shifting gears 16s Daf XF105 video reply to shifting gears 12s Volvo FH by AID2003
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- video reply to the "shifting gear 12s Volvo FH"of AID2003
After my comment on his video ,Andy writes me that it will be funny if i made a video reply.....SO HERE IT IS...just a little mistake at 00:33 the picture is from a Eaton 18s
On my Daf 105.410 i have a manual gearbox 16s ZF....very easy to use (just like a car)
I want to thank you for watching,rating and commenting my little videos all along this year
and wish you all the best for you and your family for 2013
video made with Magix video deluxe 17 plus
I drive an XF automatic normally. Tomorrow I'm being trusted with a CF manual, 16 speed. Haven't needed to use the splitter before but now I know that I just have to use the clutch to engage the split gear, not take it out and put it back in gear with the splitter on. Thanks for this vid, I hope it helps me on the road!
Thx for good video. Some years ago I had joy to drive a DAF with same gear. Began career with Mercedes NG witt one-H without Split, then double-H without Split, then double-H splitted and so on … wish you and all our camerades all time good trip
Interesting, Pat. Thanks! I only ever had very simple Eaton-Fuller 10-speeds (high-low ranges, one overdrive gear, no splits). I wanted more gears--more gears, more fun. Safe trip / Marc
thank you alot I learn how to change gears from you and know am a truck driver from Africa Tanzania God bless you
i ll be driving trucks in tanzania soon :D
I love the sound of 4L. I can listen to it for hours...
Thank you Mr Patrick I have driven DAF CF 85.430 16 spread gear ⚙️ truck 🚛 it is amazing truck bravo Paccar for the DAF CF truck 🚛🚛🚛
For who does not have experience, those videos are perfect. Keep doing that. You and Andy. Great job! Happy new year!
I like the way you teach how to drive daf
Damn auto trucks! Great Manual gearboxes, even with synchromesh.
Brilliant video Patrik..
I had the some ZF Gear BOX in my old MAN TGA...
Its very easy to use and works good..
Not so many split greas like in the 12 speed like I have..
THX you for this great video responce..
Wish you all the best for 2013...
Keep on trucking and Keep on filming!!
My name is Alphonce from Africa Tanzania love so so much daf xf me in machanical daf and man maintanence welcome Tanzania
I will watch the video in a moment, but that shift pattern looks like our standard 18 speed that I am very familiar with. Driven lots of them. You can split all low range gears and all the top 4 high range gears. We shift without using the clutch and if you are a 43 year veteran like me you shift with two fingers just like butter. It is called rev matching. On the other hand, our green drivers double clutch and grind like crazy. Quite funny to watch. OK now time to see the video. Can't wait....
VERY EASY TO EXPLAIN. THANK YOU. THUMBS UP.
you like it or you hate it....it is a way of life
no my father had stop to drive since 2008,he had drive for him self all his life,now he is 75 and in pension
i am 53 ,and i have 2 sons who drive ,the oldest is 33 and chief of a garage for a road work company but drive with a beton mixer 6 axles mercedes 2 or 3 days a week and the second is 21 old ,he work for sitra now 3 years with a bulker and now with a fridge but still for sitra and he like it
greethings from Belgium
Very liked this video Patrick,
I used to drive my fathers truck in summer, his truck has little bit different transsmission, but anyway person just have to get used to it, to practise for some time, then it will be easy to drive any truck.
have a nice evening my friend,
Simas
the cab yts not high.........,but u r verry higt dryverrrrrr.........thumbs UP......for Patt....,u r really my mentor......,y wanth to dryve like u....,greattings from Romania!!!
some prefers the auto boxes ,it is true that it is great in the traffic jam,but for the normal drive and driving with the feeling ,the manual transmission is better.....but we are in 2013 and i think that my next truck will be with an autobox....in my company they test the new mercedes actros and the new daf 460 ,both of them with automatic
have a good weekend Marc
Hi Patrick I hope you have a very happy and prosperous New Year ... very interesting to learn more about the Transmissions of European trucks .... never driven a truck and Europe but I can see that these changes are very smooth .. I see none nesesario rpm engine speed to reduce gear changes .. thank you very much for sharing these fabulous and interesting videos dear friend .. My best wishes to you and your family in this new year .. Greetings friend
hi Andrzej
i do loaded 1L 3L 4L 5L 6L 6H.....etc and empty 2H 4H 5H 6H 7H 8 L 8H.....You know i have a 410 ,at 44tons you need a lot speed.....i know that you can have the ZF16S,the Fuller 18s and the autobox 12s of Daf
for the the highest reverse gear ,yes i use it often when i unload the train in the factory,there i must do some long reverse if i dont want to each time "u turn"...fast hé....with the trailer you dont have to miss the backing
HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND
p
yes Paccar engines ,but the transmission is ZF ?the picture in the video with the eaton 18s was in my instruction book of my daf ,it is a mistake ,,it is nearly the same just that we dont have the 2crawler with the zf
have a good week
Pat
it is nearly the same like a scania
the last truck of my father was a scania r500 with manual gearbox
i have try it ...what i can say is that gearbox of the scania was harder for shifting the gear,not worst to use but you need to use more power with your arm to shift the gear
thanks for your comment
Thanks so much for posting this video
grazie per i auguri
anche a te un buon capo d anno
Pat
i prefer the xf95 over the xf105 because in the 105 the stick is angled forward which means you have to reach further forward to change gears as where in the 95 the stick is straight up and is right beside your armrest and easier to reach.
Nice doubleclutch back shifting at 4:37 :D
STiBebi specialist....hahaha
I just watched the video. You showed two different transmissions. One had Reverse on the bottom left, and the other one had reverse on the top left. Are you trying to confuse us? Also I noticed that you did a lot of skip shifting. I never do that on an 18 speed crash box unless I am going down hill or bob tailing. All of our heavy trucks in North America pull much heavier loads than in Europe and have double drive axles. Our manuals are all non synchro transmissions. They tried synchros a few years ago but the drivers hated them and they are no longer available in heavy trucks. Just to much payload and they all got destroyed.
Doug Stern well thats lies anyway. Most trucks now are automatic or have synchro gear boxes. Even the American brands are now making autos. Double clutching went out with the dinosaurs. Like anything new synchro boxes struggled with torque at first but not anymore. No new trucks today are being made with non synchro gear boxes 😂 besides Americans cant drive unless its a straight line
too much You don't know what you are talking about. All students here in North America driving the new 18 speed non-snchro transmissions are taught to double clutch. New heavy trucks in North American are now non-synchro. They tried synchro transmissions years ago. Our trucks are away too heavy for synchro boxes. There are none today, except in light 5 and 10 ton trucks. However you are right re non manual transmissions. They are dumming down the industry in a desperate attempt to get more drivers. BTW, these transmissions are NOT called automatics. They are manual transmissions with a normal clutch, but are shifted by a computer, because very few people have the skill today to drive a real truck. It costs too much to train them and it is cheaper to just put automated manuals in trucks these days. I've been in the industry for 44 years and am appalled at many of the drivers today who too often are incompetent.
@@MerlynAStern As an european I'm curious to know what's the total mass of the truck + trailer fully loaded. Here the weight limit is 40 metric tons in most states, 44 t in some countries, and 65t, I think, in Sweden. I have read that the federal combined weight limit is 80 000lb = 36 000 kg(36t). That is less than european trucks. Does the federal limit apply to all states or do some have higher limits ?
Here most trucks made since 1990 or so had syncro boxes, and 95% of new trucks in the past 10 years are automated manual.
yes Al ,i dont know if you have seen it ,but the pic at 00:33 was a mistake ,i have copy it from the instruction book of my Daf,but it is from a Fuller 18s....i didnt know that it was still possible to buy a daf with a fuller gearbox
happy new year
thx for the comment
thanks for this nice comment Eric
no it is you my disigner for my truck.....haha....you must find a solution
good 2013 to you
Pat
Thank you for being a good driving trainer wishing you all the best & Happy New year merry Christmas to you
thanks for the comment
have a good weekend
I drive a DAF XF with the 4 0ver 4 with the half gear .I test driving a Volvo i shift .Its the way to go .The driver can focus on traffic and forget the gear stick .Its a distraction all the gear changes .You never notice until you drive something else .
sorry mistake wrong picture....lol.....i didnt thought that there where so many views of this video it is the reason why i have not change....
thanks for the comments ......your desire are orders for me .....haha
no Don ,you dont need it....it is like a car....haha
but i do it sometime when the box is cold or when i slow down for a round about and i am too fast ,like this i am sure to be in the good one
have a good weekend
Pat
I haven't used my left leg for some time now Pat. Many thanks for the training video......lol
Wishing you and all the family a happy and prosperous new year.
Andy........
i had the eaton fuller on my 2800 in the past...i have enjoyed this transmission
thanks for your comments
P
Patrick!! que camión!! feliz 2013 para vos y tu familia!! Un abrazo Luis.-
THANK YOU Sebastian
happy 2013 to you and your family
Pat
thanks for your comment Simas
a great evening to you too
Pat
30years that i drive a daf ....i have never break anything on the engine or the gearbox....but it is maybe because i dont drive like a beef....-))
Good job have learn many things from you from tanzania
+mudy Ali thank you Ali...-)
Good vid Pat....same box thats in the 105 SSC that i drive. Happy new year to you my friend and keep on trucking. Al
THANK YOU Harry and Lucy
best wishes for 2013 my friend
Good evening sir you are doing a great job I drove 6 tyres Truck but is just 5spend gear sir I will like to be a big Truck Driver sir I'm from Nigeria
I've seen on TV some time last year that you can buy now a DAF with 12 speed manual ZF;) I don't know how popular these box's are, the reversing on the high gear I did was almost seven years ago:D with deliveries to Tesco's now it would be a suicide:D
yes friday i have leave at 10:35 Coalville ,i was near J18 at 11:00
yes Tony ,it can be that one day we are on the same direction
no problem for the coffee...it will be a pleasure
have a good weekend
P
yes ,all is possible,it depends of the weight that you have,it the road is going up and you are heavy ,it is ok like this
Been there got the t-shirt 12/13 &16 including 13 on the column.
thank you,this one is easy to use but i have liked to use the non syncro Fuller in the past......that was driving a truck....haha
someone have started with auto boxes in usa also, i dont remember whic manufactor. but they call it auto-shift :) they still got some way to go, to make them alot better, our autoboxes choose the gears very intelligent after the conditions we have. To see how they make the autoboxes and the development will be interresting :) what i dont understand is american trucks have a distinct whining in the cabin, tha auto-shift had it even it wasnt a automatic, a special sound :)
than,ks ,glad that it can help you
Buying a DAF with an Eaton gearbox is like buying a new laptop and hooking up a typewriter to it
say it to my boss
Excuse me, but I know that Daf uses ZF 16 speed gearboxes....... EATON was a long time ago..
ah yes Jonathan,with this one ,it is just like a car,just a little bit more speeds
thanks for your comment,glad that you have liked it
have a very good new year
Pat
Nice video Patrick, good explanation . Thnaks and happy new year!
Thank you Andy
it is very easy to use and you need not so much power to use with your arm to change the gears on the 105,on the 85 and 95 it is more hard,like a Scania,(my father had a r500 for his last truck ,i have try it ,it was much more hard than my daf)
a video like this gives a lot of work with the titles and the effects,haha.....i had a lot of fun to make it
keep on trucking and filming as well Andy
thanks for the wishes ...the same for you
have a good weekend
Pat
Have a good Day! Please, tell about how do you shift one full gear down before overtaking? Just off the gas - clutch in - shift gear - clutch out and at the same time add gas? No any blipping the throttle and other features?
encore une bonne video... chez nous on a juste 3 Scania avec une boîte de vitesses manuelle... domage... encore une fois bonne année 2013 :)
i dont know...maybe because it is more easy to use...here in europe for the moment it is the auto boxes for original and the manual for option...nearly 75% of the new trucks are now with autoboxes
have a good weekend
P
You the best teacher man
thank you sir.... you helped me alot....... thank you
you are welcome
Great deal of help. Thanks man.
thanks
haha...a daf lolo.....variomatic deluxe
thanks for your comment Bernhard
all the best wishes for you and your family for 2013
now the video work HAHA patrick i always like your audio and this is a nice video about the shifting its very interesting to watch and how it works your cab is not high enought HAHAHAHAHAH say your boss that he buy a super space cab for you LOL i wish you a good new years eve and a nice monday and tuesday @ home see you
Very good Pat. Just as good as Andy's vid, hahaha. Have a good one for 2013 also. Bonne route and KEEPER LIT.............
Nice information delivered 👍🌹👍
FIRST : keep on trucking !!!
SECOND : continue to upload :))
Hi Patrick,
Just I can drive the DAF lolo
Thank´s for the Instruction to drive, nice video!!!
Just I wish You and Your family all the best for the Year 2013
Bernhard&family
thank you my friend
happy new year to you
Pat
i drove a mercedes earlier, i put it in reverse and pulled the joystick too many times when i had the pedal to the floor when i was going backwards a narrow bridge in downhill, cause the car wouldnt wait at the meeting place on the top. so it jumped in highest reverse gear. it was a rigid truck with a trailer, and thank god i was used to drive under container and use reverse a lot :) that was mad, i expected normal speed and not 40 km pr hour!!!!! :D
juste comme une voiture Juergen....-))
merçi pour le commentaire
bon weekend
Pat
thank you
happy 2013
Thanks Pat, very interesting. I need something like that in my office for my breaks. Chilling & shifting, hehe... - Happy New Year to all viewers, followers, subscribers etc...- Best wishes for a wonderful twenty13. :-) - Andy
The whining sound you heard maybe: the turbocharger, or some driveline noise. I like to know if the noise changes pitch with RPM change, then you could narrow down where it comes from.Volvo trucks are popular here.
Don, USA
is your father still drive? how old is he? It's almost like mine family- my grandfather was driver too,my father is,but i only not yet...i have license for trucks,have try it,but somehow i dont like it - situation in Latvian truck driving...
Merçi Jason
bon weekend à toi
Pat
I wish You and Your family all the best for the Year 2013 !!
Nice video Patrick
Quick question: At around 3:15 when you are downshifting, are you keeping the clutch depressed all the time or are you letting it up between every shift?
yes,thanks. nice videos
happy 2013
thanks
have a good week
You made it very clear thanks, all those gears used to confuse me lol :-)
Thanx for video
thank you
the most perfect video for me thanks thanks!!!!!!!!! godluck!!!
Tnx Pat for this video,it was really helpfull...
Good video, all is clear. Thank you good luck!
Basicly it's a 8 speed box but each gear has a half gear split making it a 16 speed it used to scare me shitless when I was a new driver it after a few days driveing it turned out to be dead easy
THANKS FOR THE COMMMENT
have a good week
thank you Andy
have a great 2013
Pat
thank you Tony
happy new year
salut Jason....non la semaine prochaine je suis en regie à Lestrem pour toute la semaine....j etais vendredi en gb j ai fait un tour a Coalville apres Leicester
bon weekend à toi et à la prochaine
Pat
7H is lower gear than 8L?Thanks for the video very useful!Gretings from Greece!
yes i do like this
at 0:33, is an eaton fuller 18speed transmission
Happy new Year Patrick!!!
grazie patrick, anche a te! buona strada :)
Wow..... if i have good info Daf haves a Paccar engines. And gearboxes are from Eaton?
buon'anno Patrick a te e famiglia !
Unusual here,most semi-tractors are the same transmission in your video,I thought most Europeans preferred manuals,especially the autos,here most autos are automatics, trucks non-automatic
If I understand you, you pick a gear either high or low or split to maintain the proper RPM range for your transmission & engine combo? Tach should always read in the green band for good torque and horsepower?
exactly.....but i must say that i do it like this,without thinking ,
With my euro 6 i have not the same torque and the engines runs lower than with the euro 5 it is not exactly the same
very useful for me
Belle vidéo même si je n'est pas tout compris. Elle est bien adaptée pour le travail que tu fais avec se camion?
Romain Pereira ben oui
c est comme ça qu il faut l employer.....mais tu sais ça devient de plus en plus rare les boites manu......d ici 5 ans il y aura des chauffeurs qui n auront rien connu d autres qu une boite auto
Et bientôt plus besoin de chauffeur!
thanks for the comment
happy 2013
thank you
ah yes,sometime in the traffic jam i would prefer an autobox....lol
but i have not yet try it on the road....maybe for my next truck...at the company they make a long test (6months) with the new Actros 1942 and the Daf 105.460 eev ate......both of them with auto boxes....maybe it will be to you to make me training video...haha
i wish you and your family a very good new year 2013
see you AMIGO
pat
good job
Thank you