There's a lot of gatekeeping in the community especially in North America. All they do in marvel 2, is play high tier, and claim they are the best without exploring more than 70% of the characters. It's up to the casuals to call them out on their ridiculousness. Cool tech with an unspoken of character.
Yea its strange I mean look at the end, how is this idiot going around talking so much shit and I went back and check and theres some posts on my channel he forgot to delete. Like dude.. why are you so insecure about this game, when I have said how many times I dont play it, im not good, its not a big deal. I just wanted to see if I could find something new or cool with Hayato. But I knew the dude had a problem when he first started posting weird shit on my channel how theres people that have dedicated their lives to the love of the game, and I should do the same and doing stuff in training mode doesnt count I should do it in a real match. And its like.. ok dude, well I dont care about the game like that, im cool with just showing off a new concept. lol
bro the craziest part about this is that you're doing it on a beat up 30 year old Sega controller, when the scrubs who talk down to you from their ivory tower discord servers are most likely still saving money from their Starbucks Barista tips to buy the new cross-gender mix-species joystick that costs $800 before they grow the nerve to play in a tournament. Amazing stuff, and great job exposing Romneto for his insanity.
I'm sure even Magusold would be impressed with this or at least happy to see more people interested on exploiting Hayato's capabilities , have you ever got in contact and shared some knowledge with him ?
No I had never even heard of the guy before people started posting about him. Again I dont follow the game competitively really I was just doing random tech videos for it. And like I said originally when I put in the game, I was like I wonder if I could find anything new. And then after I started doing stuff I sent it to other tech guys and people in the community to make sure it was new and worth putting out and they said it was and then.. well here we are now just randomly when bored putting in the game for a bit to see if I can find new stuff.
Pretty sick that you did this on pad. I always thought you were a stick player. Do you do a bit of everything? A cool video idea would be your thoughts on different controller types american/jp style sticks vs. pads, thoughts on hitbox etc. good shi like always
Oh no when I was very young I use to play on arcade stick but I had to teach myself to play everything on pad basically as health got worse, had surgery on my hands etc. Still got nerve damage to this day, and even playing ff7 rebirth say recently I gotta take breaks.. I dont have a lot of strength in my hands. Its also why I gotta work out with light weights, bands, etc. Although of course I should say, say something like guilty gear of course I never played that on arcade stick.. but SF sorta games yea I ended up just going totally to pad. As for videos about different sticks/pads etc ive made many videos on that topic.
Can i get a link to the controller. I never got used to stick, I suck with it. My issue is that the dpads don't last long or dont work properly. The 360 was a great option, but the bootleg ones......... i can even do qcf. They really suck. If u can do a double dark Hayato, Ithink that d could handle me
I admit that I don't understand the beef with Romneto, here. The Discord comment was from like a month ago, while the comment he posted on your video was 6 years ago. And even factoring that in, the two things he said aren't mutually exclusive, are they? While it was definitely a bit blunt and impolite to take the wind out of your sails by talking about someone else doing something that you're excited to showcase, that doesn't seem to be an unfair critique, does it? Romneto is always a little on the blunt side; that's just how he is. If he likes something, he'll tell you. If he doesn't like/agree with something, he'll tell you. He really isn't the type to mince words on things. That being said, if the combo he showed was substantially different from the one you are doing, it's perfectly valid to say "No, those aren't the same thing, and here's why." No qualms with that. But I don't think it's necessary to add name-calling or insults into the fray on a simple disagreement. Just my two cents. If I misunderstood anything, please let me know.
you could just watch the videos? IVe showed the dude talking shit about me for a looooooooooong time now. And yes he constantly wants to refer to a video as if I got what I was doing from another guy.. yet if you watch the video. Its not even the same thing at all. And not only that what he shows in the video, well fuck if its supposed to be saying I stole double black hayato from the dude, I was doing triple shit long before that. And hell he used to comment on my videos in the first place. So no matter what argument he tries to spin this as, he lied. Its ridiculous. Anyway like I said again before in videos and in comments many times, i had no problem with the dude, but eventually he started throwing a bitchy fit, and didnt like that people were talking about my videos, because it apparently doesnt count if its new unless I do it in a match. And he start posting weird shit on my channel that they are people that have dedicated their lives to the game because they love it, and I should do the same.. and I was like.. what is this guy talking about? And I was like well whatever dude I dont play the game, so im fine with just showing off a new concept thats good enough for me. And yea he didnt like that.
Clayton, for the corner-to-corner, you are whiffing LP Shiden (qcf.LP) after they get launched by Plasma Field? I thought you were whiffing 66P (the dash attack). Could you explain that please?
I dont remember what I said in this video if thats what I said at that specific point I just mispoke then. Again theres many videos on how you do this on my youtube through out the years. Ive made videos of me doing it live, ive made videos showing the controller while I do it, ive made videos even on twitter doing it. Again if thats what I said at this specific point in the video I dont remember I must have just mispoke because at this point again ive explained how to do this stuff at nauseam and even just recently once again I got more messages that its fake and not real. I honestly dont know what to tell you guys anymore.
@@SaishuuKessen ah okay cause I took up your idea of finding an optimal team with hayato and I think omega red and sentinel work really well with hayato because omega red throw assist can help also help hayato activate the bug where hayatos super launches them really high and you can also follow up black hayato cause of your tech I'm really gonna consider playing hayato
I mean ive made many videos on many games, and ive said before who has done more for tech in fighting games in the first place? ive done so much the community has had to lie about me to extreme degrees. Anyway whatever the case again thats not to say that I play the game or am good at it, but I do have curiosity about say the idea of it at a optimal level. More specifically with characters I have a passing interest in. Anyway again just posting this because apparently even though ive showed this in videos before, I guess people don really bother watching the full videos, so here is a video dedicated to it once again showing. Even with rolling ff, its tight, again I couldnt tell you how many frames it is, but it does require fast fingers even with rolling off. With rolling on however I mean again I wouldnt be surprised if its a legit just frame on some characters, and I would assume its something like 1-3 frames who knows depending on the character for the entire motion so it must be done very very fast. So either you have to do that manually as quick as possible or you can try to negative edge it like this which should give you a more consistent id think fast as possible way to do it, however of course muscle memory wise quite a bastard and unnatural.
Just cause your putting the ai on rollable doesnt mean its a unrollable combo, you can mash and roll out of a lot of stuff you have to test that brody. Also i seen stuff on combo videos and forums like shoryuken with alot of hyato tech usually its from japan not U.S. and its not mainstream. I can try to find sum old footage
the earliest magus old vid he uploaded was 4 years ago at the time of this comment and your vid is seven feel free to correct but that what I saw (I follow magus cause he plays hayato)
Sad hayato isn't played at his highest level, sure there's like one player who plays him but that's just one person and not multiple players to show this off.
Yea I mean on one hand I think there is the thought that can you ever be truely optimal? I mean no one can always play perfect... and certainly hayato has weaknesses. But I go back to that thing about talking about how when the game was being theorized and still played for years, at one point I remember reading conversations from dudes and there was the idea that hayato not only might be low tier but he could be potentially even the worst character in the game when all is said and done. Because really he had nothing besides the corner combo. Which was discovered very early on in the game, like licky a dee split. And it was a well known thing cuz it was just something everyone wanted to hit once because it was cool and did a lot of damage. But it was really like... he has nothing besides that big combo. And hell even back then nothing like just a double black hayato was known. So there was a thought that he might just be the worst guy in the game period. But then I think about some of the stuff ive shown and its like you know, maybe just maybe if back in the day this sorta stuff was known. Maybe their might be that caveat of, hayato sucks in neutral compared to many other characters, but theoretically he can kill you off anything anywhere. And he might just have the "best" or one of the "best" combos in the entire game. Had it been known who knows maybe he would have been labbed more and theorized more. Guess will never know.
Yea pretty funny huh... The guy forgot to delete his posts on my old videos. Fuck me. Like heres my question though... why? Whats the point of now lying about me and all this other shit? And of course its even stupider because even if he did remember to delete his posts, the videos he shows that somehow is proof I got stuff from other people if you watch, its not even the same thing. And it doesnt magically make my videos done all these years before that video somehow not exist.
@@SaishuuKessen hahaha like I always tell you...these people are mental cases. Real marvel heads know whats good and know how impressive your videos are.
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Your stuff with explanations and examples like this is always great
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There's a lot of gatekeeping in the community especially in North America. All they do in marvel 2, is play high tier, and claim they are the best without exploring more than 70% of the characters. It's up to the casuals to call them out on their ridiculousness. Cool tech with an unspoken of character.
Yea its strange I mean look at the end, how is this idiot going around talking so much shit and I went back and check and theres some posts on my channel he forgot to delete. Like dude.. why are you so insecure about this game, when I have said how many times I dont play it, im not good, its not a big deal. I just wanted to see if I could find something new or cool with Hayato. But I knew the dude had a problem when he first started posting weird shit on my channel how theres people that have dedicated their lives to the love of the game, and I should do the same and doing stuff in training mode doesnt count I should do it in a real match. And its like.. ok dude, well I dont care about the game like that, im cool with just showing off a new concept. lol
This is why VDO is one of the G.O.A.Ts in MVC2
bro the craziest part about this is that you're doing it on a beat up 30 year old Sega controller, when the scrubs who talk down to you from their ivory tower discord servers are most likely still saving money from their Starbucks Barista tips to buy the new cross-gender mix-species joystick that costs $800 before they grow the nerve to play in a tournament. Amazing stuff, and great job exposing Romneto for his insanity.
At least they aren't using hitboxes or whatever
Hitboxes are more practical than stick and pad. It’s literally the simplest controller to make and maintain.
What's the deal with Romneto?
Input tech is old but the combo might be new.
Negative Edging in FGC NBC (GONE WRONG)
I'm sure even Magusold would be impressed with this or at least happy to see more people interested on exploiting Hayato's capabilities , have you ever got in contact and shared some knowledge with him ?
No I had never even heard of the guy before people started posting about him. Again I dont follow the game competitively really I was just doing random tech videos for it. And like I said originally when I put in the game, I was like I wonder if I could find anything new. And then after I started doing stuff I sent it to other tech guys and people in the community to make sure it was new and worth putting out and they said it was and then.. well here we are now just randomly when bored putting in the game for a bit to see if I can find new stuff.
Pretty sick that you did this on pad. I always thought you were a stick player. Do you do a bit of everything? A cool video idea would be your thoughts on different controller types american/jp style sticks vs. pads, thoughts on hitbox etc. good shi like always
Oh no when I was very young I use to play on arcade stick but I had to teach myself to play everything on pad basically as health got worse, had surgery on my hands etc. Still got nerve damage to this day, and even playing ff7 rebirth say recently I gotta take breaks.. I dont have a lot of strength in my hands. Its also why I gotta work out with light weights, bands, etc. Although of course I should say, say something like guilty gear of course I never played that on arcade stick.. but SF sorta games yea I ended up just going totally to pad. As for videos about different sticks/pads etc ive made many videos on that topic.
Can i get a link to the controller. I never got used to stick, I suck with it. My issue is that the dpads don't last long or dont work properly. The 360 was a great option, but the bootleg ones......... i can even do qcf. They really suck. If u can do a double dark Hayato, Ithink that d could handle me
I admit that I don't understand the beef with Romneto, here. The Discord comment was from like a month ago, while the comment he posted on your video was 6 years ago. And even factoring that in, the two things he said aren't mutually exclusive, are they?
While it was definitely a bit blunt and impolite to take the wind out of your sails by talking about someone else doing something that you're excited to showcase, that doesn't seem to be an unfair critique, does it? Romneto is always a little on the blunt side; that's just how he is. If he likes something, he'll tell you. If he doesn't like/agree with something, he'll tell you. He really isn't the type to mince words on things.
That being said, if the combo he showed was substantially different from the one you are doing, it's perfectly valid to say "No, those aren't the same thing, and here's why." No qualms with that. But I don't think it's necessary to add name-calling or insults into the fray on a simple disagreement. Just my two cents. If I misunderstood anything, please let me know.
you could just watch the videos? IVe showed the dude talking shit about me for a looooooooooong time now. And yes he constantly wants to refer to a video as if I got what I was doing from another guy.. yet if you watch the video. Its not even the same thing at all. And not only that what he shows in the video, well fuck if its supposed to be saying I stole double black hayato from the dude, I was doing triple shit long before that. And hell he used to comment on my videos in the first place. So no matter what argument he tries to spin this as, he lied. Its ridiculous. Anyway like I said again before in videos and in comments many times, i had no problem with the dude, but eventually he started throwing a bitchy fit, and didnt like that people were talking about my videos, because it apparently doesnt count if its new unless I do it in a match. And he start posting weird shit on my channel that they are people that have dedicated their lives to the game because they love it, and I should do the same.. and I was like.. what is this guy talking about? And I was like well whatever dude I dont play the game, so im fine with just showing off a new concept thats good enough for me. And yea he didnt like that.
Clayton, for the corner-to-corner, you are whiffing LP Shiden (qcf.LP) after they get launched by Plasma Field? I thought you were whiffing 66P (the dash attack). Could you explain that please?
huh, I already said im wiffing ffhp the ninja dash thing. Ive made countless videos about it now. ruclips.net/user/shortsHVWjz4W-IU4
@@SaishuuKessenThanks! I got confused at 4:58 because I thought you said “whiff the Shiden”. I misunderstood, sorry about that! 🙏
I dont remember what I said in this video if thats what I said at that specific point I just mispoke then. Again theres many videos on how you do this on my youtube through out the years. Ive made videos of me doing it live, ive made videos showing the controller while I do it, ive made videos even on twitter doing it. Again if thats what I said at this specific point in the video I dont remember I must have just mispoke because at this point again ive explained how to do this stuff at nauseam and even just recently once again I got more messages that its fake and not real. I honestly dont know what to tell you guys anymore.
Sick stuff have you thought about exploring assists that work well with hayato
nah dont plan on playing the game, just wanted to do cool stuff with Hayato.
@@SaishuuKessen ah okay cause I took up your idea of finding an optimal team with hayato and I think omega red and sentinel work really well with hayato because omega red throw assist can help also help hayato activate the bug where hayatos super launches them really high and you can also follow up black hayato cause of your tech I'm really gonna consider playing hayato
Cool as usual
How does one who has never played mvc2 figure out that they have to do a special input? It’s gonna take years
I mean ive made many videos on many games, and ive said before who has done more for tech in fighting games in the first place? ive done so much the community has had to lie about me to extreme degrees. Anyway whatever the case again thats not to say that I play the game or am good at it, but I do have curiosity about say the idea of it at a optimal level. More specifically with characters I have a passing interest in. Anyway again just posting this because apparently even though ive showed this in videos before, I guess people don really bother watching the full videos, so here is a video dedicated to it once again showing. Even with rolling ff, its tight, again I couldnt tell you how many frames it is, but it does require fast fingers even with rolling off. With rolling on however I mean again I wouldnt be surprised if its a legit just frame on some characters, and I would assume its something like 1-3 frames who knows depending on the character for the entire motion so it must be done very very fast. So either you have to do that manually as quick as possible or you can try to negative edge it like this which should give you a more consistent id think fast as possible way to do it, however of course muscle memory wise quite a bastard and unnatural.
Just cause your putting the ai on rollable doesnt mean its a unrollable combo, you can mash and roll out of a lot of stuff you have to test that brody. Also i seen stuff on combo videos and forums like shoryuken with alot of hyato tech usually its from japan not U.S. and its not mainstream. I can try to find sum old footage
argh... *rolls eyes*
the earliest magus old vid he uploaded was 4 years ago at the time of this comment and your vid is seven feel free to correct but that what I saw (I follow magus cause he plays hayato)
actually I have videos of hayato from at least 9 years ago on my channel looking really quickly.
Sad hayato isn't played at his highest level, sure there's like one player who plays him but that's just one person and not multiple players to show this off.
Yea I mean on one hand I think there is the thought that can you ever be truely optimal? I mean no one can always play perfect... and certainly hayato has weaknesses. But I go back to that thing about talking about how when the game was being theorized and still played for years, at one point I remember reading conversations from dudes and there was the idea that hayato not only might be low tier but he could be potentially even the worst character in the game when all is said and done. Because really he had nothing besides the corner combo. Which was discovered very early on in the game, like licky a dee split. And it was a well known thing cuz it was just something everyone wanted to hit once because it was cool and did a lot of damage. But it was really like... he has nothing besides that big combo. And hell even back then nothing like just a double black hayato was known. So there was a thought that he might just be the worst guy in the game period. But then I think about some of the stuff ive shown and its like you know, maybe just maybe if back in the day this sorta stuff was known. Maybe their might be that caveat of, hayato sucks in neutral compared to many other characters, but theoretically he can kill you off anything anywhere. And he might just have the "best" or one of the "best" combos in the entire game. Had it been known who knows maybe he would have been labbed more and theorized more. Guess will never know.
This was impressive 😂😂
Yea pretty funny huh... The guy forgot to delete his posts on my old videos. Fuck me. Like heres my question though... why? Whats the point of now lying about me and all this other shit? And of course its even stupider because even if he did remember to delete his posts, the videos he shows that somehow is proof I got stuff from other people if you watch, its not even the same thing. And it doesnt magically make my videos done all these years before that video somehow not exist.
@@SaishuuKessen hahaha like I always tell you...these people are mental cases. Real marvel heads know whats good and know how impressive your videos are.
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Cringeneto
Seriously why did the guy forget to delete all his posts even on my channel if he was gonna lie like that
Hayato is sexy
its the spandex... errrr I mean the.. wife beater on .. top..of the spandex....