Glasgow Gangster Johnny Boy Steele One Of Scotland’s Most Punished Prisoner Tells his story

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  • Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
  • James talks to gangster Johnny Boy Steele Scotland’s most punished prisoner after rioting and escaping from every prison he was in. Johnny talks about his life of crime and all his daring prison escapes along with his brothers Jim and Joseph.
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  • @pointparasai_music
    @pointparasai_music 5 лет назад +34

    This guy is very intelligent. Listening to him, he makes a hell of a lot of sense and his analysis of factors about how he became what he became shows a deep understanding of human nature. Excellent.

    • @stevenboyle9966
      @stevenboyle9966 5 лет назад +2

      canny stop rioting canny stop escaping,, get me a couple of blades Joe and a hacksaw show these fukers a deep understanding of human nature lol

    • @danielpraetz3318
      @danielpraetz3318 2 года назад +2

      Alot of guys who escape more than a fluke ken? have a very high IQ to see opportunity when it arises

    • @garytazcarroll8623
      @garytazcarroll8623 Год назад +1

      You have no idea 🤷‍♂️ of the level of intelligence Johnny boy has 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿told by himself to me about the debates they used to sit in ( hand picked few cons ) with all types of intelligence and the likes of ex judges , top Governors etc on subjects like Prison Reform 😢🙏nothing but the highest of respect ✊ for him and his family 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💙✊GTC

  • @user-nd5jc8xv8v
    @user-nd5jc8xv8v 5 лет назад +8

    this interview is on a par with the Blink one. I was so engrossed with Blink and im the same with Johnnyboy. These guys are so worthy of telling us now. Im 64 and i like to hear the tales from inside. We need to respect their dignity and say thanks for telling us

  • @paulinerai5078
    @paulinerai5078 4 месяца назад +1

    Absolutely loved listening to Johnny boy talk about his exploits, l am familiar with the stories, super podcast James.

  • @tomharkins8850
    @tomharkins8850 5 лет назад +3

    This is the fourth time I've listened to this interview. Johnny is fascinating. Takes a special guy to get through all that. First class yet again James pal.

  • @nickdiplacito5276
    @nickdiplacito5276 5 лет назад +7

    Absolute love these stories, serious subjects ,but in true glasgow fashion ,nice one james

  • @emmajayne682
    @emmajayne682 4 года назад +4

    Another amazing episode, love the style of your podcast James, great conversation going and great prompts from you to the guests ❤👍

  • @henrylogman5368
    @henrylogman5368 5 лет назад +1

    Best one yet , got better with every minute . What a guy , such an infectious personality and character 👍

  • @alecsloan2445
    @alecsloan2445 5 лет назад +5

    My favourite episode to date , he tells his story so well ❤

  • @paulbeadle5648
    @paulbeadle5648 4 года назад +5

    Knowing johnny personally I can vouch for him being one of the most genuine people you'll ever meet and its a real privilege to know him

    • @gazzbhoy8950
      @gazzbhoy8950 2 года назад

      Nothing genuine about a thief a genuine man is someone that gets up works a job every day in Scotland rain hail or shine every day to feed there families that’s a real man a genuine man not this eejit parasite

    • @lynnemcgrath5876
      @lynnemcgrath5876 Год назад

      Just watched tbis for the 3rd time. I 100% agree with u, lovely guy i hope he is living his best life now, he deserves it more than most ❤

  • @Mikey-gl1je
    @Mikey-gl1je 5 лет назад +4

    Brilliant James. One of the best interviews ive seen. Johnny Boy is a top bloke

  • @villasambabrasil8737
    @villasambabrasil8737 5 лет назад +1

    James E.,love what you do.You let your guests speak,unlike a lot of shows,you don't interupt and make it all about about yourself,you just let your tell their story.Cracking show,keep up the great work,thank you.

    • @JamesEnglish
      @JamesEnglish  5 лет назад

      VillaSamba Brasil thank you 👍🏼

  • @gerryh9592
    @gerryh9592 6 лет назад +39

    Superb I could have listen to the stories all night ....Boom and we're off !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @8busby
    @8busby 5 лет назад +4

    Quickest 2hours and 9 minutes of my life. Brilliant podcast James English , I could listen to Johnny boy all night.

  • @burants89
    @burants89 5 лет назад +2

    Dunno how I found this but it's good to hear some of our own accents, proper good old villains and hilariously funny stories

  • @50enda
    @50enda 4 года назад +4

    Brilliant interview could listen to him all day 😍it's sad what his family went through hope they are living a good life now 💯

  • @nicklittle7168
    @nicklittle7168 4 года назад +3

    Just working through these podcasts that stand out for me watched a shed load, great guests riveting watching, just watched johnny adair, wraith,sayers to mention a few, blink was a good one funny as, keep up the good work James.

    • @JamesEnglish
      @JamesEnglish  4 года назад +2

      Thanks nick appreciate it

    • @nicklittle7168
      @nicklittle7168 4 года назад

      johnny boy steele what a guy,30 mins in loving the crack.

  • @weeman8911
    @weeman8911 5 лет назад +3

    First class podcast really appreciate all these podcasts mate cheers james

  • @michaelkavanagh932
    @michaelkavanagh932 5 лет назад +4

    I'm fairly new to your podcasts James but this one is my favourite so far! What a fucking character! Absolutely brilliant mate

  • @daviel6595
    @daviel6595 5 лет назад +5

    Now watching 10th or 11th video hooked great videos keep up good work

  • @markclarke2680
    @markclarke2680 5 лет назад +4

    James English 👍 i live in NY over 30 yrs and must say keep bringing em on bro .....

  • @DonC70
    @DonC70 5 лет назад +1

    Another cracking interview. Top work James. I mind following Joe's story as much as you could back then. It was so obvious they'd been fitted up. Johnny is some character.

  • @Nocomments666
    @Nocomments666 5 лет назад +5

    Read his book in Kilmarnock prison in 2010 was an old con who mentioned the book to me “the bird that never flew” great read and respect to you pal. FTS

  • @gemsgray7888
    @gemsgray7888 5 лет назад +2

    Brilliant interview james , get him back for part 2 .

  • @nathanoutput710
    @nathanoutput710 5 лет назад +3

    Keep these coming geezer, quality content on your channel

  • @carolcrompton3934
    @carolcrompton3934 5 лет назад +5

    Watched about 4 interviews now totally hooked

  • @stacydavidson3736
    @stacydavidson3736 6 лет назад +21

    Best one yet James! Do more like this mate. I love hearing bout Glasgow gang life

    • @JamesEnglish
      @JamesEnglish  6 лет назад +1

      Stacy Davidson thanks Stacy x

    • @johndow7807
      @johndow7807 4 года назад

      total scumbag,

    • @stacydavidson3736
      @stacydavidson3736 4 года назад

      John Dow who me, James or Johnny? 😂 thanks anyway 😘 I enjoyed James’ podcasts & like hearing the stories. Like I enjoy louis Theroux docs with lifers; doesn’t mean I agree with what the interviewees have done

    • @scottishlass5437
      @scottishlass5437 3 года назад

      @@johndow7807 Johnnyboy is a gent, he has a heart of gold

  • @tamdan80
    @tamdan80 5 лет назад +3

    Lay back in bed with the plugs in listening. Seemed like 20 mins or so. 2.30 now and my neighbours next door must think am off my nut for all the laughing. That was really good James and Johnny. What a film right enough.

  • @kirstymoon3404
    @kirstymoon3404 4 года назад +3

    canny help but love this lovable rogue . Love his honesty attitude and storys. A night on the bevy with him would be amazing .

  • @garytazcarroll8623
    @garytazcarroll8623 5 лет назад +11

    Respect from an ex con to another.You gave wee Joe my pal a Tower of strength to over come his inhumane Conviction,over ruled by the way,love and Peace, Taz ...

  • @JacobiteBhoy
    @JacobiteBhoy 5 лет назад +4

    Howling every time he says "al wreck the place" 😂😂😂 brilliant listen

  • @Vinseneb
    @Vinseneb 5 лет назад +2

    Intriguing Interview, you have a gift of putting people at ease James, allowing them to open right up. Jimmy Boyle has been pretty elusive these days. It would be great to hear what he's been up to over the last couple of decades if you could get him on.

  • @graeme2011
    @graeme2011 5 лет назад +3

    You need to get himself on for an extended interview lol that was epic 😂😎

  • @albertsteptoe3710
    @albertsteptoe3710 5 лет назад +4

    Absolutely genius I’ve never laughed so much in my life . This guys legend .

  • @ryanmulrooney7563
    @ryanmulrooney7563 6 лет назад +8

    Superb Wan a the best podcasts a have ever heard keep up the good work lads

    • @JamesEnglish
      @JamesEnglish  6 лет назад +1

      ryan mulrooney cheers mate 👍🏼

  • @marioarciello7373
    @marioarciello7373 6 лет назад +2

    Watched this for the second time tonight ! Johnny’s Patters class , great interview James ! Keep them coming 😂😂😂😂😂💎

  • @williamdunne2691
    @williamdunne2691 6 лет назад +5

    Great interview James as I have been there and done ✅ it great stories from Johnny Bhoy 👍👍👍

    • @JamesEnglish
      @JamesEnglish  6 лет назад +1

      William Dunne cheers mate 👍🏼

  • @michaelbrennan7779
    @michaelbrennan7779 6 лет назад +4

    Absolutely superb interview, probably only srached the surface, hope you could get Johnny and the saughton harrier on together

  • @jasonlogan8048
    @jasonlogan8048 5 лет назад +1

    James well done mate loved your talk with these guys keep up the good work

  • @skipraida5497
    @skipraida5497 5 лет назад +1

    Mate in the work just put me on to these today, going to be a long weekend! Watched the blink one now I'm hooked! Like the way this guy is speaking very clear and concise and not trying to sound like a hard man. Could probably have been a good business man had he had the right guidance.

  • @onit_ayrshire
    @onit_ayrshire 5 лет назад +6

    Read his book while I was doin my own sentence,unbelievable what he went through compared to jail nowadays

  • @paulaitken6012
    @paulaitken6012 5 лет назад +6

    Loving these podcasts James....crackin....sit back stoned n just listen to these boys... some stories.... when Glasgow was Glesga

    • @JamesEnglish
      @JamesEnglish  5 лет назад +1

      Paul Aitken cheers Paul 👍🏼😃🚬

    • @burants89
      @burants89 5 лет назад +3

      Paul Aitken
      Ano mate before we shipped in aw the migrants....

  • @jackyblue67same10
    @jackyblue67same10 5 лет назад +3

    I love that man's laugh in the red shirt he sounds just like my brother-in-law .I call it an infectious laugh when u hear them makes ya want to laugh with them

    • @JamesEnglish
      @JamesEnglish  5 лет назад +2

      Jackyblue67 Same 👍🏼🤣🤣🙌🏼

    • @johnmckee7640
      @johnmckee7640 5 лет назад +1

      @@JamesEnglish hope you win. Buddy..

  • @jordanhowat7202
    @jordanhowat7202 4 года назад +2

    Amazing interview james....great mention of ma da alec. The stories he used to tell me

  • @evettemilne8358
    @evettemilne8358 5 лет назад +3

    What a great character! 😀 loved his stories... He tells them well.

  • @derekireland5596
    @derekireland5596 5 лет назад +3

    Great interview james i have been watching all ur gangster interviews u should try an get people involved in the lyons v daniel war

  • @rebelbhoy1888
    @rebelbhoy1888 6 лет назад +4

    Superb ma man. Been listening aw day.. Gid stuff bro.

    • @JamesEnglish
      @JamesEnglish  6 лет назад +1

      rebelbhoy1888 cheers mate 👍🏼

  • @fionarobson4723
    @fionarobson4723 3 года назад +1

    Cah beleive am watching this on you tube av never knew anyone on you tube in person but a do know johnny steel😁hope your well johnny and the bairns. Love your pod casts james 👍xxx

  • @edwardbagan1910
    @edwardbagan1910 5 лет назад +3

    good on you john, you talk well and I loved this interview. all the best pal ,teddy.

  • @lillywalker3866
    @lillywalker3866 6 лет назад +2

    Love Hearing These Old Glasgow Stories, Great Interview Again James.

  • @darrenwilson5922
    @darrenwilson5922 4 года назад +2

    Superb podcast one of the best!

  • @craigleith100
    @craigleith100 5 лет назад +2

    Awright James pal 🙋👍 just found your vids yesterday n love the ones I've watched so far 😀💯👌
    Are you on twitter pal?
    ✌💙👍from the Capital 🙋

    • @JamesEnglish
      @JamesEnglish  5 лет назад +1

      TheDevilWearsPrada thank you. Jamesenglish0

  • @astra47420
    @astra47420 5 лет назад +1

    Brilliant James another masterpiece

  • @stephenwilliamson1491
    @stephenwilliamson1491 5 лет назад +2

    Superb could listen to this guy all day just about to goto jail myself. Right up for a riot 😂😂

  • @crglwr5648
    @crglwr5648 5 лет назад +3

    Av changed ma best wan mate. Johnny Steele. Superb story man.
    Old school family like mine. 😉👍🏻👍🏻

  • @williamchalmers8312
    @williamchalmers8312 5 лет назад +4

    Good to see a Glasgow boy do well with the videos. Keep them coming James 👍🏻

  • @caragray7010
    @caragray7010 4 года назад +2

    These guys have lived some life, it's great hearing the stories.

  • @bobwhyte1875
    @bobwhyte1875 Год назад

    Amazing podcast again @james.English and @giro, production video's where Johnny and slasher Gallagher (GOVERNOR) etc give you a insight into how much this guy went through an amazing guy,, please give these videos on RUclips a watch and it'll open your eyes to the brutality he went through ✊

  • @johnkennedy9746
    @johnkennedy9746 5 лет назад +4

    great interview knew some of the old names plus i was in larchgrove with johnny boy from ..an old blackhill boy

  • @bossboyritchno1287
    @bossboyritchno1287 5 лет назад +1

    1:40:40 fuckin class👌🏼(lawyer) "Jonny yeh canny plead not guilty the whole country knows yeh escaped! (wee Jonny) "I don't gee a fuck the whole country's tellin lies!" 😂😂😂

  • @kevinowensmith1572
    @kevinowensmith1572 5 лет назад +1

    James these videos always jump when I watch them. No other video does it

  • @avrilkennedy5970
    @avrilkennedy5970 5 лет назад +5

    Mindblown. He lived in the Scottish borders for a while. His daughters were lovely, one was in same class as mine. Had no clue about his previous life, just a single dad who was doing a grand job with his daughters

    • @paulwalton1222
      @paulwalton1222 5 лет назад

      He still is in the borders. Single dad? I ain't seen him for a few months. Hadn't heard they split up.

    • @avrilkennedy5970
      @avrilkennedy5970 5 лет назад +1

      @@paulwalton1222 I'm going back 7 years ago. He moved up north. Whether he returned to borders I would not know

    • @avrilkennedy5970
      @avrilkennedy5970 5 лет назад

      @@paulwalton1222 he was single back then, just him and his 2 girls

    • @paulwalton1222
      @paulwalton1222 5 лет назад +1

      @@avrilkennedy5970 he doing well and he is happy so all good.

    • @lornacasey7782
      @lornacasey7782 5 лет назад +2

      Thank you Avril. It's johnny.

  • @millionpoundmaker
    @millionpoundmaker 5 лет назад +3

    Mate pure brilliant content ! Can u try do an interview with skelly ? Sam Mccrorie

    • @JamesEnglish
      @JamesEnglish  5 лет назад +1

      Slots&SneaksHyperfuse cheers mate.
      Al get him on soon mate

  • @martinkinnon9184
    @martinkinnon9184 2 года назад +2

    He’s my friend he’s got lots of stories had some good times haven’t we Johnny boy 🙏💪

  • @sammillar3881
    @sammillar3881 2 года назад +2

    Brilliant Johnny an James.

  • @marksingal528
    @marksingal528 5 лет назад +8

    I wish you could hear the stories he'd never tell!
    I consider Johnnieboy a true friend and have known him for a long time.
    Please check out his artwork and exhibition and the aforementioned book.
    All the best,
    Mark 💚👌fts

    • @kirstymartin2948
      @kirstymartin2948 5 лет назад

      Awe I was In eriskay hoose with him about 3 years ago he's a nice genuine person n a good laugh x

  • @AnonKayla1337
    @AnonKayla1337 4 года назад +4

    Brilliant watch💯

  • @derekfraser3379
    @derekfraser3379 2 года назад

    Best podcast guest ever !

  • @YouTubeChannel-ye3pv
    @YouTubeChannel-ye3pv 6 лет назад +12

    This is class!!

  • @Shug1910
    @Shug1910 5 лет назад +5

    Brilliant, some characters in Glasgow, unconscious comedians, it's a city like no other, i would say Liverpool is the nearest to being like Glasgow, its England's Glasgow!

  • @TheClassifiedMan
    @TheClassifiedMan 5 лет назад +5

    Shocked wae a booby trapped tobacco tin😂😂😂😂 buckled man never expected that

  • @scottishlass5437
    @scottishlass5437 3 года назад +1

    Respect to Johnnyboy, total legend.💪🏼👏🏼

  • @karenmolyneux4434
    @karenmolyneux4434 6 лет назад +11

    Respect Johnny great show guys xx

  • @shaunmufc58
    @shaunmufc58 5 лет назад +2

    Could listen to this feller all day.Reminds me of Jimmy Boyle.

  • @stargazer6675
    @stargazer6675 5 лет назад +3

    Do more of this. This is social history you dont hear often.

  • @darrenrobison9752
    @darrenrobison9752 Год назад

    👏👏👏1st book I read in gael . Class,brilliant mate 🙌🙌🙌

  • @gooddeedsbeatbad2625
    @gooddeedsbeatbad2625 5 лет назад +1

    What a fine fellow!! When these guys with experience & wisdom talk, you've got to be quiet and just listen and they,l regale you with tales forever. He,s suffered hell on earth and it's great to see him have freedom. If the younger dood podcasts can match the honesty and truth of Jonnie it will be good listening. Chuck all the fairy tales and propaganda to suit their egos down the pan. Great series your doing all round James so well done.

  • @garyanderson6213
    @garyanderson6213 5 лет назад +6

    These are brilliant stories. Be good if there was more 👌👍

  • @policingthepolice1984
    @policingthepolice1984 2 года назад

    very articulate brilliant interview once again

  • @jordan2611
    @jordan2611 6 лет назад +12

    Try get big Jamie Stevenson on this James. Guy could tell ya a few belters. Funny big guy tae!

    • @jamesdow6579
      @jamesdow6579 3 года назад

      I was from fife.ruñ Wii all the crews
      Go me it was then or us
      61 now and can't get away from it,

  • @smiddyboy1971
    @smiddyboy1971 5 лет назад +3

    Another good podcast Glasgow people will get this.

  • @weescotsguy66
    @weescotsguy66 5 лет назад +1

    Great Work James...

  • @lumpahumpa2773
    @lumpahumpa2773 5 лет назад +3

    Top interview.

  • @lonelytrucker6717
    @lonelytrucker6717 5 лет назад

    Just got round to watching this another brilliant interview James 👌 some stories off the old yin quality 😎

  • @custardcomandos7742
    @custardcomandos7742 4 года назад +1

    Read his book guys 🥇👍 the guy was tough as nails back in the day when prison was no doubt tougher, so lots of respect ✊ to him, a love these podcasts 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🧨dynamite, can’t 🛑 watching them. 🧐

  • @colincorcorcoran5284
    @colincorcorcoran5284 5 лет назад +6

    Great character Johnny boy Steele quite interesting documentary I liked the bit when he was telling us about breaking his brother joe Steele out of saughton prison in Edinburgh and breaking him into barlinie prison Glasgow just so comical the reason he missed his brother joe from the breakout from Edinburgh saughton prison was because the prison wardens club had been broken into and when the police cars sirens were going off one of his associates thought the police were on to them so he had to lie low for cover until the police had gone only to find further down the road he picked up a few of escaped prisoners and ended up dropping them of in and around Edinburgh only to find out joe had a 20 min start but Johnny boy Steele eventually caught up with his brother Joseph who was wrongfully imprisoned for the murder of the 6 members of the Doyle family along with tommy Campbell knowing as the ice cream wars joe was broke out of prison by his brother to protest his innocence that’s when he went down to Buckingham palace and supper glued his self to the palace gates hard life to to do 16 years in prison for something you are innocent of has to be hard time for any man from mr Colin Corcoran high street royal mile Edinburgh 👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍🏻

    • @johndow7807
      @johndow7807 4 года назад

      he is a fucking scumbag same as the rest of the family

    • @colincorcorcoran5284
      @colincorcorcoran5284 4 года назад +1

      John Dow everyone is entitled to their own opinion mate

    • @colincorcorcoran5284
      @colincorcorcoran5284 4 года назад +1

      John Dow you obviously no more about the man for you to feel the way you do about him 👍

    • @scottishlass5437
      @scottishlass5437 3 года назад +1

      @@johndow7807 If you have nothing nice to say then don’t comment

  • @heatherhamilton2686
    @heatherhamilton2686 7 месяцев назад

    Love this x my dad was in barlinneee x

  • @bm563
    @bm563 5 лет назад +9

    Still to this day sickening to hear how paedophiles get protected monks police mps the list goes on

  • @scheme9929
    @scheme9929 6 лет назад +14

    Need to do more like this. Old villains like ferris, blink etc

    • @JamesEnglish
      @JamesEnglish  6 лет назад +2

      Scheme been trying to get them on mate

    • @BritishBoy1971
      @BritishBoy1971 5 лет назад

      Scheme Hear Hear!!

    • @BritishBoy1971
      @BritishBoy1971 5 лет назад

      jmwshellfish Scotland You should have told her that it could be worse, she could have been Blink's cellmate for a 5 stretch. By the end of the term she'd definitely 'know wit he mins'!!
      😂😂😂

  • @Shug1910
    @Shug1910 5 лет назад +8

    Tremendous patter,, great story, would love to have a drink with him.

  • @mac10watp31
    @mac10watp31 5 лет назад +1

    Found this Chanel after you're documentary James quality suff bud!

  • @marimurphy3856
    @marimurphy3856 2 года назад +2

    Steph mcQueen was in St Joshua's and St johns...

  • @johnmcmahon1119
    @johnmcmahon1119 5 лет назад +5

    Absolutely brilliant, movie material. God bless you Johnny been through a lot of shit in your life.

  • @shaunjon6692
    @shaunjon6692 5 лет назад +2

    anybody know how johnny escaped fae barlinnie ,i mean how did they get down the rope ,i know the rest,heard him say he absailed but how cause that one hell of a height ,must be a brave man

  • @dannybrown1982
    @dannybrown1982 4 года назад +1

    My Dad used to run about with him when they were teens. He told me a fair few stories and I'm sure my Dad said he was even mentioned in his book.

  • @rfcrorymacwatp9896
    @rfcrorymacwatp9896 2 года назад

    Guy had me on Facebook wishing me well aw the time really good guy

  • @andrewbryden3256
    @andrewbryden3256 5 лет назад +1

    Another great watch so many laughs

  • @neilredmond8296
    @neilredmond8296 Год назад +2

    Read the man's book great interesting story and up there with all the Scottish true crime prison books.💙🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💙

  • @1972dsrai
    @1972dsrai 5 лет назад +1

    I put the subtitles on this for a few minutes to see if it could handle the Glasgow accent, about 75% accurate. Clear case of how your formative years can greatly dictate and influence the path in life taken as an adult.

  • @jamesmacfalane
    @jamesmacfalane 5 лет назад +1

    Total class,what a laugh

  • @stegross
    @stegross 5 лет назад +2

    Videos are class mate looking forward to the gypsy king

    • @youngkirk1
      @youngkirk1 5 лет назад

      A wouldn't get your hopes up