Pokemon Pro's Top 5 Pokemon To Beat Stall
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
- Stallbreakers, 2024
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0:00 Introduction
2:04 Knock Off
5:23 Gholdengo
7:25 Ogerpon-W
8:22 Slowking-G (Future Sight)
10:00 Honorable Mentions
11:16 Kingambit Игры
6:00 Gholdengo uses Nasty Plot
Galaxy Brain Garganacl uses Iron Defence
he’s trying to power up body press you wouldnt understand
@@CoolGuy-yk9kdand what good is that against ghold
@@robs9343it literally only has salt cure and bodypress. What else would it do
@@tarunyadav3567 switch??
@@robs9343 to who? All the other guys lose as well
Bring back the agency certified thumbnail
It just changed :(
Noted
Sadge tho, i liked the goofy nonprofessional thumbnail more
Agreed, I got word the agency will work on this
What is the original thumbnail ?
Stall cores after watching this videos “thanks”
Tbf every stall player worth their salt already knows which mons can beat their team, it's nothing new. This helps video others more than it helps stall.
Barely explains how to defeat stall in basic simple understandable terms which is utilizing mixed sets to whither down the core they have set up punishing them with a physical attack when they expected a special attack and switch into blissy
@@Razth3bar mixed sets are limited to like 3 mons in the metagame and only pult and kyurem really threaten stall with their mixed
@@wo-chien-reaction ok retard
Stall breaker togekiss was my favorite mon to just clean through stall. It’s a shame it’s no longer in the game.
Play National Dex Then
Can i ask for the moveset? And what it can beat?
@@maximilianomartincastrocor8883 its been years since I have used it so I dont remember the evs but the set was: nasty plot, air slash, heal bell, and roost. If you boost up enough you can even break through blissy with some flinches (not sure if it beats the new calm mind set he is talking about. Heal bell and roost made it so you couldn’t dies to passive damage that stall relies on.
@@rixrobin hmmm maybe works for nat dex, ghold and gambit are banned so i'm pretty doomed with archa as my only stallbreaker
Guts conkeldurr was my guy back in gen 8 stall days
Guts adamnt
Bulk up
CC
Knock off
MACH p.
Mixed iron valiant pretty good as well being both a phys and spec attacker while being able to taunt and destiny bond if you want.
facts. i have a semistall team with alomomola, gliscor, jirachi, blissey, val and dragapult, and basically i just spam statuses then get hex kills when possible. the val helps me break stall so well with just CC, knock off, moon blast and hex (tera ghost). as fast as it is, i can use it to sweep and clean up, or to pop in against other stall teams and click knock off and break weakened walls late game.
she can also use Trick
Ursaluna original is mine. WIllow wisp is everywhere on stall teams to handle phys, and so is unaware. Ursaluna has the shear DAMAGE and the coverage to handle even unaware, and forget statusing it.
Yeah, Ursaluna sounds extremely good against stall. Guts boosted Tera Normal Facade 2HKO's even bulky resists like Corviknight and Garganacl, and Dondozo also gets 2HKO'd. The fact that Ursaluna will always have Flame Orb to avoid other status conditions and always have Guts, which doesn't care about Unaware is fantastic.
Ursaluna is one of the best designed wallbreakers in a while imo.
The best stall team rn literally only has Poison Jab as a status inflicting move.
@@SeriousStrikerNo, it's a really badly designed wall breaker. Every wall breaker should have some decent defensive answers, even choice band paradox entei under sun has them. Luna normal + ground typing with fire/electric coverage is checked by nothing. Only way to beat it is by offensive checks.
@@overlord3481 But in exchange, Ursaluna has serious flaws. It constantly takes chip damage from burn, despite being bulky, it gets hit by common super effective coverage like Water, Fighting and Ice type attacks.
There's a reason it's in UU and not Ubers or OU.
@@The_VanniWhat is that team? Im surprised it'd lack Scald alomomola
5:24 HOLY SHIT THATS ME :D
The one using Iron Golem? Pretty sure I faced a user with that name when I played. I switched to older gens because I couldn't reach top 500 in OU. I also found that it takes more time to find a matchup opponent when you're that high on the ladder.
@@vanesslifeygoNah I’m the Porygon-Z guy
@@Duckularwhere I can’t tell
Oh now I see lol
Mr Craw is calling 📞📞📞
Choice Band Gouging Fire in the Sun is my favorite Stall breaker.
252+ Atk Choice Band Protosynthesis Tera Fire Gouging Fire Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dondozo in Sun: 252-297 (50 - 58.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
That calc is actually insane holy shit
@@kingambitrealholy shit it's him.
*Sword dances. Gets+2 physical attack and+1 speed*
Goated vid as always
Too late for last upload, too early for the next upload, but right on time for todays upload
I saw the thumbail change in realtime tho lmao
My all time favorite stall breaker was CB adamant baxcaliber for the time when he was legal
Yo that jungle joyride was hitting in the back
Imprison+transform is stallbreaking tactic that comes from Balanced Hackmons.
Basically it runs transform+imprison+infestation/block+utility move (usually knock off or recovery). You first trap the opponent with infestation/block. Second, you use imprison. Third, you use transform. The opponent now cannot use any move bc imprison will have locked out all their move now that you have transformed into them. Now you can use their utility move while they die from struggle+infestation damage, though you may need to put in an attack or two to finish them off.
This set has seen quite a lot of usage in BH, but also in gen8 Almost Any Abilities on magic bounce/prankster Mew. It must be noted that it still technically works in OU with mew, but you are very vulnerable to status and you must keep your life orb at all cost (imprison+knock off will help with that)
Warning: this is a gimmick. This strategy is not meta outside of Balance Hackmons.
I need the thumbnail with Chancey. Something about it is just... So very relatable.
Goated thumbnail and video
The Skarm in the thumbnail has my sides splitting. That's some goated Agency vibes right there.
Iron Valiant is also pretty good into stall. Close Combat for Blissey and Thunderbolt for Dondozo,Alomola,Corvikight. It just needs a partner who can deal with Gliscor, Clodsire and Clef. It can slot Knock off , encore and taunt.
The fact that they nerfed the absolute fuck out of stall while pushing hyper offense like never before this gen, and people are still struggling against it makes me wonder if stall players should just be put down at this point
if they nerfed the fuck out of it and people are still struggling against it that sounds like a skill issue
In this case it's just people playing Scissors into Rock. Not Rock being broken.
Stall is still the most reliable playstyle
stall is good against hyper offense though, it struggles more against balance teams. the pushing of hyper offense does not make stall worse, if not better.
YESS THANK YOU
stall player here: like freezai said, many stall cores are designed to cover many of the ideas, especially ghold and future sight. in my opinion, the best way to beat stall is to either target the terastalization of the stall team (like carry two threats that would require terastalization like ogerpon + psyshock hatt) or to power through the knock off absorbers. While clef/gliscor/hydrapple may stop knock off, they are either scared out(gliscor and hydra with ice) or can be overwhelmed/on the back foot consistently(clefable)
Also, future sight aint it. completely irrelevant with the double unaware core. protect blissey completely destroys it, and if you want to use it to beat stall, you need something else that requires tera AND the stall team needs to rely on tera to beat fsight.
Tera is the last thing making stall viable this gen, GG in 2025
More experienced stall player here, this man is speaking out their a**, gholdengo and future sight are both very capable of breaking stall unless you literally are too braindead to know how applying pressure to a single mon throughout a game will break it down and get a foot in the door.
@@sablesalt calm mind blissey completely shuts down gholdengo. only problem that comes from gholdengo is knock off + hazards, which can be stopped by gliscor/clef/steel mola (if you're desperate) Future sight can be shut down by a host of options: protect blissey, and basically any mon with tera steel: pex, mola, even physdef clef. Yes, gholdnego and future sight can help bust a team, stall teams are prepared for it and you still need to target the tera.
Also, unless ur a 2000 rated player, you are not a more experienced stall player.
@@stallempir3 yeah no you're fraudulent as hell if you are going to cite such a vacuum, plus you have no elo rating on ladder so cope
@@stallempir3 actually just found your rating, holy crud it's terrible bro how do I have 100 more elo when I don't even play the tier your running your mouth on? 💀
Hey guys i recommend You My favorite way to deal with stall use mix attacker dragapult with life orb: dragón darts for Blissey and Clodsire, Will o wisp or t-wave for dondonzo, Hex for Gliscor and Dondonzo if its burned or sleept and the fourth option can be whatever you like Substitute if they use a status move, Fire blast for Kingambit, dragon dance, Draco meteor You choose or U-turn for a safe switch.
hi thank you for this. i have not and probably never will touch competitive pokemon but i battle my friend alot and they often use competitive teams. i usually win anyways but i will keep this video in mind if they ever even think about using stall. but first i gotta focus on that flutter mane of theirs.
hi everyone it has been approximately 1 hour. i just battled my friend again. they used zacian, flutter mane, ogerpon, chi-yu, arceus, and another one i don't remember. it was not fun. my poor team of diancie, incineroar, primarina, lunala, toucannon, and froslass was decimated. i killed like 4 of their pokemon and burned their zacian but i still lost. i feel so bad for my poor diancie who's pretty bulky yet still died to the burned zacian's behemoth blade. she's my favorite pokemon on my team :(
Taunt, Dragon Dance, Mold Breaker, Tera Electric Haxorus is my favorite stall breaker.
tera fighting curse sleeptalk dondozo
I think the dondozo loses against this haxorus due to taunt. Unless its oblivious dondozo, in which case its a much weaker stallmon for the team in general 😅 lose-lose
@@makatuk93 toxic with gliscor while the haxorus is setting up and then switch into a fairy type on the outrage then pivot back to gliscor and protect stall repeat
Can he beat Goku tho ?
@@juliobrando6367 Like a crossover in Pokemon Horizons, a Haxorus vs Goku, Epic battle.
Future sight is my fav stall breaking method. I also love using weavile because knock off absorbers typically hate +2 triple accel
A Pokémon that also really helps is choice band rillaboom, it can 1-2 ohko a lot of stall mons and has knock off for corviknight and skarmory. And If you really hate stall you can also put terblast fire
One cool thing about Gholdengo as well is you can run a pure stallbreaker set with Psyshock! Blissey and Clodsire are the typical stops to Gholdengo on stall, and Psyshock plows through both of them, or forces them to use Tera Dark!
He mentions that
i love using future sight + acid spray on glowking. it beats unaware mons quite handily.
Acid Spray is an interesting move choice. I like it.
My fav stallbreakers in gen 6-7 were sub pangoro and subroost kyurem. Something about out-mathing the archetype designed to out-math you via substitute really does it for me
Learning to love hazards
That thumbnail is crazy 😂
W thumbnail
I really like the early 90s kids magazine art in the thumbnail.
Clefable is my favorite pokemon. I always run one with soft-boiled, cosmic power, stored power, and toxic. Its devestating with the magic guard ability. A slow setup that I know is annoying but the payoff is great once I'm hitting for 260 damage and taking less damage than my leftovers heals.
The rest of my team is not stall oriented, but its been very beneficial to have keep a Clefable for emergencies.
“Stall players are not stupid”
Yes, yes they are
Adamant banded hoopa unbound was my favorite wall breaker back on gen 7
obsessed with this thumbnail
6:37 calm mind blissey is actually a gen 3 tech, since the power level is a lot lower boltbeam cm bliss can be pretty powerful as a win condition, and for more defensive teams that need help against other cm sweepers it basically guarantees that you win the 1v1. you don't even need a bunch of attacks to make cm worth it, i've used cm, flamethrower, toxic, soft boiled bliss which basically destroys anything not named metagross
Seeing muk mentioned makes me warm (tho its part of the stall haha
I play exclusively stall so I have some thought on the video.
Dondozo usually can run a curse set which counters the kinggambit set, this complements nicely with its kit since it helps out vs physical walls anyway.
Tbh I think the vast majority of meta teams use knock off and that’s why I tend to run leftovers on my Pokemon and corviknight which is the better answer vs great tusk in most case.
Alolamola is difficult to use with dozo because they have the same typing and vulnerable to the same threats(ogerpon).
Clod is actually decent into goldengho if you run an earthquake set, you just have to pop the balloon first, Chansey also doesn’t need to run calm mind since shadow ball is also fine(also why I avoid seismic toss) this makes it better vs dragapult as well. The calm mind addition imo is usually because in the case you lose clod or it has a bad matchup into a certain special attack you can use calm mind chansey as a soft “unaware” to fill the gap.
Stall is bad in this gen and anyone who loses to it is honestly building their teams wrong. There is no stall core that doesn’t lose to at least one common wall breaker so you usually will get rolled if the person you’re vs has a braincells. It just shits on bad players who just want to play hyper offense with no utility in their team.
Mixed Iron Valiant with Moonblast CC Thunderbolt Psyshock with Tera Steel is pretty good into the most common iterations of stall cores and is good as a general use lategame sweeper as well.
You'll only have problems if they lategame Tera and your other checks/counters for that 'mon are dead or if they have unusual EV spreads. Or both in the case of Tera Water Super Specially Defensive Garganacle.
omg Freezai... the best spanish friend of the french community in 2010 !!! props to you
hated you for liking baton pass in early 5G, but props to you hahahaha
oh and you were mildly annoyed by me for mostly playing stall teams, I forgot about that hahaha
I used a Psycic terrain team with indeedee F with expanding force and psyshock and against stall it just kills everything, I also used life orb deoxis speed on that team with expanding force and superpower and it just ran through stall
That nostalgic thumbnail 😭
Back in the days of Hidden Power & Inflitrator, stall was rarely an issue.
Well this just makes me want to play stall
Problem is a lotta anti stall mons (wall breakers) can be pretty terrible against fast offensive teams (expect of course stuff like Gking and gold) like I sometimes use trapping moves like fire spin dnite which can catch stall off guard but that has 0 use Vs offense, stall creates a super annoying opportunity cost in team building
I approve of the choice to use Jungle Joyride!
You can use trick pecha berry gholdengo to permanently remove gliscor's healing ;)
Persim berry heals confusion
Pecha* berry but I never thought of that
It’s a meme going around rn
rock tera banded headsmash from hisuian arcanine shreds through stall like butter, and u just click flare blitz on the great tusk switch, its guarenteed 3 hit, 2 hit under sun.
Big Stall seething after this one
Gothitelle will always be my favourite anti-stall pokemon but I have to admit that Mixed Kyurem has been growing on me lately
I find pressure stall works pretty well right now.
I used sticky hold Hydrapple sometimes on stall to act as a Knock Off absorber, so knock off alone isnt enough
If you watched the first couple min of the video its literally the first point he makes...
Taunt: Allow me to introduce myself 😎
Gholdengo is a great choice scarf tricker because it itself cannot be tricked or taunted.
Idk about Gholdengo, walled by amnesia Clodsire which is common on stall
good
Acid spray H Goodra, tera water sword dance lando T, mix attack Kyurem, choice specs darkrai, choice specs keldeo, lati twins, stored power primarina and etc
Ogerpon is also countered by haze toxapex, and ferrothorn.
How do you get that thing where you hover your mouse over the pokemon, and it shows you possible movesets?
Not gonna lie these are all pretty ubiquitous examples. If anyone wants some Sauce, try Soul Dew DD EQ Draco Meteor x Latios. Crushes Clodsire, Unaware prevents DD from actually dropping your special, and your final move can tech whatever wlse your team needs. Levitate provides an additional ground immunity as well. Would recommend looking at some UU or lower mons when teambuilding, you’d be surprised at how strong some of those mons are when you find the proper niche
The move psyshock
Maybe tera ghost Heatran with Magma Storm + Taunt probably fits best in the honorable mention, being overall a better pokemon than volcanion for the most part
Yeah I'm shocked he never brought up Heatran. Historically the goat when it comes to dismantling stall
alomamola got flip turn in gen 9
I want one video on how to beat hyper offense teams
after this video i wanted to play with my Stall team... why is Audino banned in Ubers? it was in RU when i last checked :o (played last before the dlc was released)
When i think of anti stall mons, first thing that comes up in my mind is Galarian Weezing
Stall players scrambling to find counters
I play in nat dex and with ghold banned, stall is pretty dangerous when its hazard stack but i still got wallbreakers
Also hot take, test shaymin-sky in OU and nat dex
Focus Energy Waterpon is one of the best mons to beat stall teams
When will you post OU on freezai live
My stallbreaker is lum berry haxorus. Just switch in a special wall and swords dance. Dont need to fear t wave or will o wish cause of lum berry. Then one scale shot and its game. Unaware doesnt help against mold breaker.
You would think the amount of stall teams in different yearly metas would make Heal Block and other such moves much more common. Heck - I'm shocked we haven't had an ability that prevents healing altogether yet.
Heal Block just isn't good enough. If it blocked Regenerator it could have a niche.
Porygon 2 with Eviolite and Trace. Trust. This one pokemon covers, Gliscor, Regen, and unaware. He is the hidden uno reverse card.
We just gonna forget Tera grass heatran huh
as a ygo player it seems across many games people hate the "stun" type strategies.
Is that an itzgator thumbnail I see
Mold breaker sd drill used to be one
crawdaunt
Don't forget about taunt, encore, safeguard, our VGC saviors
Hoopa unbound choice band with 3 physical attack+psychic is SO good against stall, you are almost guaranteed a kill everytime you successfully switch it in.
The problem is that it's not so good against non-stall.
A good stall player will never switch dozo into a tusk if there is another physical threat. They will switchin gliscor on the knock and toxic + protect and scout for ice, if no ice spinner they sit on it, otherwise they go mola
Also the funny Clefable set with Sticky Barb to beat Proto Tusks
Freezai this is the third thumbnail you’ve cycled, just bring back the first
One name. Haxorus
Now make a video explaining how to play stall 🔥🔥
I read this as "bro explains how to beat stall"
choice band boom pokemon are really fun vs stall if you boom on the right turn
Ironically, I think gliscor is one of the best mons against stall because there is very little stall can do against it
Did the thumbnail change while i was washing the video?
PP stalling's my favourite way to stall. Anything else feels like just playing normally.
turn 1 forfeit always works for me
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You frogot mixed Attackers like iron val ,Deoxy speed and hoopa-U. Stored power hat , SPA Walking wake and four attack weavile aslo bet stall in my Opinion i dont think stall is not Worth running in gen9 Too many things beat it reliably .
Nothing feels better than watching a stall player swap into Blissey on a +6 gholdengo with psyshock.
Honestly I don't think I've lost too much to stall, rather I'm worse at stopping good offense.
stall isn't a problem anymore since it got heavily nerfed.
I hope gen 10 will nerf toxapex even further so it will not come anywhere near having a niche in OU.
It is said that stallers are weak to grass, that's why they inside and have enough time to play stall all day.
A funny trick is klutz lopunny.. all stall mons are slow giving lopunny a way to just wreck there item setups while sure lopunny is weak dont underestimate the power of pure chaos
This is why I like Salazzle. She won’t last long, but slap a Scarf on her she’ll get off at least 1 Toxic on a Steel or Poison wall before she goes down.
what is outspeeding salazzle in stall
@@BLUEBOYISLEDGE I more so meant in general, but, Touché.
I cannot stress how little this will do to even the most incompetent stall teams, this will just speed up losing.
@@sablesalt That’s a bit of vague assessment, not sure if I trust it
@@MotorcycleCheetah I am the maker of gen7's degenerator, I think I might know a thing considering I played an era where salazzle wasn't unheard of in ou.
how many times will you change the thumbnail