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  • Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
  • This month in Hall of Forms in Fire Emblem Heroes we have F!Alear, Alfred, Celine & Chloe from Fire Emblem: Engage. I give analysis & FEH builds for these Forma units and the best skills you can get from HoF to get most value out of your Forma Soul.
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    0:00 New Skills in HoF
    0:18 F!Alear Forma
    4:02 Chloe Forma
    7:47 Rearmed Alfred Forma + WARNING!
    11:02 Celine Forma
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Комментарии • 215

  • @Pheonixmaster1
    @Pheonixmaster1  29 дней назад +66

    Your favorite Engage unit to use in FEH?
    EDIT: At 5:15, it turns out that officially Chloe cannot get Arcane Qiang, sorry for the confusion!

    • @zeldaarmy8630
      @zeldaarmy8630 29 дней назад +1

      For me it's Lapis. I'm so close to +10 merging her. Even though godswords suck, I don't care.

    • @DavidHutchinson0713
      @DavidHutchinson0713 29 дней назад +2

      *_LAPIS BABEH!_* My first ever +10 LMAO, I will always cherish Alcryst's potato girl, ALWAYS
      Ivy and Hortensia are also fun tho

    • @texasgaming7457
      @texasgaming7457 29 дней назад +6

      Citrinne cuz you get a buff, he get a buff, she get a buff everyone get a buff!

    • @Bulbasaur617
      @Bulbasaur617 29 дней назад +1

      Other then the Alears, my favorite has to be Ivy since I manage to finally get one of my favorite characters from Engage.

    • @AlearsHusband
      @AlearsHusband 29 дней назад +2

      Absolutely, F!Alear and L!F!Alear. The latter being my first legendary +10, i love her a lot!

  • @KevinLi3903
    @KevinLi3903 29 дней назад +152

    I really hope that people get the message that forma rearmed units cannot be inherited, the potential to brick an entire fodder factory is absolutely dangerous, luckily Alfred is a super undesirable fodder factory so the damage should be minimal but I can already see the inevitability of people merging without this information

    • @regulusking4299
      @regulusking4299 29 дней назад +9

      @@lapniappeyeah Etie would’ve been better bc at least this wouldn’t have happened. Forma rearms feel worthless and effectively worse than the regular unit

    • @reishiki8682
      @reishiki8682 29 дней назад +2

      ​@@lapniappe...then why bother getting him at all if his sole purpose is just warming the bench?

    • @magicball3201
      @magicball3201 29 дней назад

      ​@@reishiki8682I mean, what's the difference between a PRF-less demote who's already been out classes by a newer demote and Alfred?
      I think the bigger reason we got Alfred was an excuse to put a rearmed unit on a banner because they sell (especially as I don't believe HoF does not have a spark, aka more spending?)

    • @EduardoRedoschi
      @EduardoRedoschi 28 дней назад +1

      I have Alfred with fodder from WDimitri and WYunaka.
      had 3-4 of him and this is how I gave him value, so definitely not getting a forma to lose the potential for more inheritance of those skills (still have 1 copy left for merging from the Hero Fest)

    • @reishiki8682
      @reishiki8682 28 дней назад +1

      ​@@magicball3201His value dwindles the better bandaid weapons come out, since his sole worth is "getting copies to refresh your fodder mule usage", while the demote you can ignore entirely or build them up for self-serving passion projects even if they'll be obsolete within a week or two.
      No matter how much you spin it, Alferd's sole value is in the end just being a fodder mule.

  • @mysticshade3831
    @mysticshade3831 28 дней назад +37

    Everyone important news: It's confirmed that IS worded the announcement terribly.
    Chloe cannot get arcane Qiang, and by extension. Only the rearmed unit can get the arcane weapon.
    They somehow managed to make rearmed/echo formas even more worthless...

    • @AjenLarod
      @AjenLarod 28 дней назад

      You need to be top comment

  • @ThiefofRPGistheWanderingSoul
    @ThiefofRPGistheWanderingSoul 29 дней назад +82

    Unfortunate that Alfred is not a free fodder factory, but cool for all Chloe fans. Tempted to get Celine, but unless I find her super fun I don't think I'll go for it

    • @reishiki8682
      @reishiki8682 29 дней назад +2

      Not like she even wants his bandaid weapon lol, so that's a very hollow placebo effect.

    • @tanachisan
      @tanachisan 28 дней назад +1

      But if Alfred would be inheritable forma you could be able to give him anything very much rare and and for a forma soul IS would swim in money even these some people who usually don't buy would commit it because its a guaranteed obtain of a unit and with only 1 forma but yeah IS only mostly care to implement more things that would be not that satisfying and a slight satisfying emblem units who are only satisfying because emblem effect and Like is just broken and 90% unbeatable

    • @Namriel
      @Namriel 23 дня назад

      I don't understand why it should be an issue ?
      Rearmed heroes can be used as soon as acquired, regardless if we have a forma one, can't we ? Once the acquired unit shared his skills, he can then join the forma one.
      Besides, if a rearmed + forma hero cannot inherit, it doesn't matter thanks to the power creep : his uniqueness comes from being able to share his abilities once and any new one can do so anyway. I never empower ancient units so I really don't see why it should be an issue.

  • @luis70450
    @luis70450 29 дней назад +46

    Fire Emblem Heroes, but the only special allowed is No Quarter

  • @M4SKED2001
    @M4SKED2001 29 дней назад +71

    This is a great Forma batch, only downside is that Alfred is literally bait for everyone

  • @MadCrashSJ
    @MadCrashSJ 29 дней назад +26

    Another skill that is exceptionally worth considering for Chloé is Deadly Miasma. That skill is so wildly good that it's honestly crazy it doesn't get more attention. Deadly Miasma is the biggest reason that Attuned Caeda struggles against fliers more than any other movement class.

    • @IscAst4
      @IscAst4 29 дней назад +4

      No

    • @CasualFehPlayer-rf6sl
      @CasualFehPlayer-rf6sl 29 дней назад +3

      Sorry to say but Deadly Miasma is for ranged flies only.

    • @PurpleShift42
      @PurpleShift42 29 дней назад +13

      ​@@CasualFehPlayer-rf6sldefinitely not, I just checked and you can indeed inherit Deadly Miasma from someone like Attuned Ivy to a melee flier like Attuned Peony
      (additionally, I did get a Dancer Eldigan forma with Deadly Miasma last HoF revival, mostly because he's a grail unit)

    • @CasualFehPlayer-rf6sl
      @CasualFehPlayer-rf6sl 29 дней назад +2

      @@PurpleShift42 oh ok thanks for correcting me I must have missed read.👍🏼

    • @PurpleShift42
      @PurpleShift42 29 дней назад +12

      @@CasualFehPlayer-rf6sl no problem! It _has_ only come out on two tome flyers so far, so I get that you might've been confused by that

  • @jonassilva2099
    @jonassilva2099 29 дней назад +20

    Alfred in HoF lore be like: "Finally the final merge for my +10 Rearmed hero, right? Right? 😢" (or how to mess with your whole skill fodder inheritance with one single mistake)

  • @michaelf2302
    @michaelf2302 29 дней назад +11

    Summer Freyja for HoF would be amazing since i have her with Arcane Nihility and beast sense 4, but not the most premium fodder elsewhere

  • @MoTheGuy
    @MoTheGuy 29 дней назад +5

    Thanks for the insight with explanation.
    As a support units fans, Celein is appealing to me especially with the listed options you covered.
    Gonna try for her optimal skills and then try for Alear's if i had enough torches!

  • @texasgaming7457
    @texasgaming7457 29 дней назад +15

    I'm all in for Chloé, let's go for that premium build

    • @keithbassett007
      @keithbassett007 29 дней назад

      Do you think Wyvern Rift worth it If I will only have a +1 Chloe vs Guard Bearing?

    • @BlueElthunder57
      @BlueElthunder57 29 дней назад +5

      Chloé mains unite!

  • @DarkStallion117
    @DarkStallion117 29 дней назад +3

    This is the video I've been waiting for

  • @stevethompson9150
    @stevethompson9150 29 дней назад +4

    Im glad this adds in dragon's roar i think it was called to the hof pool of skills now just have to wait for a hof to have a useful dragon for it

  • @Jedidiah_McCain
    @Jedidiah_McCain 29 дней назад +5

    More like Timingmaster1! I was just wondering what skills would be best for Alear and Chloe.

  • @UAshton5090
    @UAshton5090 29 дней назад +3

    I'll definitely be going for Chloe. She quite a bit of fun to use. Though I am looking forward to next months HoF. I don't remember all of the previous units that showed up already, but there's a lot of FEH units I'd be willing to pull for regardless.

  • @Natzilla10
    @Natzilla10 29 дней назад +7

    Pretty excited for this HoF! I get to finally pick up a Chloe. That tempest trials banner back in March definitely did me dirty…

    • @not_hockeym4n
      @not_hockeym4n 29 дней назад +1

      Same I got a 5 star Cordelia from it

    • @Natzilla10
      @Natzilla10 29 дней назад

      Yeah, I got two five star Cordelia’s, 😞.

  • @okapi_q
    @okapi_q 29 дней назад

    F!Alear is one of my favorites so I’m excited to get her some updated skills!

  • @ZyroX_24
    @ZyroX_24 29 дней назад +8

    Quite unfortunate that Alfred will brick your current copy if you decided to merge him up, I suppose this nails the concept of Formas never being able to be foddered.
    On the flipside, Chloe getting a free Arcane weapon is sweet even though her Prf still holds up well. Definitely getting a copy of her, thanks for the build suggestions PM1!

    • @vgmaster02
      @vgmaster02 29 дней назад +1

      I mean...it means Alfred is on the banner itself. Just pull more copies there if you want more. That's the only good side to this.

    • @ZyroX_24
      @ZyroX_24 29 дней назад +2

      @@vgmaster02 Or IS could have just made an exception for Rearmed units and made them be fodderable. I don't think anyone is happy that Forma Alfred is locked(and can lock your base Alfred) from being chain fodder.
      Him being in the banner doesn't help the case since given the choice, people would prefer not to summon (especially since he's colorsharing with Chloe).

    • @vgmaster02
      @vgmaster02 29 дней назад

      @@ZyroX_24 And that stopped them from pulling for him on his debut banner? He fucking shared with Chloe then, too. Nobody bitched back then. And it was datamined that Rearmed forma units CANNOT BE FODDERED. Forma rearmed units are LITERALLY USELESS. So just suck it up and pull on the banner to get him. Cause that's clearly what IS wants you to do.

    • @reishiki8682
      @reishiki8682 29 дней назад

      ​@@ZyroX_24So much copium it's hilarious. As if I$ would let you do something that they never intended in the first place, the players "did it for their own benefit" and I$ will milk you for all its worth, they ain't gonna let you do it for free kekw.

    • @tanachisan
      @tanachisan 28 дней назад

      But guys why even bother on all that when emblem Ike and duo Lyon still just destroy everything if you play duo Lyon carefully that is but emblem Ike is designed for enemy phase that you just park on the front and let the sweep goes on...I'm not saying everything is useless because this Ike just eats it all but its like if rearmed Alfred would be inheritable forma you give some demote or like not exactly demote a skills that Alfred can equip but the unit you gave it too still can't beat Ike it's a bit like pointless unless you could charge no quarter and hit twice I believe it would beat him🤔

  • @moreOddThanNess
    @moreOddThanNess 29 дней назад +1

    I got Alfred for the Arcane lance but he has been so wonderful to use in content over the months, especially limited abyssals of course.

  • @BlueElthunder57
    @BlueElthunder57 29 дней назад +1

    I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! I will FINALLY have Chloé at +10 with the forma!!! Definitely will go for the reccomended build here. Arcane Qiang is a nice bonus. More options, the better. Also thinking of getting Céline as I use her so much. She could use a better kit...
    I HOPE Summer Freyja is gonna be on next month's Hall of Form. That'd be an instant pickup! More merges and a better kit for her! I can get her Arcane Nihility, just gonna wait on what skill I could get her IF she is there. And her refine ain't comming until like November 2026 or something ridiculous at this rate, still 2 and a half years from now...Yikes...

  • @Greideren
    @Greideren 29 дней назад +3

    The fact that Alfred won't be able to pass any more skills if he's a Forma Soul sucks but there is one positive of rearmed units being in HoF: They get to appear on yet another banner with spark! That way you can get another merge or 2 with relative ease.
    Sure, they might take a spot that a better unit could use, but a rearmed appearing is probably still better than the other trash picks we get every once in a while.

  • @OmarTSV
    @OmarTSV 29 дней назад

    Oh damn, I'm tempted to go for almost all of them. I think I'm going to focus on Alear and Chloe however since I've used them the most.

  • @kainingyao7873
    @kainingyao7873 29 дней назад +3

    Finally, I can summon one of my favorite Engage waifus, Chloe, without the hassle of summoning or inheriting top tier skills. I also though about getting Celine as well, but too bad I only have 1 Forma Soul left, so I'd choose whoever's got the better build by the end, though I'd prioritize Chloe for being a fav of mine.

  • @matthewcab67
    @matthewcab67 29 дней назад +1

    definitely picking up Chloe here, i have her at +3 so getting her with a new build is going to be nice

  • @PenguinWithInternetAccess
    @PenguinWithInternetAccess 29 дней назад +2

    Tempted to get either Alear or Chloé, I have them both with Alear at +1 and while they're not my favourite characters giving them good skills could be nice

  • @Tomouryu
    @Tomouryu 29 дней назад +1

    YEESSS. I've been waiting for a chance to get Selene. I have exact one Forma left.

  • @Estheriam
    @Estheriam 22 дня назад

    My Alear already had A/S Finish 4.
    But I managed to get A/S Prime, Potent, and A/S Pledge on the Forma. So merging it. And if the upcoming Mythic and New Heroes are not Goldmary from Engage, I might go in on the HOF banner just for some Alear copies to hope for +10.

  • @Sneasling
    @Sneasling 29 дней назад +2

    I was really hoping for New Years Ash and/or Elm for Heroes HoF, but once they moved Gunnthra to May and I realized all three ice sibling legendaries were rerunning that month, it hit me that with how many legendary/mythic Heroes OCs there are, they're probably gonna dominate the Heroes HoF from here on out...

  • @glitteringgabriel
    @glitteringgabriel 29 дней назад +2

    If summer freyja is next month we busting out the forma souls🔥🔥🔥 also hrid my goat gotta get another alt already

  • @fimbulvetr6129
    @fimbulvetr6129 29 дней назад +2

    I really like Céline, so despite the fact I have too many infantry green mages (and too many well invested green mages), I’m probably going for her

  • @GuranPurin
    @GuranPurin 29 дней назад

    Will definitely be picking up F!Alear for a merge. Alfred is debatable since I already have a copy available for foddering so it would be nice to get a version with busted skills for personal use. So he would have to really be worth the Forma.

  • @Raharu95
    @Raharu95 27 дней назад +3

    Is Potent 4 a good B skill for Chloe? I have a option between Potent 4 and Wyvern Rift and I'm not sure which to get xD My Chloe isn't high merge

    • @Pheonixmaster1
      @Pheonixmaster1  27 дней назад +3

      Pick Potent 4 then! Wyvern Rift is only really useful with Max flowers and merges.

  • @jblen
    @jblen 29 дней назад +1

    Def res scowl, canny fighter and dragon roar is going to make the next armour dragon forma crazy. I mean it's basically just v!myrrh but they can be a near save too.

  • @slateportraichu5416
    @slateportraichu5416 29 дней назад +1

    Thank you for the builds! Chloe is a nice pick. But I'm not getting any forma this time.

  • @joanlopa15
    @joanlopa15 29 дней назад

    What do you think about distant def/res (ninja zelg) for chloe with that kit? I have mine at +10 and SS, shes hitting 54 spd. Dist D/R can help her meet wyvern rift requirement and also give more res for true dmg reduc

  • @JustAndrewIsFine
    @JustAndrewIsFine 29 дней назад +15

    I wonder how many people are going to brick their Alfreds with this forma...

    • @Julius_Strife
      @Julius_Strife 29 дней назад

      That is the best way to phrase it

  • @melomarianne
    @melomarianne 29 дней назад +1

    Thanks for going over the Engage HoF. I wonder how frequently they'll want to put Rearmed Units in them.

    • @BlueElthunder57
      @BlueElthunder57 29 дней назад +1

      Probably not very often. Outside of games that are really out of options like Thracia or something...We might see Duos or Harmonized units in the future though. As some games are really running out of options..."looks at Shadows of Valentia, Thracia, Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, maybe Sacred Stones even".

    • @reishiki8682
      @reishiki8682 29 дней назад

      ​@@BlueElthunder57Lol, they'll do it often to tempt the suckers to dump money on the accompanying banner, not their worthless forma.

  • @TheHierophantGreen
    @TheHierophantGreen 29 дней назад

    Alas i can get my Alear and Chloe max invested as for somwone who doesnt get lucky enough with fodder units i see this as an absolute win
    Ps a summer freyja or any gunnthra for next round would be just amazing

  • @mundanephysics521
    @mundanephysics521 29 дней назад +2

    I know people are let down Alfred isn't free forma fodder, but I think I'll go for him, as I enjoyed Alfred in Engage a lot! Loved making this weak little cavalier prince cause a bloodbath on his wyvern with Hector late game.

  • @amandagreene4990
    @amandagreene4990 27 дней назад

    I used about 70 orbs I think and I was able to get my first Chloe, along with some other 5* units. I might have 2 forma souls I've been saving, so maybe I'll use one. 😄

  • @deadinscyde
    @deadinscyde 29 дней назад +1

    Celine my beloved, time to give her the best skills ever

  • @LinkstaLink
    @LinkstaLink 29 дней назад +3

    PM1, i doubt summer freyja would be there if they're going to all the nifl siblings except ylgr. I feel like they'd put summer nifl there instead because A) that'd make 2 magical and 2 physical and B) would fit in with the nifl siblings

    • @Pheonixmaster1
      @Pheonixmaster1  29 дней назад +4

      Yes, very valid to suggest that. S!Freyja mainly is there due to Divine Codes. They can very easily do S!Nifl and people will get her with pre-combat damage skills.

  • @jasonyankovec8541
    @jasonyankovec8541 28 дней назад

    First Forma in a while where I wanted all of them.

  • @lacechan
    @lacechan 29 дней назад

    Hmm I'm going to go for either Chloe or Celine.. maybe both. Those are my two highest merged of the batch.

  • @Pwn3540
    @Pwn3540 19 дней назад

    If i do choose Wyvern Rift as my B for Chloe whats the best A skill to pair with that

  • @ajtriforcegamerofhyrule8538
    @ajtriforcegamerofhyrule8538 29 дней назад

    I might build another Alfred but a speed one

  • @CobaltYoshi27
    @CobaltYoshi27 29 дней назад +1

    I am saddened a bit that D Bonus Doubler isn't present, but I still plan on getting both Alear and Chloe since I kept summoning them and they're fairly highly merged now.

  • @josephlouis4590
    @josephlouis4590 29 дней назад

    Seeing how cool is Chloé's build, I know that I'll be tempted to use a Forma on her (I'm a sucker for flier units and HoF only makes it worse).

  • @dagger341
    @dagger341 29 дней назад +1

    Hmm, now that we are seeing a sudden surge of love for Loki, in the FEH channel, what do you think the odds of Loki being the colorless pick are? Pretty good, or unaffected?

  • @Yarharsuperpirate
    @Yarharsuperpirate 29 дней назад

    I feel the best way they could handle rearmed forma fodder is adding 2 things
    -Not allowing it on an unmerged forma. So you don't get a free round of fodder, but merges will allow it, and open the possibility of merging fodder mules into a forma
    -Skills obtained via hall of forms cannot be foddered off. Only ones you inherited to him directly

    • @reishiki8682
      @reishiki8682 29 дней назад

      ...then why add it in the first place if you can't benefit from it because the unit themselves is totally ass?

    • @Yarharsuperpirate
      @Yarharsuperpirate 29 дней назад

      @@reishiki8682 Hall of Forms has always been a mode for decking out characters you personally like. A majority of those who show up in the mode are extremely outdated and has no hopes of being relavent. If your using this mode to get someone meta relavent, you won't find any.
      And Alfred is decently popular among the Engage roster.

    • @reishiki8682
      @reishiki8682 28 дней назад

      ​​@@YarharsuperpirateWhich is, what, a minority among a minority? Even if i liked a unit that much I won't turn my brain off for favoritism because i can deck out a singular copy full of skills that'll be invalidated within a week or two *cough*Primes*cough*. In the end it's just for vanity purposes.

  • @Echoes-dz2ur
    @Echoes-dz2ur 28 дней назад

    Im getting Chloe and Alfred because for Firene

  • @thel-iteralone4592
    @thel-iteralone4592 29 дней назад +6

    It's one thing that you can't fodder rearmed formas to other units, but the fact that you permanently lose out on being able to fodder any other skills on the original copy if you merge that forma is a very nasty side effect from this that essentially kills any reason to use forma souls on rearmed units aside from if you really like that unit. Chalk this up to yet another Baka Systems moment.

  • @keithbassett007
    @keithbassett007 29 дней назад +2

    Is wyvern Rift worth it If I will only have a +1 Chloe vs Guard Bearing?

    • @jaredkrater167
      @jaredkrater167 27 дней назад

      Guard bearing for sure. You won’t meet the stat check for most match ups.

  • @CRod840
    @CRod840 28 дней назад

    Well, I was excited for this HoF. When I saw Alfred I thought my Sharena could finally get a huge boost. Then this video reminded me how Formas work and now I’m back to just clear the event and move on. Ughh

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 29 дней назад +1

    14:14 I would replace Summer Freya with Brave Veronica.

  • @TheShinyTresasLW
    @TheShinyTresasLW 29 дней назад

    Anybody know an estimate for summer freyja's refine?

  • @pinkyclaudie5450
    @pinkyclaudie5450 29 дней назад

    S!Freyja would be amazing. I have decent merges on her but her build is a tad outdated, so HoF would allow me to premium her up

  • @3xpoc3nt3r
    @3xpoc3nt3r 28 дней назад

    This might be a dumb question, but anyone know if you already have an Alfred that still has the arcane inheritance available, if I merge it to a forma Alfred will I be able to use that arcane inheritance still?

    • @kaycoby3850
      @kaycoby3850 24 дня назад

      No, the Forma Units cannot be inherited from.

  • @gameguym3275
    @gameguym3275 29 дней назад

    I called Alfred being in this batch with Chloe! But I’m going for Celine since she’s the unit I wanted since she came out. I’d have maybe gone for Falear but since we got the male one free she isn’t as unique

  • @mrrichprewitt
    @mrrichprewitt 21 день назад

    Why not Potent 4 for Chloe?

  • @Average-00
    @Average-00 28 дней назад

    I already have +10 alear with her base set. Is a forma worth the skills?

    • @Ken-2.0
      @Ken-2.0 28 дней назад

      I think new skills would benefit her alot because she doesn't have good special base

  • @ManEatingTeddyBear
    @ManEatingTeddyBear 29 дней назад

    Guess I'm going to say goodbye to a huge chunk of my Forma Souls lmao

  • @TheCherryTrader
    @TheCherryTrader 27 дней назад

    i been trying to get “no quarter” for alear but it doesnt appear. i been spamming chamber 25. is there any strat or is it all rng?

    • @Pheonixmaster1
      @Pheonixmaster1  27 дней назад +2

      No strat for it sadly, it's all RNG! :(
      Hope you can get no quarter soon!

    • @TheCherryTrader
      @TheCherryTrader 27 дней назад

      @@Pheonixmaster1 thanks so much for replying! you really are the best gaming community pillar i know.

  • @Dakress23
    @Dakress23 29 дней назад +1

    Oh boy I just know people are gonna waste their Formas on Alfred expecting he'll be able to share whatever fodder he gets in Hall of Forms into other units.

  • @eddygarza7132
    @eddygarza7132 29 дней назад +1

    I hope next uptade add gold in the game

  • @glitteringgabriel
    @glitteringgabriel 29 дней назад +1

    I just think it shouldve been 4* like etie or lapis, but oh well

  • @toxicstar5405
    @toxicstar5405 29 дней назад

    Honestly would have preferred to see Etie.

  • @SlenderDX1530
    @SlenderDX1530 29 дней назад +1

    I wish there was a way to get a free forma soul beside in summoner duel or get 3 celestial soul to exchange...zzz why is Summer frejya there T_T

  • @ChickenNugget-di3fl
    @ChickenNugget-di3fl 29 дней назад

    If I have a summer Freyja +2 and I would get her as a forma, will forma Freyja be +3 or will she be +1?

    • @PurpleShift42
      @PurpleShift42 29 дней назад +1

      She should be +3 if you merge the +2 copy into the forma.

  • @AlfredKamon
    @AlfredKamon 29 дней назад +2

    10:58 y'all I know that deep down you're big Alfred fans, get him!!

  • @mysticalsunrise2203
    @mysticalsunrise2203 29 дней назад +7

    As someone with a +10 Céline I disagree with this build entirely
    I use her in Arena every week and for all ingame content and her best build is
    Joyous Tome
    Rally Atk/Spd+
    Flare
    Still Water 4
    Atk/Spd Ruse 4
    Def/Res Ploy 3
    Still Water 3/Phantom Res 3
    Her Res is high enough to consistently ploy, even at +0 and her offences aren’t good enough to focus into. She’s a pure support unit.

    • @vgmaster02
      @vgmaster02 29 дней назад

      "Her Res is high enough to consistently ploy, even at +0"
      Says the guy using a +10 copy. Also, like you're the be-all-end-all speaker for units. Not everyone builds her like you do, so stop being a fucking asshole and acting like you know everything about everything.

    • @AndzyGM
      @AndzyGM 29 дней назад

      You know I might use your build as a reference the only thing is that what does Phantom RES really do? I am still confuse on how that seal works

    • @FinnNoGensou
      @FinnNoGensou 29 дней назад +1

      for skills that compare stats in order for them to work, phantom skills add +10 to that stat only for the comparison (a 39 res unit versus a 48 res unit would win the stat check with a phantom res skill) ​@@AndzyGM

    • @mysticalsunrise2203
      @mysticalsunrise2203 29 дней назад +3

      @@AndzyGM Invisible +10 Res bonus when comparing skills.
      It’s not actually +10 to Res, but for Ploy 4 activating, it’s treated like it is.

    • @PurpleShift42
      @PurpleShift42 29 дней назад +2

      I sorta agree that Céline is mostly supportive but I dunno about the "enough Res to consistently Ploy even at +0" part - at base she has 38 res, with boon (which you're going to need to spend trait fruit on for Forma Céline) she has 41, and with Still Water 4 that's still only 48, 45 without the res boon.
      As for the seals, which you might not be guaranteed to have (or they might be used on somebody else), that's 50/53 with Still Water 3 seal, or an effective res of 55/58 with Phantom Res.
      Admittedly you'd be aiming to get SW4 on the forma so the investment cost there isn't really an issue, but like, there are better (F2P even!) dedicated ploy-bots. (Though I guess that's just what happens when you get powercrept within a year of your release?)
      Also, I wouldn't say her attack at +0 is that bad, especially for a F2P/F2P-ish player, it's just kinda mid.
      I usually use her as the Engage version of Legendary Guinivere though, and her spare copies are just sitting around as manuals 😅

  • @Mene0
    @Mene0 29 дней назад +1

    A bit dissapointing picks, but expected. They wouldn't give out the super busted units
    btw never noticed Chloe's spear stats were visible stats. Busted af
    And you almost got the line up. Only switching Alfred for Etie

  • @adar1873
    @adar1873 29 дней назад

    Libe- WHAT DID YOU SAY??

  • @3xpoc3nt3r
    @3xpoc3nt3r 29 дней назад +1

    Not v excited about this batch. I would really love an Ashnard Path of Radiance batch, now that he's a good unit to pair with emblem Ike I merged him up.

  • @qcop4921
    @qcop4921 29 дней назад

    My my....dangerous trap

  • @55yamy
    @55yamy 29 дней назад +1

    This is a skip for me. I'm waiting for the celestial stone shop to refresh to get a forma soul because I used my last one on Edelgard. I'm waiting to see what heroes hof will give us.

  • @Bulbasaur617
    @Bulbasaur617 29 дней назад

    If this Forma banner came a bit earlier, then I would've gone and forma for Alfred or Celine here. Thankfully I manage to get all of the units here. I'm gonna wait for the 3 Houses Revival Hall of Forms to come.
    I'll be looking forward to see you do a updated forma build video on that when it comes.

    • @PenguinWithInternetAccess
      @PenguinWithInternetAccess 29 дней назад

      Would that be the CYL4 hof revival ? Because I GOT to save for it if that's the case

    • @Bulbasaur617
      @Bulbasaur617 29 дней назад

      @@PenguinWithInternetAccess No. It's the one with Summer Ingrid, Summer Sylvain, Summer Dorothea, and Summer Lorenz in it. I pretty much have all the CYL 4 units without the forma builds. I'm already satisfied with them.

    • @PenguinWithInternetAccess
      @PenguinWithInternetAccess 29 дней назад

      @@Bulbasaur617
      Oh okay, that's still pretty nice though

  • @blankblank6214
    @blankblank6214 29 дней назад

    So can Alfred get his arcane weapon during his hall of forms run cuz normally you can't find the arcane weapons

    • @PurpleShift42
      @PurpleShift42 29 дней назад

      Yes lol, it's just not pointed out because it's the same in the forma build as in the base kit (at 10:06 you can see it on Alfred with a +Def refine)

  • @mneumvis
    @mneumvis 28 дней назад

    Hopefully they change it how the rearmed formas are working in terms of skill inheritance. Not being able to use a rearmed forma for skill inheritance is a big downside.

  • @tanachisan
    @tanachisan 28 дней назад

    Null C Disrupt isnt good for this alear or what?

  • @emersonmorgan3215
    @emersonmorgan3215 28 дней назад

    Can chloe even get arcane qiang in HoF? I spent every torch and 1st kill on her and it didn't appear once. Other people have had the same thing too. If so, rearmed units are even more pointless unless you love that character

    • @AjenLarod
      @AjenLarod 28 дней назад

      No, she can't. Just Alfred get his arcane.

  • @a-j-o-l-o-t-3
    @a-j-o-l-o-t-3 27 дней назад

    Is there a chance we get Líf or Ganglot next month? they are not even that good neither their weapons...
    3 Legendaries feels very unreal, but who knows? They are really bad and maybe they just want to take them off of the waiting line

    • @Pheonixmaster1
      @Pheonixmaster1  27 дней назад +1

      Yes, it can be possible. Rearmed Units are going to be a thing going forward and they love putting R!Lif everywhere so it maybe so that he is in that HoF.

  • @jblen
    @jblen 29 дней назад

    It wouldnt be so bad if alfred just didn't have a fodder charge, but the fact he makes any other alfred become unfodderable is a real issue that a lot of people will suffer from. The feh channel was their chance to at least make it really obvious that you won't be able to use this forma like a rearmed unit, but they didn't even mention it.

  • @myselfalex15
    @myselfalex15 27 дней назад

    I don’t think wyvern rift works on Chloé I mean her defense stat is okay, or unless I’m doing it wrong but I do prefer Gambit or potent or that skill Valentian Est got for her B skill even tho it’s not a four tier skill.

    • @Pheonixmaster1
      @Pheonixmaster1  27 дней назад +1

      Rift works at higher investment since her prf gives her visible stats. She can make full use of it at higher investment and get Flat DR. Sadly, Potent & Guard Bearing 4 give piercable DR but they work at low invest.

    • @myselfalex15
      @myselfalex15 26 дней назад

      I see well I don’t think I noticed anything different since I had that skill equipped on her, and she didn’t take any damage reduction. Since my Chloe got Distant D/R solo, and S/D rein snap, but I changed my C Skill for Deadly Misama but whenever I tried to do everything to meet the quality to make her Wyvern Rift work, unless I’m doing it wrong

  • @mightylotan
    @mightylotan 28 дней назад

    You and FEHology have very different Alfred builds; I dont' know whats best

  • @justaman9344
    @justaman9344 29 дней назад

    It's unfortunate that Alfred can't be used for fodder, it's even worse for people who have him as a merge project since they would have to redeem this forma and keep it until they have a +9 Alfred through summons if they are also planning to use those copies to pass on fodder, which they likely are considering the unique inheritance mechanics of Rearmed (and attuned) units.
    The HoF banner should be sparkable with Alfred there so there's that at least.

    • @PurpleShift42
      @PurpleShift42 29 дней назад

      It's worse than that for Alfred: you can technically merge allies past +10 (they just won't level up) and rearmed/attuned heroes can refresh their inheritance via merging even past +10. So there's no point in bricking Alfred at +10 since you can merge into him forever!

  • @SpectralDynamite
    @SpectralDynamite 29 дней назад +2

    As much as I want to upgrade my Alear, I gotta wait for Fjorm next month. Been holding out for months to get a chance get some good skills on her 'cause man does she need the help. My fear is that Ascended Laegjarn will also be available in the same batch, 'cause then I GOTTA pick her up too. The problem is that Brave Tiki might show up the following month and I'm trying to build her up too... and I'll only have 2 souls to use by that point, including the free one via the Celestial Stone shop refresh.
    Need IS to take pity on me.

    • @BlueElthunder57
      @BlueElthunder57 29 дней назад

      And next month you can get her Laguz Friend, as it's gonna be available by then. A big game changer for Fjorm.
      Also, I don't think Brave Tiki is gonna show up on a Shadow Dragon Hall of Forms as she is an Awakening unit. So, there is nothing to fear.

    • @SpectralDynamite
      @SpectralDynamite 29 дней назад

      @@BlueElthunder57 Damn. You're right. I completely forgot. Thank god. I won't have to gamble with how her refine turns out then. That's a load off my shoulders.
      Downside, I can't get Ploy or Dragon's Roar on her anytime soon. 😭

  • @samkeiser9776
    @samkeiser9776 28 дней назад

    Idk if Chloé can actually get Qiang.

  • @mightylotan
    @mightylotan 28 дней назад

    I like Alfred though 😢

  • @NugeSmashFE
    @NugeSmashFE 11 часов назад

    13:45 Sucks that they cheated us out of Fjorm. Also feels weird to say you got 2 out of 4 right since those three were all but confirmed until they delayed Fjorm.

  • @Surge_N_Destroy
    @Surge_N_Destroy 29 дней назад

    Having an arcane weapon means that prf skills will no longer appear after you have it equipped and it will never show up if you have a prf skill equipped in hall of forms.

    • @PurpleShift42
      @PurpleShift42 29 дней назад

      OTOH, Chloé's only Prf skill is her weapon, and since Rearmed and Attuned heroes can equip an inherited arcane weapon &/or attuned skills at the same time as their own Prf skills (it's in both of the notifications about Rearmed and Attuned Heroes), Alfred should still have Self-Improver show up, even if he has Arcane Qiang (as long as IS programmed the Hall of Forms correctly haha)

  • @kaycoby3850
    @kaycoby3850 29 дней назад +1

    As someone who does not do anything too strictly competitive in Feh, can someone explain fully what everyone is talking about by "bricking" Alfred? I'm so lost...

    • @23LOLZlolz
      @23LOLZlolz 22 дня назад

      The Alfred forma soul can't be used to pass his arcane weapon and skills to other units. And if you merge it to regular non-forma soul Alfred, he will brick them as well, as in that also your other Alfred units won't be able to pass skill to other units. So if you decide to go for his forma soul, make sure you keep him separated from your other Alfred, or merge them only once you already used them to pass their arcane weapon/skills

    • @kaycoby3850
      @kaycoby3850 21 день назад

      @@23LOLZlolz I understand all that, and thank you for the response, but why is everyone making a big deal out of it? Can't you just use the arcane folder before merging into the forma Alfred?

  • @Jugement
    @Jugement 28 дней назад

    Ah yes, PM1 pronouncing French (Libération). Music to my ears 🥰

  • @tecfrost4495
    @tecfrost4495 29 дней назад

    Watch the arcane weapon is bugged and not available in HoF. They'd never know because it's the first time it's happening

  • @WorldEaterZero
    @WorldEaterZero 24 дня назад

    Arcane weapon just got worthless for Forma sadge

  • @SapphicSara
    @SapphicSara 29 дней назад

    Snooze, see HoF like idk during Tellius time I guess. Really gonna be sittingo n these forma.

  • @mavi3147
    @mavi3147 29 дней назад

    I’ll get Alfred cause I trust IS will remove the inheritance restriction from Rearmed/Attuned

  • @heleno6917
    @heleno6917 29 дней назад +1

    To be honest i think they should have waited a bit before the Engage HoF, these units are too recent

  • @heroicxidiot
    @heroicxidiot 29 дней назад

    I feel like I should skip this HoF if next month's HoF is gonna be that stacked.

  • @Ssbb7777brawler
    @Ssbb7777brawler 29 дней назад

    Can’t wait to get my first Chloe, rearmed Alfred may have ruined my chances for her on the debut banner but it seems feh ruined him in hall of forms to make up for it.