Doing my Cat C for the second time and really struggling with lane positioning. This has helped me jnderstand it better. Hope I remember when I'm in the truck. Thanks guys for all your hard work and great videos.
Another brilliant, well-made video, thank you. Excellent driving here, very good as a top-up for an oldie like me. The bird's eye view is a really helpful instrucrional tool. Well done!
Just passed my C + E test today and I honestly could not have done it without the help from your videos!! Thank you guys so much for such an informative video and all the other ones that you have made! They were such a big help! :D
Passed my C+E test today, with only 2 faults! Just thought I'd come to your latest video to say thanks for the information you guys put out. Although I had an extremely good instructor, I definitely appreciated these videos. Was watching them months before I actually started driving and it might have given me a leg up. That and Euro Truck Simulator 2 :P
You guys are the best I have seen here, though am already a trailer driver here in Nigeria am still learning a whole lot with you two. Keep up the good work
Cracking video lads! The aerial shots were really good and the classroom breakdown was clear and concise. Well played Keith for tackling the Lombard roundabout, that thing is a flipping nightmare at any time of the day! Signed up last week to do my Cat C with you guys in April and really looking forward to it. Cheers 👍
Dear NDC, i just leave this comment here to thank you for these super helpful and straightforward videos as well as for the professional training what you have provided for me. Shout out for Mr Lee, Mr Paul Mc & Mr Keith, thanks gents! Oh i have just passed my C+E test, currently feeling over the moon. I could only recommend NDC to everyone who seeks to gain an HGV or Bus-Coach license. Once again, in my opinion NDC is the simple best driving school throughout the UK, period. ;)
Thank you so much for your kind words. And a massive well done. Great work on your pass and a real pleasure to instruct. Best of luck for the future stay in touch let us know where you end up. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Kind Regards Paul.
Great video guys I'm training in class 2 at the minute and hate when people don't indicate on roundabouts or speed up to me when I pull out because it will result in a instant fail on a HGV test because it's classed as you are slowing someone down this video really helped keep them coming 😊
Thanks 🙏🏿 to Paul and Keith, you guys are fantastic and a great asset to NDC. You both explained it well, I gained some knowledge from you guys and it will benefit me for my bus driving practical.
I am a Tunisian living in Qatar..and I hope to secure a job as a truck driver in Europe or America...I watched many videos and confess from the first video that you are really the right destination to learn the basics and details of this profession..Thank you for your efforts..I love those who are good at their work, and you Very creative and helpful.. Thank you.
Thanks guys, these videos have really helped me. I have my Bus test next week in Ireland but it's pretty much the same over here as in UK. Thanks again
Warmest greetings to Paul and Keith🤗and the rest of the team. Loved NDC sth London/Croydon. Trained there in 2015 , Awesome 👌 place, passed first time and big thank you to all of you as you were awesome 👌, I'm ever so grateful 🙏 for my destiny to have the pleasure to be taught and Trained by you lot. Never going to forget my experiences and interactions with NDC , wonderful people and life time memories, great stuff 👌👍👏💯❤ wishing you all the very BEST 🤞👍👍👍👏👏👏 ✌❤☘ (Was sent their by Arriva, Thornton Heath) but no longer with them. Kindest regards.
This was pretty entertaining and the drone footage from above is an awesome visual of what is being explained. Makes me want to drive a truck with these guys ;-)
Fantastic video. I've 'shared' this on FaceBook (I hope you don't mind?) because SO many drivers either have always been confused, or have simply forgotten. Like good manners, knowing where to be, what to do, and how to indicate, makes driving so much less stressful for oneself, and all those around you.
Heaven sent. I start my training on Thursday and round about’s stress me out. It seems to me that most training schools don’t have any offices or boardrooms to go through these important bits of information and just take you straight out onto the road. In my opinion that’s dangerous.
Thank you so much, Brian. This is so true, we use an excellent app called Road board with the students to talk through the basics of lane discipline, this is the same app you see on the screen in the video. If you've got any questions, please give us a call. Kind Regards Paul 👍👍👍👍
Hi. You are right to question how many don't brief trainees in the classroom first, this is my experience and I'd have much preferred a briefing like this prior to the driving ,even at the expense of less driving time .
Iv subscribed and liked. I have my class 2 course on 24th July. Im going to keep watching 1 or 2 of your LGV videos a day. Hopefully i should be all ready.
Another useful video. Why do some mini roundabouts have give way markings rather than the single dashed lines? Should it make a difference to how drivers should approach them?
Watched a few vids now, think its brilliant you put these together i enjoy watching the tips! i have my driver training and test next week at gtg wolverhampton fingers crossed🤞🏼
I passed my C+E yesterday, first time. I can absolutely tell you that the main reason I did was because I watched your videos over and over. The reversing, coupling and uncoupling and this awesome roundabout video gave me the in-depth info I needed, they got me the pass. A sincere thank you NDC 🙏🏻😊
@@jonathanwalsh1206 thank you so much, Jonathan and well done. That's absolutely great work. thank you so much again for your kind words it really means a lot. 👍👍
As always really helpful stuff... going for C+E next week and this is a nice wee roundabout refresher. Love the in cab on the road clips like hazard perception live 😊 looks totally different to the classroom board. 👍
@National Driving Centre been checking your work out on the road😊 and that fat line 2 lanes/ thin line one lane is a mega wee tip on approach 👍they're everywhere man!
@24:21 If you are taking the third exit then you use the left hand lane right? Not the right hand lane so that you dont cut across the lane to get to the exit unless there are two lanes on exit? Very useful video, been driving 17 years and these obscure roundabouts like @24:00 always confuse the hell out of me.
Yes, so if the third exit is follow the road ahead, then you would require the left-hand lane on approach. If the wording on approach would be "at the roundabout turning right third exit" then you would require the right-hand lane on approach. On this style of roundabout, you would be relying a lot on the paint on the ground to give you some indication and aid the lane discipline technique. If there are two lanes, taking the exit you require, for example, following the road ahead, then you would be in the left of the choice. Thank you so much Mark we really appreciate your question and your kind words. 👍👍👍👍👍
Good to see the fellas, informative information as always. Very well articulated in a concise manner, many instructors could take a leaf from your book.
Hi guys, I've watched loads of your videos and the reason i came back to this is cos i failed twice now on the same thing, i failed Thursday and just now 😢 what i failed with was, i used a bus as a blocker and a car to my right on the roundabout switched lanes to come around the back of the bus and i had to brake hard to stop and Thursday a car came shooting out at a different roundabout so by time i pulled off the car was on me so i had to brake hard to stop again, rest of the driving was great and i was so proud of it all apart from pulling out in time at roundabouts. Absolutely gutted, any other tips although this video is amazing. Thanks for all the effort you put in. Also ive been taught at mini roundabouts to only signal as i come off it and not to signal when i come on to it, is this wrong because in this video i noticed you said the opposite. Also ive been taught if there is no road marking coming upto a roundabout then i can take the middle of the road but if there are marked lanes i have to stay in the lane. Thanks again
So sorry to hear about that Jake. These roundabouts can be a bit tricky. It can always be a little bit challenging using a large vehicle like a bus as a blocker, because your observation is reduced heavily, (By the Bus) and the chances of a small car or motorcycle creeping round can be quite high. This is especially the case when we test in Croydon south London. If vision on approach to the roundabout is reduced for example buildings or trees then reduce the speed on approach, so the observation can be a lot higher for that speeding car. With regards to mini roundabouts, absolutely not, imagine how you would feel if that vehicle turning left or right didn't indicate on approach, it would be extremely frustrating. Therefore indication on approach is absolutely necessary however, with the mini roundabout indication to leave is not. With regards to paint on the ground, read the highway code. This states if there is no paint on the ground, then left lane for left turn, left lane for straight on. right lane for a right turn. Obviously if it's tight then, of course you would struggle on approach, this is where you're going to use your Position, Speed and Look technique. If there is paint on the ground, giving you a designated lane then this is the lane you should be in. However again if it's tight, then a struggle may be required, depending on the category of vehicle you're driving. Hope this helps if you've got any problems or questions, please give us a call. Kind Regards Paul
Thank you so so much for the reply, I have my class 2 again on Wed 7am then my test again on Wed at 9.38am. Third time lucky and all that lol. You've helped me and so many others out there and we all appreciate it 🙏🏻
Brilliant video im going for my hgv this year and just been trying to get some pre knowledge in before i start the course Hahah not all us m3 owners are that bad on roundabouts 😂 😂
Roundabouts are nightmare people don’t signal or give wrong signals or people over speed on roundabouts.Large roundabouts should be always controlled by traffic lights to prevent disaster.
I failed my PCV test because a car was in the nearside lane on a 2 lane roundabout and I assumed it was coming off. Automatic fail but I only got 1 minor other than that. I really do hate roundabouts
I passed my c + e with the national driving Centre Croydon Great easy people to talk to nice company if you listen you will get the training done and get your pass I had a wonderful instructor called Andy real stand up guy it's always nice to drive in the summer😁
I get this but my examiner on really busy roundabouts put me on a minor for undue hesitation for not going but I always felt on very busy roundabouts of unpredictable vehicles vs a slow class 2 lorry
This can be very true, but this is where you're using your experience. When you say unpredictable vehicles you're thinking of the clues that we look for to tell us where they may go. Remember you're not new at driving. You're just new driving this category so using your experience and looking for the clues to tell you where they may go as for the slow class two lorries, there are many times when they may try and help you, or we can use the slow speed as an advantage. We are not saying this is easy and it takes practice and an understanding of the vehicle that you're driving, for example, how to position it and how fast it will pull away. Hope this helps. Thank you so much for your comment and input. 👍👍👍👍
Another good video. Would an examiner take exception to you confirming where he'd asked you to go by repeating it? Also, if you find yourself in the wrong lane, I take it best practice would be to stay there - even if it means going in the wrong direction (?)
A simple confirmation to confirm you've heard him he's fine I probably wouldn't be repeating the order back verbally, however definitely repeating it back in your head to help build your plan for the roundabout. Yes, if you find yourself in the wrong lane then definitely be prepared to go the wrong way to try and fix a mistake can be extremely more dangerous than just going the wrong way. Thank you so much for your comment and your questions. I hope this helps. Kind Regards Paul 👍👍👍
So nice video but I dont get it with the bus in one of the red bus companies the instructor says on turn right position to the right turning left position to the left the way you sat straddled was for turning left in avoiding the kerb on your left then when you exit in the roundabout the way you exit this is considered that you just had cut off the vehicle on your right even though it will just sit behind you so what is wrong here? Talking about Bexleyheath roundabouts exam routes
I'm so sorry, JC I'm just a little bit confused here. The main thing to remember when navigating a roundabout is the size of your vehicle. If you remember what dictates the lane position, is it the white line or is it the kerb, obviously the kerb is going to be more important, so on approach if you do need to straddle, then absolutely take that defensive positioning. Let's put that aside and now imagine the roundabout it's very large, if there is no paint on the ground and you are turning left at the roundabout then you will require Lane one on approach. If you're following the road ahead second exit, you will still require Lane one on the approach if you're turning right on the roundabout, let's imagine third exit you will require the right hand lane. If there is paint on the ground, then this becomes different, and if you've got two lanes, turning right, then you will require the left-hand lane of the choice. I hope this helps, and if you've got any questions or problems, please give us a call. Kind Regards Paul 👍👍
Failed my test the other day in HGV for not going straight over a mini roundabout when I was taught you have to try going around as much as possible not just drive straight over, now I’m worried for my next test what do I do? Go straight over or try to go around as much as I can without mounting a curb etc my instructor even said I was right to try going around
The best thing to do is trust the highway code, which states make an attempt where possible. There is no point trying to make things extremely difficult for yourself. There is a really good reason why it's a blob of paint. Best of luck for the next one. 🤞🤞👍👍👍
19:06 I should have thought why you do not indicate left on exiting a mini-roundabout when turning right is nothing to do with being busy. Surely it is because all drivers know which way you are going from the beginning and if you did signal on exit there is no time for other drivers to react to your signal. They already know your course anyway.
Unfortunate not Keith, when negotiating a mini roundabout if we were to indicate as we mentioned in the video, the back of the the vehicle may not have entered the roundabout yet, and therefore indicating left at this stage could be misleading for people behind you or approaching the roundabout. As we know from the highway code, an indication indicates intention of direction, it does not always mean that the driver is going to follow through with what they're going to do . Rule 103 Signals warn and inform other road users, including pedestrians of your intended actions. You should always give clear signals in plenty of time, having checked it is NOT MISLEADING to signal at that time use them to ADVISE other road users before changing course or direction, stopping or moving off cancel them after use make sure your signals WILL NOT CONFUSE OTHERS. Remember that signalling does not give you priority. We hope this clears up any confusion. Thank you so much for your input. 👍👍
@@NationalDrivingCentre But drivers already know which way you intend to turn with the initial indication, You are now not signalling because the back of the vehicle has not entered the roundabout? Drivers of any vehicle exiting a mini-roundabout subsequent to turning right are advised not to signal left. This already gives the instruction of what to do not signal on exit. If what you say were true you would have to consider size of min-roundabout and whether you had a short vehicle such as a loose artic tractor then indicate under certain specific circumstances which would be nonsense. Similarly you would be signalling left when driving your car as they are universally short.
Say for example if I take the overtaking lane to turn right a turn right end up on the overtaking lane then move back to the left lane would that be a serious fault in driving test
This would all depend on the size of the roundabout and who is around you and what they do because of what you've done. For example, if there is no one around you when this happens in this could remain as a minor fault. However, when there are other road users around you, this has the potential to put them in danger as well. Also the size of the vehicle, for example, category, C,C1, D or D1 could be okay, however the C+E would give you far too many blind spots making it very difficult to see anyone around you and you are putting them in danger. We hope this helps, if you have any questions please give us a call. Kind Regards Paul.👍👍
@@NationalDrivingCentre i hated it on the motorbike and hate it in the car Pretty sure left lane ends up being 1st 2nd 3rd exit Right lane ends up being 3rd & 4th exit Unless it’s a BMW driver
I understand the left lane left turn instructions what else would you use the left lane for, would it be possible to highlight when the right lane used, I have watched other videos regarding use of right lane I am found I'm getting different instructions for the use of the right lane. Thanks everyone keep up the good work 👌
@@shaynewalsh1950 if there's no paint on the ground, then the left lane can be for left, turns and follow the road ahead, however if there is paint on the ground telling you the left lane is left turn only then obviously alternative lane to go straight on would be required. In the same way, if there is no paint on the ground, the right lane is a right turn only and again, if there's paint on the ground, giving you multiple lanes are turning right down, the left lane of the choice would be required. Obviously, the reason behind this would be, in the right hand lane, knowing that there is a vehicle on a blind side (the left side) doing the same manoeuvre. I hope this helps and clears up any questions. If you've got any points, please give us a call. Kind Regards Paul 👍👍👍👍👍
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I failed my psv for slowing someone down. Done my checks no cars coming from the right. So moved on and a car come flying from the right speeding. Failed me
Im doing my c+e and i hate roundabouts because nobody actually signals. I failed my first exam because someone came in to the roundabout and i went in thinking hes going straight, then he turned right without signaling.
This happens so often, so sorry to hear that. I know it's easy to say after the fact, but just remember the top tips from the video eye contact, speed on approach and Lane discipline. These are all factors that are going to help you decide where these idiots that don't signal could potentially go. Best of luck for the next one hope all goes well 👍👍🤞🤞
Hi I been told by hgv driving instructor that at mini roundabouts you still indicate left if you going straight ahead Is that for real or you are wrong????😂
Unfortunately not, as we said in the video, you are too large to be indicating by the time the front of the vehicle has got onto the roundabout. The rear of the vehicle hasn't even reached the roundabout yet and any indication could be misleading.
The HGV driver who told you that is complete pratt,who doesn't have a clue about roundabouts Indicate LEFT and go straight on! Everyone around you will plan their driving for you turning left,and you don't.
🤔 guys can you draw me a diagram on going, say 🤔 fourth exit on Swindon magic roundabout? 😂😂😂😂😂 There are two more I know about Hatton Cross and High Wycombe
Doing my Cat C for the second time and really struggling with lane positioning. This has helped me jnderstand it better. Hope I remember when I'm in the truck. Thanks guys for all your hard work and great videos.
Thank you so much. Best of luck for the test🤞🤞👍👍👍
Another brilliant, well-made video, thank you. Excellent driving here, very good as a top-up for an oldie like me. The bird's eye view is a really helpful instrucrional tool. Well done!
Thank you so much, comments like this make it worth it 👍👍👍🙏🙏
This week I was doing my hgv test and yesterday I seen tour channel
Today I passed my test for the first time
After watching this can I say thank you.
Great work, and a big well done. Thank you so much 👍👍👍👍👍
Just passed my C + E test today and I honestly could not have done it without the help from your videos!! Thank you guys so much for such an informative video and all the other ones that you have made! They were such a big help! :D
Great work, and a big well done 👍👍👍. Thank you so much for your kind words.
Passed my C+E test today, with only 2 faults! Just thought I'd come to your latest video to say thanks for the information you guys put out. Although I had an extremely good instructor, I definitely appreciated these videos. Was watching them months before I actually started driving and it might have given me a leg up. That and Euro Truck Simulator 2 :P
Thank you so much, and a big well done👍👍 great work.
My instructor rushed me at a roundabout today. Far from professional so I called him an A Class Wanker! You guys are brilliant. Patience is key 👌🏾
So true 👍👍
@@NationalDrivingCentre Long story short. Went back today and he's in a lot of shit and I got a new instructer 😂👌🏾
@@ashleybenjamin4033 Perfect. Hope all goes well 👍👍
You guys are the best I have seen here, though am already a trailer driver here in Nigeria am still learning a whole lot with you two. Keep up the good work
Thank you so much, we will do 👍👍👍👍
I'm really enjoying you training, I m benefiting a lot will be starting my practical 2 weeks to come keep on good work
Thank you so much that really means a lot. Best of luck for the training let us know how you get on. 👍👍👍👍👍
Cracking video lads!
The aerial shots were really good and the classroom breakdown was clear and concise.
Well played Keith for tackling the Lombard roundabout, that thing is a flipping nightmare at any time of the day!
Signed up last week to do my Cat C with you guys in April and really looking forward to it.
Cheers 👍
Thank you so much. 👍👍 Best of luck for the training 👍👍
Dear NDC, i just leave this comment here to thank you for these super helpful and straightforward videos as well as for the professional training what you have provided for me. Shout out for Mr Lee, Mr Paul Mc & Mr Keith, thanks gents! Oh i have just passed my C+E test, currently feeling over the moon. I could only recommend NDC to everyone who seeks to gain an HGV or Bus-Coach license. Once again, in my opinion NDC is the simple best driving school throughout the UK, period. ;)
Thank you so much for your kind words. And a massive well done. Great work on your pass and a real pleasure to instruct.
Best of luck for the future stay in touch let us know where you end up.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Kind Regards Paul.
Great video guys I'm training in class 2 at the minute and hate when people don't indicate on roundabouts or speed up to me when I pull out because it will result in a instant fail on a HGV test because it's classed as you are slowing someone down this video really helped keep them coming 😊
Thank you so much Luke, Some great points, this can make it very challenging. 👍👍🤞🤞
You guys are brilliant. Much appreciated 🙏🏻 my own instructor did not explain in that detail, hats off 👏
Thank you so much, thats means a great deal. Lets hope he has NRI (National register for instructors) 👍👍👍
Thanks 🙏🏿 to Paul and Keith, you guys are fantastic and a great asset to NDC. You both explained it well, I gained some knowledge from you guys and it will benefit me for my bus driving practical.
Thank you so much and big well done 👍👍👍👍 Kind Regards Paul.
I am a Tunisian living in Qatar..and I hope to secure a job as a truck driver in Europe or America...I watched many videos and confess from the first video that you are really the right destination to learn the basics and details of this profession..Thank you for your efforts..I love those who are good at their work, and you Very creative and helpful.. Thank you.
Thank you so much for your kind words it really means a lot. 👍👍
Thanks guys, these videos have really helped me. I have my Bus test next week in Ireland but it's pretty much the same over here as in UK. Thanks again
No problem, Thank you so much and best of luck for the tests 👍🤞🤞👍👍👍 let us know how you get on 👍
Got my test on Thursday this is helping me good I need to pass first time thank you again.
Thank you so much. Best of luck 🤞🤞🤞👍👍👍👍
Warmest greetings to Paul and Keith🤗and the rest of the team.
Loved NDC sth London/Croydon. Trained there in 2015 , Awesome 👌 place, passed first time and big thank you to all of you as you were awesome 👌, I'm ever so grateful 🙏 for my destiny to have the pleasure to be taught and Trained by you lot. Never going to forget my experiences and interactions with NDC , wonderful people and life time memories, great stuff 👌👍👏💯❤ wishing you all the very BEST 🤞👍👍👍👏👏👏
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(Was sent their by Arriva, Thornton Heath) but no longer with them.
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This was pretty entertaining and the drone footage from above is an awesome visual of what is being explained. Makes me want to drive a truck with these guys ;-)
Thank you so much 👍👍👍
Fantastic video. I've 'shared' this on FaceBook (I hope you don't mind?) because SO many drivers either have always been confused, or have simply forgotten. Like good manners, knowing where to be, what to do, and how to indicate, makes driving so much less stressful for oneself, and all those around you.
Thank you so much.👍👍👍👍Thats perfect Eddie, you are very kind.
This is a nice refresher training guys. Thank you. Loving content from 🇰🇪
Thank you so much 👍👍
Heaven sent. I start my training on Thursday and round about’s stress me out. It seems to me that most training schools don’t have any offices or boardrooms to go through these important bits of information and just take you straight out onto the road. In my opinion that’s dangerous.
Thank you so much, Brian. This is so true, we use an excellent app called Road board with the students to talk through the basics of lane discipline, this is the same app you see on the screen in the video. If you've got any questions, please give us a call. Kind Regards Paul 👍👍👍👍
Hi.
You are right to question how many don't brief trainees in the classroom first, this is my experience and I'd have much preferred a briefing like this prior to the driving ,even at the expense of less driving time .
Thank you so much for this video. After watching this video I know more about how to pass my hgv test.
Thank you so much. This is exactly why we made it. 👍👍👍👍👍
Excellent video, these are helping me no end to getting my my class 2.. Thanks NDC wish I was closer to you
Thank you so much, so glad it helps. It's always worth a trip 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍
Iv subscribed and liked. I have my class 2 course on 24th July. Im going to keep watching 1 or 2 of your LGV videos a day. Hopefully i should be all ready.
Best of luck for the course. thank you so much.
Another useful video. Why do some mini roundabouts have give way markings rather than the single dashed lines? Should it make a difference to how drivers should approach them?
Thank you so much. this should not make a difference to the basic roundabout approach. 👍👍
Watched a few vids now, think its brilliant you put these together i enjoy watching the tips! i have my driver training and test next week at gtg wolverhampton fingers crossed🤞🏼
Thank you so much, best of the the training and test. 👍👍🤞🤞
@NationalDrivingCentre thanks passed first time! Very helpful videos. 👍🏻
Great work, well done 👍👍👍@@familyfirst4727
Well done for a great video. Thank you Keith and Paul for helping me with class 2 and 1.
You are more than welcome. Than you so much👍
Really great video with amazing split screen detail, many, many thanks.
Thank you so much Jonathan, it's good to see people appreciate the detail 🧐🧐👍👍
I passed my C+E yesterday, first time. I can absolutely tell you that the main reason I did was because I watched your videos over and over. The reversing, coupling and uncoupling and this awesome roundabout video gave me the in-depth info I needed, they got me the pass. A sincere thank you NDC 🙏🏻😊
@@jonathanwalsh1206 thank you so much, Jonathan and well done. That's absolutely great work. thank you so much again for your kind words it really means a lot. 👍👍
As always really helpful stuff... going for C+E next week and this is a nice wee roundabout refresher. Love the in cab on the road clips like hazard perception live 😊 looks totally different to the classroom board. 👍
Thank you so much Jock. 👍👍👍👍
@National Driving Centre been checking your work out on the road😊 and that fat line 2 lanes/ thin line one lane is a mega wee tip on approach 👍they're everywhere man!
@@jockforster 🧐🧐👍👍👍
Cracking video as always lads! Just in time as well as I’m moving house next week then I’m going for my class one licence thanks again!
Thank you so much Tom. You are more than welcome. Best of luck hope all goes well.👍👍👍👍
@24:21 If you are taking the third exit then you use the left hand lane right? Not the right hand lane so that you dont cut across the lane to get to the exit unless there are two lanes on exit?
Very useful video, been driving 17 years and these obscure roundabouts like @24:00 always confuse the hell out of me.
Yes, so if the third exit is follow the road ahead, then you would require the left-hand lane on approach. If the wording on approach would be "at the roundabout turning right third exit" then you would require the right-hand lane on approach.
On this style of roundabout, you would be relying a lot on the paint on the ground to give you some indication and aid the lane discipline technique.
If there are two lanes, taking the exit you require, for example, following the road ahead, then you would be in the left of the choice.
Thank you so much Mark we really appreciate your question and your kind words. 👍👍👍👍👍
Brilliant video guys. Really helpful. Thank you.
Thank you so much Andy, 👍👍👍👍👍
Good to see the fellas, informative information as always.
Very well articulated in a concise manner, many instructors could take a leaf from your book.
Thank you so much.👍👍👍👍very kind David.
Yes, the detailed clear explanations form these guys appear to be a cut above what others and myself have experienced
Never had to do a test in a 7.5, , whole different ball game compl3tly..., thanks 4 the video..
Thank you so much. Thats lucky, just make sure there is no 101 restriction on the back. 👍👍
No. Just, c1. C,,, 1E,, CE,, i passed my driving test 1n 1991. Drove for xl,argos from 1999,
Hi guys, I've watched loads of your videos and the reason i came back to this is cos i failed twice now on the same thing, i failed Thursday and just now 😢 what i failed with was, i used a bus as a blocker and a car to my right on the roundabout switched lanes to come around the back of the bus and i had to brake hard to stop and Thursday a car came shooting out at a different roundabout so by time i pulled off the car was on me so i had to brake hard to stop again, rest of the driving was great and i was so proud of it all apart from pulling out in time at roundabouts. Absolutely gutted, any other tips although this video is amazing. Thanks for all the effort you put in. Also ive been taught at mini roundabouts to only signal as i come off it and not to signal when i come on to it, is this wrong because in this video i noticed you said the opposite. Also ive been taught if there is no road marking coming upto a roundabout then i can take the middle of the road but if there are marked lanes i have to stay in the lane. Thanks again
So sorry to hear about that Jake. These roundabouts can be a bit tricky. It can always be a little bit challenging using a large vehicle like a bus as a blocker, because your observation is reduced heavily, (By the Bus) and the chances of a small car or motorcycle creeping round can be quite high. This is especially the case when we test in Croydon south London. If vision on approach to the roundabout is reduced for example buildings or trees then reduce the speed on approach, so the observation can be a lot higher for that speeding car. With regards to mini roundabouts, absolutely not, imagine how you would feel if that vehicle turning left or right didn't indicate on approach, it would be extremely frustrating. Therefore indication on approach is absolutely necessary however, with the mini roundabout indication to leave is not.
With regards to paint on the ground, read the highway code. This states if there is no paint on the ground, then left lane for left turn, left lane for straight on. right lane for a right turn. Obviously if it's tight then, of course you would struggle on approach, this is where you're going to use your Position, Speed and Look technique. If there is paint on the ground, giving you a designated lane then this is the lane you should be in. However again if it's tight, then a struggle may be required, depending on the category of vehicle you're driving. Hope this helps if you've got any problems or questions, please give us a call.
Kind Regards Paul
Thank you so so much for the reply, I have my class 2 again on Wed 7am then my test again on Wed at 9.38am. Third time lucky and all that lol. You've helped me and so many others out there and we all appreciate it 🙏🏻
@@JakeC08 No problem at all.Best of luck 👍👍🤞🤞🤞
@NationalDrivingCentre I did pass this morning, only got 1 minor too 😁 absolutely buzzing. Thanks again guys
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Very helpful videos as ill be sitting my cat CE soon and these are spot on 👍
Thank you so much and the best of luck 👍👍👍🤞🤞🤞🤞
Amazing video lots of educational before starting the course .
Thank you NDC
Thank you so much. No problem at all. Best of luck for the training. 👍👍🤞🤞
This will be a big help to pass my test, thank you
You are more than welcome . best of luck🤞🤞👍👍👍
Binge watching your channel now as i’m hoping to go in for my HGV license at some point this year or next just gotta save another grand 😅😅
Best of luck hope it all goes well if you've got any questions or problems please give us a call. Kind Regards Paul 👍👍👍
@@NationalDrivingCentre thank you 😊 even if i don’t get a driving job straight away i’d still have the HGV license 😁
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Well explained..Kudos
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Brilliant video im going for my hgv this year and just been trying to get some pre knowledge in before i start the course
Hahah not all us m3 owners are that bad on roundabouts 😂 😂
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Amazing job guys. thank you for sharing.. keep up
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That BMW M3 can go anywhere even when it indicates left 😂😂😂😂😂😂 made my day ( btw I drive Skoda estate ) you've got a sub. 👏👏👏
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amazing videos they helped me so much to pass my class 1 well done 👏
Thank you so much. Well done👍 great work.
Perfect timing for me, really helpful, thanks 👍
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Roundabouts are nightmare people don’t signal or give wrong signals or people over speed on roundabouts.Large roundabouts should be always controlled by traffic lights to prevent disaster.
Some good points, thank you 👍👍
I failed my PCV test because a car was in the nearside lane on a 2 lane roundabout and I assumed it was coming off. Automatic fail but I only got 1 minor other than that. I really do hate roundabouts
Thanks guy this was really informative and helpful :)
No problem at all.
Brilliant video guys
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Nice work gentleman, if that isn't clear enough I don't know what is.
Thank you so much Michael, we do hope so👍👍
I passed my c + e with the national driving Centre Croydon Great easy people to talk to nice company if you listen you will get the training done and get your pass I had a wonderful instructor called Andy real stand up guy it's always nice to drive in the summer😁
Thank you so much for your kind and honest words, it really means a lot. 👍👍👍 and well done.
Really engaging video guys, thank you 👍
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Thanks to sharing! Really helpful 👍
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Really helpful video thanks guys keep it up I’m doing roundabout bus Tranining
You are more than welcome. best of luck for the training.👍👍👍👍
I get this but my examiner on really busy roundabouts put me on a minor for undue hesitation for not going but I always felt on very busy roundabouts of unpredictable vehicles vs a slow class 2 lorry
This can be very true, but this is where you're using your experience. When you say unpredictable vehicles you're thinking of the clues that we look for to tell us where they may go. Remember you're not new at driving. You're just new driving this category so using your experience and looking for the clues to tell you where they may go as for the slow class two lorries, there are many times when they may try and help you, or we can use the slow speed as an advantage.
We are not saying this is easy and it takes practice and an understanding of the vehicle that you're driving, for example, how to position it and how fast it will pull away. Hope this helps. Thank you so much for your comment and input. 👍👍👍👍
@@NationalDrivingCentre well I have an hour before a re-test so I’ll work on the roundabouts which has been my main issue
Another good video. Would an examiner take exception to you confirming where he'd asked you to go by repeating it? Also, if you find yourself in the wrong lane, I take it best practice would be to stay there - even if it means going in the wrong direction (?)
A simple confirmation to confirm you've heard him he's fine I probably wouldn't be repeating the order back verbally, however definitely repeating it back in your head to help build your plan for the roundabout. Yes, if you find yourself in the wrong lane then definitely be prepared to go the wrong way to try and fix a mistake can be extremely more dangerous than just going the wrong way. Thank you so much for your comment and your questions. I hope this helps. Kind Regards Paul 👍👍👍
Great job guys.
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So nice video but I dont get it with the bus in one of the red bus companies the instructor says on turn right position to the right turning left position to the left the way you sat straddled was for turning left in avoiding the kerb on your left then when you exit in the roundabout the way you exit this is considered that you just had cut off the vehicle on your right even though it will just sit behind you so what is wrong here? Talking about Bexleyheath roundabouts exam routes
I'm so sorry, JC I'm just a little bit confused here. The main thing to remember when navigating a roundabout is the size of your vehicle. If you remember what dictates the lane position, is it the white line or is it the kerb, obviously the kerb is going to be more important, so on approach if you do need to straddle, then absolutely take that defensive positioning.
Let's put that aside and now imagine the roundabout it's very large, if there is no paint on the ground and you are turning left at the roundabout then you will require Lane one on approach. If you're following the road ahead second exit, you will still require Lane one on the approach if you're turning right on the roundabout, let's imagine third exit you will require the right hand lane.
If there is paint on the ground, then this becomes different, and if you've got two lanes, turning right, then you will require the left-hand lane of the choice. I hope this helps, and if you've got any questions or problems, please give us a call. Kind Regards Paul 👍👍
Failed my test the other day in HGV for not going straight over a mini roundabout when I was taught you have to try going around as much as possible not just drive straight over, now I’m worried for my next test what do I do? Go straight over or try to go around as much as I can without mounting a curb etc my instructor even said I was right to try going around
The best thing to do is trust the highway code, which states make an attempt where possible. There is no point trying to make things extremely difficult for yourself. There is a really good reason why it's a blob of paint. Best of luck for the next one. 🤞🤞👍👍👍
Thanks for the video it's helpful 🙂
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19:06 I should have thought why you do not indicate left on exiting a mini-roundabout when turning right is nothing to do with being busy. Surely it is because all drivers know which way you are going from the beginning and if you did signal on exit there is no time for other drivers to react to your signal. They already know your course anyway.
Unfortunate not Keith, when negotiating a mini roundabout if we were to indicate as we mentioned in the video, the back of the the vehicle may not have entered the roundabout yet, and therefore indicating left at this stage could be misleading for people behind you or approaching the roundabout. As we know from the highway code, an indication indicates intention of direction, it does not always mean that the driver is going to follow through with what they're going to do .
Rule 103
Signals warn and inform other road users, including pedestrians of your intended actions.
You should always give clear signals in plenty of time, having checked it is NOT MISLEADING to signal at that time
use them to ADVISE other road users before changing course or direction, stopping or moving off
cancel them after use
make sure your signals WILL NOT CONFUSE OTHERS. Remember that signalling does not give you priority.
We hope this clears up any confusion. Thank you so much for your input. 👍👍
@@NationalDrivingCentre But drivers already know which way you intend to turn with the initial indication, You are now not signalling because the back of the vehicle has not entered the roundabout? Drivers of any vehicle exiting a mini-roundabout subsequent to turning right are advised not to signal left. This already gives the instruction of what to do not signal on exit. If what you say were true you would have to consider size of min-roundabout and whether you had a short vehicle such as a loose artic tractor then indicate under certain specific circumstances which would be nonsense. Similarly you would be signalling left when driving your car as they are universally short.
Say for example if I take the overtaking lane to turn right a turn right end up on the overtaking lane then move back to the left lane would that be a serious fault in driving test
This would all depend on the size of the roundabout and who is around you and what they do because of what you've done. For example, if there is no one around you when this happens in this could remain as a minor fault. However, when there are other road users around you, this has the potential to put them in danger as well.
Also the size of the vehicle, for example, category, C,C1, D or D1 could be okay, however the C+E would give you far too many blind spots making it very difficult to see anyone around you and you are putting them in danger.
We hope this helps, if you have any questions please give us a call. Kind Regards Paul.👍👍
@@NationalDrivingCentre thank you so much guys passed it on my second go very grateful for these videos
@@olivia7159 Great work, well done👍👍👍
24:45 that looks Like a roundabout in Rotherham 😅 i hate that bloody roundabout too no one ever seems to be in the right late when entering it
Exactly, right, yes, it is a bit of a challenge🤬🤣🤣👍👍.
@@NationalDrivingCentre i hated it on the motorbike and hate it in the car
Pretty sure left lane ends up being 1st 2nd 3rd exit
Right lane ends up being 3rd & 4th exit
Unless it’s a BMW driver
Thank you for this tutorial
You are more than welcome 👍👍👍
Did Paul appear as a guest on a tv show called , hell on the highway ?
Yes i did👍👍👍😬😬😬 what did you think?🤞
@@NationalDrivingCentre it was good 👍🏻
LOL The irony of that car pulling out on the Iveco in the intro 😂
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Excellent, need more field legible videos
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I love it thanks 👍👍🙏🙏
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Do you have footage of parking on the left and moving off thanks all.
Not at the moment. Thats one for the future 👍👍
I understand the left lane left turn instructions what else would you use the left lane for, would it be possible to highlight when the right lane used, I have watched other videos regarding use of right lane I am found I'm getting different instructions for the use of the right lane.
Thanks everyone keep up the good work 👌
@@shaynewalsh1950 if there's no paint on the ground, then the left lane can be for left, turns and follow the road ahead, however if there is paint on the ground telling you the left lane is left turn only then obviously alternative lane to go straight on would be required. In the same way, if there is no paint on the ground, the right lane is a right turn only and again, if there's paint on the ground, giving you multiple lanes are turning right down, the left lane of the choice would be required. Obviously, the reason behind this would be, in the right hand lane, knowing that there is a vehicle on a blind side (the left side) doing the same manoeuvre. I hope this helps and clears up any questions. If you've got any points, please give us a call. Kind Regards Paul 👍👍👍👍👍
How can I pass the visual examination? Are there courses for this?
Sorry, not quite sure what you mean?
@NationalDrivingCentre I mean how can I get through? Theory Test LGV
When you book the course with us we will supply you with the DTS anytime online Theory platform. We will book all of this for you but you can book this yourself . www.dtsanytime.co.uk/home.aspx @@maheermaheer1016
Very informative and helpful video guys; roundabouts give me the willies.
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❤good work
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The highway code also states indicate to let other road users know tou are leaving the roundabout 🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Excellent mates
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Need help leaving everything about aroundabouts Pam what you lane into go in the right direction and lane
Please give us a call. Kind Regards Paul
Please give us a call. Kind Regards Paul
Really helpful thank you.
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Good job
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I failed my psv for slowing someone down. Done my checks no cars coming from the right. So moved on and a car come flying from the right speeding. Failed me
So sorry to hear that. Hopefully next time 🤞👍👍
Im doing my c+e and i hate roundabouts because nobody actually signals. I failed my first exam because someone came in to the roundabout and i went in thinking hes going straight, then he turned right without signaling.
This happens so often, so sorry to hear that. I know it's easy to say after the fact, but just remember the top tips from the video eye contact, speed on approach and Lane discipline. These are all factors that are going to help you decide where these idiots that don't signal could potentially go. Best of luck for the next one hope all goes well 👍👍🤞🤞
@@NationalDrivingCentre thank you so much! Thanks for the advice and the videos!
Grate job thx
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The best tips
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Great
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Five seconds in and the blue car messes up already lol 😂
Unbelievable 👍👍
Hi I been told by hgv driving instructor that at mini roundabouts you still indicate left if you going straight ahead
Is that for real or you are wrong????😂
Unfortunately not, as we said in the video, you are too large to be indicating by the time the front of the vehicle has got onto the roundabout. The rear of the vehicle hasn't even reached the roundabout yet and any indication could be misleading.
The HGV driver who told you that is complete pratt,who doesn't have a clue about roundabouts
Indicate LEFT and go straight on!
Everyone around you will plan their driving for you turning left,and you don't.
Any new training videos on the way
Sorry, they are in the pipeline 👍👍👍
Spiral roundabouts tend to confuse people.
Very true, they can be very confusing at times. 👍👍
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I left my trucker hat in the cab after I passed my test .😅😁
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YAY KEITH
What a star👍👍👍
You forgot to mention the rule that Audi & BMW drivers can cut across the lanes without indicators.
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And Tesla!!
🤔 guys can you draw me a diagram on going, say 🤔 fourth exit on Swindon magic roundabout?
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There are two more I know about Hatton Cross and High Wycombe
No problem whatsoever come on down and see us and we'll go through this roundabout in detail. 👍👍👍
Cold in the office Paul ? :P
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Send this video to Audi drivers
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BMW “we know what they’re like” 😂😂
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I hope Irish schools are as good as these guys
I hope so. if not it its worth the trip to the big smoke.👍👍👍👍
WE WANT STEVE G + more keith
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We just gonna ignore the intro? 😂
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✋ *Promo SM*
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Only English wear t shirt under polo t shirt
Very true, it does get a bit round here 🤣🤣🧐
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