from either going too slow, or pitching up steeply to the point where the airflow is no longer smoothly going over the wing - which is what a stalled wing is. So when both wings stall, the nose drops and you'll start losing altitude, but since both wings are stalled, you are not out of balance laterally, so you don't commence spinning. Thus in a stall you can simply push the stick forward to lower the angle of attack of the wings, then you will pick up speed to get the aeroplane flying again and you simply ease out of the dive by pulling the stick back gently to recover back to level flight. A spin however, is more complex...
In a spin, what happens, is one wing stalls before the other (excessive yaw, ice on one wing but not the other, or strong asymmetric wind shear can all cause this to occur), so the wing which has lost flying speed first drops, but the other wing keeps generating lift and flying for a little bit longer. This makes the aeroplane start to auto-rotate as one wing flies and the other one doesn't, i.e. you roll toward the dropping stalled wing and commence turning as you do so. That's how an aeroplane enters a spin, and it'll usually stay in that spin unless you actively do something about it.
If you've ever seen a sycamore seed falling and spinning as it does so, you get the idea; basically a falling sycamore seed is one wing flying and autorotating around the bulky mass of the seed. That's what that ATR was doing; the wing on the outside of the rotating movement was generating some lift, the other one, being that it was on the inside of the turn and therefore going slower, wasn't generating much lift.
To recover an aeroplane from a spin, first you have to stop the autorotation, and you do that by pushing your foot down on the rudder pedal in the opposite direction to the rotation. When that rotation stops, you centre the rudder again, then you will be in a stall with both wings having lost lift, so the next thing you do is push the stick forward to lower the angle of attack and get airflow over the wings to generate lift again, and when you've got that, then you can ease the stick back to come out of the descent. However...
The problem here with this aeroplane in the video, is that it is in a very flat spin with not very much forward speed, and this means the rudder is ineffective in stopping the autorotation in the same way that the rudder on a boat does nothing when there is no forward movement. There is also the possibility that the wings and the disturbed air coming off them, is either too turbulent to allow good rudder effectiveness, or what is more likely, is that the wings and fuselage are basically blocking the airflow to the rudder and elevators because of the flattish angle it is coming down at (this is a known problem with aeroplane types where the elevator is situated high up on the tailplane). With little to no useable airflow going past the rudder and elevators on the tail assembly, there is no chance for any rudder input to stop the autorotation, nor for the elevators to push the nose down, which are the two things you need to do to come out of a spin. Another problem is the sheer mass of the engines, which once you are spinning like that, being two big metal lumps way out on the wings, tend to give the spinning motion a lot of momentum, which can be difficult to overcome even if you do have sufficient airflow over the tail control surfaces.
Another issue, and one the airlines probably prefer you did not know about, is that pilots these days are not always taught how to do spin recoveries and are typically 'autopilot jockeys' with nowhere near the hands-on 'stick and rudder skills' pilots had years ago before there were computers which could do all the work for them; this is fine most of the time when nothing is going wrong, but it's not good when things go tits up. Quite often, pilots these days are taught 'spin avoidance' in the hopes that they'll never have to recover from one, because the optimistic hope is they'll never get into one in the first place, which is fine until you actually do end up in a spin (as this ATR did), because if you've never been taught how to get out of one and practiced it a few times (which is good fun actually), then you are basically screwed. It's not as intuitive a recovery process as one might imagine; if you don't know to use the rudder to stop the autorotation and not the ailerons (using the ailerons would the worst thing you could do), but it is what you might be tempted to do if you didn't know any better because from the cockpit, a spin looks a lot like a roll, where you would use the ailerons to stop that. Not saying these pilots didn't know how to do a spin recovery, but you might be surprised how many pilots these days have never done a spin recovery, since it isn't a mandatory part of the PPL curriculum any longer, as it was back when I learned to fly, where you literally had to do quite a few of them, some from pretty low altitude too! ATPL training rarely has people practicing spins, not even in the simulators.
Having said all that, even if this crew did know how to do a spin recovery, they might just simply have been screwed, because some really bad flat spins are literally unrecoverable, and even when they are recoverable, you do need quite a lot of height (and time) to pull it off, and that thing was dropping at 11,000 feet per minute, which is not something an airliner would ever normally do. And of course if there was ice on the wings or the tailplane, that would have prevented them from making a recovery as well, and unfortunately this is quite likely to have been the case. Turboprop airliners such as the ATR typically fly at 17-20,000 feet, often in clouds, and that's where icing conditions frequently occur. Not only that, the ATR 72 only has de-icing boots on the leading edge of the wings; if ice forms behind those, there isn't much they can do about it other than descend out of the icing conditions to warmer air and hope it melts or breaks off. The ATR 72 is a good aeroplane (even if it is a noisy bastard) but like all regional turboprops, it has to be flown in a way which gives due respect to the weather conditions.
@@ChockHolocaustWell everyone I at least can explain a flat spin today! Ty
So sad! God Bless those 62 souls!
you can see from the wreckage it dropped vertically, no forward speed at all.
Kinda reminds me of a cargo plane nosediving after cargo shifted.
Yeah. You can also see that when it is literally dropping vertically.
Almost as if the engines were feathered, propellers
i'm still waiting for the "very disturbing" part.
They have to prepare people and warn them over nothing, people are so sensitive and weak.
@@EricaChavira-on4oz insensitive weirdo. You should've been on it.
Hold your breath while u wait
@@ddneq677 keep crying
Such softies...and I blame the media and the internet.
WTF is the cameraman doing? "Is that plane crashing, or...? Oh, look! A quarter!"
"Caindo o avião"
It's not a cameraman it's a regular person that hears a noise and gets their phone quickly
Play close attention to the list of passengers in that airplane
I've never seen a passenger plane spin this way. So very sad.😔
It happens after a stall. Maybe icing.
@@SpamMouse How very sad. My heart goes out to those poor victims and their families.❤
Same crash, same air craft, 72 casualties… Last year in Nepal. Yeti airlines.
You know it’s going to be good when it starts with a warning.
My theory is that one wing quite literally froze. With the way Brazil is cold the wing could've easily froze, and with that pilot with 5+ yrs experience, I think he wanted to descend so he didn't freeze but I think ATC didn't give him authorization to.
That’s so scary. RIP those souls. Devastating.
RIP 🙏 sweet people. So very sorry for everyone’s Loss 🙏. 🇧🇷
Não sinta infelizmente faz parte da vida ,um dia vc também irá. Tudo é a vontade de Deus
Could not see much. Can you show it on a closeup.
Are you heartless? A plane crashed, everyone on board died, and you are worried about not seeing anything? You care more about seeing a plane crash and everyone on board dying? Where is your sympathy? Where is your heart? Grow up and get lost!
So sorry 😢for the loss of your friend and family member
Prayers for the families.
Plane dropped like waterfall as though the engine suddenly stopped similar to water getting into fuel tank like gasoline cars.
She can tell you about the plane crash with a gleam in her eye.
Early analysis from aviation community, including other ATR72 pilots, believe either pilots like did not executed stall recovery procedures correctly or stall recovery procedures were ineffective due to icing at its cruise altitude of 16000.
Could you imagine 64 people just suddenly dying in your backyard? That’s crazy. I wonder what those homeowners are going to make of that spot now
So sad. I pray 🙏 for those on board and their families.
I saw the same thing in the documentary Top Gun
Claramente el avión ATR 72 cae fuera de control, sin velocidad horizontal.
Lo más probable es una entrada en pérdida seguida de una barrena por acumulación de hielo sobre las alas (Considerando la meteorología y la tendencia a acumular hielo de esta aeronave).
Lamentable que no se haya logrado recuperar de la pérdida siendo que se dió a 17000 pies ( aprox 5182 metros). Dada la altitud de inicio de la caída, descarto Windshear..
No hay sobrevivientes. Lamentable!
what exactly was the disturbing part?
Well there was a plane full of ppl falling from the sky...sorry it wasnt entertaining enough for you.
GFYS and your woke liberal imagination There was nothing disturbing about watching that short clip 🖕🏼
scary seeing the cockpit windows still intact..
My condolences..
NOT very disturbing .... MORE .Tragic.. for ALL those people on board......
Can hardly see anything..... just my opinion
Ukrainian engineers created safety parachutes that deploy in case of an emergency for the whole plane i don't know why the industry implements it. Rest in Peace to all
"THIS IS a disturbing video, but we're CNN, and we will continue to show it!" WTH??
They always talk about Brazil being poor but that's a nice home with a pool.... Don't see anything poor about that. Condolences to all the families of those that died in the crash.
Engine failure,.
Lets all pray for the souls of that flight
that was not engine failure
Tudo indica foi devido ao tempo frio , que causou turbulência, fazendo o avião perder sustentabilidade , já que não era um avião tão grande .
you can pray for dead souls if you want but they are either in heaven or hell now and you cant change their destinations.
Terrifying. Prayers to everyone on board, their families, and the community.
If your god could prevent this, why didn't it? Your prayers to a powerless imaginary friend help nothing.
So terrible 😢
Sincere condolences, Brazil. No one deserves this... God knows why
That plane fell out of the sky
No the ground rushed up to the plane
No, the ground pulled the plane toward it.
Damn...May all those people RIP
Im Brazilian the whole country hurt 🤕🇧🇷🇺🇲🇺🇸
Diga por vc.
@@mercadofinanceiroaviacao a excessão é vc amargo
@@gabriel.ruschel Eu fico triste tbm perdemos um avião incrível que nem o ATR 😢 para repor ele vai ser caro demais de 5 a 20 milhões, mais acredito com fé que a empresa vai consegui se recuperar desse contratempo e vai fazer mais voos pelo Brasil.