As many of y'all have pointed out, you are correct, I got my seasons mixed up with Eberflus. The 3-14 season/10-game losing streak was his first year. No. 1 pick last year threw my brain off (points still stand with Flus). Gotta go back to the tape and be better for my teammates, the fans, and the city.
I agree with a lot of the thought process in the draft. But let’s say Ben Johnson is the coach. I could see Ashton Jeanty being the surprise pick like Gibbs was
The Bears were actually 7-10 last year… their Number 1 pick was actually the Carolina Panthers pick. The Bears lost 10 straight games 2 season ago… when they started an intentional rebuild.
Funny to hear you guys talk about Bruce Arians… Bears had a chance to hire him but passed for Marc Trestman. One of countless examples of Bears finding a way to Bears 😂
For a 5th round pick, Braxton is a huge success story. However, he's is still getting beat by the bullrush, still missing a handful of games each year due to various injuries, and still causing a lot of boneheaded penalties. I'll be ecstatic if we draft a LT high.
Sounds like the top tackles project more as guards in NFL….At least for 1st round for Bears who will pick top 10 for sure unless we win some tough games down the stretch. Maybe the 2nd rounders r a better spot to take OL. Also hoping Kiran can develop nicely as LT
@@eldiablony274 i mean, like Josh Conorly and Josh simmons if they're there would be fine picks, even Cameron williams or Jude Bowry given the right development plan. it's worth saying a lot of these "Projections" inside are debatable given a lot of those names are playing some fine tackle atm. i'd happily take a Zabel, or Savallnaea, or Charles grant, as a tackle and let them fail their way to guard. i wouldn't surprise me if several of this "projections" stuck/ thrives at tackle. no ones really lacking tools in all fairness.
Bears fan, easily if Banks/Campbell are there at our 1 that feels like a sprint to the podium pick. They may or may not be homeruns but easily OL 1 & 2 and both can play guard (which we need). Deep DL/Edge class means with high 2nd rnd picks we can grab that then. Starks or maybe favorite DL/ED comes into play if both those OL are gone, but we need to spend a top 50 pick on IOL for sure for future building even if they don't step in immediately. All in all, I think this would be an absolute slam dunk offseason (especially FA & Draft). Crushed it imo, love the work guys! And looking forward to fixing more franchises (taking teams from chumps to chiefs) and especially more draft coverage. Best to you both and you all
As a life long Bears fan, I’ve seen a lot! We need a quick shifty jitter-bug with speed. Then we will have the best wideout room in the nfl. We kinda have him on the bench. But he’s on the bench. Round 3 -4 or 4 million a year max
The O-line is the obvious need (replace everyone that is not Wright), but Im surprised at the lack of discussion around Edge. Our pass rush has been terrible this year with Sweat hurt / not playing as well and Booker hasnt done much to make me think hes a long-term starter. I wouldnt be surprised if they go Edge in R1 or R2
45:16 Braxton hasn't gotten stronger which leads to him getting beat on at least 1-2 bull rushes a game in pass pro, but the rest of the game he's solid. Great 5th round pick.
Hey guys Bears Fan here. Been watching/listening to you guys for a bit and love your content and analysis(you guys made me really look deeper and understand the draft and scouting side of the game I enjoy watching). Here are my takes on the Bears. -When Flus got hired I was skeptical like I would have loved Brian Daboll at the time but I knew Indy’s Defense was great so I thought that Flus would be good at HC. However, he was just at best mediocre and at worst atrocious. Granted the mess he and Poles had to clean up it was no wonder they went 3-14. But the second year, there was signs of greatness especially with the defense so I understand why they keep Flus for this year. But the written was on the wall especially with all the one score games we lost due to being too passive or just incompetent. I’m happy with the Bears being proactive and firing him when we did. And I do have faith in Ryan Poles and Kevin Warren. -For HC I 100% agree we need that CEO leader for our team and doesn’t matter really what side of the ball they have speciality in(I prefer offense tho). I like the Vrabel choice especially with the coordinators you guys chose and I would scream if we somehow got Kyle Shanahan but that is a huge stretch. Some other options I thought of is Thomas Brown(if these next 5 games are impressive since he is the reason our offense has looked actually viable), Kevin Stefanski would be intriguing if Cleveland lets go of him or if he wants out, and a curveball that I wouldn’t be opposed to of Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame, he has done really well at Notre Dame and was drafted by us a long time ago(would be a good story at least). -For core players I have; Offense: Caleb Williams,DJ Moore,Rome Odunze,Darnell Wright, and Cole Kmet(he is a good leader and has been improving every year) and Defense: Jaylon Johnson,Montez Sweat,Kyler Gordon,Jaquan Brisker,TJ Edwards. In FA I agree with your takes that we need to get IOL as a priority and WR3 if we don’t retain Keenan. For the draft it depends on how the board turns out, if Campbell and Banks are off the board by the time we pick then we should go Edge but obviously if one or both are available then get one of them to play G and get Edge in the 2nd. Safety,Tight End,Defensive Tackle I would like for the Bears to address this year for the future but the trenches is where we have heavily invest in now to make us better in the long turn to try and take the North back. Anyways thanks for the amazing content
The fact that it happened in primetime on Thanksgiving against the best team in the NFL? I cant think of a more notable emd of game failure translating to an immediate head coach firing in recent memory. The last thing I can remember of any caliber like this was where Greg Williams sent a cover-0 blitz against the Raiders in like a five-point game with seconds left on the clock in a game to decide draft positioning for Trevor Lawrence, Derek Carr beat it and won the game, and he got fired the next day by Adam Gase. Even then, that was a coordinator, a head coach being fired over something like that I genuinely cannot remember.
Braxton Jones has been solid. He’s not elite but our major issues with the O-line have been on the interior. I actually really like the idea of drafting a LT and kicking him into guard.
If you watch any of the games, bears need to improve the pass rush… need to prioritize that 2nd to offensive line. Love what you did for the O-line. Pass rusher please! Over a RB and TE. Gracias
Lifelong bears fan with several thoughts -Braxton jones is a serviceable tackle who feels like good depth and he wouldn’t stop me from upgrading -interior of this o line needs to be strong with all the Rodgers/Mahomes comps Caleb garners -I’ll personally carry the duffel of cash to get Shanahan - ownership is a problem.McCaskey family isn’t serious about operating like the modern nfl does and still acts like 1985 was last year. My dad was 25 years old when the bears won the Super Bowl and wouldn’t meet my mom for 3 more FULL calendar years so you can forget that I was but a twinkle in his eye talk -please add a center. Bears haven’t had a good one since Olin Kruetz left and that happened when I was a sophomore in high school… 16 years ago!! The bear’s ineptitude at center can legally drive a car
Idk if I want Kyle for 2 1sts but agree with much of what you’ve said. I like Braxton Jones. Curious how many pressures he’s given up. I want to solidify interior. If we can improve at Tackle, great.
@ I bet we could get something done for Shanahan with a swap of our firsts this year since we’ll be within a few picks of one another and then add in our 2nd this year and some filler in 2026. Braxton has lost me since he’s 3 years in and still can’t handle the bull rush
@PandaSenpai48 I honestly don't consider Swift a key piece. He's had some nice moments, some solid games. But I think he can be easily replaced from a talent perspective, I'd love to see the Bears draft a RB early to complement him and increase his longevity.
The best options as I can see them are as follows. Todd Monken: He's a seasoned coach who knows how to win, and he's tied to some big names. If he could hire Dan Lanning as DC that would be huge. Thomas Brown: He's had head coaching nods in the past. He's built good rapport with our players, and he's stepped up to every challenge. If Eric Washington doesn't work out as DC he's connected to Ejiro Evero. Mike Vrable: A proven track record as a HC, but it's hard to say who would be on his staff. Ben Johnson: Really solid play caller, but there's some unknowns. Tied to Lou Anarumo who would be an excellent DC for us.
As a LONG time Bears fan, we have been spoiled with great running backs. IF we sign TWO stud FA guards and the board falls this way, I'm taking Jeanty all day long. The man doesn't go down and he's a beast. Running game will be Caleb's best friend. There's alot of 'IF's'... lol
Bears top needs: IOL, DE, RB, S, IDL, TE. They desperately need to add vets via FA to the IOL, very happy if they get Trey Smith and Ryan Kelly. Draft wise, if Mason Graham is somehow staring them in the face when they're on the clock he must be the pick. Other hopeful options available would be Will Campbell, Kelvin Banks, Abdul Carter, Nic Scourton, James Pearce; the pick is either OL or DL. If Omarion Hampton is there in the second round would love to see him added, RB is very much a need. If they go OL in the first, DE is pretty much a necessity in the second and there will be plenty of options there. I don't know if they pay DE in FA; they paid Sweat already and when they could've paid one last FA (Hunter, Greenard) they elected not to, plus they need to pay for IOL. I'd love to see them trade back in the second. Last draft, someone traded back in the second for a later second, a fourth, and a second next year. Bears are going to have a pretty early second available, would love to see them trade back and add a second next year. Safety is a huge need, I feel like it's a good draft to look at safety. Backup TE, they may go the FA route again and add one on a one year deal. DL depth, we have Gervon and Billings returning, but if they can somehow get Graham holy shit. Kiran at swing tackle, Braxton and Wright should start; just need to upgrade the interior. Two other needs: LB depth and WR speed, really like what you suggested for WR3, I don't think they can pay Keenan to return. 1st: Mason Graham, Will Campbell, Abdul Carter, Nic Scourton, James Pearce, Kelvin Banks. 2nd: IOL, DE, RB 3rd: Safety, RB
Put him as guard I think he won't get beat around the edge. Guard I think he can have some help on weeks that he needs it. Don't really like Kiran but barely have seen him play
We got the No.1 overall pick Via Carolina. Used our pick on Rome. Y'all supposed to know this stuff. Bears-Carolina trade 😮 also a 2nd from Carolina this year and Bears are finally paid.
We need Trenches and we good. Best CB core in 🏈!!! 💯😳 LBs are very good when used right. Caleb, Swift, DJ Moore, Rome Oduze, Keenan Allen. Which, when it looks good oh my. 😅 We need to go Trenches Only pretty much. If you can grab a good KR like a Tez Johnson later you can develop at WR too. We need a return guy as well. You look at Ryan Poles. Dude can build at an Elite level. Needs a Coach
Regarding ownership, Mike Vrabel would be a bigger departure for them than Ben Johnson imo. They want to continue to be the mom and pop shop and not get a true football person in there to ruffle feathers. I would love Vrabel and he would probably be my top choice just purely off the fact he’s completely different from their past 4 coaches.
Bears fan here, couple notes. 1. Would like the realistic coach scenario where we hire a bottom 5 candidate to save our owners money. 2. Owners are NOT hungry to win, they’ve owned the team their entire lives and have done nothing else, no prior success experience in any industry/career. Were handed the team by their dad. 3. ASHTON JEANTY AT 11 MAKE IT HAPPEN! (OL is better but Jeanty is way more fun and bears have always been synonymous with defense and RB. Fantastic episode! Can’t wait for next year’s edition!
As a Bears fan, I would really like Banks at 11. Honestly wouldn’t be too mad about Jeanty there. Maybe not the best pick value wise, but definitely fun for the offense
Ben Johnson wants 14mil per. Belichick is talking 10-12ish 😳 Kyle Shannahan i would trade our 1st Rd pick for 2 years for. 😅 Sean McVay as well. Both want a new team, but I think they both want GM duties and Ryan Poles is a great GM.
Great FYF as always! As a Bears fan, the only things I would push back on a little bit is: Running back being as high of a need that you guys think. Not saying you’re wrong, especially about Swift, I actually agree. The only issue is we’re paying him a lot and I have a stronger feeling about Roschon Johnson than you guys do (even though Dylan Sampson and Swifts roles are different). Safety I think is a bit more of an immediate need/draft now and early. Brisker is one of my favorites in the team, but the concussions are very scary and Byard is obviously getting older. Elijah Hicks and Jonathan Owens are nice backups, but not starters for me. I still really want a great edge and if we can pick high enough to draft Abdul Carter, I would do that currently. I think another fun “dream” scenario for me is Kevin Stefanski if he ends up getting scapegoated. I think most of us Bears fans would agree with most of all of this though!
I think that teams value draft picks a lot more than they did when Gruden was traded for. You can see it, where players who used to get second and third round picks now get fourth and fifth round picks, and those deals are still getting completed. That being said the Bears are not going to get out of trading at least one 1st for Shannahan (and second or third) . If he is available which is very doubtful. I have a hard time believing that any team is going to give up two first for a coach again, although you guys are right, Kyle would probably be worth it considering the Bears leadership disfunction.
As a Bears fan, if all we did in free agency and the draft was pick up o-linemen, I'd be totally happy with that. All I want to see be added to the roster are tackles, guards, and centers.... And maybe a pass rusher.
I would have drafted an edge with one of the first three picks. Agree with DT pick. I’d maybe consider an edge with first round pick if there isn’t a Q Nelson quality guard at that pick.
Next time guard comes up as a need for a FYF, you should look through the teams you've previously identified as wanting a guard and the guards you expect to be available. I think there are maybe four or five impact guards, but you've already mentioned Trey Smith for at least four or five teams, it seems. At a certain point, even settling for a guy like Becton, demand for guards will exceed supply, it seems.
Been wondering when the Bears FYF would happen bc it's felt inevitable for the past month 💀 This team has so many great building blocks, just needs proper coaching. Ben Johnson & Vrabel definitely near the top of my list, but I'm honestly hoping Thomas Brown kills it as interim HC and wins the job. We talk up a ton of candidates, up and coming coordinators just to see them fail. Brown sounds like a leader and we can have the rare opportunity to let him do the job before hiring him outright. Depending on the rest of this season, Brown could definitely be a top 2 HC candidate imo Love the idea of bringing in Trey Smith and Ryan Kelly This interior oline has struggled for YEARS, Teven Jenkins has been the only saving grace and he's injured half the time. And this team needs a solid, reliable center. Been asking for one for years In the draft, Banks and Nolen definitely would be go to picks initially. Just going best available OL and DT to start the draft. RB isn't a strength, but isn't really a weakness. I'd much rather keep building the trenches instead of picking Sampson, grabbing a DE (preferably Gillote or Sawyer, Umanmielen if we're lucky) next in the second round. Stowers or Fannin are intriguing but safety is more of a need and Ransom would fit perfectly imo. Also like doubling down at DT and going Deone Walker if he falls
Ownership in Chicago is unfortunately an unholy mixture of the Browns in Cincinnati and the Johnsons in New York. It’s a serious underlying problem. Look at the process on the last three QBs they’ve hired. Draft QB in lame duck year of HC. QB has new coach in year 2. That’s been the case for Caleb, Justin fields and Mitch. That’s on ownership and a failure to recognize what is good and bad process. Should have paired Caleb with a new head coach last year to avoid the potential of continuing the cycle
Ben Johnson has Seth Ryan on his staff. Get Rex Ryan, who wants to come back to coaching. He was always good at defense. Let Ben call plays. Offensive HC and a Ryan calling defense. I think fans get on board.
@ After watching the Ryan Clark podcast, he said he almost came back to Dallas as DC. He also said how much he idolized his dad, respected Ben Johnson and wants his son to be successful. He also mentioned the phone wasn’t ringing for a head coaching job. It’s been more than a decade. I think he needs to remind people how good of a coach he is if he wants to be a HC, which it’s sounds like he does. Great show by the way. I do one of these in my hard every year with more profanity.
Braxton Jones is a ++ run blocker and I could see moving him to G with Banks at LT. Vrabel makes the most logical sense. He’s a proven leader. Nice job dude’s !
I'm with Connor... give me more coach trades, but lets get crazy with it! Throw out a 4th/5th for a new LBs Coach, or how about a 7th for your assistant Southeast Scout? lol
Edmunds, '25 2nd, 26 1st for Shanahan. Possibly keep brown if hes is good at oc/ahc, hire saleh as dc. Poles cant gamble on brown as hc but could offer him good money to stay if not offered a hc position somewhere.
I can see drafting jeanty if shanahan is traded for and smith and kelly are signed. Would try to trade back a little to recoup a pick though for jeanty if could. Shanahan likes multiple backs
@@Scotty_Does_Knowtypically, Shanahan features a few backs. Since he got CMC in SF, hes used him, almost exclusively. Even this year, when CMC returned, he immediately became the feature back again. Even after Mason was near the top of the league in rushing. I think Shanahan is a great coach. But he definitely has his faults. He has neglected the offensive line for the most part in SF, and it has cost them in their biggest moments.
In overall PFF grade, both Braxton Jones and Darnell Wright have been top 20 OTs this year. I dont think OT is as pressing of a need as people make it out to be. OG, OC, and IDL is where we need improvement. Would prefer to see the Bears draft Will Campbell or Wyatt Milum in Rd1 (considering they both will probably end up like Skoronski on the inside). For HC, pipe dream would be Chicagoland native Todd Monken coming home and convincing his brother Jeff to leave the Army HC job to take the OC job. The “Monken Bros Incorporated” offense would be so fun to watch
Yeah... Our ownership doesn't seem too concerned about winning. It's more of a family business. They worry more about their image than wanting to win, which is why this is the first time a head coach has been fired mid season. Kevin Warren changes the equation some, but it seems like it took A LOT of convincing to get them to agree on firing Everflus
Tough thing with Brisker is he always has a huge concussion risk. I feel the same way about him as I do Jenkins, love the player when healthy but just can’t count on it
I wouldn't want Fannin to go to the Bears, but if he goes to a team like the broncos, he will work out. In the past 3 years there have been 3 deep blue graded players ( non qb) that have flown under there radar. Puca, obviously great, Ivan Pace, UDFA LB that has been stellar for the vikings, and Hayden hatten WR looks like a bust, outlier here is he was playing at an FBS level. ( I think) Fannin, had fantastic grades against his non MAC competition Penn State, and Texas A&M both non push over teams and fringe playoff teams, and that's when they knew who was getting the ball as you pointed out, they feed Fannin like crazy, because he performs against everyone. I have no proverbial dogs in this fight, not a BGSU stan , but I feel like the PFF system gets stuff like this right. He is listed as the exact same size well, height weight as Brock Bowers ( on ESPN take that with a grain of salt), so while small its not unprecedented. Not saying he Is Brock Bowers just to be clear for anyone skimming this. Anyways might be wrong if he goes to a black hole like the jets, sorry Connor. However The Broncos in the 2nd or 3rd round would be so good. As always love the show keep it up!
The only counterpoint to the coach argument is, using Steelers as an example, they are always going to be good enough to be there or thereabouts in playoffs but much less likely to win SB without that ace QB, but they also very unlikely to be in a position to draft that QB due to draft position (unless they luck into a Lamar type or trade everything!)
I stated this out on many channels once the Bears traded Fields... Poles set the team back at year to year and half in the rebuild. Also added they won't make the playoffs, win around 6-9 games and fire Eberflus at the end of the season. I am not a fan of Ryan Poles... I give him 25-30% chance of hiring the right Head Coach or fixing the situation! Although I would love it, but I highly doubt the 49ers fire Kyle Shannahan. Ryan Day is not going to get fired at OSU that would be just like the 49ers firing Shannahan. Ben Johnson top of my list and Mike Vrabel is in my top 5 as well. The Bears would have to pay Hartline a lot money because he really likes coach and developing his guys. Chip Kelly the Co-OC calls play at OSU this year and most likely cost the reason why the Buckeyes lost to Michigan. The sad thing is Kliff Kingsbury is by far a better Head Coach than Eberflus! Why not trade down?
I'm actually surprised to hear that you don't think someone will take a shot on Jalen Milroe in the first round. I feel like the Seahawks are in a perfect position to miss out on all the top talent at their positions of need and pick Milroe for his traits and upside. His running ability is something Mike Macdonald would love to have as a weapon next to K9 in the backfield and he still has a cannon. Gives him a year to sit behind Geno Smith before Geno's contract expires and then absolutely cook. Somebody give me a heat check on this, though. Maybe I'm just insane 😆
As many of y'all have pointed out, you are correct, I got my seasons mixed up with Eberflus. The 3-14 season/10-game losing streak was his first year. No. 1 pick last year threw my brain off (points still stand with Flus). Gotta go back to the tape and be better for my teammates, the fans, and the city.
All good man! Pin your comment so more people see
I agree with a lot of the thought process in the draft. But let’s say Ben Johnson is the coach. I could see Ashton Jeanty being the surprise pick like Gibbs was
@@MikeAnderson-b9nooooh... Gotta like that.
Surprised you didn't add in a "I like what we did there" in homage to Flus. Way to take accountability tho 😂
Managed to get a shot at the bears in there too... I see you
This video made me excited as a bears fan until I realized I was watching a draft video on December 3rd in the middle of our season 😂
First time? Been following them since before they had their own channel 😂 24/7 draft season for us
This about to be the most viewed fix your franchise 🐻⬇️
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This is 100% true
Yes!
Haha! I hate you AND this horribly accurate comment!! Lol
He went 7-10 last year. Carolina's pick got us Caleb.
Yeah this dude doesn't know what he's talking about
@@johnfalcetta5431the 10 game losing streak was 2022, he’s got his losing streaks mixed up because Flus has had so many of them.
He’s talking about getting the #1 pick that we traded to Carolina for their #1 pick that would eventually become the Caleb pick.
You're right! That was his first season. Got those mixed up with the first overall pick. That's on me
@@johnfalcetta5431 Other than that mistake , it was a great episode
You sneaky sons of guns caught us Bears fans at our lowest. Good play
The Salesmen of Hope (trademark pending)
Cole KMET is definitely a key piece and staple on our roster. Definite leader as well
Guy doesn’t know ball man
“ Kevin Warren addicted to sex” - Connor J Rogers
Me too Kevin, me too.
The Bears were actually 7-10 last year… their Number 1 pick was actually the Carolina Panthers pick.
The Bears lost 10 straight games 2 season ago… when they started an intentional rebuild.
Thanks for leaving the comment we were all down here to make 😘
Yeah they’re forgetting he had a second half run that was great that’s how he kept the job. Mixing up the years
Ah, you're right. That's my bad. That was his first season. Got it mixed up with them having the top pick last year
The most inevitable FYF every year. I hate it here.
I raise you the Jags.
That's too damn bad!!!! You keep downing!!!!
Funny to hear you guys talk about Bruce Arians… Bears had a chance to hire him but passed for Marc Trestman. One of countless examples of Bears finding a way to Bears 😂
Bucs fans everywhere thank you
@TampaBayTre this was when he went to the cardinals
For a 5th round pick, Braxton is a huge success story.
However, he's is still getting beat by the bullrush, still missing a handful of games each year due to various injuries, and still causing a lot of boneheaded penalties.
I'll be ecstatic if we draft a LT high.
Sounds like the top tackles project more as guards in NFL….At least for 1st round for Bears who will pick top 10 for sure unless we win some tough games down the stretch. Maybe the 2nd rounders r a better spot to take OL. Also hoping Kiran can develop nicely as LT
@@eldiablony274 i mean, like Josh Conorly and Josh simmons if they're there would be fine picks, even Cameron williams or Jude Bowry given the right development plan. it's worth saying a lot of these "Projections" inside are debatable given a lot of those names are playing some fine tackle atm. i'd happily take a Zabel, or Savallnaea, or Charles grant, as a tackle and let them fail their way to guard. i wouldn't surprise me if several of this "projections" stuck/ thrives at tackle. no ones really lacking tools in all fairness.
Hopefully the bears take Kelvin Banks if he’s there. Otherwise trade down and take a DT.
I don’t have PFF Ultimate so am curious what his Pressure #’s are.
I'd keep Braxton as a backup guard if they get a LT in draft or FA. Kiran really hasn't looked that's great
Bears fan, easily if Banks/Campbell are there at our 1 that feels like a sprint to the podium pick. They may or may not be homeruns but easily OL 1 & 2 and both can play guard (which we need). Deep DL/Edge class means with high 2nd rnd picks we can grab that then. Starks or maybe favorite DL/ED comes into play if both those OL are gone, but we need to spend a top 50 pick on IOL for sure for future building even if they don't step in immediately.
All in all, I think this would be an absolute slam dunk offseason (especially FA & Draft). Crushed it imo, love the work guys! And looking forward to fixing more franchises (taking teams from chumps to chiefs) and especially more draft coverage. Best to you both and you all
Trey Smith is a Bear. Make it happen, Poles!
just clocked into graveyard shift at work where i can be an addict in peace
1st timer here. Great job guys. Seen you two before but not on this podcast. Keep up the good work boyz
4:37 Confirmed: Jags FYF coming when Shad FINALLY wises up and cleans house (end of the season)
Best in the draft business back at it again!
As a life long Bears fan, I’ve seen a lot! We need a quick shifty jitter-bug with speed. Then we will have the best wideout room in the nfl. We kinda have him on the bench. But he’s on the bench. Round 3 -4 or 4 million a year max
Trey Smith is all I care about tbh . Back up the brinks truck for him
I love you guys, thank you for reviewing my team. We are in need of a lot of help
The O-line is the obvious need (replace everyone that is not Wright), but Im surprised at the lack of discussion around Edge. Our pass rush has been terrible this year with Sweat hurt / not playing as well and Booker hasnt done much to make me think hes a long-term starter. I wouldnt be surprised if they go Edge in R1 or R2
45:16 Braxton hasn't gotten stronger which leads to him getting beat on at least 1-2 bull rushes a game in pass pro, but the rest of the game he's solid. Great 5th round pick.
Would love a fix your franchise for niners at this point. Awesome work as always guys!
Have u watched bears games? Swift has been one of our best offensive players
Hey guys Bears Fan here. Been watching/listening to you guys for a bit and love your content and analysis(you guys made me really look deeper and understand the draft and scouting side of the game I enjoy watching). Here are my takes on the Bears.
-When Flus got hired I was skeptical like I would have loved Brian Daboll at the time but I knew Indy’s Defense was great so I thought that Flus would be good at HC. However, he was just at best mediocre and at worst atrocious. Granted the mess he and Poles had to clean up it was no wonder they went 3-14. But the second year, there was signs of greatness especially with the defense so I understand why they keep Flus for this year. But the written was on the wall especially with all the one score games we lost due to being too passive or just incompetent. I’m happy with the Bears being proactive and firing him when we did. And I do have faith in Ryan Poles and Kevin Warren.
-For HC I 100% agree we need that CEO leader for our team and doesn’t matter really what side of the ball they have speciality in(I prefer offense tho). I like the Vrabel choice especially with the coordinators you guys chose and I would scream if we somehow got Kyle Shanahan but that is a huge stretch. Some other options I thought of is Thomas Brown(if these next 5 games are impressive since he is the reason our offense has looked actually viable), Kevin Stefanski would be intriguing if Cleveland lets go of him or if he wants out, and a curveball that I wouldn’t be opposed to of Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame, he has done really well at Notre Dame and was drafted by us a long time ago(would be a good story at least).
-For core players I have; Offense: Caleb Williams,DJ Moore,Rome Odunze,Darnell Wright, and Cole Kmet(he is a good leader and has been improving every year) and Defense: Jaylon Johnson,Montez Sweat,Kyler Gordon,Jaquan Brisker,TJ Edwards. In FA I agree with your takes that we need to get IOL as a priority and WR3 if we don’t retain Keenan. For the draft it depends on how the board turns out, if Campbell and Banks are off the board by the time we pick then we should go Edge but obviously if one or both are available then get one of them to play G and get Edge in the 2nd. Safety,Tight End,Defensive Tackle I would like for the Bears to address this year for the future but the trenches is where we have heavily invest in now to make us better in the long turn to try and take the North back.
Anyways thanks for the amazing content
The fact that it happened in primetime on Thanksgiving against the best team in the NFL? I cant think of a more notable emd of game failure translating to an immediate head coach firing in recent memory. The last thing I can remember of any caliber like this was where Greg Williams sent a cover-0 blitz against the Raiders in like a five-point game with seconds left on the clock in a game to decide draft positioning for Trevor Lawrence, Derek Carr beat it and won the game, and he got fired the next day by Adam Gase.
Even then, that was a coordinator, a head coach being fired over something like that I genuinely cannot remember.
If it was just this game he’s still coaching. It was the four unthinkable loses in the last six games that did him in
It’s the thing I can always look forward too😂😂
Vrabel comes in, as Bears DC under Belichick and him and Ast GM Ian Cunningham can work on being a GM/Head Coach together
Braxton Jones has been solid. He’s not elite but our major issues with the O-line have been on the interior. I actually really like the idea of drafting a LT and kicking him into guard.
Draft the future LT and have him play guard rookie year before moving to LT once Braxton hits free agency after 25’
I mean Ryan Poles has tried to install the Shannahan system here. He obviously believes in what bro does.
Damn the intro, coming in HOT
I would absolutely prefer Jeanty over Kelvin Banks if we plan to keep both of our current tackles
If you watch any of the games, bears need to improve the pass rush… need to prioritize that 2nd to offensive line. Love what you did for the O-line. Pass rusher please! Over a RB and TE. Gracias
Fax
Lifelong bears fan with several thoughts
-Braxton jones is a serviceable tackle who feels like good depth and he wouldn’t stop me from upgrading
-interior of this o line needs to be strong with all the Rodgers/Mahomes comps Caleb garners
-I’ll personally carry the duffel of cash to get Shanahan
- ownership is a problem.McCaskey family isn’t serious about operating like the modern nfl does and still acts like 1985 was last year. My dad was 25 years old when the bears won the Super Bowl and wouldn’t meet my mom for 3 more FULL calendar years so you can forget that I was but a twinkle in his eye talk
-please add a center. Bears haven’t had a good one since Olin Kruetz left and that happened when I was a sophomore in high school… 16 years ago!! The bear’s ineptitude at center can legally drive a car
Idk if I want Kyle for 2 1sts but agree with much of what you’ve said. I like Braxton Jones. Curious how many pressures he’s given up. I want to solidify interior. If we can improve at Tackle, great.
@ I bet we could get something done for Shanahan with a swap of our firsts this year since we’ll be within a few picks of one another and then add in our 2nd this year and some filler in 2026.
Braxton has lost me since he’s 3 years in and still can’t handle the bull rush
@@jackpabich763against a really good D line with the lions, Braxton and Darnell gave up 0 pressures
Bears key pieces.
Offense: Caleb Williams, Darnell Wright, DJ Moore, Rome Odunze, Cole Kmet.
Defense: Montez Sweat, Gervon Dexter, TJ Edwards, Jaylon Johnson, Kyler Gordon.
Swift?
@PandaSenpai48 I honestly don't consider Swift a key piece. He's had some nice moments, some solid games. But I think he can be easily replaced from a talent perspective, I'd love to see the Bears draft a RB early to complement him and increase his longevity.
Notably, Ryan Poles was on the Chiefs when they got Trey Smith. 23.75M for 4 years. 95M. Boom
Trey Smith is a must have for the Bears. I say bring back Coleman Shelton as well. The rapport with Caleb is there and getting stronger
The best options as I can see them are as follows.
Todd Monken: He's a seasoned coach who knows how to win, and he's tied to some big names. If he could hire Dan Lanning as DC that would be huge.
Thomas Brown: He's had head coaching nods in the past. He's built good rapport with our players, and he's stepped up to every challenge. If Eric Washington doesn't work out as DC he's connected to Ejiro Evero.
Mike Vrable: A proven track record as a HC, but it's hard to say who would be on his staff.
Ben Johnson: Really solid play caller, but there's some unknowns. Tied to Lou Anarumo who would be an excellent DC for us.
Proud addict, happy to get a Monday night fix.
LFG
As a LONG time Bears fan, we have been spoiled with great running backs. IF we sign TWO stud FA guards and the board falls this way, I'm taking Jeanty all day long. The man doesn't go down and he's a beast. Running game will be Caleb's best friend. There's alot of 'IF's'... lol
Bears top needs: IOL, DE, RB, S, IDL, TE. They desperately need to add vets via FA to the IOL, very happy if they get Trey Smith and Ryan Kelly. Draft wise, if Mason Graham is somehow staring them in the face when they're on the clock he must be the pick. Other hopeful options available would be Will Campbell, Kelvin Banks, Abdul Carter, Nic Scourton, James Pearce; the pick is either OL or DL. If Omarion Hampton is there in the second round would love to see him added, RB is very much a need. If they go OL in the first, DE is pretty much a necessity in the second and there will be plenty of options there. I don't know if they pay DE in FA; they paid Sweat already and when they could've paid one last FA (Hunter, Greenard) they elected not to, plus they need to pay for IOL. I'd love to see them trade back in the second. Last draft, someone traded back in the second for a later second, a fourth, and a second next year. Bears are going to have a pretty early second available, would love to see them trade back and add a second next year. Safety is a huge need, I feel like it's a good draft to look at safety. Backup TE, they may go the FA route again and add one on a one year deal. DL depth, we have Gervon and Billings returning, but if they can somehow get Graham holy shit. Kiran at swing tackle, Braxton and Wright should start; just need to upgrade the interior. Two other needs: LB depth and WR speed, really like what you suggested for WR3, I don't think they can pay Keenan to return.
1st: Mason Graham, Will Campbell, Abdul Carter, Nic Scourton, James Pearce, Kelvin Banks.
2nd: IOL, DE, RB
3rd: Safety, RB
We love Braxsten Jones! Bears should be open to an upgrade but he’s better than half that line. Her sucks against the bull rush tho
Put him as guard I think he won't get beat around the edge. Guard I think he can have some help on weeks that he needs it. Don't really like Kiran but barely have seen him play
How is Gervon Dexter not a Core 4 defensive piece??? Brisker may not get a 2nd contract with his concussions!
We got the No.1 overall pick Via Carolina. Used our pick on Rome. Y'all supposed to know this stuff. Bears-Carolina trade 😮 also a 2nd from Carolina this year and Bears are finally paid.
We need Trenches and we good. Best CB core in 🏈!!! 💯😳 LBs are very good when used right. Caleb, Swift, DJ Moore, Rome Oduze, Keenan Allen. Which, when it looks good oh my. 😅 We need to go Trenches Only pretty much. If you can grab a good KR like a Tez Johnson later you can develop at WR too. We need a return guy as well. You look at Ryan Poles. Dude can build at an Elite level. Needs a Coach
Braxton Jones is awesome. Love him, 5th round gem.
IT'S HAPPENING!!!
Regarding ownership, Mike Vrabel would be a bigger departure for them than Ben Johnson imo. They want to continue to be the mom and pop shop and not get a true football person in there to ruffle feathers. I would love Vrabel and he would probably be my top choice just purely off the fact he’s completely different from their past 4 coaches.
Bears fan here, couple notes.
1. Would like the realistic coach scenario where we hire a bottom 5 candidate to save our owners money.
2. Owners are NOT hungry to win, they’ve owned the team their entire lives and have done nothing else, no prior success experience in any industry/career. Were handed the team by their dad.
3. ASHTON JEANTY AT 11 MAKE IT HAPPEN! (OL is better but Jeanty is way more fun and bears have always been synonymous with defense and RB.
Fantastic episode! Can’t wait for next year’s edition!
As a Bears fan, I would really like Banks at 11. Honestly wouldn’t be too mad about Jeanty there. Maybe not the best pick value wise, but definitely fun for the offense
I love how Trevor was the first to put it out there to trade for Shanahan a day before Mike Florio or the rest of the national media
WE ARE HERE BOYS!!!
salute!
Ben Johnson wants 14mil per. Belichick is talking 10-12ish 😳 Kyle Shannahan i would trade our 1st Rd pick for 2 years for. 😅 Sean McVay as well. Both want a new team, but I think they both want GM duties and Ryan Poles is a great GM.
Great FYF as always! As a Bears fan, the only things I would push back on a little bit is:
Running back being as high of a need that you guys think. Not saying you’re wrong, especially about Swift, I actually agree. The only issue is we’re paying him a lot and I have a stronger feeling about Roschon Johnson than you guys do (even though Dylan Sampson and Swifts roles are different).
Safety I think is a bit more of an immediate need/draft now and early. Brisker is one of my favorites in the team, but the concussions are very scary and Byard is obviously getting older. Elijah Hicks and Jonathan Owens are nice backups, but not starters for me.
I still really want a great edge and if we can pick high enough to draft Abdul Carter, I would do that currently.
I think another fun “dream” scenario for me is Kevin Stefanski if he ends up getting scapegoated.
I think most of us Bears fans would agree with most of all of this though!
Great post! Kevin Stefanski would be great. He should leave the Browns especially if they don’t plan on drafting a QB
I clicked on this because I thought that was Tom Pelissero lol, but still, lot of good points her fellas.
Wish this video happened when their draft position was more certain (in like a month) but I knew we needed a FYF
49ers next please :)
This is great stuff boys
I think that teams value draft picks a lot more than they did when Gruden was traded for. You can see it, where players who used to get second and third round picks now get fourth and fifth round picks, and those deals are still getting completed. That being said the Bears are not going to get out of trading at least one 1st for Shannahan (and second or third) . If he is available which is very doubtful. I have a hard time believing that any team is going to give up two first for a coach again, although you guys are right, Kyle would probably be worth it considering the Bears leadership disfunction.
Lezzgo! 🐻⬇️
As a Bears fan, if all we did in free agency and the draft was pick up o-linemen, I'd be totally happy with that. All I want to see be added to the roster are tackles, guards, and centers.... And maybe a pass rusher.
Nailed coaching candidates, would have taken edge rusher instead of rb in 2nd. Agree we do need another RB though
Hyped for this one.
Kmet for 70 catches 700 yds is pretty darn good. I’m ok bringing back Allen, Shelton (depth), Pryor (depth), Edmunds (not so high priced), Edwards (under paid), Sanborn (cheap), Byard (other bigger starting needs). Priority Needs: LG, C, RG, TE2, TE3, RB2 (hammer), RB4, WR4, DT2, DT3, EDGE2, EDGE4. That’s 5-7 starter upgrades all in the trenches.
We're going to get it right! I BELIEVE!
Sensational boys… sensational
awesome video guys, I hope you were working for the chicago bears 🤣
I would have drafted an edge with one of the first three picks. Agree with DT pick. I’d maybe consider an edge with first round pick if there isn’t a Q Nelson quality guard at that pick.
49ers would be a great FYF
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Does Trevor have this confused? Caleb was taken with Carolina's pick. The bears traded with Carolina the year prior in the Bryce Young trade.
Yes. 3-14 was his first year. Got it confused since they had the No. 1 pick. That's my bad!
@@TampaBayTreno worries. Love the content. Y'all are IT.
Next time guard comes up as a need for a FYF, you should look through the teams you've previously identified as wanting a guard and the guards you expect to be available. I think there are maybe four or five impact guards, but you've already mentioned Trey Smith for at least four or five teams, it seems. At a certain point, even settling for a guy like Becton, demand for guards will exceed supply, it seems.
If some coaches get fired this would be my dream scenario.
HC - Shanahan
OC - Zach Taylor
DC - Saleh
Been wondering when the Bears FYF would happen bc it's felt inevitable for the past month 💀
This team has so many great building blocks, just needs proper coaching. Ben Johnson & Vrabel definitely near the top of my list, but I'm honestly hoping Thomas Brown kills it as interim HC and wins the job. We talk up a ton of candidates, up and coming coordinators just to see them fail. Brown sounds like a leader and we can have the rare opportunity to let him do the job before hiring him outright. Depending on the rest of this season, Brown could definitely be a top 2 HC candidate imo
Love the idea of bringing in Trey Smith and Ryan Kelly
This interior oline has struggled for YEARS, Teven Jenkins has been the only saving grace and he's injured half the time. And this team needs a solid, reliable center. Been asking for one for years
In the draft, Banks and Nolen definitely would be go to picks initially. Just going best available OL and DT to start the draft.
RB isn't a strength, but isn't really a weakness. I'd much rather keep building the trenches instead of picking Sampson, grabbing a DE (preferably Gillote or Sawyer, Umanmielen if we're lucky) next in the second round.
Stowers or Fannin are intriguing but safety is more of a need and Ransom would fit perfectly imo. Also like doubling down at DT and going Deone Walker if he falls
Ownership in Chicago is unfortunately an unholy mixture of the Browns in Cincinnati and the Johnsons in New York. It’s a serious underlying problem.
Look at the process on the last three QBs they’ve hired.
Draft QB in lame duck year of HC. QB has new coach in year 2. That’s been the case for Caleb, Justin fields and Mitch. That’s on ownership and a failure to recognize what is good and bad process.
Should have paired Caleb with a new head coach last year to avoid the potential of continuing the cycle
Ben Johnson has Seth Ryan on his staff. Get Rex Ryan, who wants to come back to coaching. He was always good at defense. Let Ben call plays. Offensive HC and a Ryan calling defense. I think fans get on board.
I would love it, but I don't think rex would come back to be a DC. Could be wrong and maybe he just really wants to coach tho
Rex Ryan is loving broadcasting. If he does comeback it’s for head coach
@ After watching the Ryan Clark podcast, he said he almost came back to Dallas as DC. He also said how much he idolized his dad, respected Ben Johnson and wants his son to be successful. He also mentioned the phone wasn’t ringing for a head coaching job. It’s been more than a decade. I think he needs to remind people how good of a coach he is if he wants to be a HC, which it’s sounds like he does.
Great show by the way. I do one of these in my hard every year with more profanity.
Lets do it! Not mad at that.
Braxton Jones is a ++ run blocker and I could see moving him to G with Banks at LT. Vrabel makes the most logical sense. He’s a proven leader. Nice job dude’s !
He struggles with his anchor and strength. I don’t see how he can move inside. He has good feet which allows him to work as a tackle
@@Scoreboard-23He's also like 6'7. Pad level is really important, especially on the interior.
@@zackhurwitz9441 that’s a solid point
He literally did it.
I'm with Connor... give me more coach trades, but lets get crazy with it! Throw out a 4th/5th for a new LBs Coach, or how about a 7th for your assistant Southeast Scout? lol
HC, QB, GM. Thats the list of importance
Edmunds, '25 2nd, 26 1st for Shanahan. Possibly keep brown if hes is good at oc/ahc, hire saleh as dc. Poles cant gamble on brown as hc but could offer him good money to stay if not offered a hc position somewhere.
I can see drafting jeanty if shanahan is traded for and smith and kelly are signed. Would try to trade back a little to recoup a pick though for jeanty if could. Shanahan likes multiple backs
@@Scotty_Does_Knowtypically, Shanahan features a few backs. Since he got CMC in SF, hes used him, almost exclusively. Even this year, when CMC returned, he immediately became the feature back again. Even after Mason was near the top of the league in rushing.
I think Shanahan is a great coach. But he definitely has his faults. He has neglected the offensive line for the most part in SF, and it has cost them in their biggest moments.
Oh boy, here we go
If you get Ben Johnson. Jeanty will be a dream. But Banks would be very welcome. Because he doesnt have an injury history.
Braxton Jones gets the benefit of the doubt because he was a 5th round pick. He's a backup because of a fatal flaw against the bull rush.
In overall PFF grade, both Braxton Jones and Darnell Wright have been top 20 OTs this year. I dont think OT is as pressing of a need as people make it out to be. OG, OC, and IDL is where we need improvement.
Would prefer to see the Bears draft Will Campbell or Wyatt Milum in Rd1 (considering they both will probably end up like Skoronski on the inside).
For HC, pipe dream would be Chicagoland native Todd Monken coming home and convincing his brother Jeff to leave the Army HC job to take the OC job. The “Monken Bros Incorporated” offense would be so fun to watch
Yeah... Our ownership doesn't seem too concerned about winning. It's more of a family business. They worry more about their image than wanting to win, which is why this is the first time a head coach has been fired mid season. Kevin Warren changes the equation some, but it seems like it took A LOT of convincing to get them to agree on firing Everflus
Trevor is mixing up years…we went 7-10 last year with 5-3 record down stretch…thats why we retained eberflus. The year before is the losing streak
You beat me to this… 5-3 after a 6 game losing streak if I recall. 🫡
We need the panthers next, especially with the Bryce resurgence! #KeepPounding
Thomas brown is the organizational leader 💯 hopefully they notice that in the last few games left
Tough thing with Brisker is he always has a huge concussion risk. I feel the same way about him as I do Jenkins, love the player when healthy but just can’t count on it
I think theres a good possibility John Gruden is considered for a Head Coaching gig somewhere.
This episode gonna hit like crack for the second year in a row
Have you guys looked at the Purdue OT he might be the best run blocker in the class
This was good
I wouldn't want Fannin to go to the Bears, but if he goes to a team like the broncos, he will work out. In the past 3 years there have been 3 deep blue graded players ( non qb) that have flown under there radar. Puca, obviously great, Ivan Pace, UDFA LB that has been stellar for the vikings, and Hayden hatten WR looks like a bust, outlier here is he was playing at an FBS level. ( I think) Fannin, had fantastic grades against his non MAC competition Penn State, and Texas A&M both non push over teams and fringe playoff teams, and that's when they knew who was getting the ball as you pointed out, they feed Fannin like crazy, because he performs against everyone.
I have no proverbial dogs in this fight, not a BGSU stan , but I feel like the PFF system gets stuff like this right. He is listed as the exact same size well, height weight as Brock Bowers ( on ESPN take that with a grain of salt), so while small its not unprecedented.
Not saying he Is Brock Bowers just to be clear for anyone skimming this. Anyways might be wrong if he goes to a black hole like the jets, sorry Connor. However The Broncos in the 2nd or 3rd round would be so good. As always love the show keep it up!
The only counterpoint to the coach argument is, using Steelers as an example, they are always going to be good enough to be there or thereabouts in playoffs but much less likely to win SB without that ace QB, but they also very unlikely to be in a position to draft that QB due to draft position (unless they luck into a Lamar type or trade everything!)
I stated this out on many channels once the Bears traded Fields... Poles set the team back at year to year and half in the rebuild.
Also added they won't make the playoffs, win around 6-9 games and fire Eberflus at the end of the season.
I am not a fan of Ryan Poles... I give him 25-30% chance of hiring the right Head Coach or fixing the situation!
Although I would love it, but I highly doubt the 49ers fire Kyle Shannahan. Ryan Day is not going to get fired at OSU that would be just like the 49ers firing Shannahan.
Ben Johnson top of my list and Mike Vrabel is in my top 5 as well.
The Bears would have to pay Hartline a lot money because he really likes coach and developing his guys.
Chip Kelly the Co-OC calls play at OSU this year and most likely cost the reason why the Buckeyes lost to Michigan.
The sad thing is Kliff Kingsbury is by far a better Head Coach than Eberflus!
Why not trade down?
TJ Edwards is one of the best linebackers in the league
Hoping y’all do one for my niners
If we do end up parting ways with Keenan Allen, would LOVE if we picked up Pat Bryant in the 3rd or 4th
I'm actually surprised to hear that you don't think someone will take a shot on Jalen Milroe in the first round. I feel like the Seahawks are in a perfect position to miss out on all the top talent at their positions of need and pick Milroe for his traits and upside. His running ability is something Mike Macdonald would love to have as a weapon next to K9 in the backfield and he still has a cannon. Gives him a year to sit behind Geno Smith before Geno's contract expires and then absolutely cook. Somebody give me a heat check on this, though. Maybe I'm just insane 😆