Preparing an Ameri-Barra Vortec 4200 for an 8 second Drag Car
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2022
- Today we prepare our 2002 Vortec 4200 DOHC VVT Inline 6 for our 1983 Ford Fairmont Futura. Then we will install it in the car with our Billet 7875 turbo. The goal with it is to try to go 8s in the quarter mile with it with a Stock Bottom End with upgraded cams.
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I love how you guys roll..Thanks for being down to earth sharing your knowledge and keeping it real..
That entire minute of strumming actually helped me stay focused lol and take notes
Thanks for the heads up on the VR1 oil. I noticed alot of guys also run schaffers oil but i had no idea the VR1 was alcohol friendly like schaffers. Amazon sells a case of 3 for $70, thats like $23 every 5 qt not bad at all for what you get.
Even though I'm building a brother Barra, I can appreciate you sharing all the things you have learned with others. And plenty of general info tips to help me out too!
Thanks for tuning in. Wish Barras were affordable over here.
Good stuff 👍
Enjoyed the video as always. Thanks to you! I went & looked at a 1962 2dr Lark yesterday. He had 2 for sale...2dr & a 4dr. They weren't bad but not quite as good as I hoped. Could of made one good one out of both...but didn't want to buy both to build one. Thumbs up on your video as always👍
Yeah. Larks are so cool. Thanks for watching
A tip for dealing with metal shavings, if you coat the tap/bit in grease, the shavings will stick to the grease and you won't lose as many. Definitely works better for taps, but does help with bits as well.
Good tip.
I like the pre oiler, nice setup
Thanks man. Use it all the time
You can also use play dough or medaling clay to check pickup tube to pan clearance if your scrap pile isn’t as well stocked as Calvin’s.
Good point.
And if you're in a jam on a Sunday (etc), Home Depot. Get some stuff called Duct Seal. It's like playdough for us big kids! Comes in a brick about the size of 2 packs of king sizes.
I found over decades that engines with filters facing down to the ground like on this engine tend to last longer as they are easier to add oil to on oil changes to help get oil faster on the fresh startups. This direction also logically allows particle filtration to work better than engines with side or other angled filters as every bit counts over the life of the engine.
Nice. Makes sense. Thank you for sharing!!
THE MORE YOU KNOW...mind blown. Next you'll tell us there's more than one type of alcohol.
Slow down there bud! Lol
Yeah, there's 2 types of alcohol: drinking alcohol and racing alcohol. 😜
As smart as you guys are and as much as you work with these engines you would benefit from adding a “window “ on the chain cover similar to what Honda K-motors have to reset/replace the chain tensioner.
I like VR1 or Brad Penn. 👌
Fancy/sloppy mechanics. I like it!!
Since we're all el-cheapo's deep down (some more, some less!) - if you want a pre-oiler of your own, grab a 1 or 2 gallon garden sprayer (HomeDespot brand ones work as good as any). Hack off the wand, and stuff a barb fitting in the hose. Use an adapter or modify a plug (drill/tap) to plumb in up front. Now just fill the thing up with your fav' slippery juice and pump it up! Think it cost me $15 to make mine and it works like a charm.
Hm. I wouldn't think you could get enough pressure with that.
@@Calvin-Nelson - Used it on my last LS build. Got flow up to all the rockers.
Go!!
I like the content I just have an idea for you when you put the metal plate in there to check your clearance smear a little grease on the top of the plate that way you drop the pan on it if you lift it up and you have grease on it you know you're good or not good
We normally end up modifying the pickup to match the oil pan, so it doesn't really matter where on the pan it is hitting, only that it is hitting.
3:55 If that's a task you do often, would it not make sense to alter the cam chain cover? Install a threaded inspection area so you can unscrew a bolt, unlock the lever, set the adjustment then screw the bolt back into place with some thread sealer.
It definitely would. It's not something you do often. Should be set and forget.
That's a lot of info on an engine most people know nothing about. It's nice to hear what works, and why, and what does not. Question is what we gonna do when the supply of these engines dries up?
The same could be said of any engine that is out of production. Example... LS
@@Calvin-Nelson That's true. and if there is enough demand, the aftermarket will take up the slack. It amazes me what you have done with this engine and all the building tips you supply. I'm sure those considering this engine appreciate your building tips.
I love what you guys are doing I was wondering if y’all have put a kit together to sale and have you figured out a intake manifold to sale yet if you do I’m definitely interested in buying
No. I'm working with a few companies to develop parts, but it will be a little while.
Thank you sir for answering back
@@caneyboy40 No problem. Thanks for watching!
You have an opinion on using a parallel, electrically driven oil cooler circuit versus an inline one powered by the stock oil pump? It’s an interesting way to do it for sure. I road race and I like the idea of taking the extra plumbing off the engine pump’s load.
I'd rather have a parallel electric pump circuit
@@Calvin-Nelson You have a preferred brand of pump?
@@Zero76606 Haven't tried it yet. I was thinking about using a scavenge pump.
I'm looking to install a 4200 into my mk3 supra and try to run 600 ish hp.
Is junkyard diving to get a replacement oil pan more problematic or pricey compared to all the welding you had to do to repair?
It's a modified oil pan. Definitely easier to fix what we have.
Use a filter relocation bracket and let the stock oil pump send it to a cooler and return it through the filter loop. Unless you think that isn't enough cooling?
I don't like the idea of having pressure loss across a cooler.
You guys should look into doing a stamped steel oil pan
We have. Lol
Because welding thin sheet metal is awesome!
My biggest complaint about the 4200... no rear sump pan or pick-up.
i need you to make my oil pan for my s197 build.. i suck at welding aluminum.. i can handle the sump, but the pan, nah. would u be interested in doing that for me here in a couple weeks? you said u got ur donor pan from a colorado i5 right?
No. Sorry. We're too busy to help with that. Look up Eric Heinze on Facebook. He'll do one for you.
This channel is gonna blow up. Hopefully unlike this motor.
Thanks!
Thinking of this exact build for my 86 toyota pickup...will you be selling some of your custom parts or will I have to do most of this myself...I actually want only about 450hp considering how light the truck is but that 700hp would be wild asf.
We sell a few parts. Check out paccracing.com/store. Also check out the Vortec 4200 wiki
@Nivlac57 thanks brother...also what ecu are you using ? Also how much for your custom intake, exhaust,& are there similar off the shelf cams or will I have to send some in for regrind as you did?
@@sixx6sixx107 I can't do customer work sorry. All the info is here. sites.google.com/view/vortec4200wiki/home
@Nivlac57 understandable....im pretty sure i can get a local to build the intake & exhaust....I did consume alot of information from there....only draw back now is the price of that Maxxecu Race box🤣🤣🤣🤣 because I'm pretty sure at some point I would want to run up to 25psi+ of boost.
does this get any better if you switch to head studs? and if so what studs are you using?
sites.google.com/view/vortec4200wiki/upgraded-fasteners
First time viewer here. Is the bottom end stock or is it upgraded?
This one is stock.
Are all the year blocks the same in strength?
No. 06 and later are better in the sleeves.
Where did your name come from?
00:20 ok I see it's Calvin backward. What about the 57?
F165 is from my 2016 F150 with a 2.7 liter aka 165 cuin v6 ecoboost.
I like 57 Chevy's
@@Calvin-Nelson Damn, that's crazy because I like 65 impala ss.
How much does a custom 4.2 cam cost? I would like to make 325 hp from a 2004.
@@blackericdenice You'll have about $1000 into the whole thing including valve springs, installation tools, lifter and shim kit, and the cam regrind fee.
@@Calvin-Nelson You made that valve spring compressor?
I have a video of me rebuilding and installing a cam in a 96 Tahoe 5.7. After buying my F165 and seeing how much faster it was. I sold my Tahoe.
@@blackericdenice The Valve spring compressing tool, I purchased from someone. I have the info on the wiki.
All u did was a cam? And a turbo?
Yup
@@Calvin-Nelson ur the man Calvin!
I got 2 of these motor I want to go 7s I just sent the head out to get ported n cut n have everything done to hold a 1000 HP or more as I see these motores make crazy HP with low boost n i will have all the internal balance. Anyway I can get in contact u ???? Face book
Yeah. You can send me a message on Facebook, or email me at nivlac5700@gmail.com
There is another engine piston with lower compression that you can fit on this engine - manufacturers do not make parts for this engine
This engine can become one of the most powerful engines. It is similar to an engine in some countries, only it is like engine from Ford
hahahaha...... bung
-beavis