I installed void after watching your video and have been running it as my daily driver for a few days now. I'm so glad that I did. Void is awesome! I had a few hiccups but I was easily able to find out how to fix them. Void reminds me of the old days of arch Linux, and I missed those days. Back when arch had a ncurses installer and wasn't hell bent on making their distro so complex via removing great things like the beginners guide. Void feels nice and simple, faster and lighter than my arch install. I think I might stick with it for a while.
"and me and the distro clicked and I don't know why" I know that feeling , running Mabox linux for year from the first time ,o yeah this is what would I made kind of vibe :D thanks for showing us the Void :)
Really happy than you decided to look at void and even keep it at your machine I wanna give a heads up about what to expect because void is actually quite different than arch. people describe arch as minimal but the only thing minimal about arch is the installer really arch bundle dev files and binaries together (something I've yet to see another distro doing) it also pulls quite a bit of optional dependencies by default that's why a server fedora or debian install will always be lighter than arch. void however is even more minimal than debian or fedora it only pulls EXACTLY what you want it to and unlike arch it doesn't list optional packages for you so you know what to install so yeah I think it's safe to say it's geared toward advanced users. If you install the lxterminal for example on a window manager on a base install and try to click on the preferences nothing will pop up that's because you are missing an icon package but it won't even tell you what's wrong it just won't work so be prepared for a challenge otb :)
@@OldTechBloke what @'Programming xhero' says is true even for a hotspot wifi connection that is set up correctly but it does not work, even when the ufw is also set correctly and just because a needed package is not installed. Void won't tell what you have to install. I think that is a serious bad thing that should be addressed in some way. Otherwise, Void is a nice place to escape to. I use it with Cinnamon tuned with themes and icons stolen form LMDE 4 so my Void is now dark and elegant.
I've been playing with it in a VM for a couple of weeks, It's been really good so far. I am using the enlightenment version of Void and all I can say is... it is an interesting DE.
I'm using it with dwm, just loving it. no need to worry about a lots of time that arch consume to get it install and gentoo also. debian is awesome, void is the best ❤️
Thanks for trying out VOID, I have been wanting to. Great information and overview. The musl libc is I think geared for router type activities(IDS, Router, Firewall etc..) this is where its sleek speed and lightweight comes in. It removes the backward compatibility with older stuff and cuts out less used stuff from glibc, Alpine also uses it. But being MIPS(not ARM, would be nice to have this arch-type. ) you can install it on a lot of small home routers, so for GUI is a nice to have for this type of system, but not it primary scope, but covers it rather well.
Another great video review. I put Void on my old Toshiba to play around with over the weekend as a result. So far i totally agree that it feels like a middle ground between Linux and BSD.
Im currently playing with Mint through Virtual Box about to make my first plunge to a Linux only system. I have a Windows laptop for work, so I am curious about setting up "my own" system.
Best of luck Sean. Void may be a bit of a challenge if you’re relatively new to Linux, but just be prepared to do the leg work in terms of research and you’ll get there
I am glad to see there is a video about void in these days. I switched to void because i was looking for arch like os without system d. I having good time with it. There are some stuff i struggling to get right for me. Like emoji support in dwmblocks as libxft-bgra not available in repositories. I am also trying xmonad on it but for some reason it wont understanding keybinds for restarting it config. I dont know what i do whether to leave it and go on to artix for full time. But for reason i really like the feel of it and cant put it out into words. Just like you.
@TDL What you could try is creating a VM with Archlinux or an Arch based distro. Build the package from the AUR either manually or through a wrapper like yay or trizen. Then move the file between the guest and the host either by guest additions, or by scp or send it by email to yourself as an attachment. When in Void untar it and move the folders and files with the right permissions and ownership to the right location for Void. Another method would be to use the famous trilogy: ./configure, make and as root make install. For this you need the source tarball of the package you want to create and all the development tools for creating it. Cheers
@@serge5046 Thanks, there are tons of aur packages which arent available in void linux repositories. I can make them available with this method via xbps-src in repo. Just need to do little bit more research for this to work.
Can you make us a episode on your current desktop setup....looks awesome...the most compact all text desktop ever. love the topbar...show us this too!!
i like to have void as a vm to play arround with, i'm not entirely sure about but i think the reason why i like it it's very straight forward and it's lightning fast and snappy and ressource saving, it reminds me a bit to arch and although it's not even that convenient it feels easier to use for me and also more stable, i tend to break it from time to time but i'm pretty sure usually it was not voids fault but some weird vbox stuff, and yea, a new install is 3 minutes and with ready to use configs you have a complete system running to your likings in less than 30 mins, that's just awesome
I was born in Galicia (Spain) and I speak Galician, Portuguese and Spanish; but I don't speak English... so I write the commentary in Spanish and this is a translation made with Deepl. I hope it is understood in general terms. I don't have big problems with systemd... but I'm on UNIX OS and UNIX-Like since 1985 I started on Linux* with Slackware in 1994 and I still have a SalixOS on one of my laptops. Maybe that's why, what I do have is a prejudice!! I don't like unnecessary software and much less being imposed! Now I'm retired... and as a "home" user I don't need an init that launches 10, 20, 30 more processes!! that "supervises" other processes and demons!! systemd does that!! it loads my CPU with unnecessary work. I need an init to boot my computer and start some daemons. I'm already there to supervise!! And... although I understand that companies like Red Hat and Canonical agree to "impose" systemd as a standard; it may be convenient for them to deploy other standards that are on their way to impose such as Flatpak and Snap... but I as an end user am not interested! And as an end user I didn't understand why (non-business) development groups; like Debian or Arch, also went through the hoop!! and accepted the imposition of systemd; when they could have left versions for home users without systemd! Anyway, as the author of the video says (very honestly); Void Linux is much more than a distribution without systemd. Although I can't express with two words why I feel comfortable with Void Linux. I guess it is mostly because of my experience with UNIX and Slackware; although in the last 25 years I have tried many GNU/Linux-like OSes. Cheers!! Comentario original: Nací en Galicia (España) hablo gallego, portugués y español; pero no domino el inglés... así que escribo el comentario en español y esto que sigue es una traducción hecha con Deepl. Espero que se entienda en líneas generales. Yo no tengo grandes problemas con systemd... pero estoy en OS UNIX y UNIX-Like desde 1985 comencé en los Linux* con Slackware en 1994 y aún sigo con una SalixOS en uno de mis portátiles. Quizá por eso, lo que si tengo es un prejuicio!! no me gusta el software innecesario y mucho menos que me lo impongan!! Ahora estoy jubilado... y como usuario "home" no necesito un init que lance 10, 20, 30 procesos más!! que "supervise" a otros procesos y demonios!! systemd hace eso!! carga mi CPU de trabajo innecesario. Necesito un init que arranque mi computadora e inicie algunos demonios. Para supervisar ya estoy yo!! Y... aunque entiendo que empresas como Red Hat y Canonical se pongan de acuerdo para "imponer" systemd como un estándar; es posible que les convenga para desplegar otros estándares que van camino de imponer como Flatpak y Snap... pero a mi como usuario final no me interesa!! Y como usuario final no entendí por qué grupos de desarrollo (no empresariales); como Debian o Arch, también pasaron por el aro!! y aceptaron la imposición de systemd; cuando podrían haber dejado versiones para usuarios caseros sin systemd!! De todas formas, como dice el autor del video (muy honesto); Void Linux es bastante más que una distribución sin systemd. Aunque yo tampoco pueda expresar con dos palabras porqué me siento a gusto con Void Linux. Imagino que en buena parte es por mi experiencia con UNIX y Slackware; aunque en los últimos 25 años he probado muchos OS del tipo GNU/Linux. Salutem!!
I’ve never thought of this before but you sound like one of the guys from top gear! Void Linux is rock solid, superior to arch in many ways. XBPS is amazing and runit is lightning fast. I always prefer installing the base iso and building it up from there. I’ve done different builds with void - xfce, cinnamon, KDE - all with no issues. Hell! Even gnome without systemd runs on it! Although the latest package is not available so readily as gnome is a difficult little monster.
Could this OS be a good choice for a old laptop that has Windows XP OS? I want to use this laptop as a daily driver because is still a very nice laptop. But I want to install another OS because I heard that XP is not safe to be used for internet use.
Try BodhiOS if you want something easy to use and have a really old laptop. If it's not that old, Lubuntu you should be fine. But if you want something to work on, try Void.
Great video Steve. I had a similar experience last year. I installed void in a VM just to play and loved it. However I never installed it on a real machine (yet)
I'm not but I'll tell you why. These one man distros lack not only support but lack independent review on a large scale. You don't really know what's in them while distros like Ubuntu, Mint, MX Linux etc get examined with a fine tooth comb and instantly the community finds something wrong, it's outed, and quickly fixed. Support for these small distros is shaky at best. With distros like Void this, you really don't know, if something breaks, it's really up to one person to fix. I doubt if anyone actually goes through the code on this distro and others like it.
@@tenfourproductionsllc Its not maintained by one person. It has a huge community behind it which maintain it keeps it updated. And the main developer actually left the project for some reason and now it is maintain by community independantly.
@@soulofhogwarts there are couple of core developers. The developer behind xbps went missing for quite some time without any contact with others and when he returned they had arguements and he/she decided to maintain xbps separately
Hello. Tks for this good review. Void is a good distro. Tried it a few months ago on vm. Unfortunately it suffers from many bugs sometimes hard to solve. Anyway worth a try without a doubt.
i tried an arch distro for 4 months I couldn't come to doing anything productive because i had no prior linux experience. 2 months later and now I am playing with void mostly for learning sake.
The whole thing reminds me of Arch as in the terminal commands and octopi the graphical front end to pacman for QT based systems. I use a Arch system that is also sysd free and I use runit as well. I've stuck this on gnome boxes and will play around with it when I get more time. I'm hoping gnome boxes plays a little better than virtual box which is often the case.
@Garth It would be better to install qemu + kvm + virt-manager. You will need to install dnsmasq and ebtables and bridge-utils as well. To get a bridge access read this article: computingforgeeks.com/how-to-create-and-configure-bridge-networking-for-kvm-in-linux/ Method 1 works quite well! Here is how to use virt-manager: www.maketecheasier.com/how-to-use-virtual-machine-manager-linux/ Cheers
Been running Void for about a year and half, first on the laptop but nowadays on my homelab-server. Simplicity at it's best! I am loving it, I find that it's relatively easy to find information elsewhere (for example Arch wiki) and apply it to Void. Systemd-free is definitely a win in my opinion, but I don't really want to get into that in this comment. Additionally, I would like to add, that I found the IRC chat to be a valuable resource as well! (freenode #voidlinux)
I think it could become a bigger distro. But as it is right now there are too many paper cuts when opening the box. Once its setup its great. But the installation + the error you faced and the docs being a bit behind makes it harder to get setup.
Yeah, the policykit error greeting you on a fresh install is ugly as hell. They should probably update the ISOs with elogind installed by default or something.
I pretty much think that Void Linux is where UNIX should have been today! But with an UNIX kernel and root partition settable as read-only partition. Void now keeps me away from NetBSD and DragonFlyBSD. For how much long? Don't know yet but hopefully, for as much as possible.
hmmm.. though im still very much a noob..this seems to be interesting and sorta fits with my love of all things miminalist ... though i dont know if id be brave enough to tackle it i do like what you have done with it so far... will look forward to your continuing vid reports on it... but in the mean time you have given this info junkie something to do today... i think im about to have a read... thanks steve... no mowing the lawn today..lol..cheers
Glad I got you away from the mower, although I have to face that tomorrow 😁 Seriously though, it might blow your mind if you are new to Linux. Arch might be for you if you like a challenge. I have a text file with full instructions for the install on my gitlab page
By the way, you should not resort to the void wiki as it is considered deprecated. All the information that is officially approved is in the documentation section
Void is a great distro but I found it bit buggy and alot of stuff depends on my samba server. Void has an outdated samba packages which got me into a lot of issues. So I had to let it go. Also, it is kind of sad to see that one of the core devs had to leave.
What can pleasant surprise!!! I heard of void but that as about it. Your video was excellent. Love the passion you have for this distro!! How would you install Google chrome? Is it in the repos? The only options I could find are .deb and .rpm for opensuse and Fedora.
I’ve never used the arch octopi as I avoid qt programmes for the most part. Nothing fundamentally against them but the DEs I use are gtk based and qt apps don’t look consistent with the themes I use. If this is basically the same programme as the arch octopi I wasn’t aware of that
I like it that it doesn't use SystemD. I have got nothing against SystemD (though I do think that it is too bloated) but it is good that there are options without SystemD, we need some healthy competition between init-managers. I also prefer a distro not having any customization. But if they do it, do it tastefully and don't make any errors with it, like Manjaro (at least with KDE) in the past having had green highligthing on green font for the ls command (ntfs-partitions).
@Peter There are many distributions without systemd: Slackware and its derivatives (Absolute Linux, Salix, Slackel, Vector Linux, Zenwalk); Gentoo, Calculate Linux and Redcore; Alpine Linux, PCLinux OS and its respins; Artix, Hyperbola, Obarun, Parabola; antiX, Devuan and its derivatives, MX; LFS, NuTyX, Crux Linux, Kwort, Venom just to name a few of them. And don't forget that Crux Linux is the father of Archlinux. All those Arch users who think they are power users because they could install Arch the Arch way should try to do a full install of Crux: server + X + DE/WM + applications!!! Cheers
OldTechBloke Chap, may I introduce you to a wonderful invention called SSD? It is amazing for installing an OS, 3-4 minutes is normal when you use one, not only for Void. :p
@@OldTechBloke You confused me because you said "hard drive". Even with an i5-750 and slow DDR3-ram (1333 MT/s, mediocre timings) Manjaro took 4-5 minutes to install for me on an 850 Evo/MX500 with only a SATA300 connection. Installing a distro goes so fast these days. Gone are the days that we had to be bored for half an hour while Windows was installing from a DVD. I remember how MS at first even actively blocked installing Windows from a thumbdrive. Crazy.
Remember though Peter I’m doing this on a vm and it was at least a couple of minutes faster than the norm. And if you compare it to a Slackware install it was lightning fast.
It worked really well and very fast, however I've had some problems getting newly install packages to appear in the menu. I'm going to keep tinkering with it and see what else I can get running on it.
I'm always sceptical about independent small distros. They always lack packages. I like Manjaro and OpenSuse, rest not so much. Ubuntu and Fedora are usable desktop distros, but I think KDE is not their primary focus.
Stay away from this distro. Too much drama in the community. The main dev just recently departed (again) and there is lack of leadership. It's been like this for years.
I love any and all minimal distros. This looks like the next step once i get tired of my arch install lol
Lol gentoo!
I installed void after watching your video and have been running it as my daily driver for a few days now. I'm so glad that I did. Void is awesome! I had a few hiccups but I was easily able to find out how to fix them.
Void reminds me of the old days of arch Linux, and I missed those days. Back when arch had a ncurses installer and wasn't hell bent on making their distro so complex via removing great things like the beginners guide. Void feels nice and simple, faster and lighter than my arch install. I think I might stick with it for a while.
I've been using it all week and I love it
I seriously enjoy your videos, thanks for making them!
You’re welcome
"and me and the distro clicked and I don't know why" I know that feeling , running Mabox linux for year from the first time ,o yeah this is what would I made kind of vibe :D thanks for showing us the Void :)
Really happy than you decided to look at void and even keep it at your machine I wanna give a heads up about what to expect because void is actually quite different than arch.
people describe arch as minimal but the only thing minimal about arch is the installer really arch bundle dev files and binaries together (something I've yet to see another distro doing) it also pulls quite a bit of optional dependencies by default that's why a server fedora or debian install will always be lighter than arch.
void however is even more minimal than debian or fedora it only pulls EXACTLY what you want it to and unlike arch it doesn't list optional packages for you so you know what to install so yeah I think it's safe to say it's geared toward advanced users.
If you install the lxterminal for example on a window manager on a base install and try to click on the preferences nothing will pop up that's because you are missing an icon package but it won't even tell you what's wrong it just won't work so be prepared for a challenge otb :)
Thanks for the heads up. I’m really enjoying it so far but I need to spend the time getting to know it properly over the next few weeks
@@OldTechBloke what @'Programming xhero' says is true even for a hotspot wifi connection that is set up correctly but it does not work, even when the ufw is also set correctly and just because a needed package is not installed. Void won't tell what you have to install. I think that is a serious bad thing that should be addressed in some way. Otherwise, Void is a nice place to escape to. I use it with Cinnamon tuned with themes and icons stolen form LMDE 4 so my Void is now dark and elegant.
I like the way you explain the installation. Very easy to follow.
I appreciate that!
I've been playing with it in a VM for a couple of weeks, It's been really good so far. I am using the enlightenment version of Void and all I can say is... it is an interesting DE.
I'm using it with dwm, just loving it. no need to worry about a lots of time that arch consume to get it install and gentoo also.
debian is awesome, void is the best ❤️
Thanks for trying out VOID, I have been wanting to. Great information and overview. The musl libc is I think geared for router type activities(IDS, Router, Firewall etc..) this is where its sleek speed and lightweight comes in. It removes the backward compatibility with older stuff and cuts out less used stuff from glibc, Alpine also uses it. But being MIPS(not ARM, would be nice to have this arch-type. ) you can install it on a lot of small home routers, so for GUI is a nice to have for this type of system, but not it primary scope, but covers it rather well.
Another great video review. I put Void on my old Toshiba to play around with over the weekend as a result. So far i totally agree that it feels like a middle ground between Linux and BSD.
Enjoy!
Thanks for reviewing this, for system-d free, you just can't beat Antix in my opinion, it's the distro I keep on the netbook.
I can see myself use that with the sid-repositories. (gaming)
Im currently playing with Mint through Virtual Box about to make my first plunge to a Linux only system. I have a Windows laptop for work, so I am curious about setting up "my own" system.
Best of luck Sean. Void may be a bit of a challenge if you’re relatively new to Linux, but just be prepared to do the leg work in terms of research and you’ll get there
You can't go wrong with Mint as a first distro choice. It even becomes hard to use anything else once you get used to Mint. It's so comfy.
I am glad to see there is a video about void in these days. I switched to void because i was looking for arch like os without system d. I having good time with it. There are some stuff i struggling to get right for me. Like emoji support in dwmblocks as libxft-bgra not available in repositories.
I am also trying xmonad on it but for some reason it wont understanding keybinds for restarting it config. I dont know what i do whether to leave it and go on to artix for full time. But for reason i really like the feel of it and cant put it out into words. Just like you.
Actually I’m having the same problem with restarts in xmonad on void
@TDL What you could try is creating a VM with Archlinux or an Arch based distro. Build the package from the AUR either manually or through a wrapper like yay or trizen.
Then move the file between the guest and the host either by guest additions, or by scp or send it by email to yourself as an attachment. When in Void untar it and move the folders and files with the right permissions and ownership to the right location for Void.
Another method would be to use the famous trilogy: ./configure, make and as root make install. For this you need the source tarball of the package you want to create and all the development tools for creating it.
Cheers
@@serge5046 Thanks, there are tons of aur packages which arent available in void linux repositories.
I can make them available with this method via xbps-src in repo.
Just need to do little bit more research for this to work.
Can you make us a episode on your current desktop setup....looks awesome...the most compact all text desktop ever. love the topbar...show us this too!!
I will, just let me get used to void first 😁
i like to have void as a vm to play arround with, i'm not entirely sure about but i think the reason why i like it it's very straight forward and it's lightning fast and snappy and ressource saving, it reminds me a bit to arch and although it's not even that convenient it feels easier to use for me and also more stable, i tend to break it from time to time but i'm pretty sure usually it was not voids fault but some weird vbox stuff, and yea, a new install is 3 minutes and with ready to use configs you have a complete system running to your likings in less than 30 mins, that's just awesome
Switched to this distro from gentoo when I got an ssd, have been using it as a daily driver for two years now. Very simple, easy, minimalist.
OTB I'm enjoying your videos more and more. Really, I DON'T understand some people's continual "issues" with SystemD.
Me neither mate. As long as the init system boots the PC I’m generally happy 😁
Here are some reasons explained: ruclips.net/video/xYpnbbONrKw/видео.html
Cheers
I was born in Galicia (Spain) and I speak Galician, Portuguese and Spanish; but I don't speak English... so I write the commentary in Spanish and this is a translation made with Deepl.
I hope it is understood in general terms.
I don't have big problems with systemd... but I'm on UNIX OS and UNIX-Like since 1985 I started on Linux* with Slackware in 1994 and I still have a SalixOS on one of my laptops. Maybe that's why, what I do have is a prejudice!! I don't like unnecessary software and much less being imposed!
Now I'm retired... and as a "home" user I don't need an init that launches 10, 20, 30 more processes!! that "supervises" other processes and demons!! systemd does that!! it loads my CPU with unnecessary work.
I need an init to boot my computer and start some daemons. I'm already there to supervise!!
And... although I understand that companies like Red Hat and Canonical agree to "impose" systemd as a standard; it may be convenient for them to deploy other standards that are on their way to impose such as Flatpak and Snap... but I as an end user am not interested!
And as an end user I didn't understand why (non-business) development groups; like Debian or Arch, also went through the hoop!! and accepted the imposition of systemd; when they could have left versions for home users without systemd!
Anyway, as the author of the video says (very honestly); Void Linux is much more than a distribution without systemd. Although I can't express with two words why I feel comfortable with Void Linux. I guess it is mostly because of my experience with UNIX and Slackware; although in the last 25 years I have tried many GNU/Linux-like OSes.
Cheers!!
Comentario original:
Nací en Galicia (España) hablo gallego, portugués y español; pero no domino el inglés... así que escribo el comentario en español y esto que sigue es una traducción hecha con Deepl.
Espero que se entienda en líneas generales.
Yo no tengo grandes problemas con systemd... pero estoy en OS UNIX y UNIX-Like desde 1985 comencé en los Linux* con Slackware en 1994 y aún sigo con una SalixOS en uno de mis portátiles. Quizá por eso, lo que si tengo es un prejuicio!! no me gusta el software innecesario y mucho menos que me lo impongan!!
Ahora estoy jubilado... y como usuario "home" no necesito un init que lance 10, 20, 30 procesos más!! que "supervise" a otros procesos y demonios!! systemd hace eso!! carga mi CPU de trabajo innecesario.
Necesito un init que arranque mi computadora e inicie algunos demonios. Para supervisar ya estoy yo!!
Y... aunque entiendo que empresas como Red Hat y Canonical se pongan de acuerdo para "imponer" systemd como un estándar; es posible que les convenga para desplegar otros estándares que van camino de imponer como Flatpak y Snap... pero a mi como usuario final no me interesa!!
Y como usuario final no entendí por qué grupos de desarrollo (no empresariales); como Debian o Arch, también pasaron por el aro!! y aceptaron la imposición de systemd; cuando podrían haber dejado versiones para usuarios caseros sin systemd!!
De todas formas, como dice el autor del video (muy honesto); Void Linux es bastante más que una distribución sin systemd. Aunque yo tampoco pueda expresar con dos palabras porqué me siento a gusto con Void Linux. Imagino que en buena parte es por mi experiencia con UNIX y Slackware; aunque en los últimos 25 años he probado muchos OS del tipo GNU/Linux.
Salutem!!
I’ve never thought of this before but you sound like one of the guys from top gear!
Void Linux is rock solid, superior to arch in many ways. XBPS is amazing and runit is lightning fast. I always prefer installing the base iso and building it up from there. I’ve done different builds with void - xfce, cinnamon, KDE - all with no issues. Hell! Even gnome without systemd runs on it! Although the latest package is not available so readily as gnome is a difficult little monster.
Top Gear. Don't tell me. Gezza?
OldTechBloke Jeremy Clarkson (I think) from top gear. Or maybe I’ve just not heard his voice in long
Could this OS be a good choice for a old laptop that has Windows XP OS? I want to use this laptop as a daily driver because is still a very nice laptop. But I want to install another OS because I heard that XP is not safe to be used for internet use.
Try BodhiOS if you want something easy to use and have a really old laptop. If it's not that old, Lubuntu you should be fine.
But if you want something to work on, try Void.
Great video Steve. I had a similar experience last year. I installed void in a VM just to play and loved it. However I never installed it on a real machine (yet)
Lol now could be the time
I too am a fan of independent distributions. Void is good stuff.
I'm not but I'll tell you why. These one man distros lack not only support but lack independent review on a large scale. You don't really know what's in them while distros like Ubuntu, Mint, MX Linux etc get examined with a fine tooth comb and instantly the community finds something wrong, it's outed, and quickly fixed. Support for these small distros is shaky at best. With distros like Void this, you really don't know, if something breaks, it's really up to one person to fix. I doubt if anyone actually goes through the code on this distro and others like it.
@@tenfourproductionsllc Its not maintained by one person. It has a huge community behind it which maintain it keeps it updated. And the main developer actually left the project for some reason and now it is maintain by community independantly.
@@soulofhogwarts there are couple of core developers. The developer behind xbps went missing for quite some time without any contact with others and when he returned they had arguements and he/she decided to maintain xbps separately
@@tenfourproductionsllc Its community maintained
Hello. Tks for this good review. Void is a good distro. Tried it a few months ago on vm. Unfortunately it suffers from many bugs sometimes hard to solve.
Anyway worth a try without a doubt.
i tried an arch distro for 4 months I couldn't come to doing anything productive because i had no prior linux experience. 2 months later and now I am playing with void mostly for learning sake.
I use Arco Linux, but I'm testing Void Budgie with gnome Boxes. It's very fast with only 2 gb ram.
The whole thing reminds me of Arch as in the terminal commands and octopi the graphical front end to pacman for QT based systems. I use a Arch system that is also sysd free and I use runit as well. I've stuck this on gnome boxes and will play around with it when I get more time. I'm hoping gnome boxes plays a little better than virtual box which is often the case.
@Garth It would be better to install qemu + kvm + virt-manager. You will need to install dnsmasq and ebtables and bridge-utils as well.
To get a bridge access read this article: computingforgeeks.com/how-to-create-and-configure-bridge-networking-for-kvm-in-linux/
Method 1 works quite well!
Here is how to use virt-manager: www.maketecheasier.com/how-to-use-virtual-machine-manager-linux/
Cheers
Pay attention devs: documentation matters!
21:08 that is lxdm not lightdm
It's lightdm now :-)
Been running Void for about a year and half, first on the laptop but nowadays on my homelab-server. Simplicity at it's best! I am loving it, I find that it's relatively easy to find information elsewhere (for example Arch wiki) and apply it to Void. Systemd-free is definitely a win in my opinion, but I don't really want to get into that in this comment. Additionally, I would like to add, that I found the IRC chat to be a valuable resource as well! (freenode #voidlinux)
I'm still using void on my workstation and really enjoying it
What do you have to set Locale for? Is it for language, for timezone, for updates?
Yes, language, keyboard and time zones. Not updates though
@@OldTechBloke Thank you kindly. Wish i had English keyboard in Jerusalem timezone.
I think it could become a bigger distro. But as it is right now there are too many paper cuts when opening the box. Once its setup its great. But the installation + the error you faced and the docs being a bit behind makes it harder to get setup.
Agreed. It’s a real shame because it’s a great distro - potentially
Yeah, the policykit error greeting you on a fresh install is ugly as hell. They should probably update the ISOs with elogind installed by default or something.
I pretty much think that Void Linux is where UNIX should have been today! But with an UNIX kernel and root partition settable as read-only partition. Void now keeps me away from NetBSD and DragonFlyBSD. For how much long? Don't know yet but hopefully, for as much as possible.
I only recognize two Linux distros: Slackware and Void
I haven't tried it yet but now I'm itching to. It's on the list for the next time I distrohop. Which probably won't be long :-)
It's worth it Jeff
I saw ur post on the subreddit
hmmm.. though im still very much a noob..this seems to be interesting and sorta fits with my love of all things miminalist ... though i dont know if id be brave enough to tackle it i do like what you have done with it so far... will look forward to your continuing vid reports on it... but in the mean time you have given this info junkie something to do today... i think im about to have a read... thanks steve... no mowing the lawn today..lol..cheers
Glad I got you away from the mower, although I have to face that tomorrow 😁 Seriously though, it might blow your mind if you are new to Linux. Arch might be for you if you like a challenge. I have a text file with full instructions for the install on my gitlab page
If you're willing to put a bit of research you might like it, it's not perfect but honestly I'm a Linux noob and even I love it
By the way, you should not resort to the void wiki as it is considered deprecated. All the information that is officially approved is in the documentation section
I want the stabilty of an LTS. I don't want to search and solve problems if they should appear. And systemd I don't care about at all.
Yes this won’t suit everyone
Void is a great distro but I found it bit buggy and alot of stuff depends on my samba server. Void has an outdated samba packages which got me into a lot of issues. So I had to let it go.
Also, it is kind of sad to see that one of the core devs had to leave.
Not even Wensleydale?
it looks pretty fast as well. Is it likely to replace Arch for you?
Lol not yet but we will see
What can pleasant surprise!!! I heard of void but that as about it. Your video was excellent. Love the passion you have for this distro!! How would you install Google chrome? Is it in the repos? The only options I could find are .deb and .rpm for opensuse and Fedora.
To be honest I didn't look for chrome but I've installed chromium from the repos
I'm considering just putting it on my laptop even though I'm relatively inexperienced with linux because why not lol
@MatZ I have but I just decided to go with arch instead because of the amount of packages with the aur
OTB: It's a little bit like Pamac.
Octopi symbol top left corner: Am I a joke to you?
I’ve never used the arch octopi as I avoid qt programmes for the most part. Nothing fundamentally against them but the DEs I use are gtk based and qt apps don’t look consistent with the themes I use. If this is basically the same programme as the arch octopi I wasn’t aware of that
Xfce is my fav looks like mac which I am used to
I love XFCE as well. It's fast, stable and lightweight and at the same time flexible enough to look and behave exactly as you want.
I like it that it doesn't use SystemD. I have got nothing against SystemD (though I do think that it is too bloated) but it is good that there are options without SystemD, we need some healthy competition between init-managers. I also prefer a distro not having any customization. But if they do it, do it tastefully and don't make any errors with it, like Manjaro (at least with KDE) in the past having had green highligthing on green font for the ls command (ntfs-partitions).
I wouldn’t disagree with that Peter
@Peter There are many distributions without systemd: Slackware and its derivatives (Absolute Linux, Salix, Slackel, Vector Linux, Zenwalk); Gentoo, Calculate Linux and Redcore; Alpine Linux, PCLinux OS and its respins; Artix, Hyperbola, Obarun, Parabola; antiX, Devuan and its derivatives, MX; LFS, NuTyX, Crux Linux, Kwort, Venom just to name a few of them. And don't forget that Crux Linux is the father of Archlinux.
All those Arch users who think they are power users because they could install Arch the Arch way should try to do a full install of Crux: server + X + DE/WM + applications!!!
Cheers
@@serge5046 Ohh Serge, yes it is.
i like this o.s but ive never try this yet i will try this soon
OldTechBloke
Chap, may I introduce you to a wonderful invention called SSD? It is amazing for installing an OS, 3-4 minutes is normal when you use one, not only for Void. :p
All I use mate :-)
@@OldTechBloke
You confused me because you said "hard drive".
Even with an i5-750 and slow DDR3-ram (1333 MT/s, mediocre timings) Manjaro took 4-5 minutes to install for me on an 850 Evo/MX500 with only a SATA300 connection. Installing a distro goes so fast these days. Gone are the days that we had to be bored for half an hour while Windows was installing from a DVD. I remember how MS at first even actively blocked installing Windows from a thumbdrive. Crazy.
Remember the win3.1 and 98 installs? Messing about with floppy disks 😁
Remember though Peter I’m doing this on a vm and it was at least a couple of minutes faster than the norm. And if you compare it to a Slackware install it was lightning fast.
@@OldTechBloke I remember loading one floppy at a time in the RAM to play Prince of Persia back in the days. 😁
I'm trying it now. Old Pentium 4 Sony Vaio tower, 2.66GHz, Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 64MB VRAM, 768MB system RAM, 120GB HDD. I'm going LXQt desktop.
Hopefully it worked :-)
It worked really well and very fast, however I've had some problems getting newly install packages to appear in the menu. I'm going to keep tinkering with it and see what else I can get running on it.
Sorry forget to tell you to install void along with windows in dual boot environment
Not exactly true there. Void was one of the first distros to actually incorporate systemD. However they are also one of the first to dispute it.
Interesting. Thanks for the info
I'm always sceptical about independent small distros. They always lack packages. I like Manjaro and OpenSuse, rest not so much. Ubuntu and Fedora are usable desktop distros, but I think KDE is not their primary focus.
It's not like pamak, it's like Octopy!!
Yes indeed.
no systemd. Systemd can suck it. Thinking about switching from arch.
Use Artix
Actually Sir I would like to inform You that it is on DistroWatch at 40, 41, 44 ranks :)
Ok cheers
Not minimal enough. Do a video on Crux Linux.
enter the void
& Irreversible & Climax
If you mean movies by Noé.
There is a guy who creates iso's daily. His website is called voidbuilds.xyz
I took a look, very interesting
L.H.M.!
Stay away from this distro. Too much drama in the community. The main dev just recently departed (again) and there is lack of leadership. It's been like this for years.
I have heard that but the distro itself seems great
Void Linux sucks very hard to install, please don't lie.