Such an amazing concept that makes so much sense. You couldn't of explained it better. Looking forward to trying and applying this method tomorrow on my round. Thank you so much for your ability to simplify the game and help us in our journey to playing better golf. You're amazing
Yup, this destroyed my golf swing for years! Thanks to you, I went to a athletic ( baseball like ) swing. My baseball swing: keep my weight back then explode. Golf swing: get my weight forward then explode.
When you made the actual swing at about minute 8:05, the shaft was more vertical than when you were showing the steps in the drill that shallowed the club. Was the drill exaggerating to get the feel? Can one overdo the shallowing? But overall a very useful lesson. Particularly like the advice to get weight shifted on to the left leg starting early just before the end of the backswing. Others like Craig Hanson and Eric Cogorno emphasize the same thing. Have been working on that a lot in part because the weakest part of my game is hitting greens in regulation with short to mid irons. Driving is my best part, wedges and putting also good. But if you don’t get that 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 iron on the green you are constantly hitting short pitches from green side rough and are almost sure to make bogey. So thanks for this.
Online lessons with Milo changed my swing, so still doing the go-to drills assigned then but finding it also helps make the "new swing" more fluid and natural-feeling to augment with new drills like this one. Amazing how many of the PGA guys do these drills religiously: you apprently need to do drills to have the kind of swing that makes it look like you don't need to do drills!
Thanks Milo- Right now I am hitting 15+ yards by simply "bowing to the ball". this is the magic move. You and Henry do this with the cover head in the belt loop drill. By doing the move I shallow the club perfectly and sweep a dollar bill divot with out too much effort.
To me key is to work on your pivot and get that as right as you can and the arms will fall in place, if the pivot is funky it leads to funky stuff with the arms.
Mr. Lines..... Swing sequence of Tom Kite and Ben Crenshaw in their younger years are the best example of what you're saying.Their chests almost faced the target at impact and their shot was a push draw.
100%, as I stated in the video, I simply have my preferences. He is world class, and just like all of us, has had different feels at different points in his career. I'd say they worked for him.
Milo, could you please address the issue of different clubs, i.e lofts which naturally changes the angle of direction the face points. Higher lofted clubs will point left compared to lower lofts. That's one thing about golf compared to other sports, in golf each club almost requires a different swing
Years ago, I worked with Martin Ayers, and he would tell me to Swing at Shoulder Height. There is only one way to hit the ball with that vision. The Shoulders have to be on Plane with the Ball. Much like your Hockey Stick Drill.
Keeping back to the target in transition and as you start down has the same effect as keeping your lead shoulder down, which you advocate. At least for me that is.
Great Video...but I can't remember so many things. But body doesn't allow me to do all this in under a second.. I am not very athletic... Play of a 10 handicap with a weird kind of swing
Thanks for watching! The game and swing can be indeed complicated and challenging. Have you looked into joining my online academy and learning the steps I lay out to Swing Like an Athlete? Would love to help: swinglikeanathlete.com
Yes I get that however in my experience there are way more people who never rotate than rotate too much or too soon. I generally find it more effective to focus on learning to wind up and shift correctly than simply saying keep your back to the target and get your arms down before you start to unwind.
Milo I like your stuff. But be realistic, a lot of pros have their shoulders much much more square at impact than what you teach. Look at Sheffler and DeChambeau at impact for two examples. The only guy on tour that is open like you teach is Nieman
I suggest watching this video. I'm not saying they are dramatically open in all cases, but they are open to some degree. A lot of it is an illusion. I high % of amateurs I teach are in fact closed and it debilitates their speed potential and hurts their body. ruclips.net/video/tHNCRQ4tv3Y/видео.html
@@jsmith7888 I don’t necessarily disagree with any coach. I try to present what I have found to be the most effective and easiest through my experience coaching.
Actually Andrew Emery had a recent video where his student saying he was trying to keep his back to the target as long as he could. Wonder if this is a response to that.
@@Quattro46 not a response to other coaches teaching. This video was made to address a major issue I see with students submitting swings to my online academy and in person students the first time they come to see me.
Most slicers aren’t able to move their hands faster than the body which results cast kind of motion in camera. If the hands dont move fast enough, the only way to hit from inside is to keep your back to the target longer or flip the hands(saving the shot with hands). Pros speed up their hands unconciously and that way may feel that they have passive hands. Feel aint real even to pros. Hands have to move independently from the body and that should be tought to slicers first.
@@MiloLinesGolf Your Text overlay is clickbait..it reads "STOP DOING THIS!" Which, c'mon, was intended to drive traffic and create controversy since keeping your back to the target is a swing thought that helps MILLIONS of players. A blanket statement like your video suggests is incorrect since everyone's swing is different. I have been playing for 30 years now and still to this day when I start coming over the top I recognize it and go back to "Keep my back to the target" IT works for me and I'm sure it does for many others. Sorry, I just felt like your text overlay was overly aggressive in the "DON"T DO THIS." department.
Very astute point about players' feels changing over time. The rest was great too!
Thanks Chris...certainly feels, reals, and preferences in this video.
Such an amazing concept that makes so much sense. You couldn't of explained it better. Looking forward to trying and applying this method tomorrow on my round. Thank you so much for your ability to simplify the game and help us in our journey to playing better golf. You're amazing
Glad it was helpful!
Yup, this destroyed my golf swing for years! Thanks to you, I went to a athletic ( baseball like ) swing. My baseball swing: keep my weight back then explode. Golf swing: get my weight forward then explode.
Wow, what a great comment!
When you made the actual swing at about minute 8:05, the shaft was more vertical than when you were showing the steps in the drill that shallowed the club. Was the drill exaggerating to get the feel? Can one overdo the shallowing? But overall a very useful lesson. Particularly like the advice to get weight shifted on to the left leg starting early just before the end of the backswing. Others like Craig Hanson and Eric Cogorno emphasize the same thing. Have been working on that a lot in part because the weakest part of my game is hitting greens in regulation with short to mid irons. Driving is my best part, wedges and putting also good. But if you don’t get that 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 iron on the green you are constantly hitting short pitches from green side rough and are almost sure to make bogey. So thanks for this.
Online lessons with Milo changed my swing, so still doing the go-to drills assigned then but finding it also helps make the "new swing" more fluid and natural-feeling to augment with new drills like this one. Amazing how many of the PGA guys do these drills religiously: you apprently need to do drills to have the kind of swing that makes it look like you don't need to do drills!
Slow exaggerated rehearsals and drill swings with quality feedback really helps expedite changes.
Thanks Milo- Right now I am hitting 15+ yards by simply "bowing to the ball". this is the magic move. You and Henry do this with the cover head in the belt loop drill. By doing the move I shallow the club perfectly and sweep a dollar bill divot with out too much effort.
Fantastic!
To me key is to work on your pivot and get that as right as you can and the arms will fall in place, if the pivot is funky it leads to funky stuff with the arms.
A primary focus of ours 🙌
Great stuff Milo! Thank you
Glad you liked it, thanks for the watch!
Mr. Lines..... Swing sequence of Tom Kite and Ben Crenshaw in their younger years are the best example of what you're saying.Their chests almost faced the target at impact and their shot was a push draw.
Thanks for the watch! Great players there.
Great video Milo! Basically 4 lessons in one.
Glad you didn’t throw Rose under the bus. He’s been a likable, elite golfer for a long time.
100%, as I stated in the video, I simply have my preferences. He is world class, and just like all of us, has had different feels at different points in his career. I'd say they worked for him.
Milo, could you please address the issue of different clubs, i.e lofts which naturally changes the angle of direction the face points. Higher lofted clubs will point left compared to lower lofts. That's one thing about golf compared to other sports, in golf each club almost requires a different swing
Years ago, I worked with Martin Ayers, and he would tell me to Swing at Shoulder Height. There is only one way to hit the ball with that vision. The Shoulders have to be on Plane with the Ball. Much like your Hockey Stick Drill.
Hey Milo,
Great freaking video
Do you “feel” like you start to UD at P5 or P6?
Thanks
I don’t ever feel I actively UD it’s something that just happens due to momentum.
Love to see you go out on the golf course and play a few holes. That would be great! 👍
ruclips.net/video/Cakz-EmO0vQ/видео.htmlsi=5Be4_InW3SsU2Hd_
Keeping back to the target in transition and as you start down has the same effect as keeping your lead shoulder down, which you advocate. At least for me that is.
Do you ever think of clearing your hips ??? Thanks
Not really, I feel quite a bit with my torso. Maybe this video can help explain: ruclips.net/video/wLcBCnBvsu8/видео.html
Great Video...but I can't remember so many things. But body doesn't allow me to do all this in under a second.. I am not very athletic... Play of a 10 handicap with a weird kind of swing
Thanks for watching! The game and swing can be indeed complicated and challenging. Have you looked into joining my online academy and learning the steps I lay out to Swing Like an Athlete? Would love to help: swinglikeanathlete.com
Haha, thanks!
Think you’re missing the point. The back to target and hands dropping is just a feel for people who rotate their chest too soon.
Yes I get that however in my experience there are way more people who never rotate than rotate too much or too soon. I generally find it more effective to focus on learning to wind up and shift correctly than simply saying keep your back to the target and get your arms down before you start to unwind.
This is why you should never ever listen to pros about what they think they are doing in their swing. It will wreck you.
Feels can be all over the map, undoubtedly...I prefer finding the best feels that work for the individual in front of me.
Guilty 🖐🏼
Many are, it's a common pattern I see.
Milo I like your stuff. But be realistic, a lot of pros have their shoulders much much more square at impact than what you teach. Look at Sheffler and DeChambeau at impact for two examples. The only guy on tour that is open like you teach is Nieman
I suggest watching this video. I'm not saying they are dramatically open in all cases, but they are open to some degree. A lot of it is an illusion. I high % of amateurs I teach are in fact closed and it debilitates their speed potential and hurts their body. ruclips.net/video/tHNCRQ4tv3Y/видео.html
@ yeah I see what you are saying in that video. Would you say you disagree with Monte Sheinblums way of teaching then? Seem to be quite different
@@jsmith7888 I don’t necessarily disagree with any coach. I try to present what I have found to be the most effective and easiest through my experience coaching.
Waiting for AMG fan boys.
What’s AMG?
@@thombendtsen399athletic motion golf
Actually Andrew Emery had a recent video where his student saying he was trying to keep his back to the target as long as he could. Wonder if this is a response to that.
@@Quattro46 not a response to other coaches teaching. This video was made to address a major issue I see with students submitting swings to my online academy and in person students the first time they come to see me.
Most slicers aren’t able to move their hands faster than the body which results cast kind of motion in camera. If the hands dont move fast enough, the only way to hit from inside is to keep your back to the target longer or flip the hands(saving the shot with hands). Pros speed up their hands unconciously and that way may feel that they have passive hands. Feel aint real even to pros. Hands have to move independently from the body and that should be tought to slicers first.
sorry....keeping my back to the target is working great for me....
As I said in the video it’s a feeling that can work as long as it doesn’t actually happen.
Terrible advice here. ..wow.
Why? What's your reasoning.
@@MiloLinesGolf Your Text overlay is clickbait..it reads "STOP DOING THIS!" Which, c'mon, was intended to drive traffic and create controversy since keeping your back to the target is a swing thought that helps MILLIONS of players. A blanket statement like your video suggests is incorrect since everyone's swing is different. I have been playing for 30 years now and still to this day when I start coming over the top I recognize it and go back to "Keep my back to the target" IT works for me and I'm sure it does for many others. Sorry, I just felt like your text overlay was overly aggressive in the "DON"T DO THIS." department.