PART 2: Rich Driver vs Poor Driver, Why I no longer drive above 58mph (High vs Low Fuel Efficiency)
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- Опубликовано: 26 май 2021
- This is the follow-up episode to our popular rich driver vs poor driver video!
In this video, we will reveal the identity of the poor driver in the last episode, and follow the steps that he's taken to increase his fuel efficiency and earnings. The driver has increased his fuel efficiency from 5.5 to a record of 9.9 mpg! Now he's averaging 8.1 mpg and receiving more income as a result.
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It’s great to see that a owner really does care about their drivers, very rare in today’s business
Cares? If these guys are both company drivers, then one guy is getting penalized for fuel consumption. They have to be owners, because identical pay, mileage and equipment would not affect pay as a company driver unless one guy is getting penalized.
Dude is scam. If a company offers lease and controll the equipment. So a company driver. What's the difference?
@@mat209309 well said
I used to drive slow like that. There are many variables that have to be taken into consideration. I have a dedicated route where I cover 4200 miles. If I can make that loop in 6 days of driving (70 hours) including my pretrip, load, post trip, delivery and fuel stops, I can do my 34 hour reset on the 7th day. I can make this loop week after week. As a matter of fact, I am on my 8th consecutive loop right now. I get an unbelievable paycheck on the same day of each week. If I drove slow on this loop, it would take alot more time so I wouldnt get a weekly paycheck. In the long run, it would cost me alot of money. I get a great deal of pleasure running at a higher speed where I can pull away from the groups of trucks and cars and run alone. Everytime I slow my pace, I get caught up in the groups that keep speeding up and slowing down and passing, only to be passed by another inconsistent truck. That's unsafe and can be stressful. When we had paper logs, I would drive slow and adjust my paperwork three times daily such that I could make the miles. With electronic logs, I have 11 hours to make my daily miles. That means I am pretty much forced to drive as fast as the speed limit will allow me to.
I saw a Midland truck a week ago completely mangled at mile 169 northbound on I-95 just south of Bangor, Maine...so much for that governed speed...I run 70mph on I-95 loaded or empty (happens to be where my cruise tops out) I pass those company drivers all the time...they back up traffic big time.
This is why the government should have more flexibility in the hours of service because you drive slow it will take you more time to cover a trip .
It ain't the fast trucks, it is the drivers! Lack of training. Push for a 2 year trade school program like all of the other trades. Mechanics, plumbers, electricians... 2 years. Trucking, 2 weeks.
This is exactly it. I don't know how these guys get the loads done. It's painful to hear that he does 58 mph. What freight is he running. The big deal with running fast is turning loads, turning hot loads. We're limited on hours in the day... how does running 120 miles less per day (on long routes) make you more money when you're paid for a mile based job...???
It's always been a balancing act. Can I make more on the bonus trip to counter the loss on fuel and ultimately earn more in the same amount of time.
Seems like elevation change on the actual route is a major factor. Sounds like a dynamic governor may have a market niche. Governors should have a climbing selection.....climbing is where you get passed and lose time. If a driver can climb out of groups ,a balance could be met between the 2.(speaking with what I think is reliable data from an old friend who was a trucker for years)..mathematically its possible,....just requires the right amount of data. I spent years perfecting the efficiency of a similar business. Ive moved into trucking and would live to soend time analyzing data and tweaking the operations of ANY company willing to share the data. Hunting efficiency in logistics is a passion of mine. For me this is a fun problem to solve, the variables in the data and the many routes and trucks would make this so much fun.
Great comparison and good for the driver I'm glad to see his progress, excellent video again guys!
If you wanna slow drivers down, Pay hourly! If no idling is allowed, you better be providing a generator on the truck.
I remember when trucks did not have A/C or a bunk heater. No Def iether. I never owned a refrigerator iether. Gallon of fuel per hour to keep a bologna sandwich cold? You could get a T.A. steak dinner every night and still have change. Wear out the engine for living soft.
@@smokingjoe9864 Lmao 🤣 @bologna sandwich 🥪
@@sstevocamaro yup, a bologna sandwich, they spent all their steak money on idle fuel. 11 gallons a day idling easy. 30 bucks a day.
They have an APU so there is no need to idle over-night
@@ThomasAnselmi1337 what runs an apu? Exactly.
As long as you and your drivers drive in the right lane only, idc what speed you're governed to...
Our taxes pay for more of the roads than your miserable contribution.
Do you like to eat?
We have your food.
Do you like your clothes?
Do you like your car?
Do you like EVERYTHING you own?
You're welcome.
Pay attention and stay out of our way.
You guys are great,
An average person never cares about the money their driver is taking home,
Because frankly speaking, the mpg of owner operator will not affect the company's income, so everybody don't care.
But you earned my respect man, you used your time for him, only so that he could earn more🙂.
You knew that Kely's earning won't affect your earning in any way, but then also you helped him.
By looking at people like you, i can assure that the humanity is still alive.
I found that 60mph is a good combination of time and fuel for our over the road hauls, with a series 60 Detroit at 500HP
Four Cascadias with 455/1750, direct drive 10-speeds, 2.54 finals, 455/R22.5 tires. Average fuel economy castrated to 63 Mph 8.1 MPG with the last truck turned up to 67 8.5 MPG. I had to drop gear up grades, especially on I-80 in PA and it hurt my ecconomy.
I have a 16 Cascadia with 505/1750, direct drive DT12, 2.54 finals and 11R22.5 tires. I get 7.78 MPG in this truck. Why? The 2.54 ring and pinions is too short to run the RPMs with the increase in boost and fuel flow. If I had 2.38 gears and low profile tires I'd most likely run lower intake and exhaust manifold temps and better flow. If you pull 80 thousand or less you don't really need more than 455 HP but you do need the torque and you need your drivetrain to run in the torque band.
What's not being said is how much longer the driver has to spend driving per week, how irritated traffic becomes when these super slow governed trucks try to pass each other, and how unsafe the roads become from people becoming aggressive or hostile because of the previous point. All anyone cares about anymore is money, they don't care about anything else, and this overseer micro-managing stuff just proves the point.
How much longer driving per week... is dictated to all by HOS... everybody gets the same 11 hours per day. Speed and it might land you earlier each day, a little... you MIGHT catch an early door or a spot... but driving faster comes with its own bag of stresses (and safety issues).
I'm in the slow camp, and I don't set my speed based on other peoples moods nor opinions (not yours, talking about other cars). A**hole drivers are gonna be a**holes... so, speeding up for them at the expense of MY expen$e and safety... I'm in the slow camp.
And yes, it is about money in business. What I got out of the 2 videos here... I noticed he wasn't harping about safety... just money. Fortunately for us, safety and money happen to overlap in this case. For company drivers, speed might make them a little more money, but again, this would come at the expense of a lost fuel bonus and safety.
As for micromanaging... that goes away when a driver buys his own truck. Safe to say... MOST OO's start with a company, get their experience (and take their micromanagement and learn from it) and then go OO.
@@frodrickfronkensteen9241Very well put I started at Crete/ Shaffer Shaffer side now I’m a OO with Shaffer an I watch our driver app literally every day an kept track of my miles an idle times an if you try you can achieve idle times of 10-15% sometimes less an while I’m using cruse the instant will constantly tell you between 3.5-5.5 mpg on a long pull to 7.5-295 mpg usually 295 mpg when you go down hill with the engine brake on but yes keeping your foot out of it an shutting the truck off as much as tolerable an try using opti idle if you don’t have a apu I don’t have a apu but do what you can to save fuel an be nice to your equipment to avoid some repairs too an have a good day😁👍
@@frodrickfronkensteen9241 nope not everyone gets the same 11 hours...I can run 14 hours and I'll put on 2500 miles or more in 5 days...I run the speed limit (70mph) on the Interstate and up to 55mph on the local roads...I also don't run a truck with a turned down engine I've got 600 horses under the hood.
Those fast trucks pass me about 3x a day, cause I don't stop and they do.
@@frodrickfronkensteen9241 do you come thru Florida much? We have certain toll roads that FHP sit on and if you're doing 58mph, be prepared to get some tickets.
Most drivers are paid by the mile and fuel economy is not a compensated factor. Drive slower and you'll work longer for the same pay.
Great video. I started trucking in the 80’s when it was hammer down all the time and rolling black smoke when you were taking off. Lol different world now. 😊
I'm the mechanic for a small company out of the Detroit area. I set our trucks to 65mph on foot and 68mph on cruise. The drivers went crying to the owner. I tried to explain to the owner that the drivers have no need to be driving 70+ mph (we run 160,000 pounds gross). And that since he pays for fuel it would be good for him all the way around. But he made me turn them up
They really just need to lower the speed limits in the United States for trucks. As of right now, its hazardous to have some trucks only doing 58 to 60 while others are running at 80 plus. I'm a company driver in a 65 mph truck, I nearly get rear ended frequently and passed constantly, tying up traffic for everyone.
Very nice to see a business owner giving a damn. Really enjoy Kalis thought process. Great info. Thanks
9.9 mpg in one week = he paid for one fill up with his own cash lol
??? Fuel always comes out of his own cash/pocket.
@@killer2600 you didn't get it. he added fuel that he didn't log. either by paying cash. or adding fuel from another supply. cause 9.9 out of a rig is almost impossible.
@@oregonfordguy9812 If you were to calculate fuel economy off of fuel receipts that would be a plausible scenario. But in modern times fuel economy is taken directly from the truck's computer and sent to the company over the electronic log/tracking system in the truck.
Your not really supposed to idle these new trucks anyway
@@chrisspeer3257 if no apu is provided, there is no other option
30 percent drop In idle time is the biggest part speed Has litte to do with it
Aerodynamics and physics - how do they work 🤔
@@Mr_Clean idling burns fuel...it also depends on where you're running, are you pulling lots of hills, are you running a nerfed engine or one that's turned up (nerfed engines have to work harder in the hills btw), what's your GVW etc...
There's a lot of variables though in the end
Once again nice content man !!! I'm preparing myself to make my CDL and I really want to buy my truck. Fuel seems to be a big part of the cake so I need to know numbers to make a great plan 🤘
Oh shit, fancy seeing you here! lol I watch your channel, and I’m also playing ATS religiously and hoping to get my CDL soon 🤙
@@GeoffPeterson33 hey Geoff !! It's a small world ✌🏼😎 Thanks for watching my channel 🔥 Feel free to comment my video I didn't see you a lot 😜 And let me know when you're going to start your CDL 🤘🏼
I get 7.2 mpg on my 2007 freightliner Columbia it set at 455hp and i drive 73, 74 and make an extra load a week, i never use cruise control because it doesn’t work, and i idle because i haven’t fixed my apu 😅. Oh and please tell them to get the fudge out of the middle lane since they are governed. ( if they do that )
😅😅😅 yea bro that's right 👍👍👍
So you are too broke to fix you APU?
@@dzikijohnny 🤣 nah just haven’t had time to fix it and its not a priority for me at the time make way more than enough to let my truck idle and not fix the apu 🤷🏻♂️
This channel is the best thank you. ET Transport 👌👍🏼
Thanks for doing this part 2. Very well worth watching. I have a cascades aswell. So this helps a lot.
Great video again!! Awesome content as usual
Great video guy's! Kaly is the driver i like hearing from, his testimonial demonstrates intelligence, and very good business chops.👍
This is spot on. It does save.👍
I go 125mph idle 💯% and make 1 million a week.
I agree. The faster you go the more miles you go. 60 mph to 75 mph = 165 miles more in 11 hours.
What the commercial desk drivers won’t understand is that if you spend the money on better equipment with more power and 13 or better 18 speeds you could be doing 90mph at 1250rpm making 7/8 mpg
@@MajikalCowpoke no one remembers pre 55 federal speed limits. Trucks used to go 100 mph.
Don't hit an armadillo at that speed. Especially if your hauling 'Lone Star'!!!
I used to drive and I have the same problem I used to run 5 miles a gallon, I changed the computer program, I change mufflers, I changed air filter, I changed a bigger turbo, I change tires, I use 90% of the cruise control, from 450 horsepower I was getting 5 gallons a mile, after everything I was average 10.3 miles a gallon with 771 horsepower, driving to 65 miles an hour, I was saving $500 to $700 weekly and fuel consumption, keep the good work.
If my truck got governed that low I'd quite that company in a heartbeat
Came here to say this.
The fuel consumption doesn’t lie. Go faster, make less cash.
@@Icecold0505 comparing fuel consumption is very circumstantial with slope grade, headwinds, theres no way to make an unbias'ed comparison with these. One thing's for sure, unrestricted speed = less headaches trying to pass idiots on the road, and avoid potentially hazards situations also resulting in more miles for the day.
Wow, what a turnaround in attitude. Props for sure. You never said if he's still running the same lanes but he mentioned a trip from Seattle so it seems so. So, this is the 4000 mi/week guy, eh? Shocker!
Thanks for the follow up!
BTW I just did a test at 55 mph on cruise with 37k. Paduka KY to Effingham 180 miles. Got 10.0.
5.4 mpg is ridiculously bad
8.1mpg is ridiculously good
I believe if you hauling heavy loads, normal consumption should be around 6.5 - 7.0 mpg
That's what I get. 6.5 to 7. Doing 70mph and average of 40,000 lbs each load. 2019 t680.
@mr fantastic yep
Lol I average about 7 to 7.5 mpg hauling between 46,000 to a shade over 48,000 pounds. Where I'm at a standard tractor with a tri-ax trailer can run 100,000 GVW a tandem axel trailer can run 80,000, tri-ax truck can run 74,000 and a wheeler can run 58,000
Lol I average bout 3.6 with my 3406c.
And that’s doing 100k to 105k.
With a Volvo 760 / 455hp pulling a reefer gross between 74-79000lbs, my average mpg is between 8.2 - 8.9 at 65-68 mph
Awesome! You got him turned around. 9.9 mpg is great .
I have a friend who was getting 11 mpg in a '91 freightliner, running mid weight short haul! For you lead foot Larry's... faster you drive, the faster you arrive IN an accident (not at), slowing us all down due to your heavy foot and little or no thought! I found the same results even as a local company driver years ago. I could drive London Ontario to Toronto at 70 mph in about 2 1/4 hours... but struggled to rest properly cause it took 3-4 hours to wind down from the drive, once I started driving at 62-63 mpg my stress levels reduced to 1/2 hour to wind down! and it only took me an average of 12 minutes longer each direction. So as far as I was concerned... not enough time savings to justify the stress/fuel/risk. I also found I enjoyed the drive more due to less 'fighting' with incompetent 4 wheelers, and other truck drivers, in an all fired hurry, like I was. Not only that, I saw an increase in how far I could go on 1 tank of fuel! Now? I challenge myself to see how many miles I can get on the fuel I have, so far 1300 miles on 150 gallons of fuel..8.6 mpg! Btw thats from averaging 4 1/2 to 5 mpg before. As a company driver, I try to look at it this way.... the more I can save the company in overall transportation cost, the more I can expect to get paid in the long haul!! Because the more money they're making, the more they have available to share with their asset/driver. Just remember, if your employer really doesn't want you saving him $$$ he/she would have never hired you. If you dont agree that is your prerogative, but as for me? The mental health benefits outweigh the stresses of driving like I should have been there yesterday! As a result of my decision to reduce my pace, I've had employers give me a hard time about it, and have even been fired for it! But at the end of the day.... I'm responsible for how I drive the truck, and I'm not willing to be the reason your next of kin get a phone call from the Emergency Responders... nuff said!
Bs on all that stress from going fast matter of fact it's less stressful and a lot more fun
You might as well go 55 that will save u a lot of money with these comments u probably not a driver
Your first mistake kaly was the lease purchase.
kaly is a badass amazing to see how fast he can adjust and overcome. yall put out some great content thanks for all the information yall share.
Really like your videos. I’m a local delivery driver and own my own handyman business on the side, but I think about cost savings for the company that I work for and in a way globally (supply, demand, savings) . Companies need to be more involved and find a balance between the goals of profit and employee pay and this is good info as well and a good partnership of splitting cost savings. Keep it up.
The rich stay rich by spending like the poor and investing without stopping, while the poor stay poor by spending like the rich yet not investing like the rich
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@@marilyntammy7367 There are scammers but real brokers are out there for investors
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If you want to go 10-15 mpg under the speed limit....STAY OFF THE INTERSTATE!!!
I will always feel that the over governed and under powered trucks are the biggest safety problem.
That's a huge problem in California: up to 70 mph for cars, and 55 for trucks. It's dangerous as hell.
U can save 20,000 a year driving 55 in cali
Would love to see a video comparing the fuel efficiency of a classic conventional like the W900 to these aero models like the Cascadia. Maybe throw a cabover in there too... Haha great content, super interesting for sure!
Fuel economy on a cabover here in Europe (we run at 40,000kg gross on 5axles total) limited to 90kmh is around 8mpg. Real careful drivers can push into the 9's
WOW, thank you!
In 2017 I had one of the at the time brand new 2018 t680's with a good apu. I hired a guy for one month to watch all the truck analytics to help me with fuel mileage. Everything from speed to how I was shifting and I was able to get up to 10.5 on good runs (flat 1-10) but hovered mostly around 9.5 doing 55 mph. Which was hard to do because the truck could do 85 and I hated seeing ever other truck passing me. Loose a little pride to gain a little money.
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Ravi Kumar.
It's nice working for this good company like this
Good information!
Pretty sad that the driver has to go 55mph sleep without being able to run their truck just to make minimum pay. Don't sound like you drivers are getting paid enough. Yes I do believe that you should do your best for saving but at the same time you should be able to do the speed limit and be comfortable sleeping
This guy is pathetic, nothing but a fleece purchase.
Difference is $2000 in your pocket going faster or $5000 going slower. Why do the speed LIMIT if you don't have to? You know it is a LIMIT...... you DON'T have to drive that fast. As for comfort....It has a APU/EPU so has heat and air WITH THE TRUCK OFF. As for idle time, it is a matter of turning the truck off when fueling, and at shippers and receivers. Sitting here waiting 2 hours for a dock and truck next to me has his running. Mine is off with the EPU running keeping me comfortable in the sleeper berth.
@@truckerhershey7042 the speed limit is for cars not big trucks most folk never read the book good.
@@craigj.651 you post requires a response, but you didnt put a smiley face so I think you are serious, and thus there is no response to what you wrote that I can post here.
@@truckerhershey7042 read any trucking book, if you work for a company ask the safety guy, hell even google it. Knowledge is power. That's why when trucks get in accidents 90% of the time they are at fault, its not a coincidence. If a car cuts you off going the speed limit in bad weather an you can't stop in time it's your fault.
9.1 mpg overall freightliner Cascadia. 50% ice-cream and Tyson loads "heavy". 15% DH, and apu. 1.4% idle.
"A penny saved is a penny earned."
Unfortunately probably goes in the company bank not the drivers
@@seanvanwallegham579 It applies to owner operators as well.
@@dchawk81 I imagine it does, but do I care? Not even a bit !
Great, informative video!
Wow a owner who actually is a leader not a boss this is awesome 👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I’m not a driver. But you make great and interesting videos. Plan on watching more.
I think You found the one thing that is really going to
work to increase the fuel mpg ! The ol fuel bonus !!
It's pretty much always worked in the past ! $$$$
is a GREAT motivator !!!!
It's a universal language
that Everyone understands !
Once most Drivers finally
realize how much $$$$ is
going to hit Their bottom
line , THAT'S when the light
over Their head lights up !
After a few positive pay checks , You'd have to pay
THEM to drive over 65 ( or
idle too much ) !!!! When it comes down to idleing overnight or a motel room
for the same $$$ I think it's
a no - brainer ( besides , I like hot showers ) !!!!
2021 Freightliner. Last month 8.7 mpg for the month doing 60 mph. #2 in fleet. #1 was 9.37
Really enjoy ET transport videos. I'm a uk trucker driving a volvo fh 500. Our trucks are govened to 53 mph, with the eco mode set on 3. Were regularly hitting 10 + mpg, even on Britain's crap roads.
Is it the FH version 4 with turbo compound...I heard the old version 3 ls a fuel guzzler compared to Scania. Planning to get one but leaning myself towards Scania. be safe on the road
I'm truck driver i will be happy to work in your company
@@nesh2003 The company did a 6 month comparison between volvo and scania, based on the results, they ordered 250 units for various depots. But with the eco mode on 3, which is set on company instructions, and can't be altered, the fluctuations with speed on cruise control, is alarming... Apart from that, brilliant truck. Safe driving
But drivers in UK, France and other European countries get paid monthly no matter what miles they drive. In the US the more miles drivers drive the more they get paid
@@jodiholbrook3229That's correct we do. Obviously we haven't the distance deliverys the US drivers have, but with the horrendous congestion in the UK being paid by the hour, not the mile is the only way to make money. My average miles per day is about 350 and in this country, that's enough.
If a company driver is getting paid by the mile, his mindset is faster faster, more miles. He doesn't normally care much about the fuel. Then he will get mad if he can't idle the truck and say, how you think i'm supposed to sleep good without the AC going? I need to be comfortable
that is probably why he said the truck was equipped with apus
At 63mph these drivers are barley covering 600mi in a 11hr day. I did the math of 8mpg vs 7mpg because both my 2020 cascadia's get 7+ cruising at 70-75. Based on 3000mi per week you save 53 gallons or $160. $160 for 45 weeks of work is $7200 saved for the year. The driver doing 70+ works 7hrs less each week doing the same miles. That adds up to 315hrs working 45weeks.
Essentially you made $23 per hour for the 315 hours you dragged your butt down the highway saving fuel.
As for the 7mpg guys we take those 315 hours saved to get more loads and make even more $$$ than $7200.
Knowing your numbers in trucking is a absolute must.
I like the way you think-!!!! I agree 👍.. the newer trucks are constantly getting better will fuel efficiency anyways. It rather get 1 mpg less and do more loads and make more money and be home more often. Work life balance..
600 mile day is a perfect day. Doesn't happened often with a driver going 63 mph. 500 miles a day is the average. No governor on the truck you average 600 miles a day. That extra 100 miles a day pays your fuel.
If you are a company driver paid per mile with a MPG bonus(the big orange truck was either .01 or .02/ mile when I worked for them) :
58mph x .41(pay plus bonus) = $23.78/hr
65mph x .39(no bonus)= $25.35
62mph(Orange Governed) x .39 = $24.18
...lets up that bonus to more accurately reflect the fuel I'm saving you.
not to mention they wouldn't give me an APU so I had to debate whether to idle in Phoenix when it was 121 degrees in the parking lot. Thus, mpg is gone, leading to cruise control failure so now my pedal stop IS cruise control.
Good work, good method.
Some people would rather run fastet to have more time at home
Look at the previous video and see how much more time he had at home ;-)
UK driver here but the information/knowledge carries across.
Over here we have supermarkets limiting their trucks to 52mph because fuel is alot more expensive across the pond than in the US.
Awesome video. Even in my 2019 Honda Civic, when I do 75 mph I get under 40 mpg but if I do 60-65 mph I’ll get over 45 mpg.
Jesus... At 60 I get 22 highway miles
@@joet3123 wow. What are you driving lol
What engine and transmission you got in it?
CVT?
@@domingofernandez4359 VW Atlas. They are absolutely terrible in fuel economy but they can tow, go offroad, spacious and overall awesome lol I really would like better milage though.
Ty!
Wow.. thats Awesome
Great video
As a o/o i drive 65 avg 8 mpg pulling a lowpro step.. here's one for you if you drive 70 you avg 650 in 10hr if you drive 65 you avg 630 miles per day. The guy driving 70 plus will pass you 3 times a day and get no further than the guy doing 65 . The guy running 62 will make more money then a guy running 70 plus and work less. Your driver will make about 25000 dollars a year more just by his fuel savings.
Wow... Interesting break down...
Really good video at the end of the day it's about money 💰
I never drive below 70. Not doing 58 on a 70 or 75, that can cause dangerous situations.
Yeah when someone is drive 58 in a 75 it causes wrecks atleast one person realizes it
Over Governed and Under Powered trucks are the biggest safety issue that’s not being addressed.
Are you recommending cruise control all the time or just when the terrain permits? I read once that with Passenger cars and light trucks that it's more suggested to shy away from using cruise control in a hilly region because the cruise control system on some Vehicles tends to overreact in a way and will aggressively apply throttle and down shift the transmission in order to maintain speed. In those instances it is deemed better to manually control the throttle, even so much as to roll back on the pedal a little bit as you're climbing the hill in order to prevent the transmission from downshifting, with the intent of trying to maximize fuel economy. I do know that the large diesel engines in semi trucks have a different powerband and torque curve then say your Toyota Corolla, and a technology is there that new trucks do have automated manual or fully automatic transmissions now, but I assume a lot of the same stuff that is recommended for small cars to maximize fuel economy must certainly carry over to semi trucks, and like you showing this video and your previous one does compound to larger savings because of the distances traveled and fuel consumed compared to a small car.
Thanks for the great content. What TMS Software are you using to track this data
This is great video. Very good point you talking about and a very great service you're doing for your Team and all truck drivers tuning into your videos.
Thanks for the support!
7.3 mpg I cruise as much as the dry roads let me. Top cruise speed is 72. Really enjoy your content.
What truck are guy driving?
@@1slow540 21 Volvo vnl 760
@@tony6796 makes sense pretty much brand new then what’s your gear ratio?
I drive a 17 740, and I get 7.1 with 40K plus loads in WV, TN, VA, and KY. Cruise at 72, pedal to 75. Where you drive and what is in the box is the biggest factor.
Hi! Very interesting video indeed! What program were you using to monitor their stats?
I've got 9.3 MPG from Tolleson AZ to Abilene TX doing 75 in the 75s, 70 in the 70s, 65 in the 65s, etc. How could I get that? Tailwind and a strong one at that. I used to drive my company truck from where I park 167 miles to a chemical warehouse in Winston Salem NC at 60 Mph even though the speed limit was 65 and 70 most of the way their. I would get 10.3 MPG on that short trip pretty much every time.
I do 10 mpg on my detroit 12.7. Light loads and Midwest only. I drive 59mph.
This guy claims to be differant and care but then he does the exact thing that the big companies are doing. It's all about control guys. So sad everybidy is falling for this corporate narrative
So right, talk about micro management
@@KittyKrazeWithDar that's fine. It's good that he cares. But as owner operators he shouldn't HAVE to do anything. Micromanaging
Well, trying to slow down the driver by making them more money, and offering bonuses for better fuel efficiency, i can't see the problem.
and by slowing them down, they reduce risk of accident, carbon footprint of the business, lower insurance cost etc.
It's a win-win for everyone.
I don't know about your study. A vehicle going 70 compared to 60 is an extra 110 miles a day.
With Swift. At 65mpg you make 27$ hr but greatly compromise the monthly bonus. At 55mph you make like 23$hr and can get up to 700$ bonus.
I am a owner operator out of Florida my truck is open and I aways drive at 65 my fuel bill has always been way less than my friends and they always ask me what's the trick..I say slow down..
I like to hear you say "fright-liner" in the month of October. I have a skeleton who rides in my passenger seat (my grandson Sam calls him "Skelly"). My company recently put me into a 2022 Cascadia sleeper and I'm learning how to squeeze the mileage out of it. I think it would rock if my company (Turkey Hill) gave out bonuses for excellent fuel economy.
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Very good video vs.
58 doesnt make that much difference I drove for walmart our trucks are governed at 65 I run 65 my average fuel milage for the entire year is 9.1 mpg we have APU on the truck's I use all the time for ac,I drove for a company before Walmart the trucks were government at 58 mph my average fuel milage was 5.8 mpg the 58 made it worse you had no momentum for hills.
9.5 mpg wow.even my ford f150 can't make that kind of mpg
He's lying 🤥.
7:9 us mpg equals 9.5 imp mpg he doesn’t state what he’s using
What is the max cruise control speed and the max foot speed? The company I drive for splits the two speeds at 63 mph at foot and 65 mph on cruise.
Love the video hopefully you can make a video of the Kenwood T68 that's what I'm driving Right now 2021 12 I want to be the owner operator myself you want to operator myself
Going as slow as you want them to drive I hope you tell them to stay in the right hand lane and stop blocking traffic
Love your videos. Lots of insights..could you please tell me what software do use. can you share she expenses sheet please..thanks
I would love to meet you Ronan, I am looking forward to travel to Canada once visa processing starts and the borders are open.
I saw PART 1 of this video and now watching the 2nd video & I must say trucking is an interesting field & loaded with a lots of💲💲💵💵, Working as an IT professional in India & can't even think to earn that much 💲💲💵💵 sometimes I it feels like should start trucking but in India truck driver salery is not even 1/5 of what u earn in Canada. Any way you create such great content that watching this im also thinking to start trucking leaving my current job which feels like suffocating & yes keep doing the good works.👍👍
I haul flatbed without any of those fuel saving things on the truck like fairings over the fuel tank, or super singles or trailer skirts. Mid roof 567. My truck gets ran at 70 where legal. Average 7.5 mpg basically always hauling right at 80k lbs. Truck gets over 8mpg when loaded light.
Lol
Good channel. Also mention unescery stopping and going
Vid is money 👌🏾
I get it i do but speed and idle aren't the only factors. Weight, weather, and terrain also factor in. You can have 0 idle time and go 60 mph but if you're heavy, constantly going up hills and mountains and taking on alot wind your mpg will still suck. Getting 8-9 mpg consistently is very hard!
Why wouldn't you use cruice control.
The only time I dont is on turns or heavy traffic. Or of i want to be in fill control with krails and heavy construction.
Like the man said old school / traditional mentallity
IF you drive only at night shifts thats just safer for driver to not use cruise control. try it yourself and say later!!
I live in Illinois(19yo). Do you know where is the best place to get my CDL, I just want to know that I will learn everything that I need to know in the beginning.
I live in Des Plaines IL and work as a bus mechanic. The company I work for helped me get my CDL class B for free. If you are not in a hurry to get CDL find a truck repair shop that will help you get CDL (of course don't tell them you are going to quit the day after you pass driving test). The experience you get as a beginner's mechanic will help you get the knowledge to pass you written exams and pretrip. All you need is a little bit of driving experience that the company will have to help with. Everything in the written/pre trip exam is in the book you can get for free from the DMV in Elk Grove.
Elgin community College is the best school you can go to in your area. I used to teach there. You will be well prepared after leaving that program.
driving that slow cost time, parking spaces, and doors at shippers/receivers
vs what...65? no it doesn't
@@racekrasser7869 yea it does
@@racekrasser7869 u go ahead and wait at the shipper/reciever not me, u go ahead and wait way behind me at traffic jam with all 4 wheelers cutting in you will have to wait lots longer. and you go ahead and park in a crappy parking spot or go find somewhere else to park.
Timing is everything
How much home time is he losing? Plus, what is the DEF fuel cost. I don't remember you speaking of this extra cost wich is getting pricey. Thanks for the videos, they help
I used to run 58 or less. But that's when I wasn't getting paid. Now that I actually make a decent rate I lose more money running slow than I save.
FUCK YEAH!
SAY NO TO CHEAP FREIGHT.
I am curious about the Volvo going full load up and down the 81 PA and VA.
i think it would be easy to do 9mpg if you stay under 50,000lbs and did 55mph and the best part about having this program would be less tickets and crash's and less wear on the truck. seems like easy math to me and a win win for everyone. also why not fit the trucks with a 4Kw battery pack for ac and heat at night ?? then that would kill idling all together i would think. Cant wait to get into a big rig next year.
Fruitliner park smart already does this - battery a/c and diesel fired bunk/engine heater. Wouldn't drive without it!! Hafta drive in quite often to avoid being beside a knuckle dragger with straight pipes idling at 1800 all night ;-)
Was the idle due to trying to stay warm in cab during down time? Now that it warmed up, he doesn't have to? Drivers should never use cruise control in inclement weather. Otherwise, good info.
He had an APU
So if you're a company driver plugging along at 58 and add everything else you don't make minimum wage. If you told me i had to drive like that id tell you to go find another driver or pay me by thr hour.
Yes David The lease to buy program is a nightmare. Unless you are the one bidding the loads you get screwed. You are nothing more than a company driver that pays all the overhead while the company gets all the profit. There is a backstory to this video we are not hearing.
Yep.
These lease to own schemes that a lot of these carriers come up with, I swear to God they were created by a politician, lol! It should be actually illegal to have a lease operator program here in Canada. You don’t make any money at all. All you’re doing is just paying the overhead expenses so that the carrier doesn’t have to pay it, but in the end, it’s the carrier that’s making a shit ton of money with the profits.
Lucky if you get 500 miles a day at that speed.
Truck 'a' goes 500 miles a day
Truck 'b' goes 650 miles a day
That extra 150 miles a day pays for your fuel.
Bean counters are not counting right.
I keep getting offers from a certain trucking company (famous for having the SLOWEST trucks of large fleets), and they cannot understand why I do NOT want to work for them! My last company had newer tractors, and was limited to 70mph, the big company was limited to 62mph!!! Why would I work for them when I can ONLY get 85% of the miles that I got with the 70mph? I was AVERAGING over 700 miles a day (and not worrying about traffic or running hard), why would I go to a truck that can ONLY get about 675 (if I NEVER hit traffic)? As for my cruise use it has ALWAYS been over 60% using the cruise, pretty much if it is in high gear the cruise on. My Idle WAS high (because of a problem with tractor), but I generally do NOT idle unless it is below 40 or above 80.
Congrats drive below the speed limit and block traffic for all of us who don’t give a damn about fuel mileage
But do it in the right lane and it keeps the left lane free for passing. I bet you’d appreciate that, right?
That's right just run ur azz off and get there as fast as u can
If you’re an o/o or lease operator fuel ⛽️ mileage makes a bigger difference in profit margin.
sir good night im from indian truck driver and very rispect your and your vedio 🙏