Tapered Tenon Cutters
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In my last video I made a tapered mortise reamer, for this video I made a couple of tenon cutters to match it. I made two different styles, one easier to make than the other.
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Dear Neil, thanks for showing me how to make and use the cutters. As it turned out, I did have a real need for something like this but didn’t have a clear idea how to go about it. Now I do thanks to you. All the best.
Thank you for this! I just made myself a tapered tenon cutter with your instructions - definitely needs some work, but I'm pleased. You made a difference - thanks again!
I've had the Lee Valley tapered reamer and tenon cutters on order since early July this year, and they're now backordered into late November and December (after getting bumped out a month at a time until now, so no confidence they'll be shipped then either). I've got your two videos bookmarked and am thinking I need to find some metal to use for the reamer blade next. Trying to make some staked furniture a la The Anarchist's Design Book, and these two tools are critical to getting started. Thanks so much for putting these videos together!
So as a set it's kinda like a tap and dye set for steel! Super cool!
Port Orford cedar is the nicest wood I have ever worked with it doesn’t split, easy to cut and shape and weathers really well. The only drawback is the only place I know it grows is in Oregon.
Awesome job Pask! It was a lot of work and even got yourself a bit of a bo bo on your hand. I hope your hand is better now. I appreciate all the work you do to put these videos out. They are a lot of help and I enjoy all of them. Take care and be safe!
Thanks Becky and thanks for the stickers! :)
Great demonstration of woodworking basics Neil, thanks for sharing. Hope your hand recovered well. Have a good weekend.
Thanks Robert! :)
That worked incredibly well. The final assembled joint was near perfect. 👍
Thanks mate! It wasn't bad but not sure about perfect, wet glue, sanded to 120 and a quick cart of wax. ;)
next time you start an angled cut in the middle of a piece of wood try starting with a knife wall. strike a line with a marking knife on the waste side of the line about 1-2 mm (~1/16"). then start the angle with a chisel to remove a slice of wood. then you can start your saw will have a ledge to work against.
Yes you're absolutely correct Mark, I should've known better. :)
Hey I know this video is old but I had an idea for your tear out problem on the larger tenons.
You know how a fillister shoulder plane has a spur to slice the grain just slightly before the blade comes through and pares it so it won’t chip out or lift? You could take a spur from a fillister and mount it on the tenon cutter for when you are anticipating tear out
Just what I was looking for. Unpretentious and generously informative. I wish you were a spiritual guru as well!
I really enjoy all of your videos. You make it all look so simple which inspires me.
Awesome, probably too much trouble for one off, but there’s got to be a jig made of a couple of wedges to make the cuts on
A power saw.
Great beveled tenon cutters. Surely more accurate, and quicker, than trying to do it all with a knife, draw knife, and spoke shave. Kudos!
Curious could you drill a straight hole and the blade in the tenon cutter please answer thanks in advance??????
the reamer could use a couple of balls added to the tee handle , one to extend it to fit your grip better, and two , so it easier on the balms or webs of your hands when turning it , but great build, like the REuse of the saw blade,
I love old wood crafts. you show us something very exclusive. almost forgotten. Thanks a lot, dear🍀👍
Glad you liked it Lukas! :)
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Great video pal, I'm big fan of your work
Thanks very much Martin! :)
Great video! I would love to see how you made the dowel cutter you showed at the end of the video. Thanks....just subscribed!
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I love your videos, I'm a knifemaker and I find your work amazing, you know how to use your tools and it's very pleasant to watch
By the way, where do you get all these pieces of hardwood ?
What a joy to watch along, Mr. Skilled Toolmaker! :)
this is one gigantic pencil sharpener!
Cool video, even cooler photos,
Many thanks from UK
Awesome! I absolutely love how you had to make a tool to make the tool.
Glad you like it Tom! :)
Nice video, concise descriptions.
It is always fun to make your own tools.
Great set of tools! I'll take that sample joint if you have no use for it ;-)
Your's is one of the best videos on how to make tapering tool. Well done! I will be building one however my diameter needs to be much smaller than yours. It will be roughly 1/4" at small end and 5/8" at the big end. Will be using it to make the taper on a hickory golf shaft to fit in the iron hosel. What would make this a slam dunk is if at my finishing point I would be left with a shoulder. Do you see this as being possible?
If you have a lathe you could turn the tenon slightly oversized creating the shoulder then use the tenon cutter to shave it to finished dimension. You could shape it by hand too, but would be trickier(very possible though). :)
Thank you. I've been using a Veritas dowel tapering tool to start the taper. I then hit it with the belt sander to remove a fair amount of excess. Once that's done it can be another couple hours till I get it to sit tight on the shoulder and this is achieved using a utility knife blade as a scraper, file and 100 grit sandpaper. So anything that can knock down the time would be a bonus. I will pick up a reamer tomorrow and build one like your second one in the video (no handles). I will then try and find the sweet spot with the cutter and through trial and error figure out if it a shoulder can be done. These tools used to exist as most cleek makers would have had one that turned the taper to go into their irons. I don't have a lathe and my shafts are currently in 3/4" diameter dowel form. You've given me a path to start on. Thanks again.
What if you started by making a compound miter cut in the stock for the blade bed and then glued it half back together again, and clamped the unglued half as you drill and ream the hole?
If you have a wood lathe could you use it (unpowered) to guide the reamer!
Great video, my coffee went cold whilst I was watching it as I was so absorbed in the video 😀. I can see how great the tapered tenon is, but where would you actually use it. I am thinking old style chairs where the legs go into the seat could be one use, what do you use it for? Thanks, Bob
Glad you enjoyed it Bob! You're correct, it is used in chair making. I've just built a stool to show them in use - video will be out later today. :)
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whitedoggarage I’m going to make one or two to install walking stick tips.
if get a step metal drill bit you can do it in no time
Hello Neil, again a very good job. Thick thumbs up ❗❗❗ Martin 👍 👍👍👍✋
Thanks Martin - glad you liked it mate! :)
This is fantastic!
Nice tool build. Great video. : )
Great video!! Im making one of these soon. So many possible options when you have one of those or even better a few in a few sizes lol. Hope you hand is doing well man. Thanks for the great content.
How narrow can you make these tapered reamers I need one goes from 1/8to 3/8 or an 1/2 inch can you give me an idea of what I need to do any help would be appreciated 👍👍👍🤙🤙🤙
Screw a razor blade on the inlet side and have it cut the grain so no tear out? Kinda like the spur nickers on some planes?
Thank you
I would like to make a cutter that would cut a 1/2" or .500 diameter but with square shoulder for walking sticks to add a carving with a 1/2" hole in the center of it. How can I do that? I'm starting the tenon cutter for log type furniture with a double blade but it leaves a radius in the corner. Thank you!
The wood you used with the plane iron looks to me like it is wormy chestnut.
This is exactly the video I needed to help me build a sharpener for my huge pencils!
Biggest pencil sharpener I've ever seen, nice one 😂😂😂👍👍👍
It's a really big pencil sharpener!
Super class.
Great video, thank you! what kind of wood would you like? oak? beech ? ash? for example...
Another good video 👍
So it's an upscale pencil sharpener.
good one and love the pig to silk purses with warts on the its nuts. :)
THANKS
What angle is the cutter blade sharpened at? A tenon cutter I made a few hears ago does not cut shavings well at all, and I am wondering if I sharpened the blade at too shallow an angle.
Great video Neil! Thanks for sharing it.😎👍JP
great work. i hope to be able to make and use something like this in the future
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That looks just like a giantic sharpener!
congrats you made a big pencil sharpner
Love your work!
It was helpful to me, thanks! I had an idea how to make it but you saved me some trial and error. I can't wait to make some things with that joint.
Deus te deu muita sabedoria... Parabéns!
Is there a specific reason why woodworkers cut the blade bed at 20º when making these rounder planes/tenon cutters? Most dowel making jigs have 0º blade beds, does it make them harder to use? I figure a blade positioned at 20º+25º should cut better than 0º+25º.
Glad your hand is okay!
The head piece is Sheoak.
Well done my friend, turned out very well....quick recovery can start with a beer, well deserved after that cut 🍻🍺
Thanks Marc! Sounds good to me! :)
New to the craft is it a tenon because it's a tampered dowel ment ro be inserted into a hole or just because it's tappered?
Great video mate, keep up the excellent work. Regards from Gold Coast Jack Marashlian
Amazing. You are very intelligent and capricious.
GREAT JOB!.Thanks a lot.
fantastic!!
Can we have a shop tour
very good
nice job
I like these. I will have to try to make these when I want to build a chair. But at 10:35, did you run into a couple of nails? It looks like you went through them easily enough.
Great video! What are your thoughts on the Irwin pull saw?
Thanks Joe! It's nice enough and a handy saw to have around (there's a few teeth missing now). I probably should invest in something better. :)
Perfecto!
I need one of those to sharpen my giant pencil... :D
muy practico y facil !Te felicito amigo.
Thanks for sharing !
really cool mate, 2 in one sure its the way to go..:)) the info and details are much appreciated.. great project
No worries Shay! :)
Cool project! How's the hand doing?
Thanks Bruce - the hand is almost healed! :)
great way too make mallets,
The best
I failed this method, but succeeded in another way
Bandages getting more minimal..healing well, i trust ! Thanks for another great video : )
It's getting there Jules! Thanks. :)
make a smaller version for actual pencil sharpening for long points on pencils.
I actually tried! I thought I might be able to sell them on my website but it was more difficult than I thought it would be! ;)
@@PaskMakes Even that I've used injector-razor blades successfully... on pencil sharpeners it's a painstaking tedious mess...
{side-note... they're WONDERFUL on leather-lace makers though}
If you'd like another go... maybe try basing the cutter off a cabinet scraper or "card scraper" principle... so the edge drags neatly against the wood...rather than trying to carve directly in. Those damn little blades are near impossible to bed perfectly and prevent chatter and tear-out.
I'm also wondering if I can figure on those spiral cutter-gears... I took apart a few older versions of "hand-crank" pencil sharpeners (like I used to find at school) and was surprised to find that a lot of the really REALLY old ones didn't have blades at all... but the long spirally gears just sort of "munched along" the taper as they went round... Still looked like something "do-able" in a hand-held variation... if one can still find those cutter-gear deals (not sure what the hell you'd call 'em...lolz). ;o)
Where do you get those tenon cutters and the big pencil sharpener? They look old. Do they still make them? Thanks
What North American wood might be good for this build?
Fantastic work Neil!
If work slows down, you can always get a job at Smiggle, sharpening pencils ;)
To erase pencil, what rubber to you use? 160 grit, mate ;)
Where you from/based buddy? You sound like a fellow brummie 😊👍🏼
Close - the gold and black part of the midlands. ;)
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6:57 It's a pencil sharpener!
a giant one, but is very nice
I've tried making a set a few years ago but barely worked. Must've had the angles off.
Now that's a pencil sharpener
It’s a giant pencil sharpener!
I hope your hand feels better. A cut like that hurts.
Interesting...!
Just a big ol' pencil sharpener ;)
Basically two pencil sharpeners for giant pencils.
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How it work ?
Why don't you name the video "Making giant pencil sharpeners?"😜
Because the pencil sharpener design is copying this traditional way of making tenons from logs.