Great video and great timing. Just removed my airlayers two days ago and 5/6 have rooted so very happy with that just one stubborn apple that has loads of callus but no roots second year running. Will try keep it a bit drier next year and more free draining medium around it. Thanks for the lesson and advice!
Again a very understandable interesting video. I am really interested in getting updates of the trees you did in the beginning of your RUclips carreer. Please update the big deciduous trees from back then.👍👍👍
It has been some time since I touched them, but autumn will be the time I get them on the turn table. I’m looking forward to it so don’t worry I won’t forget! 👍
One of THE BEST videos I’ve ever seen about air layers, really in depth and covering several useful points. Although Peter Chan first taught me how to air layer my attemps have always been unsuccessful. Thanks Daren, love from Sweden! :))
Great bit of tree biology, superbly presented and simply explained Darren 👍 I have been guilty in the past of sphagnum moss remaining too wet and getting lots of callous but little or no roots. I have a biggish trident maple air layer separation pending in the next week that looked very promising when I last checked. The recent warm, wet weather will have helped.
Awesome video! Love the format, great stuff!! You mentioned all the problems I've had in the past so, for me, this was really on point. Have a nice one and keep it up! thumbs up!
This video is timed perfectly!! I saw a beautiful japanese maple on sale at my local garden center, and it is dirt cheap for it being taller than 1.7m tall😮 so I've been contemplating whether or not to buy it and then air layer it shorter to the tree I want, and then also scoring more trees from one plant 😂😂thanks for your help! Love your videos 🎉🎉
Darren, awesome advice, mate. I've got a couple that failed, and spring has only just started here in Australia . The areas are starting leaf out so I will try again. Cheers from down under mate
I've heard cuttings are tricky too, but at least you can play the numbers game - a 2% success rate is still a new plant if you pop 50 in some soil right!
Great vid mate, would love to see an update on all of your trees, cant remember if youve done a walk around/tour of them before, but would definitely be keen to see them warts an all!
Great video. I have airlayered about 18 tress this year (mostly fruit trees) for the first time ever. And my success rate is zero. Maybe I made mistake I did that in the midlle of summer. And this summer was really hot. So 0% success rate so far :(
Enjoyed this video Darren. Not a subject easily found on youtube and you caught it. You should check out my video on advanced airlayering in which I demonstrated on a malus royalty.. the technique helped to form roots all around the incision made..
@@grobonsai it's a method I have been practicing for the last couple of years and it has improved the number of roots formed on a number of tree species. Never really been successful on a malus until recently, they definitely take there time to start producing roots
Hi Darren, I've done a ground layer on a shohin elm. It did great for a month but then lost all its leaves. They just dried out. The original roots are still alive and it has some roots starting to grow from the layering point. Its still alive, but hasn't produced any new leafs for a month or so. What could be the best course of action here? Leave it and hope for new leafs next spring? Of maybe cut it off in winter, soak it, add hormone, pot it up and hope for the best in spring?
Thanks for the video. Great info. I have an air layer with excess callus and no roots from last year. Can I just redo the airlayer at the same spot this year with better soil? Thanks.
You have a choice. You can either cut above the callus and restart, or leave it in place but use an airy substrate. I do the latter - leave it and repack. With the trident I tried cutting into the callus but it rotted. Still got roots but not very radial
I’ve recently tried multiple air layers on a very large garden Japanese maple. Three air layers on one branch. No roots at any of them. I’m leaning towards them being too wet for root formation but I’d be interested to know if you think the multiple on one branch approach was too much? Either way I’ll be re cutting the girdle to try again :)
As long as each layer has plenty of foliage above, I'd say your instinct is right. If each layer doesn't have much foliage to photosynthesise, that could be the reason. it is possible to do multiple air layers on a ground grown tree, but I try to keep them on separate branches. Good luck, hope they root soon
Thanks mate, quality stuff, I have a crab apples and black thorn trees in my garden, when’s the best time to do an air layer on the more mature trees with thicker branches?
This spring I air layerd 3 apple branches, 1 pare tree branch, 1 orange branch. I used spagmam moss, rooting hormone, wrapped with plastic and tinfoil to create shade from sun. Mid summer I checked on them but they callused over the cut. To much water. Traded half of the moss with dry moss. In the end of the summer had roots, cut them off, put them in a grated pot with water tray they now have a couple of leaves. Just worried that because I separated them from the mother plants late and the weather is already very cold they might not survive the winter. Only time will tell.
Yes, you may decide to insulate it with bubble wrap or similar. There’s no guarantee it will survive, but they do tend to be resilient to cold due to the build up of sugars in the vascular system
LOL, if it wasn't for the fact that my dad, a professional forester with The Forestery Commission for 30 years, told me air layering was possible, I'd believe that it was a myth. In my seventy years I have never had a successful air layer.
Another fellow bonsai guy who posts vids here also has never had a success with air layering! It’s quite bizarre how results can vary wildly when we’re all exploiting the same physiological process
My air layer has a few good strong roots on one side but has scabbed and bridged over on the opposite side. Its fall/autumn now and I dont know if I should remove it or not. It is a chinese holly bush
Unless it’s packed with roots I would leave it on but re-cut and remove the roots in spring, hoping for a better result. Either way leaving it attached won’t do any harm, but it is definitely possible to sever too soon. As a general rule you can remove when there are enough roots and aftercare will be manageable, or when the parent has stopped supporting the air layer. You can tell that because new buds will grow below the air layer location, or there is dieback
Thanks. Very useful and timely vid as we come into the Australian Spring/Summer.
Excellent! Thanks for watching
Great video and great timing. Just removed my airlayers two days ago and 5/6 have rooted so very happy with that just one stubborn apple that has loads of callus but no roots second year running. Will try keep it a bit drier next year and more free draining medium around it. Thanks for the lesson and advice!
Good luck Greg! 5/6 is still a great result
Again a very understandable interesting video. I am really interested in getting updates of the trees you did in the beginning of your RUclips carreer. Please update the big deciduous trees from back then.👍👍👍
It has been some time since I touched them, but autumn will be the time I get them on the turn table. I’m looking forward to it so don’t worry I won’t forget! 👍
One of THE BEST videos I’ve ever seen about air layers, really in depth and covering several useful points.
Although Peter Chan first taught me how to air layer my attemps have always been unsuccessful.
Thanks Daren, love from Sweden! :))
Wow thanks so much, I’m honoured 🤝
Best video I have seen on air layering! Great work sir!
Wow thanks man, appreciate it!
Smashing video, very informative. Nicely done 👍
Thanks for supporting the channel
Great video Darren. Not much more could be added to this one - hits the spot :)
Thanks Xavier!
Great bit of tree biology, superbly presented and simply explained Darren 👍
I have been guilty in the past of sphagnum moss remaining too wet and getting lots of callous but little or no roots.
I have a biggish trident maple air layer separation pending in the next week that looked very promising when I last checked. The recent warm, wet weather will have helped.
Cheers Jason, glad to hear your trident is popping!
Fave Bonsai RUclipsr is back again!
Thanks Jack!! I'm back and hungry :D
Awesome video! Love the format, great stuff!!
You mentioned all the problems I've had in the past so, for me, this was really on point.
Have a nice one and keep it up! thumbs up!
Glad it helps - thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
forget Bonsai :) as a tree surgeon I shared this on Facebook I think most of your video is directly transferable to grown up trees :)
Thanks I really appreciate it
This video is timed perfectly!! I saw a beautiful japanese maple on sale at my local garden center, and it is dirt cheap for it being taller than 1.7m tall😮 so I've been contemplating whether or not to buy it and then air layer it shorter to the tree I want, and then also scoring more trees from one plant 😂😂thanks for your help! Love your videos 🎉🎉
It’s a great tactic to get more trees! Air layer in spring when the first leaves have matured and you’re golden
@@grobonsai that time is now!!! I'm so excited!!!
Darren, awesome advice, mate.
I've got a couple that failed, and spring has only just started here in Australia .
The areas are starting leaf out so I will try again.
Cheers from down under mate
Good luck Shane mate, thanks for watching
One of the best A.L. videos!
Excellent break down on airlayers!
Thanks 🙏
Hmmm, sounds like my Hawthorn "Crimson Cloud" was too wet then 😢 Thanks so much for this Darren, lovely clear explanation xx
They are a variety that is difficult to root, so might’ve been ok water-wise
@@grobonsai do you think cuttings might be easier to strike?
I've heard cuttings are tricky too, but at least you can play the numbers game - a 2% success rate is still a new plant if you pop 50 in some soil right!
Thanks for all the tips! They are super helpful and informative. 👍👍
Thanks for watching
Great vid mate, would love to see an update on all of your trees, cant remember if youve done a walk around/tour of them before, but would definitely be keen to see them warts an all!
Cheers, a tour is definitely on the list of priorities. I’ll see if I can get it done this month before the rains turn the grass into a swamp!
Super helpful! Love your videos
This has been very helpful, thank you.
Great video. I have airlayered about 18 tress this year (mostly fruit trees) for the first time ever. And my success rate is zero. Maybe I made mistake I did that in the midlle of summer. And this summer was really hot. So 0% success rate so far :(
Enjoyed this video Darren. Not a subject easily found on youtube and you caught it.
You should check out my video on advanced airlayering in which I demonstrated on a malus royalty.. the technique helped to form roots all around the incision made..
Interesting result from what I could see, especially on a side branch.
@@grobonsai it's a method I have been practicing for the last couple of years and it has improved the number of roots formed on a number of tree species. Never really been successful on a malus until recently, they definitely take there time to start producing roots
PERFECT! THANKS! 🙏
Thank you!
Great info, brother
Thanks bro
Super helpful! 👏
Great!
Hi Darren, I've done a ground layer on a shohin elm. It did great for a month but then lost all its leaves. They just dried out. The original roots are still alive and it has some roots starting to grow from the layering point. Its still alive, but hasn't produced any new leafs for a month or so. What could be the best course of action here? Leave it and hope for new leafs next spring? Of maybe cut it off in winter, soak it, add hormone, pot it up and hope for the best in spring?
I think leave it and see, if the layer won’t make it, turning it into a cutting will definitely fail.
@@grobonsaialright thanks! We'll see. It's just a little project, but it would be nice if it makes it.
Thanks for sharing I think I have my moss to wet just subscribed
Thanks for the watch, comment and sub!
Thanks for the video. Great info. I have an air layer with excess callus and no roots from last year. Can I just redo the airlayer at the same spot this year with better soil? Thanks.
You have a choice. You can either cut above the callus and restart, or leave it in place but use an airy substrate. I do the latter - leave it and repack. With the trident I tried cutting into the callus but it rotted. Still got roots but not very radial
I’ve recently tried multiple air layers on a very large garden Japanese maple. Three air layers on one branch. No roots at any of them. I’m leaning towards them being too wet for root formation but I’d be interested to know if you think the multiple on one branch approach was too much?
Either way I’ll be re cutting the girdle to try again :)
As long as each layer has plenty of foliage above, I'd say your instinct is right. If each layer doesn't have much foliage to photosynthesise, that could be the reason. it is possible to do multiple air layers on a ground grown tree, but I try to keep them on separate branches. Good luck, hope they root soon
Thanks mate, quality stuff, I have a crab apples and black thorn trees in my garden, when’s the best time to do an air layer on the more mature trees with thicker branches?
Optimum is late spring once the foliage hardens off. Remove the fruit and remaining flowers from the branch if you can
Cheers dude, i didn’t know if bigger branches meant different timings, also I wondered where the other comment went on that video 🤣🤣
This spring I air layerd 3 apple branches, 1 pare tree branch, 1 orange branch. I used spagmam moss, rooting hormone, wrapped with plastic and tinfoil to create shade from sun. Mid summer I checked on them but they callused over the cut. To much water. Traded half of the moss with dry moss. In the end of the summer had roots, cut them off, put them in a grated pot with water tray they now have a couple of leaves. Just worried that because I separated them from the mother plants late and the weather is already very cold they might not survive the winter. Only time will tell.
Great result! I think orange should not freeze. They should be fine - good luck
Rule of thumb. The size of the cut has to be the size of the thickness of branch. If its not it won't work.
I forgot to talk about size of the cut, good point
Thank you .Can I leave the airlayer on a garden rododendron over winter? I live in Sweden and its cold winters here.
Yes, you may decide to insulate it with bubble wrap or similar. There’s no guarantee it will survive, but they do tend to be resilient to cold due to the build up of sugars in the vascular system
@@grobonsai Thank you so much. I made the layering to late, so it has Very few thin roots.🌺
LOL, if it wasn't for the fact that my dad, a professional forester with The Forestery Commission for 30 years, told me air layering was possible, I'd believe that it was a myth. In my seventy years I have never had a successful air layer.
Another fellow bonsai guy who posts vids here also has never had a success with air layering! It’s quite bizarre how results can vary wildly when we’re all exploiting the same physiological process
@@grobonsai LOL, we're hopeless
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My air layer has a few good strong roots on one side but has scabbed and bridged over on the opposite side. Its fall/autumn now and I dont know if I should remove it or not. It is a chinese holly bush
Unless it’s packed with roots I would leave it on but re-cut and remove the roots in spring, hoping for a better result. Either way leaving it attached won’t do any harm, but it is definitely possible to sever too soon. As a general rule you can remove when there are enough roots and aftercare will be manageable, or when the parent has stopped supporting the air layer. You can tell that because new buds will grow below the air layer location, or there is dieback