Wrong. Qualified immunity only applies in civil cases. If cops went through the criminal system, like normal citizens, no immunity would apply and guilty cops would go to prison.
Yes because the cops should know that they are actors playing a role, as baby sitters because the entire population is considered a child, a ward, a man or woman that doesn't know how to act as a representative of his or her title I'm sorry it's not there fault they are stupid, but cops get tired of protecting people that don't even understand what it means to be American, people actually think you can come here and be considered an American, 😂😂😂😂😂never, you may become a citizen subject, but you will never be American, because you are incapable of understanding certain concepts, people want free-dum they wanna be free and dum, instead of just free.
Remember: qualified immunity is designed to protect government officials who have broken the law or violated someone's rights but when an ordinary citizen breaks the law they're told that ignorance of the law is not a defense.
It doesn't protect all government officials equally either. If a teacher walks into their classroom and guns down a student, there's not a prosecutor, judge, or jury in the country that would believe, "Gosh, there just wasn't any precedent in this circuit saying that executing my students was a violation of their rights. I should get qualified immunity."
It's been granted to CEO of corporations which is government now thanks to SCOTUS what pisses me off what idiot thinks Corp a person. And Citezen United been abused to corporate captured Government But when corporate hurts kills posions destroys property. All the sudden there not people any more and justice is served in the form of a fine goes back to gov victims get jack
No police or law enforcement officer should be able to use qualified immunity as a shield for wrong doing in circumstances which are not clearly defined as “official capacity”. Regardless of whether they are on duty or of duty if they are not enforcing the law or engaging in an active investigation they should not be granted qualified immunity. Why would a judge need case law or legal precedent to make a ruling which is so blatantly obvious.
@@patmcbride9853Just talking about ending qualified immunity on RUclips doesn't do a damn bit of good. People need to understand that in order to abolish qualified immunity, citizens must contact their legislators in order to abolish qualified immunity in their state. California, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Colorado, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, plus New York City, have already limited or barred all government employees from using “qualified immunity” as a legal defense in state court and has created a new way to challenge government agencies that violate constitutional rights. By doing so, it makes it much easier for victims of police violence and other government abuses to sue for damages. Join "Americans Against Qualified Immunity" (AAQI) and band together with those who believe that government officials must be held accountable when they violate our rights. Here you can sign a pre-written letter that will automatically be sent to your legislators. aaqi.org/what-you-can-do/#Contact-your-legislator
telling an alleged abuser his girl is reporting him is common sense he is putting her in danger. That is pure corruption. That is criminal investigation and got that woman hurt with a no shit Sherlock behavior. “Qualified immunity” as a matter of a cop working within rules either not yet ruled unconstitutional but later is and maybe reasonable to assume it was legal or a mistake the officer was not in a position to know but that the city or department could be liable is a good thing. The cop worked within the law but this was a suspect was informed their was a witness against them to what, protect his friend another cop. That doesn’t take a lawyer and a court to make that clear that outing her is danger. If for example he was on the take is that any different in reality than having a emotional reason to interfere with the case versus a monetary compensation.
@@culturewarsdiplomacy It was illegal for her to share that information with the abuser. She was not working within the law and she was not conducting an investigation. Her actions were not in an official capacity. Yes this is an obvious violation of her authority.
Seriously, the future of the Country's Soul is slowly being snuffed out. This goes above any individuals freedom, we should all be ready to sacrifice our freedoms to achieve true justice on the street when presented with tryanny. The courts are not aligned with justice, we will not find the solution in the jaws of the system
Seriously, the future of the Country's Soul is slowly being snuffed out. This goes above any individuals freedom, we should all be ready to sacrifice our freedoms to achieve true justice on the street when presented with tryanny. The courts are not aligned with justice, we will not find the solution in the jaws of the system
@apple-cv2xj The courts care NOTHING about the Constitution. Only civil rights. Civil Rights, unlike the Constitution, are the rights we allow THEM to choose and delegate to us at their discretion.
Nothing is confidential with the police. A confidential informant gets named in someone's discovery when they get indicted. That's how it works in Ohio anyway.
Problem is that the judges have Qualified Immunity: Premium Edition. They know there is nothing that can legally be done about them and they are becoming emboldened enough to say the quiet part out loud without fear.
Imagine a judge telling someone, due to you being punched with a left hand and the comparator being punched with a right hand, we have to dismiss your case.
@@hugoh.9694 and they need to stop using ‘woke’ (short for awoken or awake, waking up) as an insult. We all need to wake tf up. The system is about keeping the average person in their place and to protect the rich without restricting them. The average person doesn’t get protection. Just try to report a burglary and see how little they care. Compare that to someone caught shoplifting a can of baby formula or lunch meat. Waking up to the terrible way the majority of us are treated is a good thing but those with influence had to try to turn it into an insult, that way the masses distance themselves from it.
Qualified Immunity should never apply to illegal activity. Qualified Immunity exists so that minor mistakes do not end up in lawsuits. It's not supposed to be a shield against committing actual crimes.
Unless we use the 2a to fight back, nothing will change. I love IJ and what they do, but we are not ruled by laws. We are ruled by blue line gang members and their corrupt judges, DA's, and open bribe accepting supreme court.
I'll say. It's called an anonymous report, not a go snitch report. Anonymous means only those who have to be in the know get to know. Are you going to tell the guy if he ends up wanted for something, or are you going to do your job and uphold the law.
Once a officer has a verified instance of domestic violence or unjustified violence they should no longer be allowed to be a police officer That's abuse on someone waiting to happen
Every citizen in the country should file suit claiming qualified immunity is criminal at its core. It allows cops, prosecutors, and judges to act as an ad hoc criminal gang.
There has to be another case just like it already setting a precedent. The cases would literally have to happen on the same DATE, committed by the SAME exact people in the SAME exact location and the same exact time. Lmfo! And you all thought this Qualified Imunity thing was going to be about justice.
when I was a mortgage broker I had a coincidence of having three separate females who were either ex-girlfriends or ex-wives of police officers that confided in me during the processing of their loan documents probably related to credit issues about the abuse they suffered at the hands of the police officers. I think the country would be shocked to know that high percentage of domestic abuse amongst police officers. in one instance the ex-boyfriend officer kicked in the door of his ex-girlfriend and took a flat screen TV off her wall and two other officers (not in uniform), his friends, came in the apartment behind him and helped. He flatly told her "oh you want to call the police?" and he laughed "just imagine who's going to respond they're all my friends." I actually had some connections with the sheriff at that time and I offered to get involved but she was so afraid of the retaliation she asked me not to say anything and she just accepted the abuse. by the way the flat screen TV was something she purchased with her own money and he decided he wanted it after she dumped him, so it was a burglary and forced robbery by a police officer.
Why was the cop given immunity? I doubt the judge granted would've allowed it if happened to someone he cares about! Both cops and judge should've been arrested, charged, sentenced, name and shamed
The idea of circuit splits in general are unconstitutional for the reasons you stated. It makes federal law different for different people, which is a violation of the 14A. Suprised SCOTUS doesn't know that.
The idea of circuit splits in general are unconstitutional for the reasons you stated. It makes federal law different for different people, which is a violation of the 14A. Suprised SCOTUS doesn't know that.
Arbitrary enforcement, ambiguity and subjectivity. Designed to allow any judge hearing the case to throw out ANY case they see fit to ignore by simply saying... "these two cases are just not similar. One happened in the past and THIS one. Well, this one happened only just recently." 😂 Nothing whatsoever to do with actual justice.
@@hugoh.9694the primary issue with the prior case rule is no 2 cases are ever the same. Even when the conditions are similar the people are different That is no way to apply law. To think some of the farmers believed the bill of rights was not necessary is hard to understand. But back then loyalties and government service meant very different things. Some genuinely believed the constitution itself had enough safeguards because why? The individuals serving in government are "we the people" too. As I said very different today.
Because cops get the luxury of passing through the civil justice system, where policy, training and qualified immunity applies, and the tax payer suffers the consequences.
@@hugoh.9694 I also missed the part where the victim has to find a civil rights lawyer to work the case, that might take a decade or more to reach a conclusion at their cost and risk.
@@ExestentialCrisis So both the confirming officer and the abuser committed criminal acts. The abuser was not acting in his capacity as a cop, so he should be criminally charged with the abuse, and should not in any way gain qualified immunity.
The 'precedent' concept makes no sense whatsoever. If these judges cannot make a decision when the facts are before them, using existing law, then they should resign. It appears obvious in these cases that being a judge is not a 'good fit" for them!
If the judges require a previous case with the exact same circumstances in order to fit the “clearly established” definition, it’s a losing battle. They have to set precedent with a first case to refer to.
That is precisely the point. They are afraid that this case if ruled in favor of the plaintiff would jeopardize the now loosely interpreted shield of “Qualified Immunity”. It would create a legal precedent which would weaken qualified immunity by raising the standard by which q.i. would be deemed an acceptable defense.
That was the magical unjumpable hurdle SCOTUS intended when they illegally created QI. Many don't seem to make the connection that all these agencies, SCOTUS, Law enforcement all fall under a single umbrella called government. The greatest threat to the government is the restrictions imposed by the constitution. Systematically they have been dismantling the constitution. 1st amendment - no law shall be established - Courts, ah but time, place and manner restrictions. 2nd amendment - Shall not infringe - Courts, Well except in this case, that case and whenever we want. 4th amendment - secure in person, papers and effects - Courts, well there is that reasonable word so instead of probable cause we will reduce that to RAS of a crime. 5th amendment protects against self incrimination and the right to remain silent Courts, only if the person invokes this right verbally. 6th amendment right to have an attorney present during questioning. Never seen a situation yet even after invoking this right where the cops don't incessantly interrogate, harass, threaten, pretend to make deals with someone to trick them into answering questions.
Qualified Immunity should only be given to officers when they are acting in an official capacity, even then only when their conduct is within the bounds of the law. That should be the standard by which judges would grant q.i. as a valid defense. How can they call it qualified immunity when there is no standard and the only requirement is being a law enforcement officer.
Thanks for pursuing Justice. You guys at IJ are awesome. The question is how can we eliminate qualified immunity and absolute immunity for police and prosecutors. How can we get people to pressure their legislators to write laws to make it easier to go after bad actors. Also Judges and their lackadaisical approaches of looking at facts.
There is a huge problem amongst judges, there are many judges who are biased towards the prosecution and police. Not all judges mind you but far far to many. It leads to situations like this where one side is clearly abusing qualified immunity! This is unacceptable and I am so glad that IJ is taking this case to the supreme court
Well, because the crimes were not exactly the same. You see, it would literally HAVE to be the same exact people committing the SAME crimes on the SAME exact time and date. Oh, did you actually think Q.I. had anything to do with law or justice? 😂
"Above the law" is literally what Qualified Immunity means. Federal judges (and all Federal employees) enjoy something called ABSOLUTE Immunity. And you can here thinking Q.I. had anything at all to do with law or justice. 😂 "Corrupt judges" sounds a lot like wet water or hot fire.
I really enjoy these longer videos. You guys are one of the best Non-profits in existence, and genuinely seem to care about helping people and making our world legally better.
Make sure they are arrested then. Speak out publicly, not online. Otherwise you are just as guilty. There were no innocent SS members. You are an SS member. You are not one of the "good ones"
Are you one of those mythical "good cops" we're always hearing about? I've heard people talk about them for decades but I've never met anyone that encountered one. (like unicorns or bigfoot) When you see a coworker violate someone's constitutional rights, do you throw them to the ground, handcuff them and tell them "that's against the law" rather than just standing back and watching because you don't want to make waves in the department? Cause if you're one of those guys, it was an honor to encounter you even if it's just in the comment section of a YT video.
@@jeannineharrelson1201why isn’t it fair. The statistics point to law enforcement officers committing domestic abuse at a rate of 40% of all officers, and that is definitely underreported. They tend to protect their own and stuff like this gets swept under the rug quite often. He’s not saying she deserved it, she definitely did not. He is saying she rolled the dice probably aware of said statistic whether she believed it or not. Why should he feel sorry for her?
@@FarckewVerimucc They tend to protect their own?? A bit of sarcasm... gee....ya mean like when a cop can call up another cop and find out specific details regarding his domestic abuse and an anonymous report??
Dinuba, California cop committed statutory rape repeatedly, & charges were dropped because he was a cop & it'd ruin his Badged-Brethren R.I.C.O. career if he'd been convicted for his sex crimes against a minor girl.
Imagine if a Judge or DA abused their wife & kids how they'd hide behind Qualified Immunity... There needs to be exceptions carved out in the law to address this very specific area of law.
The real issue is qualified immunity only protects these people in civil court, not criminal court. DAs need to file charges when the law is broken, cop, judge or politician. This cop clearly broke a law by disclosing a confidential report to the abuser knowing he had opportunity to abuse his victim further. The bare minimum should be that this cop should lose their certification.
Enforcement of the VAWA act needs to happen asap!! I live in Central WI and it is NOT enforced- the police dept does not protect people in domestic violence/abuse or survivor situations. They refuse to do it even when made aware. Happened to me.. put me and my kids in and unsafe situation which we are still in and there's zero support here. In fact they cut funding for our local women's community/domestic violence agency for support.
Qualified immunity should only apply within conduct within standards of conduct. In obvious commission of crimes, as in this case, qualify immunity should not apply and both officers should face legal consequences for their deliberate actions.
*_How in the seven hells!?_* Under what twisted and abusive system is leaking information about an ongoing investigation to a suspect considered performance of their duties. It's literally a policy violation and a direct repudiation of their duties. That appellate judge needs to be investigated for corruption and abuse and probably disbarred.
It comes down to right or wrong. We are either going to recognize that or not. There's no other consideration. Government actors should pay for their CRIMINAL actions (and punishment should be severe, bc they come with the power of state). Do you think the judges and prosecutors who also benefit from qualified immunity will ever give that power up? Highly unlikely. This will be a never ending issue. If it was a citizen committing the same crime they would be rightfully punished. We have no control over our government when this becomes the process.
Qualified Immunity needs to be a thing of the past. If the state has no obligation to protect the private citizen, from anyone. Then agents of the state should not get a standard of protection from their actions that the private citizens does not get.
Just talking about ending qualified immunity on RUclips doesn't do a damn bit of good. People need to understand that in order to abolish qualified immunity, citizens must contact their legislators in order to abolish qualified immunity in their state. California, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Colorado, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, plus New York City, have already limited or barred all government employees from using “qualified immunity” as a legal defense in state court and has created a new way to challenge government agencies that violate constitutional rights. By doing so, it makes it much easier for victims of police violence and other government abuses to sue for damages. Join "Americans Against Qualified Immunity" (AAQI) and band together with those who believe that government officials must be held accountable when they violate our rights. Here you can sign a pre-written letter that will automatically be sent to your legislators. aaqi.org/what-you-can-do/#Contact-your-legislator
There is a huge problem with all this, why would immunity even be an issue with these 2 cops that can’t say they did these bad things as an official act as officers
This is happening everywhere! My ex tried to run me, and our son down with our truck. First, the Police refused to serve him with a protection order. Only when the Police were confronted about it, did they serve him. After he kidnapped our Son, whom was listed on the order.
I don't mean to be insensitive to your situation but is it really necessary to use the verb kidnapped? Because that implies the kids were taken against their will. And unless that was true using it as a way to garner sympathy or express yourself is inappropriate in this format ( or something better discussed with your therapist, pastor ).
@@davepirtle9790 any time someone starts with "I don't mean, but" then I'm sorry because they absolutely do mean to be insensitive, rude, or disrespectful. They also know that it's socially frowned upon, and they don't want to be perceived as a bad person... If you had chosen to remain out of the comments, or at least chosen to actually be polite and supportive, nobody would have known that you don't like women, and believe that men have the right to take their children against a judge's orders. However, you chose to make sure we all know that about you, and now we can't unknow it. And so many men wonder why women adamantly chose the 🐻 Thanks.
Qualified immunity has no purpose in this situation. It's not an action in the performance of a legitimate duty involving unclear law. It's a conspiracy between two cops to commit a crime.
I am confused. Isn't Qualified Immunity supposed to apply when the police are doing their jobs? How is this an example of police doing their jobs? Qualified Immunity should not even be applicable in the first place in this instance.
That’s such an absurdity. Qualified Immunity is an excuse to ignore the clearly established body of Law for any reason. the Judge did not have to rule that way. They chose to ignore what is clearly established regarding the Duty of a Police Officer. And what is far outside of it. Leaking Reports of Criminal Abuse, to the Abuser is well outside of the Line of Duty. And is an Abuse of that Power, and a danger to the Victim of the Crime. That was and did abed a Crime. That is clearly outside of Duty, Abuse of Position, to Conspire to not only hide a Crime, but Facilitate further Criminality. That Judge is no Judge. They themselves are using made up Law, in order to allow the Abuse of Power to continue. I need that Judges name. It’s malignancy should be attached to everything they do and say. Observably. Disrepute upon the Courts is no joke.
.. been there, done that .. even worse when the judge is Corrupt, & Pals with the Defense, & throw in the Court Clerk's Office willing to aid the Defense because they want a Benefit for Themselves at Your Expense .. 🤨⚖️🇺🇲🚫
I understand qualified immunity but not in all circumstances. The only reason to keep it for all circumstances is to allow the courts themselves to be above the law and that's not American or constitutional
The only thing I don't like about IJ is they will not represent you unless you already have a lawyer and suit filed. I can never find a lawyer to take my case. No one wants to go against the cops.
As Steve explained, the IJ strategically selects existing law suits that they determine are good candidates to carry appeals to the SCOTUS in the hope of changing the law nationally. They do not have the resources to do otherwise.
That was my first thought. My second thought was ‘how is he able to call her in the middle of the night’ unless he has her cell number. 🤔 Wondering if she’s a side piece hoping to be his main squeeze.
Would be terrible if both of the officers, the one assaulting her and the one who knowingly gave the information to him, both became felons and ended up in prison for a minimum of 10 years. Then they couldn't even get a job a McDonalds after they got out of prison.
@@Nuf_Nivah Was is in reference to the events, not her existence. This has been a near decade long fight to overcome QI the officer and department, and most of IJ clients have not been family on behalf of a victim's estate.
We don't need more courts making more laws. We need SCOTUS to over turn it's original QI ruling and refer the concept to Congress to make a law on the manner. We need to stop using the courts to unconstituionally legislate because we can't get our shit together as the people in our legislature. End legislating from the bench.
You mean Anderson v Creighton, where Scalia authored the judgment that the circumstances don’t have to be identical. The problem is that the Roberts Tea Party/MAGA court is dedicated to reversing all precedent that protects the public
I'm so confused. Why are we talking about needing similar cases when someone did something clearly wrong and why are we talking about how force is used? It's a domestic violence case where one person happens to be a cop, who isn't even at work. It is disturbing, how the courts have clearly, done such a bad job, over time, they don't even know how to function, to the point they can't even prosecute a really obvious case.
Look at the organization responsible for several of the current Supreme Court Justices.... and look at how many of these local judges are a part of the same group. The erosion of democracy is intentional, and these people believe in and spread conspiracy theories because they are telling on themselves.
Nobody should get qualified immunity to hide behind and the bad thing is to if she would have defended herself they would have charged her with murder instead of self defense
Qualified Immunity doesn't apply where personal injury applies and the Officer who is personally contacted doesn't prevent victimization knowing they could, as a polite way to put it. This application of qualified immunity is just bogus.
WoW, I think I can't be shocked by anything dirty cops do anymore. Yet on an almost daily (definitely weekly) basis, they prove me wrong. This corrupt piece of trash didn't care if the woman was beaten more or even murdered. I cry sometimes when I watch or read these types of reports. What is wrong with our nation?
Qualified immunity is the biggest hinderance for justice. It allows police to act in a corrupt and abusive manner without repercussions.
TRUMP PLANS TO GIVE POLICE FULL IMMUNITY.
TRUMP PLANS TO GIVE POLICE FULL IMMUNITY.
Wrong. Qualified immunity only applies in civil cases. If cops went through the criminal system, like normal citizens, no immunity would apply and guilty cops would go to prison.
The biggest conn and miscarriage of justice with no footing on actual principles of law or legal doctrine. A figment of the Supreme Court entirely.
Yes because the cops should know that they are actors playing a role, as baby sitters because the entire population is considered a child, a ward, a man or woman that doesn't know how to act as a representative of his or her title I'm sorry it's not there fault they are stupid, but cops get tired of protecting people that don't even understand what it means to be American, people actually think you can come here and be considered an American, 😂😂😂😂😂never, you may become a citizen subject, but you will never be American, because you are incapable of understanding certain concepts, people want free-dum they wanna be free and dum, instead of just free.
Remember: qualified immunity is designed to protect government officials who have broken the law or violated someone's rights but when an ordinary citizen breaks the law they're told that ignorance of the law is not a defense.
Also I'm noticing the slick move of "Well we can't fire them bc its not a policy violation" for acts that any employer would terminate a person for.
"government officials"
That is *_WAY_* too broad a category for such extreme protections.
TRUMP PLANS TO GIVE POLICE FULL IMMUNITY.
It doesn't protect all government officials equally either. If a teacher walks into their classroom and guns down a student, there's not a prosecutor, judge, or jury in the country that would believe, "Gosh, there just wasn't any precedent in this circuit saying that executing my students was a violation of their rights. I should get qualified immunity."
It's been granted to CEO of corporations which is government now thanks to SCOTUS what pisses me off what idiot thinks Corp a person. And Citezen United been abused to corporate captured Government But when corporate hurts kills posions destroys property. All the sudden there not people any more and justice is served in the form of a fine goes back to gov victims get jack
End qualified immunity. Now.
It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
No immunity means huge numbers of frivolous lawsuits.
No police or law enforcement officer should be able to use qualified immunity as a shield for wrong doing in circumstances which are not clearly defined as “official capacity”. Regardless of whether they are on duty or of duty if they are not enforcing the law or engaging in an active investigation they should not be granted qualified immunity. Why would a judge need case law or legal precedent to make a ruling which is so blatantly obvious.
@@patmcbride9853Just talking about ending qualified immunity on RUclips doesn't do a damn bit of good. People need to understand that in order to abolish qualified immunity, citizens must contact their legislators in order to abolish qualified immunity in their state.
California, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Colorado, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, plus New York City, have already limited or barred all government employees from using “qualified immunity” as a legal defense in state court and has created a new way to challenge government agencies that violate constitutional rights. By doing so, it makes it much easier for victims of police violence and other government abuses to sue for damages.
Join "Americans Against Qualified Immunity" (AAQI) and band together with those who believe that government officials must be held accountable when they violate our rights.
Here you can sign a pre-written letter that will automatically be sent to your legislators. aaqi.org/what-you-can-do/#Contact-your-legislator
telling an alleged abuser his girl is reporting him is common sense he is putting her in danger. That is pure corruption. That is criminal investigation and got that woman hurt with a no shit Sherlock behavior. “Qualified immunity” as a matter of a cop working within rules either not yet ruled unconstitutional but later is and maybe reasonable to assume it was legal or a mistake the officer was not in a position to know but that the city or department could be liable is a good thing. The cop worked within the law but this was a suspect was informed their was a witness against them to what, protect his friend another cop. That doesn’t take a lawyer and a court to make that clear that outing her is danger. If for example he was on the take is that any different in reality than having a emotional reason to interfere with the case versus a monetary compensation.
@@culturewarsdiplomacy It was illegal for her to share that information with the abuser. She was not working within the law and she was not conducting an investigation. Her actions were not in an official capacity. Yes this is an obvious violation of her authority.
The police officer who endangered the victim should never work again, after criminal trial and a potential substantial prison sentence.
Potential? What he did was treason against the people, and there's only one punishment for treason
Life in prison.
Life in gen pop
So about a week before the broom comes out
Yes, dangerously unprofessional, at best. Malicious, at worst.
How TF does facilitating a crime, using privileged information fall under. "Qualified" Immunity!?
Exactly!
The courts say a "reasonable" officer wouldn't know it was a crime
Which is total bs. But that's what Qi is built on
Seriously, the future of the Country's Soul is slowly being snuffed out. This goes above any individuals freedom, we should all be ready to sacrifice our freedoms to achieve true justice on the street when presented with tryanny. The courts are not aligned with justice, we will not find the solution in the jaws of the system
@@apple-cv2xj Amen. Its scary but that's our reality now
Remember, judges are just lawyers that other lawyers (or even worse, politicians) like.
'Where you find police, you'll find crime.'
- Sir Terry Pratchett
Excellent quote!! Thanks 😊
Self proclaimed heroes have worn the qualified immunity excuse out and people are tired of it.
Seriously, the future of the Country's Soul is slowly being snuffed out. This goes above any individuals freedom, we should all be ready to sacrifice our freedoms to achieve true justice on the street when presented with tryanny. The courts are not aligned with justice, we will not find the solution in the jaws of the system
They are a criminal mafia.
@apple-cv2xj The courts care NOTHING about the Constitution. Only civil rights. Civil Rights, unlike the Constitution, are the rights we allow THEM to choose and delegate to us at their discretion.
She filed a confidential report - enough said, it's in the word.
Nothing is confidential with the police. A confidential informant gets named in someone's discovery when they get indicted. That's how it works in Ohio anyway.
At some point we, I believe, need to start calling out the judges who make up this nonsense.
That point has been reached years ago.
Whether left or right, be it red or blue,
_This_ is how your Government _wants_ to police you.
Problem is that the judges have Qualified Immunity: Premium Edition. They know there is nothing that can legally be done about them and they are becoming emboldened enough to say the quiet part out loud without fear.
The wolves care NOTHING about the opinions of the sheep the feast on. Here the leeches care nothing about the opinions of their hosts.
@@foremanhaste5464 No, they have Absolute Immunity. They cannot be held accountable for anything they do inside their court room.
Once she started dating the cop, sadly, her situation became bad right away. They will always stick together.
Biggest Street Gang in America.
"Brothers before others"
Kind of like leftists.
Imagine a judge telling someone, due to you being punched with a left hand and the comparator being punched with a right hand, we have to dismiss your case.
If that doesn't tell you it was never really about "justice", nothing will. People gotta wake TF up and quit acting suprised. 😂
@@hugoh.9694 and they need to stop using ‘woke’ (short for awoken or awake, waking up) as an insult. We all need to wake tf up. The system is about keeping the average person in their place and to protect the rich without restricting them. The average person doesn’t get protection. Just try to report a burglary and see how little they care. Compare that to someone caught shoplifting a can of baby formula or lunch meat.
Waking up to the terrible way the majority of us are treated is a good thing but those with influence had to try to turn it into an insult, that way the masses distance themselves from it.
Qualified Immunity should never apply to illegal activity. Qualified Immunity exists so that minor mistakes do not end up in lawsuits. It's not supposed to be a shield against committing actual crimes.
Exactly.
Yes and Amen!
They are already protected from minor mistakes under other laws. Qualified immunity shouldn't exist, period.
Unless we use the 2a to fight back, nothing will change. I love IJ and what they do, but we are not ruled by laws. We are ruled by blue line gang members and their corrupt judges, DA's, and open bribe accepting supreme court.
Whether left or right, be it red or blue,
_This_ is how your Government _wants_ to police you.
Absolutely disgusting they allowed this to go unpunished in the 9th circuit.
The 9th circuit judges should be impeached
Whether left or right, be it red or blue,
_This_ is how your Government _wants_ to police you.
Sounds like corruption
Get rid of qualified immunity and executive privilege and hold them all accountable
Trump thinks they need increased qualified immunity and Harris probably does too 😳
This is certainly one of the more disturbing cases of qualified immunity I've heard.
I'll say. It's called an anonymous report, not a go snitch report. Anonymous means only those who have to be in the know get to know. Are you going to tell the guy if he ends up wanted for something, or are you going to do your job and uphold the law.
Whether left or right, be it red or blue,
_This_ is how your Government _wants_ to police you.
It makes me wonder how many other dirty abusive cops are doing this and getting away with it.
Far.too.many .....
Statistics estimate 40% of cops are domestic abusers.
Once a officer has a verified instance of domestic violence or unjustified violence they should no longer be allowed to be a police officer That's abuse on someone waiting to happen
The wolves care not about the opinions of the sheep they feed on. Lol
Well said!
Claiming QI is evil.
Upholding it against clear rights violations is even more evil.
If that doesn't tell you it was never really about "justice", nothing will. 😂
Every citizen in the country should file suit claiming qualified immunity is criminal at its core. It allows cops, prosecutors, and judges to act as an ad hoc criminal gang.
How was reporting or snitching this to the other cop in any way part of his official duty?
There has to be another case just like it already setting a precedent. The cases would literally have to happen on the same DATE, committed by the SAME exact people in the SAME exact location and the same exact time. Lmfo! And you all thought this Qualified Imunity thing was going to be about justice.
HER official duty. It was a female. Just obscene.
when I was a mortgage broker I had a coincidence of having three separate females who were either ex-girlfriends or ex-wives of police officers that confided in me during the processing of their loan documents probably related to credit issues about the abuse they suffered at the hands of the police officers. I think the country would be shocked to know that high percentage of domestic abuse amongst police officers. in one instance the ex-boyfriend officer kicked in the door of his ex-girlfriend and took a flat screen TV off her wall and two other officers (not in uniform), his friends, came in the apartment behind him and helped. He flatly told her "oh you want to call the police?" and he laughed "just imagine who's going to respond they're all my friends." I actually had some connections with the sheriff at that time and I offered to get involved but she was so afraid of the retaliation she asked me not to say anything and she just accepted the abuse. by the way the flat screen TV was something she purchased with her own money and he decided he wanted it after she dumped him, so it was a burglary and forced robbery by a police officer.
Qualified Immunity, and Teacher Tenure are two of the worst things ever allowed
In other words, Judges can be corrupt at will. As corrupt as those they protect.
"and what exactly qualifies his immunity in this situation that he created?" - good lawyer in deposition
Anything THEY decide is "qualified". Nothing to do with actual "justice". 😂
Why was the cop given immunity? I doubt the judge granted would've allowed it if happened to someone he cares about! Both cops and judge should've been arrested, charged, sentenced, name and shamed
Whether left or right, be it red or blue,
_This_ is how your Government _wants_ to police you.
You mistakenly came into this thinking judges "care" 😂
@@hugoh.9694 assuming there's a difference between doesn't care to being an asshole.
The fundamental flaw of this doctrine is that it creates huge differences among circuits. Where is the EQUAL PROTECTION under the law??
The idea of circuit splits in general are unconstitutional for the reasons you stated. It makes federal law different for different people, which is a violation of the 14A.
Suprised SCOTUS doesn't know that.
The idea of circuit splits in general are unconstitutional for the reasons you stated. It makes federal law different for different people, which is a violation of the 14A.
Suprised SCOTUS doesn't know that.
Arbitrary enforcement, ambiguity and subjectivity. Designed to allow any judge hearing the case to throw out ANY case they see fit to ignore by simply saying... "these two cases are just not similar. One happened in the past and THIS one. Well, this one happened only just recently." 😂 Nothing whatsoever to do with actual justice.
@@hugoh.9694the primary issue with the prior case rule is no 2 cases are ever the same. Even when the conditions are similar the people are different That is no way to apply law.
To think some of the farmers believed the bill of rights was not necessary is hard to understand. But back then loyalties and government service meant very different things. Some genuinely believed the constitution itself had enough safeguards because why? The individuals serving in government are "we the people" too. As I said very different today.
Just imagining the terror while he is on the phone.
It literally makes me feel sick to imagine myself in her situation 🤮
Qualified immunity doesn't protect criminal activity.
Why isn't the abusive officer being criminally charged instead?
Because cops get the luxury of passing through the civil justice system, where policy, training and qualified immunity applies, and the tax payer suffers the consequences.
@@darrenconway8117... "Where the tax payers suffer the consequences"... of the OFFICER'S criminal activity. You left out the most important piece. 😂
The case is against the officer who confirmed to the abuser that the report was filed, not the abuser, so it's not relevant to this discussion.
@@hugoh.9694 I also missed the part where the victim has to find a civil rights lawyer to work the case, that might take a decade or more to reach a conclusion at their cost and risk.
@@ExestentialCrisis So both the confirming officer and the abuser committed criminal acts. The abuser was not acting in his capacity as a cop, so he should be criminally charged with the abuse, and should not in any way gain qualified immunity.
The 'precedent' concept makes no sense whatsoever. If these judges cannot make a decision when the facts are before them, using existing law, then they should resign. It appears obvious in these cases that being a judge is not a 'good fit" for them!
Serious question: can that Sheriff that shot a Judge claim qualified immunity?
That would be an interesting argument.
It's qualified immunity because enabling domestic abuse is part of his job. It was in the course of his duties.
Those who know, know
The victim should be charged with obstruction.
@@paulc-xj9ck If this is sarcasm, I wholeheartedly support it.
Whether left or right, be it red or blue,
_This_ is how your Government _wants_ to police you.
@@paulc-xj9ck Yes and hitting his fist with her eye is felony assault on a police officer I would have thought.
If the judges require a previous case with the exact same circumstances in order to fit the “clearly established” definition, it’s a losing battle. They have to set precedent with a first case to refer to.
That is precisely the point. They are afraid that this case if ruled in favor of the plaintiff would jeopardize the now loosely interpreted shield of “Qualified Immunity”. It would create a legal precedent which would weaken qualified immunity by raising the standard by which q.i. would be deemed an acceptable defense.
That was the magical unjumpable hurdle SCOTUS intended when they illegally created QI. Many don't seem to make the connection that all these agencies, SCOTUS, Law enforcement all fall under a single umbrella called government. The greatest threat to the government is the restrictions imposed by the constitution. Systematically they have been dismantling the constitution. 1st amendment - no law shall be established - Courts, ah but time, place and manner restrictions. 2nd amendment - Shall not infringe - Courts, Well except in this case, that case and whenever we want. 4th amendment - secure in person, papers and effects - Courts, well there is that reasonable word so instead of probable cause we will reduce that to RAS of a crime. 5th amendment protects against self incrimination and the right to remain silent Courts, only if the person invokes this right verbally. 6th amendment right to have an attorney present during questioning. Never seen a situation yet even after invoking this right where the cops don't incessantly interrogate, harass, threaten, pretend to make deals with someone to trick them into answering questions.
Qualified Immunity should only be given to officers when they are acting in an official capacity, even then only when their conduct is within the bounds of the law. That should be the standard by which judges would grant q.i. as a valid defense. How can they call it qualified immunity when there is no standard and the only requirement is being a law enforcement officer.
Yep a completely circular fallacy.
Your top legal scholars ladies and gentlemen, basic logical fallacies.
Curious my reply is missing.
Thanks for pursuing Justice. You guys at IJ are awesome. The question is how can we eliminate qualified immunity and absolute immunity for police and prosecutors. How can we get people to pressure their legislators to write laws to make it easier to go after bad actors. Also Judges and their lackadaisical approaches of looking at facts.
There is a huge problem amongst judges, there are many judges who are biased towards the prosecution and police. Not all judges mind you but far far to many. It leads to situations like this where one side is clearly abusing qualified immunity! This is unacceptable and I am so glad that IJ is taking this case to the supreme court
They go out to lunch together. Come on.
Judges are literally there to protect The State/Corporation
How is qualified immunity even applicable???
Well, because the crimes were not exactly the same. You see, it would literally HAVE to be the same exact people committing the SAME crimes on the SAME exact time and date. Oh, did you actually think Q.I. had anything to do with law or justice? 😂
Typical for it to take 11 years to get justice.
It's Mind boggling how corrupt people are.
Why are these corrupt judges and cops arrested and held accountable??? Are they all above the law ??? It's time for a change, and not for the worse.
"Above the law" is literally what Qualified Immunity means. Federal judges (and all Federal employees) enjoy something called ABSOLUTE Immunity. And you can here thinking Q.I. had anything at all to do with law or justice. 😂
"Corrupt judges" sounds a lot like wet water or hot fire.
I really enjoy these longer videos. You guys are one of the best Non-profits in existence, and genuinely seem to care about helping people and making our world legally better.
Agree. I don't get why, for the government, getting to just and fair outcomes with rational, evidence-based processes is so frickin' optional
I work in law enforcement. Anyone knowing giving an abuser information that could harm the abused is complete violation of their oath.
Are not police mandatory reporters when it comes to abuse?
Make sure they are arrested then. Speak out publicly, not online. Otherwise you are just as guilty. There were no innocent SS members. You are an SS member. You are not one of the "good ones"
@@meritholdingllc123 YES!!
Are you one of those mythical "good cops" we're always hearing about? I've heard people talk about them for decades but I've never met anyone that encountered one. (like unicorns or bigfoot)
When you see a coworker violate someone's constitutional rights, do you throw them to the ground, handcuff them and tell them "that's against the law" rather than just standing back and watching because you don't want to make waves in the department?
Cause if you're one of those guys, it was an honor to encounter you even if it's just in the comment section of a YT video.
Crickets 🦗 is all I heard ,,well more like ,no comment in response,,,,damn ,was hoping ,he was superman... 😂
It shouldn't just be the officer or other gov't official, but also anyone up the chain that knew about it and enabled it as well.
Friends don't let friends date cops
Yea I feel bad for her but I have little sympathy. She should’ve known better.
@@TCR2025 yea, if you grab an electric fence, prepare to be shocked lol, it's still sad, I guess somehow she believed the fence wasn't electric.
@@TCR2025 I don't think your comment is fair. 🤬🤬
@@jeannineharrelson1201why isn’t it fair. The statistics point to law enforcement officers committing domestic abuse at a rate of 40% of all officers, and that is definitely underreported. They tend to protect their own and stuff like this gets swept under the rug quite often. He’s not saying she deserved it, she definitely did not. He is saying she rolled the dice probably aware of said statistic whether she believed it or not. Why should he feel sorry for her?
@@FarckewVerimucc They tend to protect their own?? A bit of sarcasm... gee....ya mean like when a cop can call up another cop and find out specific details regarding his domestic abuse and an anonymous report??
Dinuba, California cop committed statutory rape repeatedly, & charges were dropped because he was a cop & it'd ruin his Badged-Brethren R.I.C.O. career if he'd been convicted for his sex crimes against a minor girl.
Prison.
This sounds like such pure negligence and dereliction of duty that it should be clear cut...
Imagine if a Judge or DA abused their wife & kids how they'd hide behind Qualified Immunity...
There needs to be exceptions carved out in the law to address this very specific area of law.
Judges and DAs have absolute immunity.
@@poppybe9179 that's the problem - absolute immunity isn't lawful it allows those with it to commit crimes.
The real issue is qualified immunity only protects these people in civil court, not criminal court. DAs need to file charges when the law is broken, cop, judge or politician. This cop clearly broke a law by disclosing a confidential report to the abuser knowing he had opportunity to abuse his victim further. The bare minimum should be that this cop should lose their certification.
Enforcement of the VAWA act needs to happen asap!! I live in Central WI and it is NOT enforced- the police dept does not protect people in domestic violence/abuse or survivor situations. They refuse to do it even when made aware. Happened to me.. put me and my kids in and unsafe situation which we are still in and there's zero support here. In fact they cut funding for our local women's community/domestic violence agency for support.
This takes " backing your brother in blue" to a whole new level.
Unbelievable.
That officer wants to be with him
Qualified immunity should only apply within conduct within standards of conduct.
In obvious commission of crimes, as in this case, qualify immunity should not apply and both officers should face legal consequences for their deliberate actions.
*_How in the seven hells!?_*
Under what twisted and abusive system is leaking information about an ongoing investigation to a suspect considered performance of their duties. It's literally a policy violation and a direct repudiation of their duties.
That appellate judge needs to be investigated for corruption and abuse and probably disbarred.
What a psycho😮
I am betting the Supreme Court, who created qualified immunity, will only make this worse.
It comes down to right or wrong. We are either going to recognize that or not. There's no other consideration. Government actors should pay for their CRIMINAL actions (and punishment should be severe, bc they come with the power of state). Do you think the judges and prosecutors who also benefit from qualified immunity will ever give that power up? Highly unlikely. This will be a never ending issue. If it was a citizen committing the same crime they would be rightfully punished. We have no control over our government when this becomes the process.
Its the reason we have the 2a. That's the only way it will change.
Qualified Immunity needs to be a thing of the past. If the state has no obligation to protect the private citizen, from anyone. Then agents of the state should not get a standard of protection from their actions that the private citizens does not get.
Just talking about ending qualified immunity on RUclips doesn't do a damn bit of good. People need to understand that in order to abolish qualified immunity, citizens must contact their legislators in order to abolish qualified immunity in their state.
California, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Colorado, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, plus New York City, have already limited or barred all government employees from using “qualified immunity” as a legal defense in state court and has created a new way to challenge government agencies that violate constitutional rights. By doing so, it makes it much easier for victims of police violence and other government abuses to sue for damages.
Join "Americans Against Qualified Immunity" (AAQI) and band together with those who believe that government officials must be held accountable when they violate our rights.
Here you can sign a pre-written letter that will automatically be sent to your legislators. aaqi.org/what-you-can-do/#Contact-your-legislator
It seems she should have filed a complaint at a different agency.
This is why you never date a cop.
or fireman or emt .....
This is why I don't speak with cops, even as friends, on or off duty.
Right? Who would jump into that knowing it’s likely a 50/50 chance you’re dating an abuser.
@@FarckewVerimuccWORSE! An abuser with impunity AND immunity.
Most government employees including CPS too.
There is a huge problem with all this, why would immunity even be an issue with these 2 cops that can’t say they did these bad things as an official act as officers
Everything in this country is broken.
Only for the sheep. Not for the wolves.
or it's working exactly as designed, and we're just now realizing it
Naw, it's fixed, as they designed
I love how detailed your discussions are. I will be supporting IJ.
This is happening everywhere! My ex tried to run me, and our son down with our truck. First, the Police refused to serve him with a protection order. Only when the Police were confronted about it, did they serve him. After he kidnapped our Son, whom was listed on the order.
I'm so sorry you and your son are being forced to live through the nightmare....
@@Lazy_Fish_Keeper thank you we survived it all.
I don't mean to be insensitive to your situation but is it really necessary to use the verb kidnapped? Because that implies the kids were taken against their will. And unless that was true using it as a way to garner sympathy or express yourself is inappropriate in this format ( or something better discussed with your therapist, pastor ).
@davepirtle9790 it happened, my child was 4 he was kidnapped!
@@davepirtle9790 any time someone starts with "I don't mean, but" then I'm sorry because they absolutely do mean to be insensitive, rude, or disrespectful.
They also know that it's socially frowned upon, and they don't want to be perceived as a bad person...
If you had chosen to remain out of the comments, or at least chosen to actually be polite and supportive, nobody would have known that you don't like women, and believe that men have the right to take their children against a judge's orders.
However, you chose to make sure we all know that about you, and now we can't unknow it.
And so many men wonder why women adamantly chose the 🐻
Thanks.
Qualified immunity has no purpose in this situation. It's not an action in the performance of a legitimate duty involving unclear law. It's a conspiracy between two cops to commit a crime.
You're wrong. 3:40 / 6:40 / 19:40 And beyond ; makes it very clear.
@@sacredkinetics.lns.8352 I think you must have misunderstood me. QI has no application in this situation.
This is just straight up corruption.
@@sacredkinetics.lns.8352 found the cop
Yes, it is. Yet qualified immunity shields the officers from accountability.
I am confused. Isn't Qualified Immunity supposed to apply when the police are doing their jobs? How is this an example of police doing their jobs? Qualified Immunity should not even be applicable in the first place in this instance.
What you are talking about is justice. THIS has nothing to do with justice or even LAW for that matter. Q.I. has no basis in law or legal doctrine. 😂
This officer knew that Desiree was in danger, and they still snitched. They should be arrested for that.
Officer snitch has serious mental issues if she is fine with causing another person to be beaten. Absolute sick behavior. Yuck!
@@MeRia035 Maybe she's his gf!! 😂
Most likely he is abusive too
File a civil suit against the individuals.
That’s such an absurdity. Qualified Immunity is an excuse to ignore the clearly established body of Law for any reason. the Judge did not have to rule that way.
They chose to ignore what is clearly established regarding the Duty of a Police Officer. And what is far outside of it. Leaking Reports of Criminal Abuse, to the Abuser is well outside of the Line of Duty. And is an Abuse of that Power, and a danger to the Victim of the Crime. That was and did abed a Crime. That is clearly outside of Duty, Abuse of Position, to Conspire to not only hide a Crime, but Facilitate further Criminality.
That Judge is no Judge. They themselves are using made up Law, in order to allow the Abuse of Power to continue. I need that Judges name. It’s malignancy should be attached to everything they do and say. Observably. Disrepute upon the Courts is no joke.
.. been there, done that .. even worse when the judge is Corrupt, & Pals with the Defense, & throw in the Court Clerk's Office willing to aid the Defense because they want a Benefit for Themselves at Your Expense .. 🤨⚖️🇺🇲🚫
I understand qualified immunity but not in all circumstances. The only reason to keep it for all circumstances is to allow the courts themselves to be above the law and that's not American or constitutional
Oh, yeah, sure, they'll say, ''There's no clearly established right" Yet the courts won't even create that right. What a joke!
It's a catch 22 ain't it?
The problem has never been bad apples. It is the rotten orchard that protects and promotes them.
Accountability is truly the enemy of the corrupt.
If nothing else, what does "confidential" mean? Does this officer not know what a confidential report is? How obvious can you get?
All federal and countries(states) govt employees/officers/servants etc must have Accountability and zero immunity.
Appreciate your work
The only thing I don't like about IJ is they will not represent you unless you already have a lawyer and suit filed. I can never find a lawyer to take my case. No one wants to go against the cops.
As Steve explained, the IJ strategically selects existing law suits that they determine are good candidates to carry appeals to the SCOTUS in the hope of changing the law nationally. They do not have the resources to do otherwise.
Knowing that cops in general have issues with domestic violence, why any woman would ever date a cop is beyond me. Risk vs reward
Female on the phone has a crush on this woman beater in my opinion
Yep 💯
They should share a cell
That was my first thought. My second thought was ‘how is he able to call her in the middle of the night’ unless he has her cell number. 🤔 Wondering if she’s a side piece hoping to be his main squeeze.
Yeah, they were humping, I'm sure. Sick woman.
She should have self defended.
Would be terrible if both of the officers, the one assaulting her and the one who knowingly gave the information to him, both became felons and ended up in prison for a minimum of 10 years. Then they couldn't even get a job a McDonalds after they got out of prison.
This is in part how Sandra Birchmore was murdered.
I'm glad Desiree is around to tell her tale.
💯💯💯💯
Is she because she keeps getting referred to as was
@@Nuf_Nivah Was is in reference to the events, not her existence. This has been a near decade long fight to overcome QI the officer and department, and most of IJ clients have not been family on behalf of a victim's estate.
You people are awesome!
The fact this even needs to go to the supreme court shows how broken our justice system is. END QUALIFIED IMMUNITY NOW!!!
We don't need more courts making more laws. We need SCOTUS to over turn it's original QI ruling and refer the concept to Congress to make a law on the manner.
We need to stop using the courts to unconstituionally legislate because we can't get our shit together as the people in our legislature.
End legislating from the bench.
You mean Anderson v Creighton, where Scalia authored the judgment that the circumstances don’t have to be identical. The problem is that the Roberts Tea Party/MAGA court is dedicated to reversing all precedent that protects the public
Then she was arrested for obstruction of his investigation and resisting arrest.
Stay on it. To judge these cases by such miniscule distinctions is ludicrous.
I'm so confused. Why are we talking about needing similar cases when someone did something clearly wrong and why are we talking about how force is used? It's a domestic violence case where one person happens to be a cop, who isn't even at work. It is disturbing, how the courts have clearly, done such a bad job, over time, they don't even know how to function, to the point they can't even prosecute a really obvious case.
Look at the organization responsible for several of the current Supreme Court Justices.... and look at how many of these local judges are a part of the same group.
The erosion of democracy is intentional, and these people believe in and spread conspiracy theories because they are telling on themselves.
Thank you ❤
Get rid of qualified immunity! Police officers should carry insurance like doctors do. Can't get insurance? Can't be a cop!
I have lost all faith in the justice system.
Nobody should get qualified immunity to hide behind and the bad thing is to if she would have defended herself they would have charged her with murder instead of self defense
An example of qualified immunity for the most unqualified of people.
both officers deserve prison
How can you possibly get qualified immunity for this? Makes me want to vomit
Supreme Court is not going to hear it. They want a police state. QI for a clerk! LOL
My question would be if it's so wide for Courts to say well this wasn't exactly the same facts of any other case then can't they just deny everything?
Rather than qualified immunity, law enforcement and court officials should face TRIPLE sentencing if they break the law.
Qualified Immunity doesn't apply where personal injury applies and the Officer who is personally contacted doesn't prevent victimization knowing they could, as a polite way to put it. This application of qualified immunity is just bogus.
WoW, I think I can't be shocked by anything dirty cops do anymore. Yet on an almost daily (definitely weekly) basis, they prove me wrong. This corrupt piece of trash didn't care if the woman was beaten more or even murdered. I cry sometimes when I watch or read these types of reports. What is wrong with our nation?
Lawyers and judges are crazy illogical.
The last words are brilliantly certain, unquestionable. God bless you all.🕯️
Thanks, IJ.