Backyard Work: Routing underground wiring to backyard
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2020
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Good video. Keep in mind that it's not recommended to run the low voltage (cat 5) in the same conduit and if it is terminating in the same box, then you must have a barrier between the low and high voltage to be code.
Good video of all the mistakes an amature can make installing an outside recepticle. Lots of lessons here.
No shortage of code violations. Hopefully no people get hurt or property damaged in the future. Scary how people think just because it works it must be safe.
OMG - a better title would have been "How To Nullify Your Homeowner's Insurance With DIY Backyard Wiring".
An appliance extension cord for supplying line power, with exposed electrical connections - seriously? I guess at least it was an appliance cord and not a typical orange light duty extension cord. :)
@@soag87 Ha ha he supposed terminate the wires in the box that power is coming from. A Mickey Mouse job.
Codes are merely suggestions 🤷♂️
😂bro
UF wire inside PVC conduit 🙂
Talk about being safe to another level 🤣🤣
Careful with the open splice in the crawl space . At the very least the splice should have been made in an electrical box .
Thank you very much for making this video! Seriously. The most informative parts were all of the mistakes you made and all of the things you did wrong. And the comments that told me how to do it properly. It helped me when I ran my Underground Feeders. Thanks
I am glad it helped out :)
I just run an extension cord out the window and connect the lights under a bucket. Code enough for me
I like to go 24 inches on everything including water it’s better to be deeper than not enough depth. I even put my pex water line in conduit to keep from moles to chew on the pex
A holesaw is NOT designed to drill through any masonry surface, you need to use to hammer drill with a masonry drill bit
He’s not even using the right bit lol “it took me a long time” to rubbing on cement with metal bit
Super helpful! Thanks so much. This will save me some headaches for my backyard project in the future.
I'm pretty sure that's not code.
the wire should only fill 53% of the conduit...you actually should have gone with large conduit
Thanks for sharing. Electricians will tell you what you did wrong. For the plug part, you should place the the connections in a box, or use a plug specifically made to replace a bad or missing plug.
Your transition to the box needed a bell sleeve, you’re hot should have been black. You should have had a nut or electrical tape instead of clipping the wire, you don’t mix data with electrical raceways, last, but not least, you had underground feeder cable, you could have just dug a tad more and not needed the conduit raceway/conduit. Also, you’re conduit looked a little too small. But hey, it works!
You should of used the black as the hot .
Pretty standard on almost all wiring
In a sane world, red really should be hot..always. ie. Red HOT... Why is it not?
@@wadevid Especially since in 12v black is ground and red is positive.
@@regibson23 exactly! I don't know why that didn't translate into the normal AC electrical world. So confusing for no reason!
@@wadevid I don't know why. Perhaps red was more expensive or harder to make a hundred years ago when the colors were selected? Red is typically used for the alternate hot path on three-way switches; they call it a "traveler."
You should check what your local codes say about how deep to bury electrical pvc below grade. Yours looks like a few inches. Most codes say 18" below grade. Best check this out.
Thank you for your demonstration actually I am at the moment installing a lamp post in my backyard very similar to your job that you did. But I had not thought of installing a GFI with 3 outlets. This way I can add future lights that I want to hang on my fence. Good job. Thank you
The "appliance" replacement cords are expensive.
- I simply by a new extension cord.
- Cut to the exact length
- Use the leftover female cord by adding a new male and have an extension cord
A diamond cup saw (used for tiles) would have made drilling through the mortar and stone easier.
This video really was tremendously helpful - from what to buy (made it easy) to tips and how-to's on exactly what I was having a hard time figuring out. Thank you very much for spending the time to make this quality video! Super appreciated!!!
Looking at the prices for PVC conduit vs today is sad.
The main issue I see in this is inadequate depth of the trench. The top of the conduit or wire needs at least 18" depth below grade (24" if it goes under a road). Here in Canada, around that wire you need sand to protect from damage by rocks, and above that you need a plank of treated 2X6, then above that a plastic warning strip "underground wiring" to warn anybody who might be digging to stop. The conduit (sch 80 in the US, with bell fittings) is only needed for mechanical protection of UF cable in the short span where the wire leaves that 18" level. I would have used an LB fitting or box for entry to the house, allowing the conduit to neatly follow the concrete down and not represent a trip or damage hazard. Get it inspected and glaring errors will be avoided.
Also he didn't ground the box, he ran the ground from the UF cable directly to the GFCI bypassing the box. Also he didn't adhere to 110.12 "Electrical equipment shall be installed in a neat and workmanlike manner" obviously he doesn't own a level.
Hey, I'm also in canada, i want to run power to an outlet in a shed to be used once a week for a light and charger. I'll contact an expert but since you seem knowledgeable i was wondering if you could pick out any obvious faults in my plan. I'm thinking about running an extension cord made using 12 guage direct burial UL cable and outdoor rated plug ends from a gfci outlet on my house to an outdoor rv 120v inlet on the shed. Then I would wire up an outlet inside the shed from the other side of the rv inlet. The cable would just sit above ground but I'm thinking since it's used infrequently and the cable can be disconnected from both ends it would not be considered a permanent installation. I'm the only one on the property so no one will be digging without knowledge of the cable and it is gfci protected in some sort of unforeseen accident did occur.
@@maxeddis1138 You can do that legally with an extension cord run along the ground, provided it remains visible the whole way, is not buried, is not subject to abuse, and not concealed behind walls. Anything else requires a permit, different wire, conduit above 18" below ground, and a long list of things to avoid. In Alberta I found inspectors approachable, helpful, and willing to coach you a little to increase your chance of success. In BC I found the opposite. They don't want to talk to you at all until the inspection, they require a form that asks very detailed questions about panel capacity and use. I believe that IQ test form is required so they weed out anybody who hasn't spent hundreds of hours combing over the Canadian code book. Unfortunately it also means that many BC homes have been mutilated by guys who know nothing and don't get inspection, leaving dangerous errors exposed for decades.
@@spelunkerdinciteful, thanks a lot for sharing!
Thanks for posting this. I also appreciate the comments pointing out things that weren't quite right, though some could have been nicer about it.
Lots of people pointed out that you should have used black instead of red. Yes, that's standard, though in a 3-way switch, the red can also be hot, so it's not horrible. My thought was to wire up two outlets, one with red and white, and the other with black and white, and then put the red through a switch on the inside, so one outlet is switched.
I've seen some people say 12" for the wire, others 18". I see another video saying 24" without conduit, 12" for PVC, and 6" for metal conduit. It sounds like you won't go wrong with 24". Think about where someone might run sprinkler pipes or if you have underground cable/internet lines. I haven't priced it, but my guess is the direct-bury wire is still cheaper than using conduit.
Another video asserts that direct-bury wire needs to be GFCI protected, so you need to put a GFCI outlet in or on the house before sending the wire underground (which also means you don't need a second GFCI outlet at the end). I can't verify the code requirement, but that certainly sounds like a good idea. You can never have enough outlets anyway.
You can not use UF for a pool pump. It has to have a insulated ground, not bare like UF
Why wouldn't you just attach it to the existing fence?
I know you finished this up quite a while ago, but you really should have used BLACK instead of the red wire... That said, thanks for the video!
Why would that make a difference?
@@jrod16sports standardization
Thank for the video. Great job. One suggestion is to use a water spray bottle on the hole bits. This prevents overheating which quickly dull the teeth. It also make the job five times faster. I have bits I have used a dozen times in concrete.
He used the wrong holesaw..theres one u can buy to drill on concrete/stone...
On the bright side, now in 2023, 2 years after this video was released you can still get the same brand wire from Home Depot for the same price! But unfortunately, it's only 100 ft. 😭
So thorough, thanks for the great video.
Was watching this on my TV and logged in just to check the comments as soon as he cut the black wire. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Black to brass will save your a$$.
While the the trench is still open you may want consider schedule 40 PVC vs that corrugated pipe. Less likely to clog over time.
Good luck and thanks for sharing.
actually that congregated, self cleaning due to the ridges
Too small PVC if ever have to pul and replace, if cannot pull after pipe installed then too small, also those turns not great underground, should use a heat box and put a long continuous sweep for pulling, no couplings only bell ends couplings can pull part underground. Also need to use slip sleeve when transition from underground to panels/boxes on any structure
Looks a little shallow out at the recepticle, eh? Pretty sure its still a minimum 16" below grade for PVC or direct burial. At the house you probably could have gone with LB condolets instead of the long radius 90s out of the wall for a clean, well supported install.
18 inches for packing and 24 inches for direct burial per NEC.
Shouldn't run Low voltage wire (Ethernet) with high voltage ( Receptacles) in the same conduit/box as it can interfere with the Low voltage items like internet performance. Also noticed the conduit was too small for the wires ran and you shouldn't of cut The black wire to nothing should of just kept it long and put a wire nut over it for any future changes in the use. not the worst electrical video I've seen but still could use some stuff fixed.
great job pointing out all the deficiencies that he already noted.
You can heat up those angle pipes to get a little more angle out of them with a heat gun.
I would have left the spare hot ( black or red) longer in the box. You could have used it down the road if needed. Otherwise, solid job. Maybe put the Ethernet in a separate box would me my only other suggestion
It is not bad to have the extra wire ran for the future if you want too switch a light in your house to the outside
I'm pretty sure the conduit can only be filled to 60% total area per code.
should you use something for flexible than pcv from the house out?
Yes Black hot!
There is nothing good to comment on, your video should be banned it's all wrong sorry but your work is horrendous.
Completely wrong sir. That pvc coming out of the house like that will never last. The 2x4 in the ground is the worst idea yet, dont be such a cheapskate and do it the right way. Please don't follow this video people.
I think he did a good job. My Mexican cousins would have just buried an orange extension cord & and called it a job well done😂
Underground => PVC
OUT-Uderground => EMT Metal
At least dig 1 feet Underground.
@@paulsosa1872🤣🤣 I didn't this time
Underground wire doesn’t have to have piping.
I think could be a better idea to put the plug box in the post about 3 feet tall more practical for better work with extension cords
thanks for the video, I'm about to try a similar installation and was wondering, did you glue the various pvc pipe fittings together or you just pushed them together?
Yes you should glue them. You want to avoid and water seepage into the conduit.
This is "WHY" Electricians get paid for their skill set -" EXPERIENCED"
-RED is typically a switch leg, so if you don't have a switch leg "Black wire is king for power.. and the tape around the GFCI is major points
No, it’s because others are to scared of electricity and shy away from it. He did ok for a newbie DIY.
What do you think the odds are that his deficiencies will actually cause a problem? I realize that working with electricity and your home is dangerous, but codes tend to have a huge (some would say excessive) safety margin. Things can always be safer than they are, and even safer than codes.
BTW, I have yet to have a home inspection done where the inspector didn't note code deficiencies by the Electrician who wired the house when new.
Burried cables can become dangerous if not burried at the depth and marked with warnings that a cable is buried in that path.
@@soundcityintl good point!!!
Did you need permit to do all that digging and to bury the wire? Thanks.
Lmao dude you stripped it back like 10ft for the outlet
Question. If I have a 2 inch schedule 40 but I want them to go to two different destinations. What type of underground splitter one can use to split them underground
You don't. You run a new pipe.
You are not a professional not even close your feed coming out of your house is wrong, your burial depth is wrong yes its legal to use 2x4 to mount your bell box , but you should have used pressure treated wood I can see your wood 2x4 is rocking back and forth not good, and your struggling with your install you lack fluidity and refined workmanship. You wearing a suit at the beginning of your video,
How do you cover it on the ground .
The 4-Wire cable that is double insulated is for submersible well pumps.
Why not use a treated 2x4 , that’s going to rot , a treated 4x4 would be better yet
This hookup looks like a fire hazard. 1. No jacketed wire in a conduit, this will cause a heat build up. That goes for Romex wire also. 2. Conduit improper depth. 3. Stranded wire to hardwire improperly connected in wire nuts. You have both wires side by side with stranded wire a little ahead of the solid wire, than use the proper gage wire nut. In the way they are connected in this video, the stranded wire could come lose. Also a red wire nut isn’t used to designate a hot wire. Wire nuts are color coded for wire thickness. This wiring set up could burn your house down. Terrible advice on setting up an outside connection for Christmas lights. This video is like watching “Christmas Vacation” with Chevy Chase.
Tell me your not an electrician without telling me your not an electrician 😏
Can someone please up my confusion? What is the correct depth for UF cable? A "This Old House" episode suggests 12" but I've read on many youtube video comments that at least 18" is required for code. Help. I'll dig the extra 6 inches but I don't want to.
Depends on frost lines .
And materials that you use.
Plastic pvc compared to metal etc...
Burry it as far as possible within reason.
And always use a slightly bigger pipe because you might be digging again in the future otherwise.
But direct burial is usually 24 inches because of the unprotected wire sheath
@@luvdady thanks .. curious why reputable "this old house" very clearly states 12" ok with cetain UF cable?
@@danstvguy probably if they used concrete?
But it could be a variety of things 🤔 lol building codes are strange
24in for UF cable no conduit
18inches for pvc schedule 80
6 inches for rigid conduit (not emt which is not to be buried)
I know this is old, but the answer is 12 inches per code. NEC 300.5 (T) Column 4 - Resi circuits 120 or less with GFI protection and a 20A OCPD.
I thought Romex can’t be used inside conduits
Not true, but it makes it hard to pull wires through in the future.
Is that 18in
You should never switch colors. Red is a switch leg black is hot white is neutral and green or copper is ground!! Period!!!
Black is always Hot.. that confused me as I would think it would be a 'dead' or ground.. but no it's the Hot lol.. then there is a ground and a neutral.. WHAAT !? I get what a ground does but what the heck is the neutral and what is it for.. just to look pretty I suppose. hahaha. The only thing I Must remember is the Black wire will knock you for a loop so stay away from that one.. lol
R810
So many code violations done in this video by clearly a untrained person
Just because it works doesn't mean it's done right
So very dangerous what he did in this video
This is a classic case of a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing
Worst of all people are watching this trying to learn and all they are doing is putting you home and family at risk
Video is full of violations my man
Should glue your pipe
Is that wire rated for conduit??
yes, infact it does not need a conduit at all. it is called Underground Feeder (UF) and it can be buried without any conduit
UF-B is a direct burial and can be put in a conduit of needed. The only reason it is not suggested is because it can be a pain to fish through conduit making repairs difficult (hence possible code issue).
At first I was confused regarding why wire with extra sheathing should not be used for a long run inside conduit. Then I thought back about how wire disperses heat. Conduit is required to not exceed the 40% fill rule, and if the necessary air space is taken up by plastic sheathing, you need larger conduit. Most inspectors will allow a short ~4 foot run for protection, such as coming out of the ground where sch 80 conduit is required for mechanical protection in the US (sch 40 with added mechanical protection OK in Canada).
did he call code inspectors thugs
Everything is done wrong.
does anybody ever just show how to do underground wiring without telling the life story
Well his wife is very supportive so that's a good thing
She’s doesn’t know what’s going on and think he’s the best electrician ever until someone got electrocuted in his basement
@@Derpherppington no I don't think anyone has been electrocuted.
He means well
You could have used both red and black wires on two circuits. Red on one and black on the other breaker
Isn't black the hot wire on homes? ( Opposite of cars)
You can use black, red, blue for low voltage and orange, yellow, brown for high voltage.
Wouldn’t you need a neutral for the other wire/breaker @matthew
Don't listen or copy anything of what this guy did. This install was ugly as sin and there were lots of glaring mistakes. Yes, the light worked but it's not proof of anything. Open splice, improperly secured device box, improper box choice, securing the conduit rather than the box itself (which is not a replacement), wrong size conduit (You didn't even need conduit, but I understand wanting it for protection), etc., are all examples of a what you should not be doing.
Why are there so many negative reviews? Just “Arm chair quarterbacks” who rely on technicalities??
Usually i agree with this comment, but electricity is very dangerous and should be up to code.
Rules meant to be broken.
But if you have no clue what you doing, stick to the code.
This is terrible electrical work done completely wrong and not safe. This is how fires start. Hire a local electrician to make to safe.
matybe the other guy wasn’t sure but I am. It’s not to code and there is so much wrong here….
Too amateur. Use heat shrink tube to replace tape. What not use a plug at the end?
😂😂😂😂
for xmas lights..lol
DO NOT DO THIS FOLKS unless you want to kill your children, pets, or gardener.. this was done all kinds of wrong. 🤠👎
You should really take this video down. When someone kills themselves from inadequate depth of conduit, and other code violations, they will use this video to sue you. I’m being serious.
This is not how to video. This is strictly for entertainment only.
He tells his life story. He is not telling you that you must follow his advice.
BS. Many people will copy his mistakes.
Go somewhere with your BS!!!
BYE HOMIE homie👋 🖕🫵
I doubt anyone would get hurt from 110 and he’s by the fence line so no equipment can snag on conduit I always say dig in winter time the ground is soft
Can I use schedule 40 pvc from main panel to jacuzzi disconnect 20 feet away ? And the wire is 8 guage thhn.