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  • "In a shrine to the worst excesses of Bram Stoker and Edgar Allan Poe, the goths congregate..."
    London Plus reporter Antonia Higgs skulks around a graveyard to investigate a strange new youth subculture, the goths. She chats to Sean Cronin of The Screaming Marionettes, Dave Vanian of the Damned and fashion designer Laurie Vanian about the appeal of goth music, fashion and culture. Can goth survive in the mainstream, or is it inherently underground?
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  • @NickDusting
    @NickDusting 2 года назад +591

    Old goths never die... they just...look like they have.

    • @brianartillery
      @brianartillery 2 года назад +16

      Funniest thing I ever saw, many years ago, was a load of Goths on the rides at a funfair. Not knocking them, I'm sure they were having a lot of fun - but it did look strange.

    • @astroboirap
      @astroboirap 2 года назад +1

      fat guy from cure

    • @Wunjo-Wunjo
      @Wunjo-Wunjo 2 года назад +4

      Ha! Fantastic! I loved being a goth, such fun.

    • @belisare4397
      @belisare4397 2 года назад +5

      The goths went to retail. That's what happened lol

    • @baabaabaa2293
      @baabaabaa2293 2 года назад +5

      I loved some of the band's, Banshees & Birthday Party...but like punk it was better as an underground thing...than everyone tryna look like Siouxie or Pete Murphy.

  • @spungfoo
    @spungfoo 2 года назад +306

    It warms my cold, dead heart that goth culture has persisted to this day.

    • @marknewbold2583
      @marknewbold2583 2 года назад

      Not a culture

    • @exquisitecorpse__
      @exquisitecorpse__ 2 года назад +8

      @@marknewbold2583 what would you call it?

    • @poptart6210
      @poptart6210 2 года назад +9

      Unfortunately it hasnt i was interested (as i always loved GOTH MUSIC) instead i was greeted by a bunch of people listening to lil peep yung blud and a bunch of early 2000s rock and emo music.GOTH IS DEAD

    • @ladyvioletoftheravens2395
      @ladyvioletoftheravens2395 2 года назад +12

      @@poptart6210 It's alive and well, just a bit out of the public eye now... we still exist, plus, there's still new goth bands forming like Mystic Priestess, Lebanon Hanover, or Haunt Me
      There is quite the epidemic of a misunderstanding of what Goth is, though, I must admit. A lot of people seem to think that goth is just being depressed and wearing black which it is not. And so many people get confused when I bring up that my favourite band is the Sisters of Mercy and not something like Billie Eilish or 21 Pilots or whatever.
      But no, Goth is still alive, just a bit more spread out and smaller but still alive and well and I don't think it will die anytime soon

    • @baabaabaa2293
      @baabaabaa2293 2 года назад

      @@ladyvioletoftheravens2395 It started bcos all early punk bands sounded different, The Damned got a following, the Banshees etc then Bauhaus were probably a blueprint.
      Some of the shite that passes for it nowadays...ld rather listen to skapunk & l never listen to skapunk...it's an abomination.

  • @snuffme
    @snuffme 2 года назад +228

    things like this make me wish i was around in the 80s. i love the goth scene now so much but something about the 80s goth scene is just magical to me

    • @donnasmyth45
      @donnasmyth45 2 года назад +11

      I turned 50 a fortnight ago. I was a goth in the mid 80s in Belfast..Good times, despite it being in the midst of 'The Troubles'.

    • @nope4309
      @nope4309 2 года назад

      Magical? Hmm idkw it reminds me of scooby doo on one end so u could be right and on the other hand it's seems a but too much for me, ig it's not my cup of tea

    • @snuffme
      @snuffme 2 года назад +17

      @@nope4309 yeah, not for you then

    • @Banshun
      @Banshun 2 года назад +4

      @@donnasmyth45 Me too. I was a goth from the mid 80s onwards. I still only wear mostly black to this day.

    • @notsure1135
      @notsure1135 2 года назад +1

      There was no panopticon.

  • @julianhermanubis6800
    @julianhermanubis6800 2 года назад +373

    It took until the second wave of goth rock for the BBC to actually notice it as a cultural thing. And 1987 is well into the second wave, since the Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nephilim and the like had already released multiple LPs and the Damned had already gone full goth for at least two or more years.

    • @pressureworks
      @pressureworks 2 года назад +14

      Incorrect. John Peel had been playing Goth bands on his BBC Radio Shows since the beginning. Perhaps there were proper reports in previous years.

    • @nichotto
      @nichotto 2 года назад +15

      The Batcave opened in 1982.

    • @julianhermanubis6800
      @julianhermanubis6800 2 года назад +14

      @@pressureworks I was aware of the Peel sessions, but I was talking more about the news side. It's 1987, but they seem to be treating goth as if they just encountered some shocking new cultural trend.

    • @pressureworks
      @pressureworks 2 года назад

      @@julianhermanubis6800 silly trend yes, shocking, no.

    • @julianhermanubis6800
      @julianhermanubis6800 2 года назад +9

      @@pressureworks Regardless, goth is fun. It shares its flair for the melodramatic with certain types of metal music, and the vintage horror film esthetic is entertaining. I am sort of glad for people who carried the fashion side to its extremes, because I wouldn't want the entire world to be full of accountants.

  • @ambrsanford3703
    @ambrsanford3703 2 года назад +127

    In my recent trip to London, I spotted more than a few aging goths trooping it out to the bitter end. You have to admire it. And Dave Vanian is still 🖤🔥

    • @brianmorecombe2726
      @brianmorecombe2726 2 года назад +1

      What they still dress up and look like that now at 50/60+ years old? lmao

    • @ambrsanford3703
      @ambrsanford3703 2 года назад +11

      @@brianmorecombe2726 Some even looked ln the 70's age group. I like to think I'd be down for another mohawk in my 70's. Pink and all.

    • @brianmorecombe2726
      @brianmorecombe2726 2 года назад +2

      @@ambrsanford3703 Each to their own,just a bit funny

    • @marknewbold2583
      @marknewbold2583 2 года назад +3

      Like Teddy Boys

    • @julianhermanubis6800
      @julianhermanubis6800 2 года назад +11

      ​@@brianmorecombe2726 Actually, if you're dressing up like you're in a Hammer horror film every day, it's timeless in a weird way. A lot of mainstream 1980s fashion looks more dated or retro than the goth stuff, which was always kind of "out there."

  • @julianhermanubis6800
    @julianhermanubis6800 2 года назад +65

    "Sorry, but I'm afraid your graveyard has a serious goth infestation."

  • @auralepiphanies4055
    @auralepiphanies4055 Год назад +21

    Dave Vanian is seriously one of the most beautiful human beings that ever lived. He was like movie star hot. lol

  • @demonprince2646
    @demonprince2646 2 года назад +100

    I’m proud to say it, but I’ve been a part of the Goth community for now over a decade and a half. I will always remember being in the car as a 6 year old listening to my moms CD’s and even being as young as I was, completely falling in love with the music immediately. The Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen, New Order, Depeche Mode, all of it just opened my eyes to what the world of music could be. I didn’t have to listen to Taylor Swift and Maroon 5 like all the other kids, I could fall in love with a sound that spoke to me. So, I grew up doing so, listening to the music, learning about the culture, and even adding in my other interests which fit themselves in quite nicely as well. Tim Burton and Literary Writing being two examples. So, now as an 18 year old, here I am studying English Literature, Creative Writing, Film, Poetry, and even Theatre. To think I could have told the small child I was back then, the child who was singing True Faith by New Order during 4th grade history class one day, that they would grow up to still love everything that made the others call them “weird” or a “freak” and continue to embrace it and love themselves, I know they would be so proud.🖤🥀
    “You can’t allow other people to put a price on what you do, otherwise you don’t consider what you do to have any value at all, and that’s nonsense.”
    -Robert Smith🕷🕸

    • @176gumi
      @176gumi Год назад

      you're awesome man

  • @goudagirl6095
    @goudagirl6095 2 года назад +45

    I was a fringe 'goth girl' in the 80s...and now that I'm years old, the majority of my wardrobe still consists of black, with many gothic touches (I do have a 'respectable' day job so I can't get too crazy). I've always been a night owl, so the goth look seemed to fit!

    • @Mynnia
      @Mynnia Год назад +1

      I love seeing elder Goths.

    • @layditms2
      @layditms2 Год назад

      @@Mynnia Criinge word
      lol

  • @brianartillery
    @brianartillery 2 года назад +55

    Only five years too late. I was a Goth in 1982. Ah, well, you got(h) there eventually, BBC.

  • @hazelwray4184
    @hazelwray4184 Год назад +21

    In 1987 I visited a shop that (had) sold mainly black, Goth oriented clothes. To my surprise Prince's Sign o' the Times album was being played in its entirety and the clothing had changed. Notably, that year The Cult had reorientated to an American rock audience. 1988, Siouxsie and the Banshee's released Peepshow which felt like the end of an era. I recall one or two 'alternative' clubs playing Pump up the Volume etc - rave and 'madchester' was about to happen.

    • @ivorytower99
      @ivorytower99 Год назад

      "Notably, that year ('87) The Cult had reorientated to an American rock audience. 1988, Siouxsie and the Banshee's released Peepshow which felt like the end of an era." *Yup!*

    • @m.scottmcgahan9900
      @m.scottmcgahan9900 Год назад

      Yeah, all of my favourite bands started releasing really commercialized albums around that time, not just Siouxsie Peepshow and The Cult Sonic Temple, but Echo and the Bunnymen, Love & Rockets, Depeche Mode, R.E.M., The Cure, Billy Idol all made bids for mainstream MTV success around then.

    • @timc6669
      @timc6669 Год назад +3

      Lucky I was into both the goth scene and Madchester, remember buying Peepshow and Bummed (Happy Mondays) on the day of the release of Bummed. Peepshow came out a couple of months earlier but I didn't get round to buying it until a few months after. Good Times. 👍

    • @layditms2
      @layditms2 Год назад

      !
      And in the nineties it was the Normie imitators
      Glad people are sharing what actually went on
      Posting this kind of stuff for years and never, or rarely, seeing others posting the same
      ha ha

  • @dublev78
    @dublev78 Год назад +34

    Are you a goth?
    No, I’m a vampire.
    What do you mean?
    LOL

  • @genoveva2202
    @genoveva2202 9 месяцев назад +3

    They are so SO cool... I wish i could look like them, to talk with them, drink something or idk... I love this culture so much, im so glad im part of it

  • @miusela
    @miusela 2 года назад +15

    Thank you for sharing this gem 🖤🕸🦇

  • @joaoguimaraes4993
    @joaoguimaraes4993 Год назад +5

    The fantastic Patricia Morrison talking...the damned and from sisters of mercy......

  • @elliottclark1340
    @elliottclark1340 2 года назад +13

    I really want to see the people in this video of how they are now & whether they’ve changed or not

    • @pobstrel
      @pobstrel 2 года назад +5

      Dave Vanian is still recording and touring with The Damned.

    • @PhoenixOne
      @PhoenixOne Год назад +17

      *Waves* Hiya! Well, from the people that are still alive (Wilf the vampire (the guy on the left in the cover pic) is no longer with us. At least three in the Marionettes audience are also gone. But, Sean pretty much looks the same (minus the hair). And Mikey Bean (the guy coming out from behind the gravestones with Marnie) is also bald, but sports a magnificent dyed-green beard now. My hair is no longer black and backcombed (grey and ponytailed), and I am down to just eyeliner now when clubbing, I look pretty much the same but about 50 pounds heavier (it happens when you love cheese!)

  • @EmlynBoyle
    @EmlynBoyle 2 года назад +13

    Awesome. Thanks for this 🦇

  • @BeartoeConCarne
    @BeartoeConCarne Год назад +13

    I miss reading poetry with the goths 🖤

    • @corvideity
      @corvideity Год назад +2

      you're looking in the wrong place if you can't find them *shudders* tiktok

    • @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063
      @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063 Год назад

      Unleash the poetry 😊

    • @layditms2
      @layditms2 Год назад

      @@corvideity lol lmitators and tiktok is not Goth

    • @corvideity
      @corvideity Год назад

      @@layditms2 i was being sarcastic

  • @ronvanover7690
    @ronvanover7690 Год назад +4

    Witching Hour UK is my favorite band

  • @Paulstrickland01
    @Paulstrickland01 2 года назад +12

    In defence of goths and there creepy repressed serial killer vibes I think there's a case to be made for the return of capes.

  • @LiddoDippah
    @LiddoDippah Год назад +8

    Oh to be part of the goth scene in the mid 80’s in the UK…

  • @krisscanlon4051
    @krisscanlon4051 2 года назад +5

    Kinda jammed between punk new wave and right before new romantic movement. I suppose this caught on more so in recent years. Dave was ways a punk vampire. The swindle continues...this documentary is the height of it all and also if you went to a Depeche Mode and Cure concert you'd see the same goth peeps circa 1987.

  • @llengsuch3426
    @llengsuch3426 2 года назад +6

    Frying Tonight! What a carry on!

  • @lawrencehorner8418
    @lawrencehorner8418 2 года назад +13

    "We don't like fitting with the mainstream...aha, Duran Duran," said the most Duran Duran looking fellow in the video, lol!

    • @PhoenixOne
      @PhoenixOne Год назад +7

      In my defence, I was absolutely pissed by the time we got there. I was rambling to that Journalist for a straight 5 minutes, and they cut it down to that sound bite! Sheesh! And the make-up? We were asked by Sean to go overboard on the make-up and jewelry to look stranger than usual. But I'll take that Duran remark as a compliment! Cheers!

    • @PhoenixOne
      @PhoenixOne Год назад +4

      I was very, VERY, DRUNK at that point!

    • @Kblog777
      @Kblog777 Год назад +2

      Simon Lebon and Nick Rhodes flirted with goth imagery when they did their Arcadia side project.

  • @francozone3463
    @francozone3463 2 года назад +9

    Mum : David was always a soft soul growing up
    Goth : muuuum...shut uuuuup!

  • @moondreams876
    @moondreams876 2 года назад +12

    I said it wasn't a phase!

  • @CULT-CinemaRu
    @CULT-CinemaRu 2 года назад +12

    It has almost faded away in the end, but not quite, as in some parts of the world the gothic subculture is still a thing. Germany, for example.

    • @CULT-CinemaRu
      @CULT-CinemaRu 2 года назад +4

      ​@TUbIuyola dunno about imitation, but the average age of Wave Gotik Treffen visitors is about 35-40+ years old. So, the subculture is definitely dying, but still has enough followers to organize the parties and music festivals, some of which are big - WGT alone attracts about 20k people every year. And there are Orkus, Zillo and some others...

    • @Mistydazzle
      @Mistydazzle 2 года назад +1

      I know of teenagers, now, who are Goths.

    • @CULT-CinemaRu
      @CULT-CinemaRu 2 года назад

      @@Mistydazzle they must be rare breed then :)

    • @marsoblivi0n945
      @marsoblivi0n945 2 года назад +1

      It’s Emo posers now. Not the same at all

    • @CULT-CinemaRu
      @CULT-CinemaRu 2 года назад +2

      @@marsoblivi0n945 is Emo still a thing? I am shocked if it is :-[ ]

  • @alexa3669
    @alexa3669 7 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder if “what we do in the shadows” got ideas from this 😂

  • @charlie891
    @charlie891 2 года назад +11

    a strangely sympathetic portrayal

  • @standenberg
    @standenberg 2 года назад +40

    Vampires aren’t real unless you Count Dracula 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣😆

  • @benjaminclasper9355
    @benjaminclasper9355 Год назад +1

    Those wolf sounds at the beginning were used in quite a few bbc productions and the thunder sounds.

  • @tbeat03
    @tbeat03 Год назад +1

    that dog howl sound is classic. I'm wondering who recorded it. Anyone?

  • @amberlinmchugh8115
    @amberlinmchugh8115 Год назад +1

    " from the tombs of punk rock" dum dum dum.... not for the faint hearted. Hysterical

  • @gothicmatter9123
    @gothicmatter9123 Год назад +10

    That intro 🤣. So stereotypical I can't. Also, we goths are beautiful ppl💜🖤

  • @diegomolano9981
    @diegomolano9981 2 года назад +5

    what he said about goth never hitting the mainstream is untrue Siouxsie and the banshees did it

    • @hazelwray4184
      @hazelwray4184 Год назад +1

      On the whole; broadly speaking is what he was saying.
      Siouxsie was never comfortable being labelled 'Goth' - being linked/associated with the 'hammer horror' crowd.

    • @PhoenixOne
      @PhoenixOne Год назад

      What can I say, I was wrong... And also very, very, drunk. But I must disagree with you on one point, The Banshees were punk, and only got 3 minutes on TOTP doing Dear Prudence, The Cure were not Goth either. Bauhaus, Love & Rockets, The Sisters and The Mission had stronger claims. Next time I shall make wilder claims, and be more drunk!

    • @PhoenixOne
      @PhoenixOne Год назад

      @@hazelwray4184 That was exactly what I was saying! Thank you Hazel!

    • @PhoenixOne
      @PhoenixOne Год назад

      @Personal Jesus Dark themed songs on the albums Black Celebration to Ultra doesn't make them Goth, besides, they slipped along from New Wave, Light Industrial Dance, Stadium Rock, and some brooding Bluesy AOR before ending back where they started, Stripped down electronic synth pop. Top band, great live, but NOT Goth

    • @layditms2
      @layditms2 Год назад

      Definitely hit the mainstream

  • @antonyrobinson9973
    @antonyrobinson9973 2 года назад +3

    I thought Goth had faded away & them i went on holiday to Whitby, it's the last bastion of Gothdom.

  • @solitarianihilista1454
    @solitarianihilista1454 2 года назад +25

    Enjoyed this, even if there was a bit too much of the kind of pretentious knobbery that got Goth a bad name.

    • @pressureworks
      @pressureworks 2 года назад +4

      See most any music documentary, especially the punk rock ones, and you will see nearly exactly the same foolishness.

  • @andreasboose5611
    @andreasboose5611 4 месяца назад

    Awesome music, incredible haircuts, clothes and make up 🖤

  • @simoncollins6529
    @simoncollins6529 Год назад +2

    The little fat fella is Wilf. He was a regular around London gigs, he'd always be at The Damned, Dr and the Medics, and Playn Jayn

    • @QuadMochaMatti
      @QuadMochaMatti 15 дней назад

      Does he really appreciate being called out on his size like that? I thought society was beyond that at this point, if you pay any attention to all the yapping on social media...

  • @INFJparadox
    @INFJparadox Год назад +2

    I was 17 in 1987 :)

  • @adelemarieish
    @adelemarieish Год назад +1

    The first wave of Gothic, hmmm, to me when I heard UK Decay and bought the album by the Dark.

  • @killforfiend
    @killforfiend 2 года назад +16

    The time Alternative Subculture was at it’s Prime Until After 1994 When it tragically became a fashionable look with more metal music influence. Old Punk Never Dies! Forever Undead
    💀🪦🦇🕸🧷⛓

    • @ivorytower99
      @ivorytower99 Год назад

      *Yup. "Net goths" came in and commandeered. And they mainstreamed everything.*

    • @layditms2
      @layditms2 Год назад

      Lol It was the Normies who did it in the nineties

  • @phillipphinney206
    @phillipphinney206 3 месяца назад

    That old SNL skit "Goth Talk" they used to do in the 90's really got it right didn't they? With Molly Shannon and Chris Kittan and the theme song was Bauhaus "Bela Lugosi's Dead." Feckin' brilliant piss take.

  • @ramingo9534
    @ramingo9534 10 месяцев назад +1

    Living in a latin catholic country, I sometimes kind of envy the Protestant Lutheran and Anglican countries. They seems to tolerate more the sadness feeling and the Death topic, seems like they know how to deal with melancholy.
    Death is taboo worldwide of course but in my opinion it is literally denied in latin catholic countries.
    Happiness in Catholic countries is often childishly flaunted and it doesn't come from acceptance and tolerance but rather from denying melancholy and all its forms.
    Is there anyone here who comes from Northern countries and can confirm that? I mean, do you feel free to feel sad and don't be afraid of showing that?

    • @Saint.questions
      @Saint.questions 2 месяца назад

      Sadly alot of my experience as a protestant, people expect not only "happiness" but sometimes "ecstatic ecstasy" you should "feel the joy of the Lord" alllllll the time. Sweep the sad under the rug because we have no time. But there are pocket of those who live life truly knowing the depths of darkness of truth.

    • @ramingo9534
      @ramingo9534 2 месяца назад

      @Saint.questions thanks for your reply. So in the end it's a similar experience all over the world. I noticed you're from the US, do you think that the 'mandatory happiness' attitude is caused by Protestantism or rather because of 'American type' society? I guess in the USA it is literally forbidden to talk about a serious topic as the death. However, I agree, there are few people who are aware of death and doesn't feel ashamed of feel sad or talk about sadness and melancholy. True acceptance can be very difficult

  • @scdreitlein
    @scdreitlein 13 дней назад

    Not new by then, actually, but it does take a while. Did anyone else hope he didn't drop her down the stairs?

  • @superfoo8258
    @superfoo8258 Год назад +8

    Goth scene in the 80s was OG

    • @layditms2
      @layditms2 Год назад

      seventies
      lmao

    • @EfnysYersina
      @EfnysYersina 7 месяцев назад

      Goth scene in the 80's of the 5th century was OG

  • @unkle_Enkil
    @unkle_Enkil 2 года назад +17

    Awesome Dawson, Goth, then.., now.. forever and always. Good to see Dave and Patricia in their younger incarnation. The damned and sisters of mercy represented by those two. By the way I hate skulls, bats and all that Satan shite. Love velvet and the creative side of goth fashion.

    • @kirkgibson4502
      @kirkgibson4502 2 года назад +10

      I think you'll find that is Laurie vanian , Dave's first wife whom is a seamstress. Also American just as Patricia from the sister's of mercy whom Dave has been married to since the late 90's.

    • @unkle_Enkil
      @unkle_Enkil 2 года назад +1

      @@kirkgibson4502 : if you say so, no reason to doubt you. Not entirely convinced myself, either way great clip. Wonder what the vampires up to these days.?.

    • @Mr.Wrong1
      @Mr.Wrong1 2 года назад +4

      @@unkle_Enkil Kirk is 100% correct. That is Laurie not Patricia.

    • @unkle_Enkil
      @unkle_Enkil 2 года назад

      Guy's... let's not bicker over this issue. Had a poster on my wall of the goth goddess during my teenage years, must have knocked one out a couple of hundred if not thousands of times over her likeness, so I'm convinced it's her. But if I'm mistaken then so be it...Still have that poster somewhere, will have to dig it out at somepoint and er..well you know..☺

    • @pobstrel
      @pobstrel 2 года назад +2

      @@unkle_Enkil It's definitely Laurie not Patricia! Patricia was in the States at that time and never had a clothes shop.

  • @theasexualvampire13
    @theasexualvampire13 2 года назад +3

    It seems the lines have always been blurred on what a Goth is, but one thing is true: we do lurk around cemeteries a lot.

  • @rafaelparra1260
    @rafaelparra1260 Год назад +1

    Ha llovido mucho ya

  • @chrismayer3919
    @chrismayer3919 Год назад +4

    Being Goth myself, I’m hip!

  • @samanthacrow7021
    @samanthacrow7021 Год назад +2

    oooooooooooh dave

  • @NiKOliDANBURSKi
    @NiKOliDANBURSKi Год назад +1

    The irony of "their day is coming" 😄

  • @dangercat9188
    @dangercat9188 2 года назад +12

    I love gothic culture. What's ironic is that I'm a catholic and although I do pray and stuff, I'm not extremely religious so I'm able to balance my religion along with my love for gothic culture lol. 🖤

    • @saulbateman5403
      @saulbateman5403 Год назад +11

      I would actually describe the atmosphere and aesthetic of the catholic religion as the epitome of gothic. The architecture of a cathedral, for example, the choir etc

    • @alexisvillanueva2437
      @alexisvillanueva2437 Год назад +1

      Truth brother im sick of hearing people who belong in a music scene that dosen't know or understands what the music represent even do its obvious cheers...

  • @Deedee-ee1sg
    @Deedee-ee1sg Год назад +1

    Ooh, I do luv a good GOTH!

  • @roxannablack666
    @roxannablack666 Год назад +2

    This is literally a time machine. It looks like it could have been filmed present day. 🦇🦇🦇

  • @ctcurry1777
    @ctcurry1777 2 года назад +3

    Boys don't cry

  • @euchrideucrow1970
    @euchrideucrow1970 2 года назад +3

    Weird… I thought it was all over by 87… Marc had left his Mambas, the Love Cats had pooped in your shoe, Siouxsie had chopped her hair down and the Sisters had gotten lost in their own dry ice.

    • @PhoenixOne
      @PhoenixOne Год назад +1

      Nah, it limped on for about 5 more years, before Cybergoth took over. Never gonna be as good as it was then, Sweet spot!

    • @euchrideucrow1970
      @euchrideucrow1970 Год назад

      @@PhoenixOne I have to say that whilst I no longer look (very) goth, my heart is forever goth... goth unto death? hahahahaha

  • @neonarcade3562
    @neonarcade3562 Год назад

    Quite interesting.

  • @phoebsc5993
    @phoebsc5993 2 года назад +1

    I love it )

  • @NIGHTGUYRYAN
    @NIGHTGUYRYAN Год назад +4

    i just love goths. go for it you spooky boys and girls

  • @garycollingwood4002
    @garycollingwood4002 Год назад

    " OH MY GOD "...

  • @fearlessskrull8286
    @fearlessskrull8286 2 года назад +7

    So.... You're showing me that there's still hope for us balding goths? Praise the Dark One, indeed!!

    • @Proxyy7
      @Proxyy7 2 года назад +1

      Oh definitely, especially in the cities where the industrial scene and goth scenes amalgamated, bald heads abound

    • @PhoenixOne
      @PhoenixOne Год назад +1

      @@Proxyy7 Oi I still have my hair, you cheeky git!

    • @Proxyy7
      @Proxyy7 Год назад +1

      @@PhoenixOne Hey, it's not my fault half of the elder goths look like Nosferatu now, willingly or not

    • @layditms2
      @layditms2 Год назад

      @@Proxyy7 '' elder ''
      lol

  • @kamandi1362
    @kamandi1362 2 года назад +1

    Anyone know the name of the "real" vampire at 1:44? he looks familiar.

    • @PhoenixOne
      @PhoenixOne Год назад +1

      That was Wilf, sadly my friend is no longer with us

  • @DJJezzebella
    @DJJezzebella Год назад +2

    See at first I thought this was a comedy segment because of the way it was so dramatically cheesy. When we used to drink and dress-up which was pretty much every weeknight, that's going to ship we used to joke about when there weren't club nights! When I first started going to goth clubs way back in BC (Before Computers) when I wasn't even old enough to be getting in I'll tell you that, we dressed up to the nines and did our black-and-white photos in the most beautiful and cinematic looking graveyards we could find. However we never lost our sense of humor. And in our minds we were hearing all that cheesy ridiculous music, coffins creaking when they opened up, while faking British accents picturing dramatic smoke machines that weren't there. You feel me right? The journalists who did this piece kept referring to goths as "Gothics", which I'm pretty sure is not proper English, but whatever. Perhaps this was just so Grand spanking new to her attention that she really was thrown off a bit? However that really doesn't explain the one guy when she asked him if he thought of himself again as "a Gothic" and he said, "No, I'm a vampire! You know vampire? Hisssss!" I thought for sure he had to be kidding?! Vampires I am quite sure are fictional creatures. Energy vampires, well, that's a different story. Sorry Ann Rice fans. Twilight Twinks? Oh you guys got a lot of therapy in front of you kids. I'm not going to touch that one. But then Davey Vanian was right on the money. What a great person to represent us like that? It's people like him that made me sign up for the scene in the first place and dedicate my entire life to it. I used to promote my own clubs, help other promoters and DJs who would be starting up their own clubs, and was proud to be DJ Jezzebella in the San Francisco goth scene for well over 25 years. This piece is very conflicting. However I am really hoping to at least talk to Davey Vanian tonight at the Belasco Theater since The Damned is playing in about an hour or two. Too bad my Phantasmagoria pressed white vinyl record limited edition that they only released less than 1000 of I think? Maybe 500 of? Too bad it's no longer in my possession! 'But maybe Davey's soul will be after dark!! Mooo-wahh-ha-ha!! That truly would be Grimly Fiendish! Mooo-wahh-ha-ha!!!'
    Try to picture that last quote in a cheesy Transylvanian dramatic vampire voice, k? " Now you feel me on why I thought it was it was a comedy?

    • @DJJezzebella
      @DJJezzebella Год назад

      Mission accomplished. He's funny, he's nice, he's got a great sense of humor, and he's a very good listener actually! Didn't even know that he was married to Patricia Morrison (from Sisters of Mercy amongst other endeavors) She's another one of my phrickin' heroes! I saw the pretty lady in this piece listed as Mrs. Vanian, and all I could think was gosh she looks so much like Patricia Morrison! Huh? I guess everybody in England around that time was just pretty and look like her. Doy. It doesn't just look like her it is her. I'm fired.

  • @taty5433
    @taty5433 8 месяцев назад

    Hahahaha ha sorry but I can't with 1 40 moment😂🤣

  • @NullStaticVoid
    @NullStaticVoid Год назад +1

    odd that they don;t feature any known bands of the subculture.
    I suppose they wanted to avoid licensing?
    But in 87 copyright laws were still pretty lax.
    They could have got away with a few snippets of Siouxsie, Bauhaus, Christian Death etc.
    But to be honest, I think this was just part of your usual sensationalism of the time.
    I remember a lot of similar stories on US TV about punk rockers.
    Usually the typical pearl clutching about a society in decline.

  • @rosieHolliday5887
    @rosieHolliday5887 Год назад

    Cool

  • @adinocc2042
    @adinocc2042 8 месяцев назад

    Someone should show this video to "Gothic" KingCobraJFS.

  • @matthewbeumer3168
    @matthewbeumer3168 2 года назад +10

    There were great unique bands that influenced Goth Siouxsie and the Banshees Bauhaus The Birthday Party Joy Division and The Cure they filrted with dark imagery and subversive subtext in their lyrics and music.What came after was crap!

    • @hazelwray4184
      @hazelwray4184 Год назад +1

      I agree. Those bands had a broader frame of reference.

  • @hansbambach4854
    @hansbambach4854 Год назад

    Was the sisters of mercy not a 80s gothic rock band

    • @QuadMochaMatti
      @QuadMochaMatti 15 дней назад

      Don't let Andrew hear you say that SOM was goth. If you know what's best for you, you won't ever describe him personally as one, either😆.

  • @edg6893
    @edg6893 Год назад

    song name?

  • @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063
    @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063 Год назад

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @morticialilas3229
    @morticialilas3229 Год назад

    Im still a still cold vampiress. Lavina Lilas,1985 only legal hidden former wife of Sebastian Bach@Skid Row.

  • @jociejara5834
    @jociejara5834 Год назад

    I’ve seen this video on Facebook from the BBC archives of a woman in the 80s getting a goth makeup. I can’t find it but it’s exactly what you would be looking for

  • @thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010

  • @Steve-bo6ht
    @Steve-bo6ht 2 года назад +1

    Richmond should have stayed in his room 😤

  • @MAKEDUMBSTUFF
    @MAKEDUMBSTUFF Год назад

    what's the band at 3:20 ?

    • @MAKEDUMBSTUFF
      @MAKEDUMBSTUFF Год назад

      The Damned or not?

    • @leoadr
      @leoadr Год назад +1

      I think The Marionettes.

    • @MAKEDUMBSTUFF
      @MAKEDUMBSTUFF Год назад +1

      @@leoadr Wow, cool. Thanks

    • @leoadr
      @leoadr Год назад +1

      @@MAKEDUMBSTUFF The song is Screaming Master.

    • @MAKEDUMBSTUFF
      @MAKEDUMBSTUFF Год назад +1

      @@leoadr 🤝😉

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 Год назад +1

    OMG This is hilarious ! LoL
    "Its links with black magic" 🤣

  • @Covencraft
    @Covencraft 2 года назад +3

    vampires and goth are different....

  • @BeatUpRecordsCDs
    @BeatUpRecordsCDs Год назад

    Sisters of mercy is my favourite band

  • @TaylorDelRey
    @TaylorDelRey 2 года назад

    Jesus Christ, it's Jerry Only.

  • @itsagayworldnotflat7101
    @itsagayworldnotflat7101 2 года назад +5

    1087! It was over by then nobody would ever call themselves goth! A few months later acid house smiley face and ecstasy meant this lot were so off the mark

  • @motorheadrodriguez2060
    @motorheadrodriguez2060 Год назад +1

    Radio Werewolf.......

  • @benjaminclasper9355
    @benjaminclasper9355 Год назад

    I think it’s over exaggerated really with the word goths and really just this video making them seem more darker with the man dressed up as Dracula as if goths rise from the dead every night when that’s not the case I think really and that they’re not trying to be scary or horrific and that’s just the way they choose to dress and the way they feel about themselves and what they believe in.

  • @EduardoGonzalez-mh3qk
    @EduardoGonzalez-mh3qk Год назад

    🌹🕯️⚕️🕯️🌹Beautiful

  • @68marconi
    @68marconi 2 года назад +3

    ♫ Old Mcdonald was a goth
    E I E M O ♫

  • @pch2230
    @pch2230 2 года назад +1

    A bit old hat by 1987.

  • @pressureworks
    @pressureworks 2 года назад +2

    I can see Graham Chapman saying stop it, thats enough this is getting far to silly, You there!! put down the microphone, and turn off that camera. Get those silly wigs and costumes off.

  • @ilovegot7754
    @ilovegot7754 Год назад +1

    Goths are basically needs with an edge

  • @Gothicguatemalan
    @Gothicguatemalan 5 месяцев назад

    Hey guys who was recording me?! 🧛🏼🧛🏻‍♀️

  • @Band_Aid_Man_
    @Band_Aid_Man_ 2 года назад +1

    goth dammit!

  • @Dark_Harmony
    @Dark_Harmony Год назад

    Pfff~Hahahahahahaaaah! *snort* Oh my goth, I needed that. 🦇🦇🦇

  • @makeamericakateagain
    @makeamericakateagain 2 года назад +4

    Propaganda Magazine by Fred H. Berger was founded in 1982. 5 years prior to this. 🕸🕸🕸

  • @dylanakent
    @dylanakent 2 года назад

    Picking curious fruit 💀

  • @Tierrechtsaktivist
    @Tierrechtsaktivist 2 года назад

    🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🦇

  • @benjaminclasper9355
    @benjaminclasper9355 Год назад

    Everyone should be free and be allowed to be who they are and decide for themselves how they like to look and wear.

  • @dovelugosi
    @dovelugosi Год назад

    Quand le mec vit mal sa calvitiiiiiiiie

  • @ZeldasMask
    @ZeldasMask 10 месяцев назад +4

    Guy at 3:51 was hot

  • @KidneyMush
    @KidneyMush 2 года назад

    Trying be a ghost, much more fun

  • @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063
    @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063 Год назад

    Yeah A i never liked the sun

    • @layditms2
      @layditms2 Год назад

      yeah Because Pony Plush, Anime and Gaming is so Goth