The SECRET Boeing 747´s!
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2023
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Everyone knows all about the 747s that the American president uses to move around, but there are a lot of other 747s out there that have been used in military roles - some of them really… exotic, and even a bit scary. Today we are going to look at a few of them. Stay tuned.
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I would not be surprised to learn that laser-carrying drones or fighters are being tested secretly as a way to destroy enemy aircraft or to blind their pilots instantly. It would work at short to medium range, and be much more accurate than machine guns, cannon or missiles.
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If anyone watching is ever in the Seattle WA area, that original KC747 refueling plane is on display at the Museum of Flight. You can walk through the whole thing as well as a Concorde and Eisenhower's Air Force One, along with a ton more in the main building.
Awesome!
Mentour, you have the best aviation channel out there. Your style of presentation is logical, measured, and thorough. You have a real gift for explaining concepts and telling a story
Thank you so much!
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Dont argue with idiots, we cant force them to be right
@@MentourNow Hi Petter, love the channels, both Mentour Pilot and Mentour Now. Really good content, really well presented.
As a Brit who has lived in Turkey and learned what it's like to be a non-native speaker, I have to say that your English is fantastic. I learned from my experience of living abroad that it's beyond most of us to sound like a native speaker of another language, and therefore I listen to competent non-native speakers with respect, and wouldn't dream of criticising the inevitable small imperfections.
On the other hand, you're obviously someone who's always learning, and you clearly value good presentation, and there's one small mispronunciation you might like to know about, which is the pronunciation of "bomber". The B is silent in every version of English I can think of, so it's pronounced "bommer", rhyming with "comma". "Bomb" is pronounced "bom", but the B stays silent even when there are suffixes, e.g. in bombing, bomber, bombed.
If the above is irritating, I do apologise!
Thinking about it, there ARE words including "bomb" where the B is sounded, e.g. bombard, bombadier.
Finally breaking down and give you money. I try to support "starving creators" instead of professionals, but your content is JUST TOO GOOD 😁👍
Thank you SO much! Its hugely appreciated!
Loving how much content you put out on this 2nd channel Petter.
Me and the team are working super hard to give you something to watch in between our full documentaries.
Glad you like it!
The amazing thing about the Goblin testing was that the test pilot put not destroying the test plane above his own life.
Yeah, true
To be fair, the pilot's chances of survival are generally improved if he earnestly TRIES to keep the plane he's flying in one good piece... Even abandoning the thing with an ejector seat and parachute presents quite a few hazards on its own, not least of which to life and limb. ;o)
Flying aircraft carriers existed in WW1. Zeppelin launched aircraft were a thing. Not an effective thing, but a thing.
What makes more sense nowadays would be a flying drone carrier. That would work pretty well, i would think. And if you lose a drone, you're not losing the pilot, so who cares? When you look at the cost of infantry guided missiles, losing a drone isn't that big of a deal. Especially if your drone fires it's ordinance and they gets destroyed or lost.
True that!
@@jeromethiel4323 Seems overkill though. Drones don't need much of a take off strip, nor much of a landing strip. And they can stay in the air for a long time so there is limited gain of bringing them to where they need to operate with big and expensive flying target.
@@AbiGail-ok7fc Those are some good points.
The US aircraft carriers (Akron-class airships) came a while after that, but they were also ineffective. Funnily enough many of their issues (small and not very effective planes, difficult and accident-prone retrieval) apparently had to be rediscovered rather than fixed upfront with the B-36 and the AAC.
I'm glad someone in the air force is a Star Wars fan with a sense of humor! 🤣 that E4B's callsign was Order66 😂
Hahaha!
I like the new history content! Lots of others are doing such but your delivery and writing are perfect. Now ... how to alter the genre is key. Keep it up, thanks!
Thank you! We do our best to be a bit different!
Wooh! Two videos in two days! Petter is putting in some serious work on his content creation! Looking forward to watching this while I’m walking the dog in a few minutes.
I don't think we'll see the like of the 747 again. It was an aircraft of it's time, and that time probably won't come around again. But what an amazing aircraft. Simply put, it's still the queen of the skies. ^-^
I completely agree
Not in a passenger aspect but eventually they’ll need something as large or larger as the aging C5 galaxies for the military but the US just updated all the C5s with newer modernized cockpits and engines to keep them in service for at least into the 2040s. Who knows what aviation will be like by then 😊
@@MentourNow 🥲😢At young 12years old, watching the result of Bill Allen & Juan Trippes then DreamMachine, the 747-100 made its inaugural flight, I doubt I'll easily adjust to a world w/out The Queen of the Skies. 3 generations of my family paid the bills from her left hand seat....now 😢only Korean Air occasionally shows herself in Hawaii as lone remaining passenger carrier. A far cry from our Pan Am fleet of 75- 747s! Yes, the freighter versions are flying, I see Atlas, and more common carrier cargo versions. Longest Antennae? Im not 100% certain; perhaps E-4 since this is a presentation about 747s? Thanks for another fabulous video.👏
You have to wonder if the idea of the aerial aircraft carrier will be re-examined now that we have entered the age of the drone.
Boeing designed this plane to be an alternative to the C5A in competition. Since it was not chosen, it went after the passenger market. Amazingly successful design, for nearly sixty years.
Absolutely! 💕✈️
Not true. The Boeing C-5 design was a shoulder-wing aircraft, just like the Lockheed. The span was greater than the 747, the fuselage was shorter. All that they had in common was the use of the JT9D high-bypass engine technology. From Boeing's own website: "The design philosophy behind the 747 was to develop a completely new plane, and other than the engines, the designers purposefully avoided using any hardware developed for the C-5." The idea that the 747 was related to the C-5 proposal is one of those aviation myths that refuses to die.
Another compelling, informative video! Loved the footage and photos included. Reading the research paper snippets was amusing as well. Thank you Mentour Pilot team!
Maybe eventually we will see archaeology projects with people in the 25th century or so building a 747 "with the primitive methods available at the time" the way we sometimes see that with boats or castles or similar stuff now. So the hope for a new 747 research project never dies.
Speaking of the long antenna, the French army also had a plane designed to communicate with subs, the Transall Astarté with 8.6 km of wire
Cool!
The E-6 Mercury also has ELF long-wire antennas.
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I found this video fascination for many reasons. Being from Nebraska, I've seen the "Doomsday 747's" when driving in the Lincoln/Omaha area and have always been interested in knowing more about this aircraft. Also the super long Omega VLF antenae brings back memories of the US Navy Omega VLF station in LaMoure, ND when I lived near there years ago. Now decomissioned, it was a Navy base thousands of miles from an ocean or coast and consisted of a high radio tower transmitting navigational Omega signals for submarine navigation before GPS took over. If you drove near it when it was transmitting your car radio would emit an audible tone. So strange to see a Navy base in the middle of North Dakota. Your videos, as always are captivating.
Great video as always. My grandfather helped create the YAL-1A's lasers
Existence of such specialised airplanes can be quite inspiring for catastrophic movies directors.
Indeed!
The US has already had 2 flying aircraft carriers, the USS Akron and the USS Macon. They were airships that carried scout aircraft for recognisance mission before WWII, they both crashed.
Those were dirigibles.
I love this airplane design and history series,, keep educating us please.
9:30 I don't think it's documented anywhere, but my grandfather flew F4s out of Udorn Thailand in 71-72 time-frame. Once a SR71 had to make an emergency landing there. The Viet Cong sent a truck full of explosives right up to the main gate to try and take it out. The guards - neutralized - the truck well before it got to the base. But my grandfather heard a loud boom, went outside his office to see what was happening, and had a leg land on the ground in front of him. But the SR71 was safe.
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The SOFIA airborne telescope, run by NASA and the German Aerospace Centre DLR was pretty cool too. Based on a 747-SP (I think), they put a giant door in the back which opened during flight at 40000ft+ to have an gimballed telescope look into the sky. Unfortunately, they cancelled the programme last year. 😢
Always loud and clear. Thanks.
I had this video recommended in my feed, and I am very glad I watched it. This was very informative and I remember way back way back as a kid, watching clips of the goblin. Just watching it trying to dock onto the mother ship was super scary as a kid. Thank you for the trip down memory lane. 🙌👏👍😃
Boeing also proposed a 747 Cruise Missile Carrier, where it would carry up to 70 cruise missiles. turning it into a huge standoff bomber basically. The project was scrapped due to aerodynamic issues and fears it could alter the perception of the aircraft putting passenger 747s at risk because a country might mistake the two.
You mean like the Korean Air 007 incident?
Very intriguing video. Thank you for great content as always!
Thank YOU for watching!
Very interesting, you certainly know how to keep me glued to the computer screen, many thanks.
Thanks for another fascinating video, Petter and team 😀
VERY nicely done! Your research team does an extraordinary job and your presentation is excellent.
Very interesting stuff.
One PROPOSED, and rather scary, military 747 variant was as a cruise missile carrier. I've seen pics of the idea - it would have over a hundred and twenty ALCMs (Airborne Launched Cruise Missiles) loaded internally,. Presumably, these would be jettison-launched a few at a time, but the sheer quantity of ALCMs carried is what gives me pause.
Definitely a "Holy Crap!" idea - one look and that'd be the first phrase to come to mind.. :)
If not the same plane, there was also an idea to have it carry several ICBMs. I guess anything that the cruise-missile-carrying 747 couldn't destroy, the nuclear-missile-carrying one could :P The idea was to drop them out like a huge vending machine, mid air where the ICBMs would then activate their rocket engines and start their trip to (presumably) the Soviet Union.
I enjoy listening to your videos with a voice making it interesting to me.
I would love it if you did a video about the issues with the GTF and all of the aircraft groundings!
In covering my favorite transport aircraft in history, you managed to work in a good word for my favorite aircraft of all time, the SR-71 Blackbird. I was personally saddened by the Blackbird's retirement.
It would be amazing if he covered the SR-71 in detail including some of the stories from the Sled Driver book.
It was a unique mission with very skilled pilots and RSO’s. I spent 6 years supporting the SR71 as a tanker pilot. It was a great business to be in.
The idea of flying aircraft carriers goes even further back. The US Navy even had two in the 30's: Two rigid airships (search for "Akron class")
The idea behind an air aircraft carrier goes back to airships and biplanes. And the idea is now back with drones. As drones can be much smaller than manned aircraft and don't necessarily have to be recovered.
it's always really interesting to hear about airplane variations!!
Glad you liked it!
I am sure your colleague Kelsey (YTube) would be jealous about all this 747 information :D As always wonderful job putting this all together. The length is also prefect to watch this during a break! Many thanks!
Another 747 conversion was SOFIA - the US/German airborne infra red telescope that flew above most of the water vapour in the atmosphere which blocks ground-based infra red astronomy. A huge door was let into the side of the aircraft which opened in flight to let the 2.7m telescope view the sky. As you can imagine, serious stabilisation was required to keep the telescope stable. The SOFIA aircraft was originally a Pan Am 747 SP delivered in the mid-1970s. It was retired last year.
Petter did a whole video on the SOFIA airplane a few months ago.
Fascinating video! Thanks!
In 2021, it was announced that Iranian flight engineers were, for the first time ever, able to maintain their fleet of 747s whilst being put under sanctions.
Such a feat was considered impossible, but considering the age of the planes, the thousands of hours techies had poured over them, and outdated analogue avionics, such tasks were accomplished.
Probably, some 747s were cannibalised for aircraft spares.
I heard a story that an SR-71 called ATC asking for clearance to flight level 700. The controller called back with a chuckle and said, "Okay, if you can get up there, you are cleared to flight level 700.
The STR-71 responded, "Rodger, descending to flight level 700."
Without watching the end, it is a trailed Very Low Frequency (VLF) antenna, primarily used for submarine communications, I used to work on a 44khz transmitter for the same purpose.
The Laser-747 is something a supervillain from an animated kids film would have to aid his taking over of the world.
I checked the calendar to make sure it wasn't april fool's:) It's proposterous!
But very cool! I’m guessing it was custom made for the likes of North Korea
Petter: "The E-4B is all about communication."
The E-4B: "Execute Order 66."
What is order 66 ?
@@MarinCipollina Execute all known Jedi.
@@MarinCipollina The right thing to do.
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Fascinating episode, full of details & interesting plane facts ❤😂🎉
Longest antenna is trailing long wire from the US airborne command aircraft to communicate with submerged submarines using VLF radio at 75Hz. Needs an antenna several kilometres long. [Edit: I win the internet!!]
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@@Richardincancale Sounds rather murky.
I think that should be 75kHz, as 75Hz would require an antenna 4,000 kilometers long (C/f=wavelength, 300,000km/sec / 75 = 4,000)
@@tomhargreaves8820 Actually it is 76Hz! Antenna efficiency is extremely low, but the wave propagates around the earth by diffraction, rather to an bouncing off the ionosphere like MF and HF, with very low loss. The Ultra low frequency is needed to penetrate sea water. Using such low frequencies the information rate is in bits/minute, so it was used as a ‘bell ringer’ system to tell the submerged submarine to rise to just below the surface where it could receive an actual message.
"I want frickin' 747s with frickin' lasers in their noses."
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I love this video. It's really interesting thanks Petter
Glad you found it interesting!
*_Former Boeing Everett... Thank you, even I learned something new with your video..._*
Very nice video +1 subsciber
Awesome video! I thought you were going to talk about the firefighting capabilites of the Supertanker (you showed it!)
Very useful for these days Boeing had plans to convert a 747 to a launcher of cruise missiles. Lots of them
Military history, esp aircraft, is my catnip. Well done.
Very interesting, as always.
You forgot to mention the 747 "Dreamlifter" used to transport parts for 787 Dreamliner production!!
A laser shooting 747 you say. Dr. Evil and Mini Me would be proud. 😅
one thing you didn't mention is that 747 waterbomber for attacking forest fires. as you can imagine, it has a much higher capacity than the smaller aircraft that are usually used for that purpose.
Ahh, true. That might be worth it’s own video actually
@@MentourNow i look forward to it :-)
A picture of the Global Supertanker (Spirit of John Muir) is shown at 12.35. Looks like someone put the picture in the video without knowing the plane's real purpose.
Yes. The Queen of the skies is beautiful. But can you imagine a Queen of the skies that shoots lasers? Man! That's amazing!
Also, I didn't know about the 1st one doing way more than just being the first 747.
Very interesting to see so many different versions of the 747. It is also amazing that the US Air Force is planning to keep flying the B-52 models for another 20 years. Those have 8 engines, as you know.
Great video
I remember flying from Portland to Seattle in 1974 I was amazed how big these 747 are amazing craft
I was on the first 747 that was built. I was only a few weeks old, so I have no memory of it, but I was there.
It’s indeed a very specialized aircraft. I had the chance to visit with aircraft and crew, it was pretty special. Some of the crew I knew from decades past, so it was a pretty awesome visit.
The F15,with additional external fuel tanks is the only fighter that can cross the Atlantic without midair refueling.
I love this channel. I think I've watched 5 or 6 in a row
I always thought the Airborne Laser Lab would be a good solution to the problem of people shining lasers at planes.
Yes, the X15 was launched by another plane and set records for speed.
X15 was one of my favorite test platforms.
Very cool!
Gotta love whoever tagged the doomsday planes as "Order 66"
good work
So the doomsday plane that flies the President is named Order 66? Cool...
I live in DC and see the E4B pretty frequently.
The Navy's E-6B is the PRIMARY means of communication for submerged Submarines. They fly a aircraft 24/7/365 for this purpose. They have the same 5 mile long VLF antenna. Prior to the E-6B it was the EC-130Q, and currently they are about to start prototyping a C-130J-30 (Stretched Fuselage) as a replacement aircraft for the E-6B. The E-6B also does the Looking Glass Mission (Facilitate the launch of U.S. land-based intercontinental ballistic missiles using an Airborne Launch Control System(ALCS). (Not sure if Looking Glass will remain with them if/when they transfer the C-130J-30 aircraft or if they will just do the Submarine Coms.)
Unique video!
Thanks!
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Thank you sir for such contents. I like your all videos. Really wanted to be a pilot but never got chance due to family issues😰. But still thank you sir❤️
OK, I always start with the bad - bring the dogs back... good and great - your CG, excellent, Including Sandra excellent !
Lots of USAF 747 info... nice. One point of info: I joined the USAF in 1998 and even back then the "Kneecap" terminology was no longer being used. It was NAOC.
My base was on the short list for YAL-1 if it had ever progressed to AL-1, and during my career the Space Shuttle was brought through on a 747 once: We were not on the primary route, but were an alternate location for weather diversions.
The Captain America movies with the helicarrier comes to mind... :-D
The first produced 747 that was converted into a tanker is now on display at the museum of flight in Seattle. Worth a visit!
Another great video! I am missing Mentour reaction videos though! Maybe you could comment on one or the other 3 Minute Aviation video!
Send us suggestions of what I should react to, and I’ll do it if I can see a learning point in there.
@@MentourNow for example the first clip in this video: Half the comments say it's dangerous flying, the other half praises the captain! ruclips.net/video/eFsT3QgIvoI/видео.html
Thanks for your answer!
I remember a bunch of 747s lined up as domestic short haul airliners in Bangkok in the 1990s .
Anyways, some world saving experiment with a jumbo-sized aircraft could be:
- Testing green fuel prototypes with low efficiency, thus needing huge tanks until the recipe is optimized.
- High altitude atmosphere manipulation to add or remove substances that will fit in the cargo space.
Thanks for this one, Peter.. Fascinating stuff. I wanted to ask, have you heard anything of the rumours regarding a supersonic replacement for Air Force One? I liked the Boeing SST prototypes of the 1960s, perhaps those plans could be dusted off and updated? As we all know, tremendous strides have been made over the last 50 years or so. They had roughly 3 times the cargo capacity of the Concorde, as I recall.
I haven’t heard much yet but the Boom supersonic have been in talks with the US government I believe.
I believe that the U.S. Navy's E-6 Mercury has a trailing wire antenna, which is about 5 miles long when unreeled, and it's used to communicate with submerged submarines!!!
Your absolutely correct.
Wheew another great show, ever since I've found the channel the shows have been very informative and well put together on both channels.
I knew the answer to the quiz question right away, however just wanted to point out that of course the Navy had squadrons of C-130s used specifically for communicating with submarines that trail we these very long wire antennas for VLF communications a few characters per second. Therefore the 747s were not the only aircraft with these very long antennas, as you say in the video. I was stationed in the next hanger and the crews described deploying the antenna and flying the C130 as vertical as possible. That was in the early 70s.
I always enjoyed flying in the 747, and when in SFO would get a hotel room at the Embassy Suites in Burlingame on the north side to watch them come in from the east or take off toward the west. I took wanted to see that laser plane knock down Soviet ICBMs. Thanks for the memories!
it should be noted that in the early 20th c. both Germany and the United States experimented with the use of deridgerables to carry smal fighter aircraft.
you forgot an important one- please do a special on the Virgin Orbit 747 that launched drockets into space! :D
@0:30 probably the ground mapping radar on the E-8 or similar.
@1:35 no. the obvious answer is to fly the fighter jets there on their own power, maybe set up a refueling tanker on the way if you don't have allies that allow you to land on the way to refuel. Alternatively you can disassemble the wings and pack them up in a cargo aircraft, and then reassemble them when they got where they needed to go.
@16:40 huh... I did think about submarine communication with ELF, but I didn't think they could fit the infrastructure or power plant onto an aircraft.
I saw one of those E-4Bs take off from Peterson SFB a couple days ago.
Duck and cover maui
Chortle chortle. And then the outro music too hahaha
This made me realise how out of pocket the US defence is. Like here in the netherlands the president goes to work on a bicycle, an dover there it's with armoured cars n everything
For a while, we had the E-4Bs flying out of our airfield, due to the length of our runway, while their home base was repaired. One of them must've had some sort of minor problem trying to land one day, because it was making a very low traffic pattern over my then-work location. I stood on my car and appreciated the plane until she went in to land.