My fellow gankers this invader made this video to trick us into Be sure to fight the invader 1v1 and near PvE so they can attack him and you at the same time
honestly a very good approach which makes me think you want to fight fair 1v1's on paper a good idea but in game supid because invaders are most of the times not stupid people and will use something cheesy
I’ve had some of the nicest invaders lately, one today showed me to a chest I’d never found before. A few weeks ago one came in took off their armor and weapons and we had a blast having a punch fight. I see a lot of other PvE players saying they hate invasions, but some of my favorite moments in the game have been thanks to my red friends ❤
This is something I never see people talking about but if you see that the invaders in question are very noob to the point where you can dance all over them just give them a chance,play around with a few back steps and experiment with new stuff. Nothing hurts me more than when helping a buddy and i see a nooby red so i take it easy on my fellows reds and stand in the back running side to side sneaking maybe a hit or 2 in but never dog pile the poor gamer ☝️
unless you know exactly what you’re doing with it, a shield is way more likely to get you one shot than it is to protect you against a halfway decent opponent.
@@InvaderTroy but they would loose those fights anyway. a shield can make or break the situation in an even fight. thats why people start out with shields.
I make all my builds with PvP as the main focus. Any build should be capable of fighting any enemy. Find a build that fits your playstyle in all situations
I think one of the main tips that isn't skill or strat based is just levelling vigor. I'm not a fan of invading host wizards with health bars smaller than their FP bars its too easy
1 rarely talked about tip in pvp in general I wanna give. We see it in invaders RUclips channels all the time "Hit out of hit stun? Dishonest!". So to this, you gotta see the frames after getting hit as a 50/50 most experienced pvpers expect you to roll and got their roll catch timings trained in their blood so don't be afraid to hit out of hitstun. But never make it too predictable and mix it up with rolls/delayed rolls. Another tip if you hit someone out of hit stun and they engage you again but now with a shield/parry tool you can expect them to try and parry so neutral jump attack, delayed R2 or certain ashes of war out of hitstun work great against it.
That’s why a lot of pvp players started hard swapping for parries. So you don’t see it coming. The only time monkey mashing out of hitstun works against a decent player is if you have some latency
@@Oct0ber_4_Ever no mater if lost, chasethebro, oroboro, steelovsky etc all those have gotten hit by "monkey mashing" out of hit stun. (me included) And like I said it's a 50/50 (guessing game) or are you telling me after every hit you land you gonna open menu and hard swap to get a hard read? I mentioned specifically to mix it up and not just mash out of every hit stun but if you only roll vs a decent - good pvper you're gonna get roll catched to death if latency is good so sometimes taking the risk to mash can turn the tides quite alot. Especially since this video is against invaders so landing 1 hit out of hit stun can lead into getting blender comboed. I only invade btw and obviously hate blenders, getting hit out of hitstun etc too.
@@TheDarkness4560 Doesn’t matter how much you “mix it up” teaching someone to always attack out if hitstun is a bad idea. Especially if you know you’re both going to trade again.
@@Oct0ber_4_Ever oh I didn't know mixing it up and ALWAYS hitting out of hitstun are the same thing? Like did you even read what I said? Hitting out of hitstun is here to counter ppl who prepare the next roll catch nothing else and it's just a option to keep in mind but obviously don't rely too much on it and only do it here and there to make opponent aware you're doing it.
Ngl what pisses me off so much is people going after an invader who is clearly running off to PVE and then proceeds to aggro everything. And its always the host! Like of course youre going to be defeated you just aggroed like 10 enemies so what was a 3v1 becomes 3v11.
Info, try raptor of the mists on Milady, you won’t regret it. Also 2h makes the running R2 even BETTER! 😜 My biggest fear in invasions is 3 guys with colossal swords in the locked stormveil side path.
literally all you need to outplay an invader is to play it safe, have a balance of passive and aggressive pressure, and knows how to space and avoid attacks to whiff punish. basic hardswapping knowledge on using weapons that hard counter on certain builds the opponent uses. or even basic ring swapping. and basic latency connection knowledge. if the latency is rly rly bad it's okay to just focus on running away to the nearest boss door or just end the match by jumping off towards any nearest cliff or return home if you're an invader. nobody will blame you or scold you for doing so if the fight was so unplayable.
A lot of the nastiest stuff in pvp is essentially a knowledge/preparation check. Best example I think is the claws of night. If you’re not ready with the pumpkin helm or the crucible knot talisman it’s basically a free win for them. I would argue that knowing how to get out of a vortex is more important than any of that though. If someone is coming at you with a halberd stop rolling backwards!
good video. but you left out the part where you should go on youtube and copy a top level pvp build and then completely fail to use it effectively because you have no idea what fundamentals like spacing and roll catching are or how to use them.
That last "tip" is absolute and total garbage. Hosts should take all threats carefully into account and not let invaders drag them into mobs or narrow terrain and learn to pick favorable fighting ground with cover and lines of sight to all approaches - the invader is hunting them so take advantage of that. Don't chase them down, wear them down. This video is either the lowest effort or a troll. The best way to take care of 90% of the invaders out there, is always ALWAYS carry some pure cancer in your build, preferably as much as possible and learn how to use it. Having 2 or 3 nasty spells or ashes of war on deck that are over powered and easy to use will cause way more problems for invaders than any of these tips.
My fellow gankers this invader made this video to trick us into
Be sure to fight the invader 1v1 and near PvE so they can attack him and you at the same time
Always separate yourself from your phantoms demonstrate to the invader you can take him alone that way you show them who is boss
exactly
Very true 💯
Is a trap
@@deivymaybe7554 shhht
honestly a very good approach which makes me think you want to fight fair 1v1's
on paper a good idea but in game supid because invaders are most of the times not stupid people and will use something cheesy
Hell you don’t even need a lord rune to buy me off just a bit of crab is enough for me 🦀
I have a twink invader named tax collector and nobody has ever tried to bribe me. :/
I’ve had some of the nicest invaders lately, one today showed me to a chest I’d never found before. A few weeks ago one came in took off their armor and weapons and we had a blast having a punch fight. I see a lot of other PvE players saying they hate invasions, but some of my favorite moments in the game have been thanks to my red friends ❤
BS.
This is something I never see people talking about but if you see that the invaders in question are very noob to the point where you can dance all over them just give them a chance,play around with a few back steps and experiment with new stuff. Nothing hurts me more than when helping a buddy and i see a nooby red so i take it easy on my fellows reds and stand in the back running side to side sneaking maybe a hit or 2 in but never dog pile the poor gamer ☝️
If you're casting and the invader is using carian retaliation, keep casting it's working.
Gaslighting pvers
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Dawg we need to popularize the OPPOSITE of this 😭 invasions are already 2v1 or 3v1 99% of the time
So true. Those people don't need help, we do!
Don’t constantly hold your shield up and if you see us pull out a dagger when you do STOP BLOCKING WITH IT 👹
Mfw shield up: 👀
unless you know exactly what you’re doing with it, a shield is way more likely to get you one shot than it is to protect you against a halfway decent opponent.
@@InvaderTroy but they would loose those fights anyway. a shield can make or break the situation in an even fight. thats why people start out with shields.
I am watching as an invader so I can maintain the 7 steps lead on the host
galaxy brain moment
all this advice is wrong. what you need to do is run a greatsword and split up. do not use any spells and do not heal until he does
I make all my builds with PvP as the main focus. Any build should be capable of fighting any enemy. Find a build that fits your playstyle in all situations
A lot of people haven't found their playstyle yet, and then you have those thay found it, but feel compelled to keep looking.
@@ZeriocTheTankme 😂😂 I’m really high leveled and I still feel like I’m doing something wrong
I think one of the main tips that isn't skill or strat based is just levelling vigor. I'm not a fan of invading host wizards with health bars smaller than their FP bars its too easy
1 rarely talked about tip in pvp in general I wanna give.
We see it in invaders RUclips channels all the time "Hit out of hit stun? Dishonest!".
So to this, you gotta see the frames after getting hit as a 50/50 most experienced pvpers expect you to roll and got their roll catch timings trained in their blood so don't be afraid to hit out of hitstun. But never make it too predictable and mix it up with rolls/delayed rolls.
Another tip if you hit someone out of hit stun and they engage you again but now with a shield/parry tool you can expect them to try and parry so neutral jump attack, delayed R2 or certain ashes of war out of hitstun work great against it.
That’s why a lot of pvp players started hard swapping for parries. So you don’t see it coming. The only time monkey mashing out of hitstun works against a decent player is if you have some latency
@@Oct0ber_4_Ever no mater if lost, chasethebro, oroboro, steelovsky etc all those have gotten hit by "monkey mashing" out of hit stun. (me included)
And like I said it's a 50/50 (guessing game) or are you telling me after every hit you land you gonna open menu and hard swap to get a hard read? I mentioned specifically to mix it up and not just mash out of every hit stun but if you only roll vs a decent - good pvper you're gonna get roll catched to death if latency is good so sometimes taking the risk to mash can turn the tides quite alot.
Especially since this video is against invaders so landing 1 hit out of hit stun can lead into getting blender comboed.
I only invade btw and obviously hate blenders, getting hit out of hitstun etc too.
@@TheDarkness4560 Doesn’t matter how much you “mix it up” teaching someone to always attack out if hitstun is a bad idea. Especially if you know you’re both going to trade again.
@@Oct0ber_4_Ever oh I didn't know mixing it up and ALWAYS hitting out of hitstun are the same thing? Like did you even read what I said?
Hitting out of hitstun is here to counter ppl who prepare the next roll catch nothing else and it's just a option to keep in mind but obviously don't rely too much on it and only do it here and there to make opponent aware you're doing it.
@@TheDarkness4560 Yeah. I literally read your entire brain dead comment.
Ngl what pisses me off so much is people going after an invader who is clearly running off to PVE and then proceeds to aggro everything. And its always the host! Like of course youre going to be defeated you just aggroed like 10 enemies so what was a 3v1 becomes 3v11.
9:40 laughs in curseblade self-flagellating dancers
Info, try raptor of the mists on Milady, you won’t regret it. Also 2h makes the running R2 even BETTER! 😜
My biggest fear in invasions is 3 guys with colossal swords in the locked stormveil side path.
I love how elden ring catered to the gank and now we have content invaders catering to the gank. Elden ring does not care about red people
Fa Fe Fi Fo Fum,
i smell the tears of the casul
Let's split up!
What do you play on?
if you are gonna do coop, try the arena to get the hang of pvp and learn the basic mechanics.
Just gank the invader with mages, and use the great katanas running r1s.
Thats it.
I laughed watching mages crushes invaders (I play melee tho). They will whine about it in youtube, tryhards suffering is music to my ears
literally all you need to outplay an invader is to play it safe, have a balance of passive and aggressive pressure, and knows how to space and avoid attacks to whiff punish. basic hardswapping knowledge on using weapons that hard counter on certain builds the opponent uses. or even basic ring swapping. and basic latency connection knowledge. if the latency is rly rly bad it's okay to just focus on running away to the nearest boss door or just end the match by jumping off towards any nearest cliff or return home if you're an invader. nobody will blame you or scold you for doing so if the fight was so unplayable.
A lot of the nastiest stuff in pvp is essentially a knowledge/preparation check. Best example I think is the claws of night. If you’re not ready with the pumpkin helm or the crucible knot talisman it’s basically a free win for them.
I would argue that knowing how to get out of a vortex is more important than any of that though. If someone is coming at you with a halberd stop rolling backwards!
@@InvaderTroy halberd counter is like ds3 spear counter. Just go SNB and fish for backstab.
@@InvaderTroy Claws of Night is the Murky Hand Scythe Reborn. You have to mirror it
good video. but you left out the part where you should go on youtube and copy a top level pvp build and then completely fail to use it effectively because you have no idea what fundamentals like spacing and roll catching are or how to use them.
That last "tip" is absolute and total garbage. Hosts should take all threats carefully into account and not let invaders drag them into mobs or narrow terrain and learn to pick favorable fighting ground with cover and lines of sight to all approaches - the invader is hunting them so take advantage of that. Don't chase them down, wear them down. This video is either the lowest effort or a troll. The best way to take care of 90% of the invaders out there, is always ALWAYS carry some pure cancer in your build, preferably as much as possible and learn how to use it. Having 2 or 3 nasty spells or ashes of war on deck that are over powered and easy to use will cause way more problems for invaders than any of these tips.