Bottom exit is an interesting choice. I was used to booming on 12 hour days minimum and I can imagine it coming directly out of the bottom. Also, I just realized how blessed I was to get boom poles from my dad as opposed to having to go buy them. These prices. Wowsa!
I got the Ambient Quickpole QSM which is their premium feature film boom pole and I have to say it is really great. Very smooth and stiff. Compared to my Rode Boom Pole Pro it is night and day, because the Rode Pro does tend to swing a lot earlier and the locking mechanism is really bad. Together with the Ambient straight cable kit you can also have the cable come out on the side and still have the rubber on the end for resting the pole. What I do recommend is to get the Rycote PCS-Boom-Connector which does not add a lot of weight but makes for a very fast and easy quick release instead of screwing the mount onto the pole. And finally Ambient offers a soft grip tube which makes gloves a thing of the past. An alternative to the Rycote windshields are the products from Cinela, which are more lightweight but are custom made to a mic. If you don't need a universal system, the Cinela OSIX2 and COSI-L-20 for the Schoeps CMC6 MK41 are IMHO the better products with a smaller footprint.
@@creativegreatsvisuals I think it depends on your personal preferences. I've read more positive opinions about Ambient Quickpoles and they are a German company - so I went that route. I don't wanna downspeak ktek - they make great poles, too.
Hi Curtis, if you look at the top Knurled knob where the gold coloured 3/8 thread is you can unscrew it completely and then remove the rubber bung/cover on the bottom of the boom pole you will see that you can drop a XLR cable in with out having to unsolder a XLR connector , . This what i tell our students to do instead of rapping the audio cable around the boom pole.hope this helps
I am running straight quad cable through the Rode. It is designed to have cable through it since there are cutouts on the top and a hole at the bottom. I did solder my own since I prefer to make my own cables. If the internal cable fails you can always cut and just do external cabling. If you are worried about the bottom end XLR connections you can always use a right angle XLR connector, those are about 8 dollars for the Neutrik ones. The Boompole Pro is worth mentioning tho.
Thanks Curtis! You've seriously been very helpful with the sound side of my small production. Didn't realize we lived in the same state. Hope you got some quality snow this recent ski season!
Don't know if you've reviewed on it but Orca have a product called the OR-17 which is a magnet boom pole holder; works like an absolute dream, I bought one recently and the versatility of it is very impressive, you can attach it your harness or find a sturdy piece of furniture to leave it during lunch. Runs around £70 (probably around $100) but its a good price to pay to save your arms between takes on 15 hour days, also good for Boom ops who don't feel the need to invest in a Sound cart just to have your boom quick fisted
The owner of Really Right Stuff helped fund a California proposition to ban gay marriage. In a post on Fred Miranda’s site when this became public, he had the audacity to say that his opposition to gay marriage should have no bearing on whether people buy from his company. Indeed, it’s clear from his post that if he could have legally, he would have hidden the company name when he made his donation. Of course, the post is the usual “I have nothing against gay people, but...”
with the K-Tek poles, just connect a cable at the bottom and twist it open, untangle the cable with the boom a bit extended and release the knot on top so the cable can spin to its "natural" position, screw it back it and your boom should collapse normally, remember to do the knot at the top
You could use a right-angled xlr on the bottom of the K-Tek pole to combat your issue with the weird angles for the cable, I imagine that would be annoying. You can find Neutrik ones where you can rotate the right angle whichever way you want. Great video as always too!
I went a silly way recently by simply attaching a Rode mic to a selfie stick and connected the mic to a Wireless GO, worked surprisingly well and recorded directly into my BMPCC4K.
There are very few reviews on the RRS poles, but I've used their gear on my cameras before. Excellent quality. Can you tell me about the RRS knuckles? Do they engage without much force or play, and hold well? Is the (looks like) rubber grip solidly attached to the knuckle, or can it work loose? How's the handling noise on the big pole? Anything unusual for a high-end pole?
Hi Stefan, the knuckles are some of the nicest I've used. Smoother and easy to engage/disengage. I also experienced less twisting of the sections with these knuckles. The rubber seems solid but I suppose only time would tell on that. The handling noise seemed about the same as any K-Tek pole I've used - very much related to the quality of the shock mount you use.
Thank you Curtis, I have a short K-Tek boom pole only used manually so far. Do these poles really need c-stands or will an ordinary stand make good? And what clamp would work for either/both?
Hi Alan, I haven't attempted to connect them to lighter stands and the holder is designed specifically to be held by a grip head which I've only seen on C-stands. But there may be a way to attach one of these to a lighter stand.
i think a good fix for cable sloshing is foam insulation. also the right angle female socket coming out of the pole just need a male right angle xlr going into it and then taping off with some slack and your safe from snagging the socket.
@@curtisjudd just a thought im not trying to give you advice. thankyou for all your vey helpful work Curtis. im trying to break into sound for video but even with a long background in music its difficult at best. im enjoying the learning curve though.
The ultra budget option is to pick up a painters/window cleaners extension pole for under $10 for a 6' to lengths like 24' for around $55. Then there are paint pole to selfie stick adapters that cost around $16 to $40 (depending on features) and adapt that to hold a mic, and while this can be done DIY for less, for basically $26 to $71 one can have a perfectly good 6' to 24' boom pole. People can even get them in carbon fiber at lengths up to 54 feet, but at that length it will run around $1500. (ridiculous, but not a bad price)
@@curtisjudd There is one issue I didn't mention. and that would be making sure they use a standard painters pole screw thread. While many painters poles do, the window cleaners poles can vary because they often pipe water to the head, but there are plenty out there that use the standard painters pole screw. Many brooms also uses theses as well. making getting a 3'-4' boom almost as easy as driving to a local supermarket.
Very cool demonstration. Liked the shock mount microphone with cover. My back hurts just looking at trying to carry, hold any of those boom arms. Would not last during a 15hr day.
I have personally had really terrible experiences with both of those K-Tek poles. I've used at least two that had the internal XLR's break inside them. I even had the misfortune of having a rather terrible boom operator (I'm not trying to be harsh, but unfortunately he did not care about putting forth effort) use one and then at the end of the day produce no audio thanks to the broken internal cable. Of course, you can replace it, but I have just had a better time wrapping the cable around the pole and I've seen quite a few other operators do the same. Once I outgrow my current pole by Neewer (awesome by the way) I'll consider purchasing another K-Tek or Really Right Stuff.
I have the rode pole aswell. i hate it due to the weight of it. Got a Rode Micro Pole, weighs in at 300 grams and has a reach of 2,5m. It is my go to boom ever since (unless it is a wide shot). Did buy a Boya BP-BY25 boom pole and must say i was quite impressed at first. But i ended up sending it back. Just now editing a review of it! Think i will check the k-tek airo out next! But hey, the RRS are really good looking. Kinda too heavy though.
Hi Mr.pro ,.good review as usual ..BTW the Rode one you said that you can't run cables inside ... although I did so with mine there is a notch at the rubber bottom cap and at the brass spiral top thread ... unplug them and run your cable ...just have a close look ... thanks
Thanks for the info on the shock mount because I surely thought I was gonna be booming with that little pistol grip that came with my deity 😭 don't mind spending the 600 or something close if it's what I need.
@@curtisjudd yeah I'm going to research some, that's something I wasn't really paying attention to as far as the quality of the shock mount. Was so fixed on the pole
Bottom exit boom, right angle XLR cable end. Mic "don't" drop! No I have not thought about this very much as I keep going back and forth to my wishlists at B&H. I got to do some official sound work on a small project and used one of the camera guys equipment and I loved it. but that got me thinking about what kind of boom pole I would want to get... I like the integrated cables but then there's user-replaceablety in case something goes wrong. and which way the cable comes out I liked being able to rest the pole so side mount would be better but then it's more complex and expensive.
Totally understand, it is a tough call. I prefer my side exit K-Tek more than my end exit K-Tek for the very reason you cited: ability to rest its end on the ground between takes.
@@curtisjudd I prefer the side mount but I don't prefer the price almost double sometimes. A right angle XLR cable would to do the trick of improving bottom mount booms or something like this XLR Angle Adapter www.amazon.com/dp/B073X2SDMJ/?coliid=IZ8VGOVF689F2&colid=1RP2FTOWJRHYP&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it The good news for me is I have to wait for a reason and cash flow to justify a purchase. The neewer one looked both in my price range and well made, but sadly lacks an opportunity to use in 2020.
Hi Curtis, I don't see a link to the Rycote products you discussed. Would you please consider sending a link to the pistol grip you discussed? Thanks, Sean
I hope the K-Tek works well for you! Which wireless depends on budget and how many channels you need and how critical they are for your work. I use the Audio Ltd A10 wireless system. It is excellent but definitely on the expensive side. A more affordable option is the Sennheiser G4 system.
Curtis Judd awesome.... thank you so much for all your help... you really got me where I needed to be and dip wise... 2 last questions, have you ever seen a feature done with shotgun mic exclusively and no wireless system? Also Have you seen anyone in the industry use the Seenheiser G4 on a movie that made it to either theaters or Netflix?
Hey Curtis, thanks for another great in depth video. Would you be able to send me a link for the piece of gear you use to hold your boom pool on the stand above your talent? Currently I use a small rig attachment to a c-stand arm, but I like your set up. Thank you.
Hi, what is your opinion on the Cyclone vs the Blimp wind protection systems from Rycote? I've seen the Cyclone's being used more and more it seems but i'm wondering what the difference in the two systems really is. Maybe an idea for a video? Anyway, love your stuff! Your videos always manage to capture me, I've learned a lot from you.Thank you!
Hi DSNL, I own the Cyclone and have used the RODE Blimp and similar Rycote wind shields. The main reason I went with the Cyclone over the others is that it is much more convenient and quick. What I mean by that is that you can open the cover and access or change out the microphone more quickly with the cyclone. In addition, it seems to provide more wind protection before needing to add a fur cover to it. I hope that makes sense and thanks for the question!
No, they cancelled the line. There were several design flaws pointed out by pro boom ops so RRS cancelled the product line and stayed focused on camera support.
@@curtisjudd Hmmm, maybe too hard to break into the boom pole market for the ROI then. Tripods/monopods obviously have a much larger market than mic booms being much more specialized.
That RRS travel boom looks really nice. Seems like something I "need". Unfortunately it seems like they don't really have their stuff for sale in Europe. It's very odd since all their stuff is so great.
These boom poles here are really made for hand held use. You can use them on a stand, of course, but they're rather overkill and expensive for that purpose. I don't know how much boom reach you need, but a stage boom mic stand - the $30 stands you see on stage for musical performances - should do just fine. If you need a longer reach, that may be a big jump in price.
Is there a way to set up a K-Tek pole like the RRS pole with the cage and rear XLR? I’m getting ready to buy my first professional pole. The RRS looks amazing but the price point is to high at this point in my experience.
The K-Tek Klassic line of boom poles does have the cable exit cage option but I don't believe it has the 1/4" or 3/8" screw taps to attach a wireless transmitter. So you'd need to either attach the TX at the top of the pole or find your own solution for mounting it at the bottom of the pole. Best wishes!
Hey Curtis, question: I used to boom in my film school using gloves, but my classmate said that it's mainly useless. I personally feel that using padded gloves like weight lifting gloves somewhat reduce the sound of handling a boompole, what's your take on that?
Great Video! Now i know what i need to pay attention to. Does anybody know what kind of mic that is in the upper left? I've seen these Mics couple of times in bts footage but i could'nt find out what they exactly are. Thak's :)
Dayum, those seem pricey for what they are. Re: the smaller K-Tek, considering the size difference, what would your thoughts be on sticking a low profile 90 degree metal XLR adapter onto the bottom of it? Maybe even one with a short cable so that you could tape the male output to the bottom of the handle.
Hey Curtis, your videos are typically quite nice. I just wanted to share that sometimes I find them a bit too long. It would be nice maybe to shorten them just a little bit. That said, nice job there!
Thanks Pedro. That's why I put the summary at the start - short and sweet for people who aren't THAT interested, long for those who want all the details. Don't be afraid to stop after the summary if the topic isn't for you. Thanks for the feedback!
Hi Vince, I borrowed the RRS poles for a couple of months to make this review. But they didn't convince me to buy them over my K-Tek Avalon so I'm still using those.
@@curtisjudd have you had any issues with tightening the knuckles? I just got a 110CCR and I really have to tighten mine so that I can release and extend other sections.
You did not compare the Rode boompole pro...carbon fiber unit...which is the only one to get from Rode if you want a quality boompole. The one you used to compare is a bit of a POS. The Rode pro goes for about $299.00. Thanks for the info on the RRS. Stu Schnurman Bic Raven
Thanks Stu for the info on the RODE Boompole Pro. Unfortunately I didn't have the budget to include others in the comparison here but this is good info to know. Thanks again.
Except if you are using a cardioid or super cardioid mic, ( for interior dialogue), which need phantom power, and almost never com with internal AA battery capability,..at least not the affordable ones.
Great question. I haven't used the Airo so I'm not sure. I'm guessing that a pole from a company who specializes in boom poles might be a better option, but I don't have first hand experience to say for sure.
Yes, though I've struggled to get a signal without too much self-noise with the Connect system. Usually I want the boom sound to be as clean as possible as it is the primary sound source and I rely on the wireless lavaliers to be backup to the boom
I love your channel, keep doing this, you help us a lot!! I have a doubt Curtis, I am gonna buy a microphone and I do not know which would be better for my purposes. I need a micro for voice (interviewds) and sound efects. My budget is around 300$, my options are deity d3 pro (location kit) or Rode Ntg4+ (xlr to jack). I would like to connect them via wireless with my rode wireless go. What do you think Curtis, which one could be better
Hi adsertheblade - that is a c-stand with a boom holder and the RRS boom pole. Links are in the description for the holder and pole. C-stands are available at B&H, Amazon and any other film gear retailer.
@@curtisjudd that is so weird! I just rewatched the last bit, and I didn't notice it panning, but I could have sworn that it was on my first viewing. It must have been my TV that was doing it.
Good stuff as always. The carbon RODE Pro boom is much much better than the first aluminium version. On my boompole I use a external canare cable L-2E5; so thin, so light, so good. In France, pros use VDB boompoles almost exclusively. www.vdbaudio.com/index.php?mode=products&type=cat&id=24
"really right stuff" is a repulsive company, as a creative professional i refuse to buy ANYTHING from them. instead, i will spend my money on companies without toxic politics...
I just googled and I assume you are referring to RRS’s support of California Proposition 8 in 2008? I would like to be clear that reviewing their boom poles is not an indication that I espouse their political views. Thanks for pointing this out so everyone can make a decision which reflects their personal beliefs.
Seems to me that they are a company dedicated to making properly useful stuff for photographers and the extended universe of cinematographers. To each their own opinion (company heads, employees and customers included), but I am fully in support of a company breaking the mold by their engineering prowess.
@@curtisjudd yeah, i appreciate your position (AND all your hard work) curtis. unfortunately i don't think it is cricket for corporations to espouse political beliefs -- especially political beliefs that are actively repressive of egalitarian human rights. they are the chick-fil-a of the camera industry. as far as i am concerned, the good people at really right stuff can aim their politically charged boom poles in a direction that teaches them a little more about human physiology...
@@punkrachmaninoff Totally understand. I'm concerned about the influence that companies have over the political process in the US. I need to stay away from politics on this channel for practical reasons but I completely understand your point of view. I've given some thought to how I might handle this in the future. Thanks again.
I think it's amazing that you made a 20 minute video about boom poles and that I am this excited to watch a 20 minute video about boom poles.
Hahaha! Agreed!
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Everytime I search something to research it,...... Curtis pops up. LOVE THIS GUY!!!!!!
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Curtis is the audio man!
Did I really just watch a 20-minute video on boom poles?
Of Course I did! Thank you Curtis, very informational.
- Will
Hahaha! You did indeed! Best wishes!
Bottom exit is an interesting choice. I was used to booming on 12 hour days minimum and I can imagine it coming directly out of the bottom. Also, I just realized how blessed I was to get boom poles from my dad as opposed to having to go buy them. These prices. Wowsa!
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I got the Ambient Quickpole QSM which is their premium feature film boom pole and I have to say it is really great. Very smooth and stiff. Compared to my Rode Boom Pole Pro it is night and day, because the Rode Pro does tend to swing a lot earlier and the locking mechanism is really bad.
Together with the Ambient straight cable kit you can also have the cable come out on the side and still have the rubber on the end for resting the pole.
What I do recommend is to get the Rycote PCS-Boom-Connector which does not add a lot of weight but makes for a very fast and easy quick release instead of screwing the mount onto the pole. And finally Ambient offers a soft grip tube which makes gloves a thing of the past.
An alternative to the Rycote windshields are the products from Cinela, which are more lightweight but are custom made to a mic. If you don't need a universal system, the Cinela OSIX2 and COSI-L-20 for the Schoeps CMC6 MK41 are IMHO the better products with a smaller footprint.
Thanks for the details Robert! I'm definitely interested in the Ambient poles when it is time to upgrade.
Is ambient considered high end over the ktek ?
@@creativegreatsvisuals I think it depends on your personal preferences. I've read more positive opinions about Ambient Quickpoles and they are a German company - so I went that route.
I don't wanna downspeak ktek - they make great poles, too.
Great review Curtis, a standard that I have come to expect and appreciate. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Gerry.
Hi Curtis, if you look at the top Knurled knob where the gold coloured 3/8 thread is you can unscrew it completely and then remove the rubber bung/cover on the bottom of the boom pole you will see that you can drop a XLR cable in with out having to unsolder a XLR connector , . This what i tell our students to do instead of rapping the audio cable around the boom pole.hope this helps
Thanks Niall, I assume you're referring to the RODE pole. I'll give that a try. Thanks!
I am running straight quad cable through the Rode. It is designed to have cable through it since there are cutouts on the top and a hole at the bottom. I did solder my own since I prefer to make my own cables. If the internal cable fails you can always cut and just do external cabling. If you are worried about the bottom end XLR connections you can always use a right angle XLR connector, those are about 8 dollars for the Neutrik ones. The Boompole Pro is worth mentioning tho.
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Thanks Curtis! You've seriously been very helpful with the sound side of my small production. Didn't realize we lived in the same state. Hope you got some quality snow this recent ski season!
Thanks Jake.
Don't know if you've reviewed on it but Orca have a product called the OR-17 which is a magnet boom pole holder; works like an absolute dream, I bought one recently and the versatility of it is very impressive, you can attach it your harness or find a sturdy piece of furniture to leave it during lunch. Runs around £70 (probably around $100) but its a good price to pay to save your arms between takes on 15 hour days, also good for Boom ops who don't feel the need to invest in a Sound cart just to have your boom quick fisted
Thanks for alerting me Jack. Didn’t know about this. Looks like an interesting solution to a long-standing issue.
I wish you had included the Røde Boompole Pro: Carbon, internal cable possible, and still less expensive than the other brands in this comparison.
I wish I could afford to buy them all. 😉
@@curtisjudd I imagine Røde will be happy to supply some to you for testing and comparison
@@kylosalvesen Perhaps so!
The owner of Really Right Stuff helped fund a California proposition to ban gay marriage. In a post on Fred Miranda’s site when this became public, he had the audacity to say that his opposition to gay marriage should have no bearing on whether people buy from his company. Indeed, it’s clear from his post that if he could have legally, he would have hidden the company name when he made his donation. Of course, the post is the usual “I have nothing against gay people, but...”
Thanks Rory, didn't know that going into this review. I am not espousing their political beliefs by reviewing these poles.
@@curtisjudd Nor are they asking you to.
with the K-Tek poles, just connect a cable at the bottom and twist it open, untangle the cable with the boom a bit extended and release the knot on top so the cable can spin to its "natural" position, screw it back it and your boom should collapse normally, remember to do the knot at the top
Thanks Carlos!
Thanks for doing this video Curtis. Nobody seems to review boom poles! :)
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I'm just amazed with the fact that some people thought "what if we label our products with the name Really Right Stuff?" and they were ok with it
But the boom poles have been discontinued so they pruned the stuff that wasn't really right.
@@curtisjudd that's sad. Maybe they're just expecting to come up with the Tully Really Right Stuff
You could use a right-angled xlr on the bottom of the K-Tek pole to combat your issue with the weird angles for the cable, I imagine that would be annoying.
You can find Neutrik ones where you can rotate the right angle whichever way you want.
Great video as always too!
Thanks for the suggestion.
I went a silly way recently by simply attaching a Rode mic to a selfie stick and connected the mic to a Wireless GO, worked surprisingly well and recorded directly into my BMPCC4K.
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There are very few reviews on the RRS poles, but I've used their gear on my cameras before. Excellent quality.
Can you tell me about the RRS knuckles? Do they engage without much force or play, and hold well? Is the (looks like) rubber grip solidly attached to the knuckle, or can it work loose?
How's the handling noise on the big pole? Anything unusual for a high-end pole?
Hi Stefan, the knuckles are some of the nicest I've used. Smoother and easy to engage/disengage. I also experienced less twisting of the sections with these knuckles. The rubber seems solid but I suppose only time would tell on that. The handling noise seemed about the same as any K-Tek pole I've used - very much related to the quality of the shock mount you use.
get a 12' (folds down to 6') Jiffyloc pole for $50, and a ProPole painters pole adapter for $20
Definitely an option. How does it do in terms of handling noise?
Next stop, Home Depot.
Thank you Curtis, I have a short K-Tek boom pole only used manually so far. Do these poles really need c-stands or will an ordinary stand make good? And what clamp would work for either/both?
Hi Alan, I haven't attempted to connect them to lighter stands and the holder is designed specifically to be held by a grip head which I've only seen on C-stands. But there may be a way to attach one of these to a lighter stand.
i think a good fix for cable sloshing is foam insulation. also the right angle female socket coming out of the pole just need a male right angle xlr going into it and then taping off with some slack and your safe from snagging the socket.
Thanks for the tips!
@@curtisjudd just a thought im not trying to give you advice. thankyou for all your vey helpful work Curtis. im trying to break into sound for video but even with a long background in music its difficult at best. im enjoying the learning curve though.
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The ultra budget option is to pick up a painters/window cleaners extension pole for under $10 for a 6' to lengths like 24' for around $55. Then there are paint pole to selfie stick adapters that cost around $16 to $40 (depending on features) and adapt that to hold a mic, and while this can be done DIY for less, for basically $26 to $71 one can have a perfectly good 6' to 24' boom pole. People can even get them in carbon fiber at lengths up to 54 feet, but at that length it will run around $1500. (ridiculous, but not a bad price)
Thanks Bill.
@@curtisjudd There is one issue I didn't mention. and that would be making sure they use a standard painters pole screw thread. While many painters poles do, the window cleaners poles can vary because they often pipe water to the head, but there are plenty out there that use the standard painters pole screw. Many brooms also uses theses as well. making getting a 3'-4' boom almost as easy as driving to a local supermarket.
Very cool demonstration. Liked the shock mount microphone with cover. My back hurts just looking at trying to carry, hold any of those boom arms. Would not last during a 15hr day.
Fortunately, there's a lot of down time between takes. 👍
Great video. I know I can always come to you for tips and gear for audio recording for film. I'm a happy subscriber.
Thanks Todd.
I have personally had really terrible experiences with both of those K-Tek poles. I've used at least two that had the internal XLR's break inside them. I even had the misfortune of having a rather terrible boom operator (I'm not trying to be harsh, but unfortunately he did not care about putting forth effort) use one and then at the end of the day produce no audio thanks to the broken internal cable. Of course, you can replace it, but I have just had a better time wrapping the cable around the pole and I've seen quite a few other operators do the same. Once I outgrow my current pole by Neewer (awesome by the way) I'll consider purchasing another K-Tek or Really Right Stuff.
Thanks for sharing. They are definitely prone to issues in the hands of someone who doesn't know how to operate them. Totally makes sense.
I have the rode pole aswell. i hate it due to the weight of it. Got a Rode Micro Pole, weighs in at 300 grams and has a reach of 2,5m. It is my go to boom ever since (unless it is a wide shot). Did buy a Boya BP-BY25 boom pole and must say i was quite impressed at first. But i ended up sending it back. Just now editing a review of it!
Think i will check the k-tek airo out next!
But hey, the RRS are really good looking. Kinda too heavy though.
Thanks for the info, noys!
Hi Mr.pro ,.good review as usual ..BTW the Rode one you said that you can't run cables inside ... although I did so with mine there is a notch at the rubber bottom cap and at the brass spiral top thread ... unplug them and run your cable ...just have a close look ... thanks
Thanks.
Thanks for the info on the shock mount because I surely thought I was gonna be booming with that little pistol grip that came with my deity 😭 don't mind spending the 600 or something close if it's what I need.
👍 there may be some less expensive options like the RODE Blimp as well.
@@curtisjudd yeah I'm going to research some, that's something I wasn't really paying attention to as far as the quality of the shock mount. Was so fixed on the pole
Bottom exit boom, right angle XLR cable end.
Mic "don't" drop!
No I have not thought about this very much as I keep going back and forth to my wishlists at B&H.
I got to do some official sound work on a small project and used one of the camera guys equipment and I loved it. but that got me thinking about what kind of boom pole I would want to get... I like the integrated cables but then there's user-replaceablety in case something goes wrong. and which way the cable comes out I liked being able to rest the pole so side mount would be better but then it's more complex and expensive.
Totally understand, it is a tough call. I prefer my side exit K-Tek more than my end exit K-Tek for the very reason you cited: ability to rest its end on the ground between takes.
@@curtisjudd I prefer the side mount but I don't prefer the price almost double sometimes. A right angle XLR cable would to do the trick of improving bottom mount booms or something like this XLR Angle Adapter www.amazon.com/dp/B073X2SDMJ/?coliid=IZ8VGOVF689F2&colid=1RP2FTOWJRHYP&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
The good news for me is I have to wait for a reason and cash flow to justify a purchase. The neewer one looked both in my price range and well made, but sadly lacks an opportunity to use in 2020.
Hi Curtis,
I don't see a link to the Rycote products you discussed. Would you please consider sending a link to the pistol grip you discussed?
Thanks,
Sean
Hi Sean, Added to the description. Sorry about the confusion.
I’m grabbing the KTek from your link now... I got the 416 shotgun mic already with MixPre... Which Wireless Mics To you recommend with the mixpre?
I hope the K-Tek works well for you! Which wireless depends on budget and how many channels you need and how critical they are for your work. I use the Audio Ltd A10 wireless system. It is excellent but definitely on the expensive side. A more affordable option is the Sennheiser G4 system.
Curtis Judd I was looking at the G4 with an upgrade to the Tram Lav as opposed to the ME2, what do you think?
@@BobbyWashingtonvlog I think that's good!
Curtis Judd awesome.... thank you so much for all your help... you really got me where I needed to be and dip wise... 2 last questions, have you ever seen a feature done with shotgun mic exclusively and no wireless system? Also Have you seen anyone in the industry use the Seenheiser G4 on a movie that made it to either theaters or Netflix?
Hey Curtis, thanks for another great in depth video. Would you be able to send me a link for the piece of gear you use to hold your boom pool on the stand above your talent? Currently I use a small rig attachment to a c-stand arm, but I like your set up. Thank you.
Hi Herbie, that's the Neewer boom pole holder for C-stands (Amazon affiliate link): geni.us/8jAgAst
Hi, what is your opinion on the Cyclone vs the Blimp wind protection systems from Rycote? I've seen the Cyclone's being used more and more it seems but i'm wondering what the difference in the two systems really is. Maybe an idea for a video? Anyway, love your stuff! Your videos always manage to capture me, I've learned a lot from you.Thank you!
Hi DSNL, I own the Cyclone and have used the RODE Blimp and similar Rycote wind shields. The main reason I went with the Cyclone over the others is that it is much more convenient and quick. What I mean by that is that you can open the cover and access or change out the microphone more quickly with the cyclone. In addition, it seems to provide more wind protection before needing to add a fur cover to it. I hope that makes sense and thanks for the question!
@@curtisjudd Awesome, thank you!
Curtis, what is that XLR cable you have on your mic in the cyclone kit? The red one, it looks so neat and compact
Hi Zenavesta, that came with the Cyclone. I recently had to replace it because I destroyed the original and it cost about $75. 😮
@@curtisjudd 😮😮okay, thanks man
Does Really Right Stuff still make boom poles? Can't find any mention on their website...
No, they cancelled the line. There were several design flaws pointed out by pro boom ops so RRS cancelled the product line and stayed focused on camera support.
@@curtisjudd Hmmm, maybe too hard to break into the boom pole market for the ROI then. Tripods/monopods obviously have a much larger market than mic booms being much more specialized.
That RRS travel boom looks really nice. Seems like something I "need".
Unfortunately it seems like they don't really have their stuff for sale in Europe. It's very odd since all their stuff is so great.
I think they actually stopped making boom poles.
@@curtisjudd Just my damn luck ;)
What boom pole stand do you recommend for talking head videos in my office? Thanks.
These boom poles here are really made for hand held use. You can use them on a stand, of course, but they're rather overkill and expensive for that purpose. I don't know how much boom reach you need, but a stage boom mic stand - the $30 stands you see on stage for musical performances - should do just fine. If you need a longer reach, that may be a big jump in price.
@@curtisjudd Thanks!
Is there a way to set up a K-Tek pole like the RRS pole with the cage and rear XLR? I’m getting ready to buy my first professional pole. The RRS looks amazing but the price point is to high at this point in my experience.
The K-Tek Klassic line of boom poles does have the cable exit cage option but I don't believe it has the 1/4" or 3/8" screw taps to attach a wireless transmitter. So you'd need to either attach the TX at the top of the pole or find your own solution for mounting it at the bottom of the pole. Best wishes!
Hey Curtis, question:
I used to boom in my film school using gloves, but my classmate said that it's mainly useless. I personally feel that using padded gloves like weight lifting gloves somewhat reduce the sound of handling a boompole, what's your take on that?
I say do what gives you better results. Plenty of pro boom ops use gloves.
Great Video! Now i know what i need to pay attention to.
Does anybody know what kind of mic that is in the upper left? I've seen these Mics couple of times in bts footage but i could'nt find out what they exactly are. Thak's :)
That's the Sennheiser MKH8050: ruclips.net/video/RYWD5wI6B9k/видео.html
Dayum, those seem pricey for what they are. Re: the smaller K-Tek, considering the size difference, what would your thoughts be on sticking a low profile 90 degree metal XLR adapter onto the bottom of it? Maybe even one with a short cable so that you could tape the male output to the bottom of the handle.
That’d be ok, but I’d still be concerned about the strain placed on the connectors when resting on the 90 degree angle.
Hey Curtis, your videos are typically quite nice. I just wanted to share that sometimes I find them a bit too long. It would be nice maybe to shorten them just a little bit. That said, nice job there!
Thanks Pedro. That's why I put the summary at the start - short and sweet for people who aren't THAT interested, long for those who want all the details. Don't be afraid to stop after the summary if the topic isn't for you. Thanks for the feedback!
Cool. I had no idea those guys were here around us. A bit pricey for most of the stuff I do. Are they out of SLC?
Hi Kreigh, They're in Lehi. They moved from California a little over a year ago.
Thanks Dean for the review.
Have you taken up production sound and boom op work?! 😀
Kinda
Hey Curtis! Wondering if you still are using the RRS boom poles? Or what your go-to boom pole is these days. THANKS!
Hi Vince, I borrowed the RRS poles for a couple of months to make this review. But they didn't convince me to buy them over my K-Tek Avalon so I'm still using those.
@@curtisjudd Thanks for the speedy reply and your expertise as always!
@@curtisjudd have you had any issues with tightening the knuckles? I just got a 110CCR and I really have to tighten mine so that I can release and extend other sections.
@@darenfoh No issues. I leave a bit of each section extended which makes tightening each easy.
@@curtisjudd I’ve tried that too and I still have to really crank down on a couple of sections
Aaaaaahhhh yeeeaaaaahhhh!
Here comes the BOOOM!
Here it is!
Maybe I’m lazy and missed it, but what is the “holder” you’re using? Where can I buy that?
B&H has this: bhpho.to/2qFE3xi
You did not compare the Rode boompole pro...carbon fiber unit...which is the only one to get from Rode if you want a quality boompole. The one you used to compare is a bit of a POS. The Rode pro goes for about $299.00.
Thanks for the info on the RRS.
Stu Schnurman
Bic Raven
Thanks Stu for the info on the RODE Boompole Pro. Unfortunately I didn't have the budget to include others in the comparison here but this is good info to know. Thanks again.
You can avoid cable slap noise by using a wireless transmitter and receiver.
Except if you are using a cardioid or super cardioid mic, ( for interior dialogue), which need phantom power, and almost never com with internal AA battery capability,..at least not the affordable ones.
True, as long as the pole doesn't have an internal cable. You could potentially remove the cable from any of these.
Get an Ambient pole and never look back ^^
I had a chance to handle one for a few minutes at NAB a couple of years ago. They seem really nice.
I can't find the "hair balls"! Where can i find them?
I added a link to the description for you.
Would u take the rode boom pole or the airo from k-tek??
Great question. I haven't used the Airo so I'm not sure. I'm guessing that a pole from a company who specializes in boom poles might be a better option, but I don't have first hand experience to say for sure.
Million thanks. I’m a hobby film maker and start to think putting some investment on audio.
Would a good shock mount and a wireless unit such as the deity hd tx recorder be good to attach to alleviate the wire rumbling.
Yes, though I've struggled to get a signal without too much self-noise with the Connect system. Usually I want the boom sound to be as clean as possible as it is the primary sound source and I rely on the wireless lavaliers to be backup to the boom
I love your channel, keep doing this, you help us a lot!!
I have a doubt Curtis, I am gonna buy a microphone and I do not know which would be better for my purposes. I need a micro for voice (interviewds) and sound efects. My budget is around 300$, my options are deity d3 pro (location kit) or Rode Ntg4+ (xlr to jack). I would like to connect them via wireless with my rode wireless go. What do you think Curtis, which one could be better
I’d probably go with the D3 Pro since it has a 3.5mm output which will work with the Wireless GO.
@@curtisjudd thank you very much for your help! 💪🏻
Top video. Thanks a million
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I was drawn in by the thumbnail. Can you talk a little about that setul as a whole, please?
Hi adsertheblade - that is a c-stand with a boom holder and the RRS boom pole. Links are in the description for the holder and pole. C-stands are available at B&H, Amazon and any other film gear retailer.
@@curtisjudd thanks
FYI Google is giving a security warning to the site in your links here.
For my online school? Hmm, not getting that on my end.
I have 2 Panamic poles, seems to be the BBC standard issue in the UK haha.
Interesting, hadn't heard of Panamic. Thanks for mentioning them.
15:38, that sinister chuckle
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What about GITZO ?
Haven't tried their poles - didn't know they had any!
That boom pole is 900$ I'm gonna buy one
They stopped making them. It's ok, I like the K-tek.
When did you move to Park City? I thought you were up near Logan.
Also, was it me, or did your last shot seem to pan slightly to the left?
I’m just outside of Park City, haven’t moved. There wasn’t an intentional pan, will need to go back and look at that.
@@curtisjudd that is so weird! I just rewatched the last bit, and I didn't notice it panning, but I could have sworn that it was on my first viewing. It must have been my TV that was doing it.
I wish you were my mentor :)
I'm one of your online mentors. 😀
Good stuff as always. The carbon RODE Pro boom is much much better than the first aluminium version.
On my boompole I use a external canare cable L-2E5; so thin, so light, so good.
In France, pros use VDB boompoles almost exclusively.
www.vdbaudio.com/index.php?mode=products&type=cat&id=24
Thanks for the info, Bruno!
i AM UTTERLY AGHAST at the prices of some of these poles........ sheesh
The RODE may be a good option.
Also I'm just gonna say you have about 5000$ in this top down view I'd hire you over anyone
LOL! Thanks.
RØDE also have a Carbon Fibre pole: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1183906-REG/rode_boompole_pro_carbon_fibre_5_section_pro.html
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I jump the video a little bit to have a quick view, then every time I jump, I saw the stick move a little bit, funny~~~
Yes, I moved them about a bit while talking about them.
what ever happened to speaking in FEET!! Lol Meters?? Curtis you are in America right? or maybe not
Most of the audience is outside of the US, but here's a converter in case you need it: www.metric-conversions.org/length/feet-to-meters.htm
I don't want to start an argument but I find metric system to be easier and more accurate
"really right stuff" is a repulsive company, as a creative professional i refuse to buy ANYTHING from them. instead, i will spend my money on companies without toxic politics...
I just googled and I assume you are referring to RRS’s support of California Proposition 8 in 2008? I would like to be clear that reviewing their boom poles is not an indication that I espouse their political views. Thanks for pointing this out so everyone can make a decision which reflects their personal beliefs.
Seems to me that they are a company dedicated to making properly useful stuff for photographers and the extended universe of cinematographers.
To each their own opinion (company heads, employees and customers included), but I am fully in support of a company breaking the mold by their engineering prowess.
@@curtisjudd yeah, i appreciate your position (AND all your hard work) curtis. unfortunately i don't think it is cricket for corporations to espouse political beliefs -- especially political beliefs that are actively repressive of egalitarian human rights. they are the chick-fil-a of the camera industry.
as far as i am concerned, the good people at really right stuff can aim their politically charged boom poles in a direction that teaches them a little more about human physiology...
They seem like a perfectly reasonable company to me...I'd be proud to do business with 😋😋😋
@@punkrachmaninoff Totally understand. I'm concerned about the influence that companies have over the political process in the US. I need to stay away from politics on this channel for practical reasons but I completely understand your point of view. I've given some thought to how I might handle this in the future. Thanks again.