I am thinking of getting miter saw for work around house and stuff....(NOT PROFESSIONAL)....I need saw that can cut at angles both wood AND steel....but people say miter saw will break if I use it to cut steel with it even with steel cutting blade...and I was also told miter saw spins too fast for steel...5000 rpm per minute or something...so im confused
Thanks for the vid! I have what I believe is the same blade. Max rpm states 5200. I use it on my miter which isn’t metal specific. It is a 5000 rpm miter yet it seems the cut speed is similar. Am I overworking the blade for no reason? I wanted to save $ by not having to purchase another saw but is it beneficial to get a metal specific saw for a weekend hobbiest like myself? This blade ain’t cheap lol. I went through a couple of Diablo’s which were nice but didn’t last , before I got this Evolution blade.
That's very hard for me to say. I would guess that if your saw is spinning at 5000rpm and your blade is rated for about that then it seems like a good match. I don't know if Evolution designs the motor with any sort of clutch system or anything special for cutting steel so I can't really give you a great answer to your question. Thanks for watching.
Cool, thanks for reply. I ended up just ordered one! haha. figure I went through 3. $50+ blades prematurely the Evo is dual purpose and the sliding feature is nice , it may save me $ in long run 🤷🏽♂️
Why not a chop saw for metal and my miter saw is 4000 no load rpm to high for 10 inch Diablo steel diamond because they are rated around 1800 or 2500 I did cut aluminum closet track like butter with the stock blade
Great vid. I have been looking at getting an evolution saw and believe after watching your review as well as others, this seems to be the best. Where do you get your steel? Looks like in your vid you were able to get some nice pieces. Thanks for your help.
This saw is specifically designed to run at a slower RPM to cut steel. While you might be able to cut steel on a saw designed for wood cutting, you might develop problems with it prematurely. Aluminum, in my experience, can be cut on a standard miter saw with a non-ferrous blade. Thanks for watching.
A drawback to this type of saw is that you can't easily secure flat stock standing vertically against the back fence. It is a lot harder on the saw and blade to try to cut steel flats laying horizontally. If you position them vertically on edge, the blade merely needs to cut through the thickness of the piece, not the width. This saw is not equipped to vice clamp the stock vertically against the fence. Just saying from my years of metal fab. You did a good video. Thanks for sharing.
tigerseye thanks for the advice and watching. The saw did come with a separate clamp however to clamp to the fence. I just don’t use it this way. Cheers.
I think the slide forward and back feature nearly solves this problem doesn’t it. Even when the flat bar is cramped face down the blade cuts front to back.
If this wasn’t a sliding miter saw then I would agree. But, since the saw travels along the base towards the fence it accomplishes the same cut as chopping down with the work vertical.
@@MySickstring Sliding horizontally, it still has to cut much more steel than if the work piece were clamped vertically. The blade is circular after all. The teeth would have to cut the arc radian segment of its diameter.
Thickest I have personally cut would be 1/4" flat bar. It cut it but I wouldn't make a habit of that thick because it'll wear out the blades faster, at least the blades I use.
I have not tried to sharpen these blades after they become worn. In my experience once you get down to the last life of it, there's usually a few chipped teeth or even missing teeth so sharpening wouldn't do much. Thanks for watching!
@@Guddeco i think you would be surprised how little it costs to solder a few carbide teeth and sharpen but a 100 cuts is not very good my 12 inch makita gets 500 plus, also not fond of clamping system. When cutting 45 degree part likes to climb and screw up blade
@@GuddecoI work in a blade sharpening shop. We sharpen any blade but my rule is anything more than 6 broken or chipped teeth I no service them..anything under we replace them and sharpen them
Thanks for watching! I haven’t cut much if any galvanized but my guess is it would be fine. I’m not sure the galvanizing process adds hardness to steel but I’ve also never looked into it.
Hey bro, have you adjust the saw speed? It seems to run quite slow. From what I read you can't really adjusting the speed on these saws without compromising torque..
Thanks for watching. I haven't made any adjustments to the speed on this saw. It is designed to run at 3500RPM to cut steel so that's how I've left it. I am not aware of a speed adjustment setting on it, but then again I've never really looked all that hard for one.
@@Guddeco I see. People said that miter saws run too fast for steel cutting and they destroy the blade eventually. What about an abrasive blade could that be used I wonder?
@@codemasterz6074 This saw is specifically designed to cut steel. That's why it runs at 3500RPM. Tried an abrasive when I was really in a pinch and it worked but it's not designed to run those blades constantly. Thanks!
Don't swap that saw for a band saw. Band saws are great (have 2) but slower than this saw. Yes they can be sharpened. A band saw blade can brake and bend.
@@Guddeco if and when you buy a metal cutting band saw you should look at a "roll in" vertical bandsaw. That set up looks kinda dangerous to me! The clamping system would make me nervous on miter cuts
Thanks for the tip! I am using the recommended blades from the saw manufacturer for steel cutting. If you have any other 10" blade recommendations I should know about I would love to check them out. Cheers.
I am so disappointed. I know that you can't cut steel with a regular miter saw because the blade spins too fast, so you need to go out and buy a specialized expensive steel cutting miter saw. I was hoping you had some trick to cutting steel with a regular miter saw, only to discover that your trick was to go out and buy a special steel cutting miter saw.
This video is pretty much useless for people that are searching how to cut steel with a miter saw because you have a special miter saw to cut steel lol
This is fantastic content, you're a good American.
I am thinking of getting miter saw for work around house and stuff....(NOT PROFESSIONAL)....I need saw that can cut at angles both wood AND steel....but people say miter saw will break if I use it to cut steel with it even with steel cutting blade...and I was also told miter saw spins too fast for steel...5000 rpm per minute or something...so im confused
How do you manage the cuttings?
Well that’s what I call a very informative video great job👏🏻👍🏻
Thank you for checking it out.
Thanks a lot for sharing it helped, never going to use a reciprocating saw again to cut big profiles. ps: Cutting oil should help with blade wear.
Thanks for the vid!
I have what I believe is the same blade. Max rpm states 5200. I use it on my miter which isn’t metal specific. It is a 5000 rpm miter yet it seems the cut speed is similar. Am I overworking the blade for no reason? I wanted to save $ by not having to purchase another saw but is it beneficial to get a metal specific saw for a weekend hobbiest like myself? This blade ain’t cheap lol. I went through a couple of Diablo’s which were nice but didn’t last , before I got this Evolution blade.
That's very hard for me to say. I would guess that if your saw is spinning at 5000rpm and your blade is rated for about that then it seems like a good match. I don't know if Evolution designs the motor with any sort of clutch system or anything special for cutting steel so I can't really give you a great answer to your question. Thanks for watching.
Cool, thanks for reply. I ended up just ordered one! haha. figure I went through 3. $50+ blades prematurely the Evo is dual purpose and the sliding feature is nice , it may save me $ in long run 🤷🏽♂️
Why not a chop saw for metal and my miter saw is 4000 no load rpm to high for 10 inch Diablo steel diamond because they are rated around 1800 or 2500 I did cut aluminum closet track like butter with the stock blade
What type of blade are you using with the mitre saw?
Great vid. I have been looking at getting an evolution saw and believe after watching your review as well as others, this seems to be the best. Where do you get your steel? Looks like in your vid you were able to get some nice pieces. Thanks for your help.
In general, miter saws can cut metal if you're using the right blade? I thought most can't. Is this a unique feature of this saw?
This saw is specifically designed to run at a slower RPM to cut steel. While you might be able to cut steel on a saw designed for wood cutting, you might develop problems with it prematurely. Aluminum, in my experience, can be cut on a standard miter saw with a non-ferrous blade. Thanks for watching.
@@Guddeco Thanks for the reply. This kinda product seems pretty unique in the segment. Are there any other competing products like it?
A drawback to this type of saw is that you can't easily secure flat stock standing vertically against the back fence. It is a lot harder on the saw and blade to try to cut steel flats laying horizontally. If you position them vertically on edge, the blade merely needs to cut through the thickness of the piece, not the width. This saw is not equipped to vice clamp the stock vertically against the fence. Just saying from my years of metal fab. You did a good video. Thanks for sharing.
tigerseye thanks for the advice and watching. The saw did come with a separate clamp however to clamp to the fence. I just don’t use it this way. Cheers.
I think the slide forward and back feature nearly solves this problem doesn’t it. Even when the flat bar is cramped face down the blade cuts front to back.
If this wasn’t a sliding miter saw then I would agree. But, since the saw travels along the base towards the fence it accomplishes the same cut as chopping down with the work vertical.
@@MySickstring Sliding horizontally, it still has to cut much more steel than if the work piece were clamped vertically. The blade is circular after all. The teeth would have to cut the arc radian segment of its diameter.
What's the thickest that you can cut with that saw? I need to cut 6mm thick steel
Thickest I have personally cut would be 1/4" flat bar. It cut it but I wouldn't make a habit of that thick because it'll wear out the blades faster, at least the blades I use.
Great video brother!Thank you!
Have you tried sharpening the blade with a diamond wheel, or can it be professionally resharpened?
I have not tried to sharpen these blades after they become worn. In my experience once you get down to the last life of it, there's usually a few chipped teeth or even missing teeth so sharpening wouldn't do much. Thanks for watching!
@@Guddeco i think you would be surprised how little it costs to solder a few carbide teeth and sharpen but a 100 cuts is not very good my 12 inch makita gets 500 plus, also not fond of clamping system. When cutting 45 degree part likes to climb and screw up blade
Definitely cheaper to buy a top quality blade and then take it to be repaired and sharpened when necessary.
@@GuddecoI work in a blade sharpening shop. We sharpen any blade but my rule is anything more than 6 broken or chipped teeth I no service them..anything under we replace them and sharpen them
First of all, nice content with relevant info. Btw, does the blade cuts well through galvanized steel?
Thanks for watching! I haven’t cut much if any galvanized but my guess is it would be fine. I’m not sure the galvanizing process adds hardness to steel but I’ve also never looked into it.
your link for miter saw is wrong.
Great saw I do thanks for the help
Thanks for checking it out!
Thank you for sharing your experience.
Thanks for watching!
Another RUclipsr mentioned, that flat material is better to cut vertically, not flat.
Thanks for watching. I remember that suggestion and will try it on my next project.
What will happen if I use this blade on a regular, high rpm saw in an attempt to cut steel? That's my plan.
Thank you for this demo.
Your guess is as good as mine. Blade is recommended to run at 5200RPM I believe. So user beware.
...but how did controlled the speed of the miter saw. as you know in cutting iron steel it needs lower speed. thinx
He said that’s why he bought the evolution miter saw because it turned a lot slower than a regular miter saw.
Better to buy diablo saw Freud-Diablo 10 X 50 X 1 Ferrous CERMET CSB, Multi, Talla única (D1050CF
I feel very disappointed of evolution blades :(.
Hey bro, have you adjust the saw speed? It seems to run quite slow. From what I read you can't really adjusting the speed on these saws without compromising torque..
Thanks for watching. I haven't made any adjustments to the speed on this saw. It is designed to run at 3500RPM to cut steel so that's how I've left it. I am not aware of a speed adjustment setting on it, but then again I've never really looked all that hard for one.
@@Guddeco I see. People said that miter saws run too fast for steel cutting and they destroy the blade eventually. What about an abrasive blade could that be used I wonder?
@@codemasterz6074 This saw is specifically designed to cut steel. That's why it runs at 3500RPM. Tried an abrasive when I was really in a pinch and it worked but it's not designed to run those blades constantly. Thanks!
Don't swap that saw for a band saw. Band saws are great (have 2) but slower than this saw. Yes they can be sharpened. A band saw blade can brake and bend.
Thanks for the advice. I'm not in any rush to get a bandsaw but I appreciate it.
@@Guddeco if and when you buy a metal cutting band saw you should look at a "roll in" vertical bandsaw.
That set up looks kinda dangerous to me! The clamping system would make me nervous on miter cuts
@@brianpatrick8441 Thanks for the advice. I'll check it out.
you have to match the speed of the saw and the blade speed and your blade will last you for years not only 100 cuts , you just burning the blades
Thanks for the tip! I am using the recommended blades from the saw manufacturer for steel cutting. If you have any other 10" blade recommendations I should know about I would love to check them out. Cheers.
@@Guddeco my recommendation is to buy the evolution 14 inch dry cut saw there only like 325.00 but it last for 20years
How to cut steel with a miter saw you definitely don't have.
I am a small men one shop
I am so disappointed. I know that you can't cut steel with a regular miter saw because the blade spins too fast, so you need to go out and buy a specialized expensive steel cutting miter saw. I was hoping you had some trick to cutting steel with a regular miter saw, only to discover that your trick was to go out and buy a special steel cutting miter saw.
This video is pretty much useless for people that are searching how to cut steel with a miter saw because you have a special miter saw to cut steel lol
I know but I cut steel with a miter saw as promised. Thanks for watching!