I just got an eclipse 77 on Ebay. Haven't used it yet. Thanks for the video, it gives me much to think about and I think your knowledge is going to help out a lot.
This is a really good piece of information. Your suggestions are one of the most practical, logical and useful that I've seen on YT. When I started woodworking few years ago I've read a tutorial on how to set and sharpen a saw. The article said, as a general rule, to set the teeth overhang (on both side of the blade) to half of the thickness of the blade. It make sense to me now, after your explanation, because I believe ( I don't have so many saws to compare) that dovetail saw should have a blade more thin than a panel saw, and consequently the setting will be less on the thinner blade and more on the thick blade. I would really like to know your opinion on this "half the thickness" rule. Thanks for sharing.
th34lch3m1st It’s not a bad rule of thumb. But it doesn’t account for wood type, which can impact it as well. Softwoods typically require a hair more set than hardwoods. Not too big a deal in a dovetail saw but can be important in a long rip saw.
Make sure that you’re only setting half the tooth height. If the tooth is bending all the way to the bottom of the gullet, you need to adjust your saw set. The bend should only be from the tip to the middle of the tooth. It could also be your technique. Make sure that you’re just squeezing the saw set and not twisting it. Putting the saw as low in the vise as you can will also help.
Do you really think he doesn't know that? This video was to teach the audience on how to determine the right amount of set; and not "Gee, this saw won't cut. Oh wise commentors, please help me out".
I do not know Bill Elliot but I will bet dollars to doughnuts that he IS an engineer. But he is not an engineer who works in the field where has has to deal with real world item and problems and precision measuring devices such as a micrometer or similar tool will do nothing for the problem. I can say this because I am a retired Mechanical Engineer who spent years in the field working with those real world problems and learning a lot from mechanics, electricians, instrument technicians and operators about how things work (that I was not familiar with) as well as Company Service Representatives who were called in for jobs such as turbine overhauls (steam or gas), electric generators powered by those turbines, very large pumps and gas compressors driven by those turbines, adding vibration monitoring systems to existing pumps. All of which I used when I later worked for engineering firms which had engineers who had no idea how things were really done in the field or did know there were alternatives to their problems that could be done in three days instead of six months because an alternate solution using a different product that the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) was available that would to the same thing.
I just got an eclipse 77 on Ebay. Haven't used it yet. Thanks for the video, it gives me much to think about and I think your knowledge is going to help out a lot.
Thanks for this, I’m just learning to sharpen my own saws and this is very informative and helpful.
Great information as always Bob. Thanks.
This is a really good piece of information. Your suggestions are one of the most practical, logical and useful that I've seen on YT. When I started woodworking few years ago I've read a tutorial on how to set and sharpen a saw. The article said, as a general rule, to set the teeth overhang (on both side of the blade) to half of the thickness of the blade. It make sense to me now, after your explanation, because I believe ( I don't have so many saws to compare) that dovetail saw should have a blade more thin than a panel saw, and consequently the setting will be less on the thinner blade and more on the thick blade. I would really like to know your opinion on this "half the thickness" rule. Thanks for sharing.
th34lch3m1st It’s not a bad rule of thumb. But it doesn’t account for wood type, which can impact it as well. Softwoods typically require a hair more set than hardwoods. Not too big a deal in a dovetail saw but can be important in a long rip saw.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and glad to see other videos.
Awesome video, brother! Nice explanation.
Brilliant, this has been vexing me…
This is good, I’m just about to do some saws for the first time.
I keep a note book that I write down every thing I do to a saw once it gets to a sweet spot. Rake, fleam, set and with which set and setting.
Great information as always, thank you
As always, an informative and entertaining video 👴🏻🇦🇺
Thanks for this video,
Like your back ground music.
Great video, thank you!
Excellent
How do I prevent the body of the saw from twisting or bending when setting it's teeth. Thanks, Ernie Line
Make sure that you’re only setting half the tooth height. If the tooth is bending all the way to the bottom of the gullet, you need to adjust your saw set. The bend should only be from the tip to the middle of the tooth. It could also be your technique. Make sure that you’re just squeezing the saw set and not twisting it. Putting the saw as low in the vise as you can will also help.
So the first saw was set unevenly as well as too aggressive? A quick stoning of the side would have solved the uneveness.
Do you really think he doesn't know that? This video was to teach the audience on how to determine the right amount of set; and not "Gee, this saw won't cut. Oh wise commentors, please help me out".
I do not know Bill Elliot but I will bet dollars to doughnuts that he IS an engineer. But he is not an engineer who works in the field where has has to deal with real world item and problems and precision measuring devices such as a micrometer or similar tool will do nothing for the problem. I can say this because I am a retired Mechanical Engineer who spent years in the field working with those real world problems and learning a lot from mechanics, electricians, instrument technicians and operators about how things work (that I was not familiar with) as well as Company Service Representatives who were called in for jobs such as turbine overhauls (steam or gas), electric generators powered by those turbines, very large pumps and gas compressors driven by those turbines, adding vibration monitoring systems to existing pumps. All of which I used when I later worked for engineering firms which had engineers who had no idea how things were really done in the field or did know there were alternatives to their problems that could be done in three days instead of six months because an alternate solution using a different product that the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) was available that would to the same thing.