The concept is 100% on point. My 72 C10 has 100K+ miles in north west PA Salt country. I'm still running factory brake lines. You follow this formula once a year and rust will not be a problem. Bonus prize, hardware comes right apart with out much cursing.
Por15 works great on new metal. But it's picky with any other. Best is this, 1 quart of any oil new or used, 1 quart of trans fluid new or used, 1 tube of grease for grease gun, 1 toilet wax gasket. All for less than $6.00 and it will last alot longer than anything u can buy. My pap told me of this in 80s. Thank u for proving me right. Ppl just spend so much money on all these products that do work but cost alot and lots little.
Oh my god this is exactly what had been done on my truck before I bought it! The last 5 years since then I’ve been wondering wtf it is. I mean I knew some guys here in the rust belt mixed up their own concoctions but I had never really knew exactly what any of it was because most people in my area including myself use krown or fluid film. But It makes perfect sense now that this is probably what it is because it looked just like this and it seemed like some kind of waxy oil with a layer of dirt over it. I had to strip some off to weld some brackets on and it was a mess but let me tell you the frame underneath was pristine! Thanks for sharing this!
This works, my dad's been spraying used oil on his vehicles for years. My only suggestion on pickups is to remove the tail lights to allow adequate spray above the rear wheel well.
That is good idea , I saw a channel where a guy poured wax inside of car doors to seal inside where the door seemed together ,after it dried he opened up the drain holes under the door so rain could get out n salt water .thanks for ur time.
This is a brilliant idea. FF is a lanolin product which is sheep's wool wax. Parrafin wax will do the same. You just need a wax that won't absorb water over time. Obviously toilet mount wax is formulated specifically for that purpose but in addition it needs to tolerate exposure to H2S, H2SO4, NaOH, NaOCl, and many more chemicals that you would never willingly expose your undercarriage to.
Also if I want a harder coating I add boiled linseed oil. About a quart along with 1 quart of oil, trans fluid, grease and wax. U can play around with the ratios. As long as you have oils, fluids and grease it's ok. I have access to hydraulic fluid. Alot of it. We drain all logging machinery yearly. Just don't forget the door bottoms, hood, trunk etc. Mist autos have drains in floors, doors. Just pop floor drains and fill or spray. To clean inside frame on box frames some small scrap chain from dog to medium duty on a home made flexible wand and a drill can get up in frame and beat alot of the scale out. Always seal with your liking of paint, or primer. I use Eastwood internal frame, then chassis saver, then farm implement paint with hardener. We've done this 20 yeats ago and when all dirt is gone it still looks new. Try sanding on a john deere yellow dozer from mid 90s. It'll wear out sand paper. It's some tough stuff. I use black paint. It don't have to be pretty. You can paint by hand, spray bottle, gun etc. U can make a fillable spray can and buy some long straws like comes with wd40 etc. I use the nozzle and hose and brass nozzle that sprays 360. Works great. Even if you don't use any paint, this stuff will still save metal from rusting. Spray on some Ospho on bare and then use this.
My father used to tell me that cars never used to rust when he was a kid, because they would spray the used oil on the main roads in town to keep the dust down. This is by far the best way to avoid rust, especially in cavities.
Thanks for a great educational video. WOW! the Michigan and rust belt states get their cars eaten by this corrosive salt and cinder winter environment. Just wondering, in addition to this spray sealing, if anyone is using a "bird bath station" approach to rinse the cinders and salt off when you return home from winter drives? I remember in the Navy the P3 Orion planes went through a bird bath after returning from their sub chasing missions to rinse off the salt water. Would that help on the undercarriage?
Back home in Kentucky we would spray old oil on our frames then dirt road then spray then dirt road 2 or 3 times and the frames and undercarriage will last a life time
Mustie1 on YT uses bar and chain oil because it is gooey and sticky. Sometimes adds the wax rings to the mix. Swears by it. Also counts on the buildup of road grime. And crack kills. ;-)
I'm with you Bro 👊 my Lincoln TWN Car 84 rust free used Rust-oleum primer for my Lincoln TWN Car 36 years no rust, I live in New England Salt Capital. 😂😄😀
I'm going to try this I just used engine oil and a sprayer like your idea wax, grease combo. I spray the inside frame also the only thing is I get some I'm sure on brake pads not on purpose but it's kinda messy.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer exactly. I’ve never seen a truck that’s been coated inside and out with oil rust. Of course it will a little over time, but these poor guys who get a new truck and have it Ziebarted need to know how to really prevent rust.
the msds of Fluid Film says paraffin wax though - so must be some in there. Hydrotreated heavy paraffinic distillate 40.0 - 80.0 percent Mineral oil, petroleum distillates
Was wondering if your truck was a long bed originally? I'm liking the military style bed. Thank you for the information on the rust prevention, I'm assuming it gets all over everything when doing any . maintenance under the truck?
My truck is an 8 foot bed, the box is from a M101A2 trailer. In normal maintenance, like an oil change, it doesn't hurt a thing. Drain plug and filter don't care. If you're changing the shocks or something, the nuts and bolts are coated in it, makes it easier to take them off actually.
🤔 home Cosmoline ish maybe . would be same thing as me keeping my hand files in oil so heck yeah what ever works . Ps im sure someone in the Nevada desert will have something negative to say about it so just tell them to use muriatic acid as substitute 😁
the toilet bowl wax is actually petrolatum wax which is a mixture of mineral oil and paraffin - so softer than just straight paraffin wax. I just bought 9 of those same rings - melted in crock pot - mixed with turpentine. So 3 lbs of it. Then 1 lb of straight paraffin wax (candles) - combined and - too thick for hand pump sprayer. So I had to paint it on - gloppy mess. Should be interesting. Vaseline (petrolatum wax) by far tests the BEST for preventing rust.
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885the thing that we get for the same job is plumbers mate so not wax , shame but I could get some old wax candles and melt them in to the old used car oil, would that work?
@@lookoutleo Good luck spraying whatever you make up - too much wax and you definitely can't use a hand pump sprayer. I know people use mineral oil - a gallon - in a hand pump sprayer but straight oil runs off easily.
Tell’em come on over ! Let them give a heads up ahead of time so he can have lemonade , and cookies ready when they come ! F**k’em soft heart bastards don’t give a hoot when they dump poisonous rock salt on roadways during winter that rust a living hell out of underneath a car
The concept is 100% on point. My 72 C10 has 100K+ miles in north west PA Salt country. I'm still running factory brake lines. You follow this formula once a year and rust will not be a problem. Bonus prize, hardware comes right apart with out much cursing.
Por15 works great on new metal. But it's picky with any other. Best is this, 1 quart of any oil new or used, 1 quart of trans fluid new or used, 1 tube of grease for grease gun, 1 toilet wax gasket. All for less than $6.00 and it will last alot longer than anything u can buy. My pap told me of this in 80s. Thank u for proving me right. Ppl just spend so much money on all these products that do work but cost alot and lots little.
Oh my god this is exactly what had been done on my truck before I bought it! The last 5 years since then I’ve been wondering wtf it is. I mean I knew some guys here in the rust belt mixed up their own concoctions but I had never really knew exactly what any of it was because most people in my area including myself use krown or fluid film. But It makes perfect sense now that this is probably what it is because it looked just like this and it seemed like some kind of waxy oil with a layer of dirt over it. I had to strip some off to weld some brackets on and it was a mess but let me tell you the frame underneath was pristine! Thanks for sharing this!
Yeah, there's variations on the theme, this is mine. But it all really works the same
This works, my dad's been spraying used oil on his vehicles for years. My only suggestion on pickups is to remove the tail lights to allow adequate spray above the rear wheel well.
That is good idea , I saw a channel where a guy poured wax inside of car doors to seal inside where the door seemed together ,after it dried he opened up the drain holes under the door so rain could get out n salt water .thanks for ur time.
Yeah the door seams is a big deal for sure.
I usually use aerosol wool wax for that.
This is a brilliant idea. FF is a lanolin product which is sheep's wool wax. Parrafin wax will do the same. You just need a wax that won't absorb water over time. Obviously toilet mount wax is formulated specifically for that purpose but in addition it needs to tolerate exposure to H2S, H2SO4, NaOH, NaOCl, and many more chemicals that you would never willingly expose your undercarriage to.
Also if I want a harder coating I add boiled linseed oil. About a quart along with 1 quart of oil, trans fluid, grease and wax. U can play around with the ratios. As long as you have oils, fluids and grease it's ok. I have access to hydraulic fluid. Alot of it. We drain all logging machinery yearly. Just don't forget the door bottoms, hood, trunk etc. Mist autos have drains in floors, doors. Just pop floor drains and fill or spray. To clean inside frame on box frames some small scrap chain from dog to medium duty on a home made flexible wand and a drill can get up in frame and beat alot of the scale out. Always seal with your liking of paint, or primer. I use Eastwood internal frame, then chassis saver, then farm implement paint with hardener. We've done this 20 yeats ago and when all dirt is gone it still looks new. Try sanding on a john deere yellow dozer from mid 90s. It'll wear out sand paper. It's some tough stuff. I use black paint. It don't have to be pretty. You can paint by hand, spray bottle, gun etc. U can make a fillable spray can and buy some long straws like comes with wd40 etc. I use the nozzle and hose and brass nozzle that sprays 360. Works great. Even if you don't use any paint, this stuff will still save metal from rusting. Spray on some Ospho on bare and then use this.
My father used to tell me that cars never used to rust when he was a kid, because they would spray the used oil on the main roads in town to keep the dust down. This is by far the best way to avoid rust, especially in cavities.
Yeah I grew up on a dirt road, they sprayed it all summer to keep dust down
They also never used a ton of road salt in yhe winters which is why they didnt rust out
Thanks for a great educational video. WOW! the Michigan and rust belt states get their cars eaten by this corrosive salt and cinder winter environment. Just wondering, in addition to this spray sealing, if anyone is using a "bird bath station" approach to rinse the cinders and salt off when you return home from winter drives? I remember in the Navy the P3 Orion planes went through a bird bath after returning from their sub chasing missions to rinse off the salt water. Would that help on the undercarriage?
A normal car wash helps immensely, most people don't bother with even that enough
Back home in Kentucky we would spray old oil on our frames then dirt road then spray then dirt road 2 or 3 times and the frames and undercarriage will last a life time
Diesel fuel , transmission fluid, and 80w 90 gear oil. Stays sticky and absolutely doesnt wash off with the gear oil component
Mustie1 on YT uses bar and chain oil because it is gooey and sticky. Sometimes adds the wax rings to the mix. Swears by it. Also counts on the buildup of road grime.
And crack kills. ;-)
Hell yeah, this is the kinda stuff I like to see.
I'm with you Bro 👊 my Lincoln TWN Car 84 rust free used Rust-oleum primer for my Lincoln TWN Car 36 years no rust, I live in New England Salt Capital. 😂😄😀
Im gonna give that a try on my 2010 silverado....thanks for the info.
That's a good idea and with something like a Garden Sprayer you should be able to reach into the Water Trap areas of the frame and body panels.
You could probably spray it all with a garden sprayer if you didn't have a conpressor
I'm going to try this I just used engine oil and a sprayer like your idea wax, grease combo. I spray the inside frame also the only thing is I get some I'm sure on brake pads not on purpose but it's kinda messy.
I don’t care about por-15, either. Any paintable type undercoating doesn’t work. Oily waxy ones like you did work all the time. Well done.
That's been my experience for years, they're self healing and foolproof
@@TheDrivewayEngineer exactly. I’ve never seen a truck that’s been coated inside and out with oil rust. Of course it will a little over time, but these poor guys who get a new truck and have it Ziebarted need to know how to really prevent rust.
looking forward to your "i cleaned the crap outta my yard and driveway video"....
Keep looking!
Spraying oil on a windy day. Now there's a extreme focus one track mind. Lol.
That’s pretty clever. If you can’t beat em, just join em....
I used Airport Grade driveway sealed to rust proof a frame on a farm truck, it was all I had and it still holding on 8 yrs later
That would work great lol, idk about the bolts and lines though lol
@ 4:34 I bet your neighbors love you.
Fluid film is not parafin wax. It is wool-wax which comes from wool.
the msds of Fluid Film says paraffin wax though - so must be some in there. Hydrotreated heavy paraffinic distillate 40.0 - 80.0 percent Mineral oil, petroleum distillates
This video feels like it was made in 2007
To the people reading this: have a good day/ night and stay safe during these hard times 😷🙏 🧤
😂
Por15 didn’t work for me either. It was a waste of time that let the rust spread under it.
thanks a lot TDE!!
we actually don’t have dirt roads here. I guess it’s just as well, I don’t have the time or the situation to get this going.
Was wondering if your truck was a long bed originally? I'm liking the military style bed. Thank you for the information on the rust prevention, I'm assuming it gets all over everything when doing any . maintenance under the truck?
My truck is an 8 foot bed, the box is from a M101A2 trailer.
In normal maintenance, like an oil change, it doesn't hurt a thing. Drain plug and filter don't care.
If you're changing the shocks or something, the nuts and bolts are coated in it, makes it easier to take them off actually.
🤔 home Cosmoline ish maybe . would be same thing as me keeping my hand files in oil so heck yeah what ever works . Ps im sure someone in the Nevada desert will have something negative to say about it so just tell them to use muriatic acid as substitute 😁
It's the same idea for sure.
So the wax melts into the oil and turns into liquid?
Turns semi solid again when it dries
Here in the UK we don't get toilet bowl wax gaskets like that. Is it like candle wax or what else is it like?
Interesting, it's a paraffin wax.
the toilet bowl wax is actually petrolatum wax which is a mixture of mineral oil and paraffin - so softer than just straight paraffin wax. I just bought 9 of those same rings - melted in crock pot - mixed with turpentine. So 3 lbs of it. Then 1 lb of straight paraffin wax (candles) - combined and - too thick for hand pump sprayer. So I had to paint it on - gloppy mess. Should be interesting. Vaseline (petrolatum wax) by far tests the BEST for preventing rust.
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885the thing that we get for the same job is plumbers mate so not wax , shame but I could get some old wax candles and melt them in to the old used car oil, would that work?
@@lookoutleo Good luck spraying whatever you make up - too much wax and you definitely can't use a hand pump sprayer. I know people use mineral oil - a gallon - in a hand pump sprayer but straight oil runs off easily.
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 prob heat it and apply with a brush or roller :)
"Troutjunky" gives the reciepe.
can it be use in the crank case ?🙂
No
Right on
Will synthetic oil work as well as conventional. Serious question….
Doesn't matter, as long as air can't get to it, it can't rust
I like using kbs coatings brand or chassis saver brand.
How about painting the whole truck flat blk
Por 15 doesn't work for me either... I'll never waste my money on that again..
Beeswax?
JR the environmental police will be over later....lol
I've no doubt this will upset some sensitive folks, but I learned it from my grandfather lol
You’re doing your part by recycling your used oil
Tell’em come on over ! Let them give a heads up ahead of time so he can have lemonade , and cookies ready when they come ! F**k’em soft heart bastards don’t give a hoot when they dump poisonous rock salt on roadways during winter that rust a living hell out of underneath a car
The dirt road idea is stupid. It soaks up all the undercoating and it will fall off in clumps after so much dust gets on it.
Except it doesn't.. But thanks for watching !