I liked your video a lot. People need to understand just how cool it is, at your age, to even know any of this and stop bagging on your for not crediting EVERYONE. There's even a punk doc about the lost years of the 80's punk, post punk, and goth because of the lack of documentation for any of it. I feel you did a great job. Having been in high school at that time it really brings back memories. I was (specifically) an industrial goth. Still have my hand spiked, studded jacket with my boys don't cry back patch and patches (and paint) for sister's of mercy, bauhaus, Christian death, cocteau twins, dead can dance, the smiths (even thought Morrissey shouldn't be anywhere near Robert Smith, etc... I'm 50 now (with purple hair)and still listen to all of it. I admire that you're keeping it alive. 😊👍❤
I signed Specimen to music publishing and managed them until they were able to manage the whole club and band , we then made the Batcave Album in my studio TRIDENT and we did the deal with SIRE . I was also a DJ playing dark electronica since 1978.
@@antoinebeauman The Blitz was playing not only electronic and by 1982 -4 we had opend The Camden Palace and Tuesdays was called TRASH and we booked bands and I was producing and DJing . I signed bands and produced them and I also made The Senate with Kirk Brandon remixes Spear of Destiny Liberator extended and Burundi Drummers [ Antmusic ] and The Anvil Visage and loads more ....It was a sound we wanted and bands not dance music but dark electro like DAF Sisiters of Mercy The Cult SOD Killing Joke and The Banshees and I played DJ Sets at Trash . Hamsih made Batcave his own and like me when a club changes DJ they often lose the whole heart of the club....rustyeganpresents1.bandcamp.com/track/rusty-egan-presents-back-to-burundi-ft-marco-pirroni
Not only as a member of Sexbeat but also as the Batcave DJ, I have to send a message to you, Rudi.You make no mention at all of the Batcave DJ. One reason it was successful was because of the music that was played in there. I would normally play a 4-5 hour set every Wednesday and would bring to the tables what I was witnessing in concert halls. You have no idea how much this was radical as no one had played this stuff as dance music before (it was always a scrum in the Roxy!) It was the playlist of the Batcave, particularly by 1984, that defined its members. Regarding the bit in your piece about the decline of the Batcave, in 1985 I was a victim of the paranoia of Specimen and was forced out after two and a half years. No one could replicate my setlist - that was one reason the club declined. I knew the crews that went down there; they deserted the club because no one played their music any more. I am surprised you make no reference to the music I played as it was a such time of change going on - with the advent of midi, drum machines and synths. As a maker and vendor of badges for the likes of Bauhaus, the Cure, Banshees, SDC, Killing Joke, New Order, PIL, the Cramps and so many more, I got to meet the crews a lot, and now being of age, the time was ripe to channel these kids into a club where their music was being played. Plus it was the first club to start playing 'alternative' music as club music...as dance music. It wasn't all Specimen you know.The most iconic and danceable plays on my turntables initially were Bowie, Iggy Pop, Generation X, T Rex, Bauhaus, Banshees, the Cure. the Clash, The Sex Pistols, Joy Division, ESG, the Psychedelic Furs, the New York Dolls, the Meteors, the Cramps, the Sweet, The Ramones, Jimi Hendrix... The totemic stuff came after in waves, surfing on the sonic backdrop of this 'non funk' club - UK Decay, ASF, Sexbeat, Sex Gang Children, Southern Death Cult, Christian Death, Sisters of Mercy, March Violets, Dead Kennedys... Any time you or any other researcher wants a more complete version of our history, I am always open to debate and contribution. H
its disgraceful that you invented this thing that everyone loves yet are written out of people's histories of this stuff and are not so well known. something has to be done about this. especially when people say how important the music is to the scene.
It's in the middle of being composed...but, if you want to know the top 10 most influential, most played and most iconic, I would have to submit (in no particular order): Siouxsie and the Banshees: Christine Bauhaus:Bela Lugosi's dead Joy Division: She's lost control The Cramps: Garbageman The Sex Pistols: Submission The Cure: A Forest The Sisters of Mercy: Alice Sexbeat: Sexbeat The Virgin Prunes: Pagan Love Song Generation X: Dancing with myself
I went there in early 1984.. was such a brilliant funny night..as it says in the doc, we weren't there to shock, we went to entertain ourselves...the music was brilliant, esp alien sex fiend live..best times!!
I was there , in nearly all the clubs , batcave, fouberts, heaven, gossips on Mondays , Kitcat club, in carnaby street , westbourne grove, the old church near Holborn tube, the old bank in angel and the last one still existing near angel tube. The tourists didn't go inside clubs but took a lot of pictures when you were outside or in pubs like the dog star .
I wish there was some kind of goth club around where i live but there is pretty much a complete lack of a goth scene in general where i live. Interesting video
I was in a band with Sophie of Sexbeat, I used to work at The Batcave, it WASN'T 'serious', Specimen were funny and had great senses of humour, especially Jon who was a good friend of mine (and married to Sophie by the way), we'd go down there and do what people did at night in Soho... drink, take recreational substances and have a laugh. I was not a 'Goth', far from it, I was (and still am) from the generation just before that, the late 70's but the fun was there to be had without taking yourself or anything else too seriously! Good video.
This video is very informative. As a new comer to the goth subculture I'm trying to learn as much as I can about the history of goth. Thank you for this video.
I miss Gosspis. Missed out on the 1st wave but was there for Malice in Underworld and the Metal nights in the 90s'. I also played there in the late 90s'.
Really enjoyed your video! I never went to the Batcave but I knew about it and, if I'm not mistaken the Young Limbs album came with a t-shirt which I wore to death, clearly intentionally, over a fishnet shirt I had made to suit the look. The Batcave was really the second "club" that drew my young attention. Studio 54 was the first but it was the club scene that was appealing and the Batcave seemed to have that going for it. Danceteria, upstairs, was probably the club that gave me the most Batcave vibes that I went to. They had a bartender who sported a stunning goth look with a massive black mohawk. I clubbed for decades after but enjoy reminiscing on how combustible the scenes were back then, and how the Goth scene is present as ever. The Batcave's recent box set compilation with a book was nice. I think it's a great starting point for new goth fans, but I'm sure you have it too! Thanks for the video, thoroughly enjoyed it.
I went to The Batcave in Hollywood back in the day (early 80s), checking out memories from back in the day. It's really nice that you put this together and keep the memories alive. Thank you.
Very informative interesting and straight putting video you made here 😉. One can have a fresh look at the origins of what we call Goth nowadays... It's significant that these bands like The Cure didn't adopt the name Goth to their music style and that of Bauhaus... As an "elderly Goth" I didn't even think of a Goth myself even though I have this life style since 1984! At the time the were different styles as you mentioned like Punk, Death rock, New wave, New Romantics, Glam Rock and Disco and people did experiment with their styles. Things weren't rigid but there was this space to make your own story or tribute to join in to the scene! 🕸🕷
Glad I saw Specimen and Bauhaus in 80s even if Bauhaus was a reunion type gig Murphy was cool. Sisters of Mercy went from hillbilly rock to gothish.. All ages no booze after hours are something a lot of kids missed.
I'm an old goth from the 80's and 90's era and when we went out there we no goth clubs just goth nights at least that's how it was for the Portland Oregon scene at the time great bands a lot of fun.And btw your channel is really good just subbed a few weeks ago love the level of detail in your work great vids
I think that's how many places are. LA has some dedicated spooky clubs but a majority of the best goth atmospheres come from goth nights held by passionate people. Thanks for the compliment and watching! :D
Good video. I've heard about the Bat Cave in a small articles in a magazine called Metal Maniacs from 1980s and 1990s they would have underground music from all over the world not just the main popular ones. This is were I got all of my underground music information before the internet and after internet bubble burst. Then company of Metal Maniacs closed down sold the company which owned by prime media or something like it located in New York. You may have heard of this magazine.
My favourite group at that time who don`t seem to get mentioned very often in relation to the early Goth days is UK Decay,check them out....they were superb,and are still recording and playing live.
Late 90's early 2000's we had 3 goth clubs in Cleveland all going on at once. The Chamber, Tyr and Matrix ( a one night a week thing). It was a pretty cool time and music was great.
Very good video. Lots of good information. It’s tough to find facts within something so legendary like the Batcave but you did an excellent job. Not sure if you’ve covered it but there was also ‘Batcave nights’ at an old club in Long Beach CA called Jets in the late 80’s-early 90’s. I’d seen many bands there like Shadow Project, Community FK, London After Midnight, 45 Grave and others I barely remember.
fascinating! thank you so much for recognizing The Batcave! (never got to go, but i remember reading about it -- still have my old Propaganda magazines!) -- and yes, as with early "punk" (BEFORE the media stuck us with that label), early "Goth" seemed very much DIY, not pre-packaged "fashion," and NOT seen as "attractive" by the mainstream . . . and as others have commented, my impression is that what became known as "Goth" kinda grew out of elements of "punk"/independent/experimental music :)
I'm both a goth and a metalhead. I've been a metalhead and goth equally both for 12 years. Batcave was one of the first things that I found when I got into goth culture.🤘🏽 ... Mainly when it comes to goth I love Bauhaus Christian Death Shadow Age Sisters of mercy O.children And tons more..🐺🦉🕯🕯🕯🦉🐺🦇
I loved Young Limbs And Numb Hymns! When I was about 16 a friend at school, Colin Campbell, lent it me & I just played it to death. This was before I'd ever gone to any goth pubs or clubs. When I was in my late 20s, in the late 1990s, Gossips was operating in the cellar bar in Dean Street & we'd go down there. We were too late for the Batcave but it was good, like we were visiting an historical site. I was devastated when it got turned into a yuppie winebar.
This is excellent. I was so tempted to do a video on this because I myself have been doing research to better understanding certain things. You nailed it. Subscribing! Keep doing what you're doing. Very well executed.
By summer 1984 in London, I was a regular then at a goth club next to the famous Heaven's club, same block, entry opposite side which was called because of this, as I remember, "Heaven's Batcave"...and I guess this was out of any confusion with Meard or Dean Street, Soho ! Every regulars I knew did call it Batcave too, I saw Ollie Wisdom at once, entrance was £ 3 and I remember for one pound extra you'd get a membership card that was a sort of red thin carton with a drawing of Superman and read "The Batcave" indeed (!) Charing Cross is no Soho, was it just a temporary installation for Batcave ? ? ? ? Leaving England soon after, I heard no more about it...Anyone there to provide me with information ?
Awesome 👍 I've seen and played with most of these band's... Yeah, Goth was and always has been a unground movement meet , and a lot of the club's where private after hours, invite club's, at least that's the way it was in L.A. Hollywood days 🖤
Первые готы были такими ками они были в том клубе . Но это глупо отрицать то что Batcave это корни нашей субкультуры . И от туда вышли настоящие гот банды которые мы сейчас знаем и любим . Вы классики гот сцены .
I like your videos - they are entertaining, informative and seem to be well researched. And - because of your review on David J.'s "Who killed Mr. Moonlight" I ordered a copy of this book! :) I didn't know there was a Bauhaus book published, and now I'm very excited to read it!
I'm not goth, (I'm part of the greaser/rockabilly culture in Los Angeles, CA) but I do love and respect the culture as so many of us in my subculture do. Los Angeles is just a dark city, so go figure. lol Great video, enjoyed your explanation and the visuals as well. Props to you for being interested in a subculture from before your time (like me).
I knew about Batcave and I wanted to visit it when I was old enough but I was still at school . Unfortunately by the time I was old enough and had the money to get there , It was gone . Damn shame . I later met people who went and they only had positive things to say about it . Goth was not a name at fist . Older people and "Normies " considerred them depressed Punks . It wasnt about wearing black and they didnt often wear large boots . These early clubs were more likely to play David Bowie than Bauhaus . Robert Smith didnt like the negative fixations on Death , I met him doing small gigs around Crawley my hometown . It is strange people refer back to the height of Goth as being the 80s but we didnt even know we were at the time and the fashion was what came from altered charity shops clothing .We had no money
Thanks for making this video! I'm a goth weirdo like you! lol 😁 By the way the people who went to the Batcave sessions were post-punk goth, that's the reason why there were a variety of different looks (but nothing like Madonna's)!
unless you were there and took inventory of everyone's style, you can't possibly know that they were all post-punk goth. He is simply saying there are references from many things happening in the 80's.
i kind of agree with Robert Smith a bit when he said that death is not romantic. its not i lolst my grandparents when i was 14 its not romantic....am i still a goth???? help me lol...seriously though am i still a great goth?
Great video, just one thing, at 4:13 it's pronounced 'Les-ter' square, sorry to be pedantic but I'm British (went to the Batcave back in the day!) just jars on the ears a bit. :))
GothCast Video Do go! There's a festival happening, simultaneously, called Gothic Pogo-- which looks like an homage to the Bat Cave. Air fare is cheap right now from the US.
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I liked your video a lot. People need to understand just how cool it is, at your age, to even know any of this and stop bagging on your for not crediting EVERYONE. There's even a punk doc about the lost years of the 80's punk, post punk, and goth because of the lack of documentation for any of it. I feel you did a great job. Having been in high school at that time it really brings back memories. I was (specifically) an industrial goth. Still have my hand spiked, studded jacket with my boys don't cry back patch and patches (and paint) for sister's of mercy, bauhaus, Christian death, cocteau twins, dead can dance, the smiths (even thought Morrissey shouldn't be anywhere near Robert Smith, etc... I'm 50 now (with purple hair)and still listen to all of it. I admire that you're keeping it alive. 😊👍❤
lol what keeping it alive like people´s cultures go away ? stfu !
Turning 50 this year,, I will always be that Death Rocker kid...
I signed Specimen to music publishing and managed them until they were able to manage the whole club and band , we then made the Batcave Album in my studio TRIDENT and we did the deal with SIRE . I was also a DJ playing dark electronica since 1978.
A very cool picture of you shapersofthe80s.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/c3014-rusty-atdeck-ts720.jpg
Would there be a Batcave without The Blitz ?
:O whoa that is badass !
@@antoinebeauman The Blitz was playing not only electronic and by 1982 -4 we had opend The Camden Palace and Tuesdays was called TRASH and we booked bands and I was producing and DJing . I signed bands and produced them and I also made The Senate with Kirk Brandon remixes Spear of Destiny Liberator extended and Burundi Drummers [ Antmusic ] and The Anvil Visage and loads more ....It was a sound we wanted and bands not dance music but dark electro like DAF Sisiters of Mercy The Cult SOD Killing Joke and The Banshees and I played DJ Sets at Trash . Hamsih made Batcave his own and like me when a club changes DJ they often lose the whole heart of the club....rustyeganpresents1.bandcamp.com/track/rusty-egan-presents-back-to-burundi-ft-marco-pirroni
And Visage and Ultravox?,…. Thank you for your awesome contribution to my teenage years
Absolutely tremendous 🖤👍
Someone better make a movie about the bat cave would be so intresting ngl
Yes. But you know how badly cast films like that can be. And how goofy. Let's just think of the real thing.
Not only as a member of Sexbeat but also as the Batcave DJ, I have to send a message to you, Rudi.You make no mention at all of the Batcave DJ. One reason it was successful was because of the music that was played in there. I would normally play a 4-5 hour set every Wednesday and would bring to the tables what I was witnessing in concert halls. You have no idea how much this was radical as no one had played this stuff as dance music before (it was always a scrum in the Roxy!) It was the playlist of the Batcave, particularly by 1984, that defined its members.
Regarding the bit in your piece about the decline of the Batcave, in 1985 I was a victim of the paranoia of Specimen and was forced out after two and a half years.
No one could replicate my setlist - that was one reason the club declined. I knew the crews that went down there; they deserted the club because no one played their music any more.
I am surprised you make no reference to the music I played as it was a such time of change going on - with the advent of midi, drum machines and synths. As a maker and vendor of badges for the likes of Bauhaus, the Cure, Banshees, SDC, Killing Joke, New Order, PIL, the Cramps and so many more, I got to meet the crews a lot, and now being of age, the time was ripe to channel these kids into a club where their music was being played. Plus it was the first club to start playing 'alternative' music as club music...as dance music. It wasn't all Specimen you know.The most iconic and danceable plays on my turntables initially were Bowie, Iggy Pop, Generation X, T Rex, Bauhaus, Banshees, the Cure. the Clash, The Sex Pistols, Joy Division, ESG, the Psychedelic Furs, the New York Dolls, the Meteors, the Cramps, the Sweet, The Ramones, Jimi Hendrix...
The totemic stuff came after in waves, surfing on the sonic backdrop of this 'non funk' club - UK Decay, ASF, Sexbeat, Sex Gang Children, Southern Death Cult, Christian Death, Sisters of Mercy, March Violets, Dead Kennedys...
Any time you or any other researcher wants a more complete version of our history, I am always open to debate and contribution. H
its disgraceful that you invented this thing that everyone loves yet are written out of people's histories of this stuff and are not so well known. something has to be done about this. especially when people say how important the music is to the scene.
Thank you...trying to compile some playlists for release soon too
Was going to ask if you had a top 100 list of the most iconic tunes you played.
It's in the middle of being composed...but, if you want to know the top 10 most influential, most played and most iconic, I would have to submit (in no particular order):
Siouxsie and the Banshees: Christine
Bauhaus:Bela Lugosi's dead
Joy Division: She's lost control
The Cramps: Garbageman
The Sex Pistols: Submission
The Cure: A Forest
The Sisters of Mercy: Alice
Sexbeat: Sexbeat
The Virgin Prunes: Pagan Love Song
Generation X: Dancing with myself
don´t you find it funny that people are still styled like this
If you look at 11:11 you will see Morten Harket dancing who became famous as the singer of the group A-ha.
I went there in early 1984.. was such a brilliant funny night..as it says in the doc, we weren't there to shock, we went to entertain ourselves...the music was brilliant, esp alien sex fiend live..best times!!
I was there , in nearly all the clubs , batcave, fouberts, heaven, gossips on Mondays , Kitcat club, in carnaby street , westbourne grove, the old church near Holborn tube, the old bank in angel and the last one still existing near angel tube. The tourists didn't go inside clubs but took a lot of pictures when you were outside or in pubs like the dog star .
I wish there was some kind of goth club around where i live but there is pretty much a complete lack of a goth scene in general where i live. Interesting video
I was in a band with Sophie of Sexbeat, I used to work at The Batcave, it WASN'T 'serious', Specimen were funny and had great senses of humour, especially Jon who was a good friend of mine (and married to Sophie by the way), we'd go down there and do what people did at night in Soho... drink, take recreational substances and have a laugh. I was not a 'Goth', far from it, I was (and still am) from the generation just before that, the late 70's but the fun was there to be had without taking yourself or anything else too seriously!
Good video.
Been Catching up on your Videos and Im HOOKED on your Channel!!!!!
I'm glad you enjoy them! :D Thank you so much for watching!
This video is very informative. As a new comer to the goth subculture I'm trying to learn as much as I can about the history of goth. Thank you for this video.
Oh yes memories. Used to have Live at the BatCave vhs and sure I still have my BatCave LP. Awesome pics. Great history.
I tbought this was about the batcave club in ny..i played in the band (ttv) and played there in the early ninties . Fun days!
I am so glad I discovered this channel. So awesome.
I miss Gosspis. Missed out on the 1st wave but was there for Malice in Underworld and the Metal nights in the 90s'. I also played there in the late 90s'.
Really enjoyed your video! I never went to the Batcave but I knew about it and, if I'm not mistaken the Young Limbs album came with a t-shirt which I wore to death, clearly intentionally, over a fishnet shirt I had made to suit the look. The Batcave was really the second "club" that drew my young attention. Studio 54 was the first but it was the club scene that was appealing and the Batcave seemed to have that going for it. Danceteria, upstairs, was probably the club that gave me the most Batcave vibes that I went to. They had a bartender who sported a stunning goth look with a massive black mohawk. I clubbed for decades after but enjoy reminiscing on how combustible the scenes were back then, and how the Goth scene is present as ever. The Batcave's recent box set compilation with a book was nice. I think it's a great starting point for new goth fans, but I'm sure you have it too! Thanks for the video, thoroughly enjoyed it.
BTW - Bat Cave is back this weekend - at Monster Queen in Camden London. The original organisers. Google - Monster Queen Bat Cave.
Does anyone know where I could get the batwing coffin necklace that was shown in the video?? Thanks so much!!!
Thanks for using the film I edited for Thames tv.
I went to The Batcave in Hollywood back in the day (early 80s), checking out memories from back in the day.
It's really nice that you put this together and keep the memories alive. Thank you.
Very informative interesting and straight putting video you made here 😉. One can have a fresh look at the origins of what we call Goth nowadays... It's significant that these bands like The Cure didn't adopt the name Goth to their music style and that of Bauhaus... As an "elderly Goth" I didn't even think of a Goth myself even though I have this life style since 1984! At the time the were different styles as you mentioned like Punk, Death rock, New wave, New Romantics, Glam Rock and Disco and people did experiment with their styles. Things weren't rigid but there was this space to make your own story or tribute to join in to the scene! 🕸🕷
I am so happy I found your channel!!!
Glad I saw Specimen and Bauhaus in 80s even if Bauhaus was a reunion type gig Murphy was cool. Sisters of Mercy went from hillbilly rock to gothish.. All ages no booze after hours are something a lot of kids missed.
Thanks for this, I didn’t know the history. And I saw this new compilation on vinyl coming out Young Limbs Rise Again….looks amazing.
Good video. Just spotted my wife Linzi (in the middle) at 1 min 40. She knows a lot about the place and was very friendly with Specimen
I was all drain pipes, ankle boots spending most of my weekends hanging around Carnaby Street pouting..... happy 80's years being a Goth....
Great vid, very interesting and well researched. Always wanted to find more about this venue and about the counter culture it sustained. Good stuff.
This is probably the closest thing I've seen to how it was back in the early 80's, congratulations Sir! Great channel.
Nice work man, lots of impressive research!
Same happened to Manchesters goth rock club Jilly's it became a tourist venue and emos killed it watered down the vibe and it died
I'm an old goth from the 80's and 90's era and when we went out there we no goth clubs just goth nights at least that's how it was for the Portland Oregon scene at the time great bands a lot of fun.And btw your channel is really good just subbed a few weeks ago love the level of detail in your work great vids
I think that's how many places are. LA has some dedicated spooky clubs but a majority of the best goth atmospheres come from goth nights held by passionate people. Thanks for the compliment and watching! :D
I'm a young goth in Portland and now there are so many goth clubs but not many things for teens:(.
Good video. I've heard about the Bat Cave in a small articles in a magazine called Metal Maniacs from 1980s and 1990s they would have underground music from all over the world not just the main popular ones. This is were I got all of my underground music information before the internet and after internet bubble burst. Then company of Metal Maniacs closed down sold the company which owned by prime media or something like it located in New York. You may have heard of this magazine.
Thanks for doing this video!
I was there for opening night, and many times after that too. Good times...
Very interesting. It actually seems to have evolved out of the British punk scene. Wish I had gotten to go to the Batcave! Thank you for the history!
My favourite group at that time who don`t seem to get mentioned very often in relation to the early Goth days is UK Decay,check them out....they were superb,and are still recording and playing live.
My favourite club, some great memories.
Late 90's early 2000's we had 3 goth clubs in Cleveland all going on at once. The Chamber, Tyr and Matrix ( a one night a week thing). It was a pretty cool time and music was great.
Very good video. Lots of good information. It’s tough to find facts within something so legendary like the Batcave but you did an excellent job. Not sure if you’ve covered it but there was also ‘Batcave nights’ at an old club in Long Beach CA called Jets in the late 80’s-early 90’s. I’d seen many bands there like Shadow Project, Community FK, London After Midnight, 45 Grave and others I barely remember.
Great video. Thanks for the insight.
very informative and interesting to watch! I always had questions about the Batcave but never bothered to search, thanks for feeding my noggin!
We weren’t called Goth. We were called freaks but none of us cared about labels back then.
BRILLIANT - presented by an American too - the USA/Australian youth need to understand this.
Been there many times
hell yea
fascinating! thank you so much for recognizing The Batcave! (never got to go, but i remember reading about it -- still have my old Propaganda magazines!) -- and yes, as with early "punk" (BEFORE the media stuck us with that label), early "Goth" seemed very much DIY, not pre-packaged "fashion," and NOT seen as "attractive" by the mainstream . . . and as others have commented, my impression is that what became known as "Goth" kinda grew out of elements of "punk"/independent/experimental music :)
I'm both a goth and a metalhead. I've been a metalhead and goth equally both for 12 years.
Batcave was one of the first things that I found when I got into goth culture.🤘🏽 ...
Mainly when it comes to goth I love
Bauhaus
Christian Death
Shadow Age
Sisters of mercy
O.children
And tons more..🐺🦉🕯🕯🕯🦉🐺🦇
I loved Young Limbs And Numb Hymns! When I was about 16 a friend at school, Colin Campbell, lent it me & I just played it to death. This was before I'd ever gone to any goth pubs or clubs. When I was in my late 20s, in the late 1990s, Gossips was operating in the cellar bar in Dean Street & we'd go down there. We were too late for the Batcave but it was good, like we were visiting an historical site. I was devastated when it got turned into a yuppie winebar.
Super happy to have found your channel :) good job!
This is excellent. I was so tempted to do a video on this because I myself have been doing research to better understanding certain things. You nailed it. Subscribing! Keep doing what you're doing. Very well executed.
anyone know where I can get a batcave tee?
By summer 1984 in London, I was a regular then at a goth club next to the famous Heaven's club, same block, entry opposite side which was called because of this, as I remember, "Heaven's Batcave"...and I guess this was out of any confusion with Meard or Dean Street, Soho !
Every regulars I knew did call it Batcave too, I saw Ollie Wisdom at once, entrance was £ 3 and I remember for one pound extra you'd get a membership card that was a sort of red thin carton with a drawing of Superman and read "The Batcave" indeed (!)
Charing Cross is no Soho, was it just a temporary installation for Batcave ? ? ? ?
Leaving England soon after, I heard no more about it...Anyone there to provide me with information ?
Awesome 👍 I've seen and played with most of these band's... Yeah, Goth was and always has been a unground movement meet , and a lot of the club's where private after hours, invite club's, at least that's the way it was in L.A. Hollywood days 🖤
they need to interview some of the people who went there a lot.they have documentaries on the blitz club and the rum runner club.
Great video!. Thanks for sharing all this info.
Greetings from Amsterdam
Первые готы были такими ками они были в том клубе . Но это глупо отрицать то что Batcave это корни нашей субкультуры . И от туда вышли настоящие гот банды которые мы сейчас знаем и любим . Вы классики гот сцены .
I like your videos - they are entertaining, informative and seem to be well researched.
And - because of your review on David J.'s "Who killed Mr. Moonlight" I ordered a copy of this book! :) I didn't know there was a Bauhaus book published, and now I'm very excited to read it!
I hope you enjoy it! :D Thank you so much for the kind words
Thanks for doing this. I had no idea this existed.
Thank you so much for this - great job !
You might want to check out Slash Flip side, Maximum rock and roll, from S.F...Magizines... I know for a fact that they ran stories about it, Cheers 🍻
Great videos. Thanks
I wish they had a place like this in Louisiana Lafayette for mine art of darkness and death would be nice
Lovely video, very informational :)
Thank you for informing about this!
Good job, Awesome video !
I'm not goth, (I'm part of the greaser/rockabilly culture in Los Angeles, CA) but I do love and respect the culture as so many of us in my subculture do. Los Angeles is just a dark city, so go figure. lol Great video, enjoyed your explanation and the visuals as well. Props to you for being interested in a subculture from before your time (like me).
There was one in NYC I been to
very interesting! great video!
I actually figured it was Tuesdays! haha
Great video.
I wish i grew up in the batcave era.
Specimen rocks.
Who's been sleeping in my brain
Your knowledge is great
T Rex and Ziggy
well done
When I saw the title of this video I thought it was going to be Albion's Batcave in NYC
Yeah, those were good days.
You did your home work, Well done my friend.
I knew about Batcave and I wanted to visit it when I was old enough but I was still at school . Unfortunately by the time I was old enough and had the money to get there , It was gone . Damn shame . I later met people who went and they only had positive things to say about it . Goth was not a name at fist . Older people and "Normies " considerred them depressed Punks .
It wasnt about wearing black and they didnt often wear large boots . These early clubs were more likely to play David Bowie than Bauhaus . Robert Smith didnt like the negative fixations on Death , I met him doing small gigs around Crawley my hometown . It is strange people refer back to the height of Goth as being the 80s but we didnt even know we were at the time and the fashion was what came from altered charity shops clothing .We had no money
i love your videos, you deserve more views!!!
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I used to have the look exactly like at 1mn 45 in 1982 to1987
Thanks for making this video! I'm a goth weirdo like you! lol 😁 By the way the people who went to the Batcave sessions were post-punk goth, that's the reason why there were a variety of different looks (but nothing like Madonna's)!
unless you were there and took inventory of everyone's style, you can't possibly know that they were all post-punk goth. He is simply saying there are references from many things happening in the 80's.
i kind of agree with Robert Smith a bit when he said that death is not romantic. its not i lolst my grandparents when i was 14 its not romantic....am i still a goth???? help me lol...seriously though am i still a great goth?
Bro did I just here the ksp theme at the start of this vid?
I was there I think on tuesdays we didn't really use the word goth that much
Remember the toilets we didn't dress like goth but we were there every week never saw any tourists in there
i was never there, but i do not recall the term "Goth" at all back then
thank you :)
Great video, just one thing, at 4:13 it's pronounced 'Les-ter' square, sorry to be pedantic but I'm British (went to the Batcave back in the day!) just jars on the ears a bit. :))
This was really interesting!
Wish this place was still open. Would love to attend.
lol this styled like how we grew up is s o w e i r d
haha, that's my tumblr! (squelettedelicieux) @0:44 :)
I like your hair and makeup here.
things like this make my wish for a goth event near me, but im one of the very few goths in my area so it'll probably never happen :(
Great video,i miss the early days of goth when it wasn't the all black look.
Love your bat cave shirt where did you get it 😎😎😎
I crafted it together with my hands 👐
Great thanks
Queria entender a história 🦇 The Batcave, sou fã de Alien Sex Fiend, entendo um pouco inglês.
Have you been to WGT?
I haven't, but I would love to go one day!
GothCast Video Do go! There's a festival happening, simultaneously, called Gothic Pogo-- which looks like an homage to the Bat Cave. Air fare is cheap right now from the US.
Oh absolutely come! I can also really recommend the when we were young party!
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this was very insightful, Leicester is pronounced like "Lester" btw
I almost thought u were blue until I looked back at your other vids.
We all feel blue sometimes
And this is why I subscribed ^w^
i wish you had subtitles on your videos