Respected Pro Sounds Off Before MAJOR Meeting (The Bilge Podcast)
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Chris Zaldain and Trait Zaldain sit down with Bassmaster Elite Series Professional Pat Schlapper to hear his thoughts on the current state of fishing’s top pro league on this week's Bilge Podcast presented by @battlebornbatteries
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I feel like people are sleeping on Pat. That dude is a straight up hammer
Hammer? What’s that supposed to mean? Carpenter or something??
He wouldn't be there along with the rest of the Rookies, Without FFS They Wouldn't Be There, They couldn't Compete at the Club Level!
@@jodyvess8509?
naw hes a Schlapper. hes out here Schlappin em.
Great interview with Schlapper. He’s completely down to earth. As for what I would want as a fan.. I want to never again hear.. “watching someone scope is boring” ALL fishing coverage is boring until the hookup. Anyone judging this vs. that is looking for an out. Good luck in NY, Chris
Agree 💯, as a viewer I don’t know what the angler is looking at because their back is usually turned away from the camera, but whether looking at ffs, the map, old school sonar, or anything else on the water, we are still waiting for the hook up. It’s really not any different than before ffs, people just want to complain and whine like some bratty kids
Finally! All fishing is boring to watch until a hookup so who cares what you do prior to hooking that fish? Anyone want to try an argue that watching someone blind cast is exciting?
You guys have your opinion on FFS and what’s “boring”. People can feel however they want about it….
Ffs is more boring to watch hook up. Big rods big Line big Hook sets is better to watch not a question. I do like the ffs stuff too but not as exciting as
@@grat8436 Really? so no pro ever fished with anything but broom handle fishing rods prior to FFS? Ever see someone try to land 5 lb bass on lighter spinning tackle where they can't use a net or boat flip it and there's $100k on the line? About as exciting as it gets.
5 out of the 7 tournaments were won with FFS this year thus far(2024). The next two tournaments will be won with it. So 7 out of the 9 tournaments this year will be won with FFS this year which comes out to 78%. Matt Arey stated he is the youngest angler in the top 20 in points wise on the elites recently on his podcast and he is 39. Quit beating around the bush and running from the fact that its completely dominating the sport. Chris hinted that if it stays on the path it is going, he more than likely wont be around in 5 years. Pat, Chris, and everyone in the industry knows what needs to be done.
All Of The Tournaments Have Been Won That Way!!!
It Surely Has Won Every Event, Where In The Hell Has Slapper Been?
And that’s why the older guys don’t like
Every sports gets younger don’t change the rules because certain guys don’t adapt
@@dawsonholley11 I reckon they ought to just tell every pitch before it’s thrown in baseball, and where it’s going to be in the strike zone too. It’s not the point of adapting. It’s the fact that you can’t just change a sport completely from the way it’s always been played. I mean you can, but it won’t succeed.
@@dawsonholley11 its illegal for deer hunters to use drones to scout out deer.. using FFS should be illegal for scouting out fish. Drones has no effect on the deer, sonar does. dont worry, many conservationist are lobbying for its ban. I give it about 12-18 months and it will be banned and ILLEGAL. :D
Wednesday is gunna be hilarious. Can't wait to see the outcome. BTW, this is the best "fishing" podcast out there. Yall can say they stir drama, but in reality, they are being transparent with us. And I'm here for it.
No contest. Not the sam repeat guests. Not hrs of livescope talk, different ppl in the industry not just anglers. Love it.
How are they transparent? They talk around things but never actually go into detail. They literally bleeped a name out to keep from being transparent in this episode. I’m not sure you understand what true transparency is. I watch the episodes because they do have great guests but they are clearly just shit stirrers
@@christophercox5577 Koby Kreiger was the name beeped they said it on the last one.
I'm an instant fan of Pat! Sending love your way brother
Real talk yall. Thanks for being very transparent. Never heard Pat speak before but he's solid!
I personally think FFS is the best educational tool we’ve ever had and it’ll get swept under the rug like everything else. I personally love watching professionals bass fishin no matter what their doing
Might be your best podcast yet. Pat was an excellent guest and very well spoken and candid on the current issues.
Agree!!
Another Good Dude!! Thanks for another good podcast to kill time and get to meet another Angler. This one and the show with Kennedy was my favorite. We need a part 2 with Kennedy. I love the Juice he gives up. Good Luck this week!
Enjoy listening to Pat, He is level headed and thinks things out and has some good suggestons. Good luck Pat
Great podcast and Pat is a great guy and really a smart laid back person.. keep up the great work Chris and Trait!!
We need a new show! Real Housewives of the Bassmaster Elites!! Golden!!!
Another awesome show. Didn’t know much at all about Pat Schlapper and now I’m a huge fan!!!
Major respect for this guy. Best advice that we all need to hear.
Good show folks! love Patty Schlapp!
Really enjoy Pat's honesty! Electronics are definitely changing the game. Best of luck to both of you this week!!!!
I miss the days when Bassmaster had superstars. FFS has made a lot of one hit wonders. The average weekend fishermen aren't impressed with what the "Pros" are doing anymore, that is what needs to change IMO.
Then why are the same guys winning lol?
Keep the no info, off limits as soon as the lakes are announced, one livescope transducer, everyone has the same amount of inches of screen, Let people know when a rule has been broken and the penalty, and make sure that the rules are enforced. A camera in every boat would help enforce the rules. Turn bass track off for the last hour of the tournament to make it more interesting as well.
And the whole NASCAR deal every car in NASCAR is supposed to be the same, so you know who the best driver is.
This dude just grew his fan base
That’s a real dude! Great pod guys. Appreciate the insight on the league!
Pat is a good guy glad y'all had him on . Love the podcast.
We all want to see the picture of the little lumberjacks.
lol
What an awesome dude! Rootin for ya Pat
Where can I learn about the tree cutting incident, have no idea what you guys are talking about and I follow the sport very closely
Love these podcasts … please post them on a player again long drives.. your podcast has got me through many of them!!
Spot on. You're not employees so speak your mind and BASS needs to get over it.
"Tough love, I know it well" 😂😂😂. Chris if you're in danger blink three times at the camera😂😂😂
Pat is SPOT FREAKIN ON WITH THE LIVESCOPE! Amen brother well said and way to be honest!
We need update on yesterdays meeting. 😁
Pat you’re the man!
Chris congratulations on your top #9 finish!!! Go Z🐟💦🇺🇸🎣
I am a fisherman and although not a professional, I do want to know what is going on in the professional world. The professionals have a large impact on what is produced by tackle manufacturers and available to me so thank you for your podcast.
Pats a good dude!
Great episode! Great to see and hear from Pat!!
My biggest gripe with fishing is me missing the tourneys. Bass needs an app with notifications
Is it really that hard to go on their website and look at the schedule?
Yes! Another bilge podcast! Love this show
That was raw emotion at the end and it is an honest feeling.
Need to have Tommy Biffle on. The knowledge shared would be mind boggling.
We had one planned then had to cancel but hopefully soon. - Trait
@@ZaldaingerousGood deal I’m here for it!
Awesome podcast , and awesome finish @ the river ! Put up some new videos please
Just watched this podcast as soon as it was over I’m going to follow Pat! Great job guys keep it up
Not sure how many people would watch football if the offense only had one play.
At least these guys are not saying the bullshit line “ yeah but it doesn’t make the fish jump in the boat”
Always a great podcast. Good luck this week and be safe out there.
Swindle top 3 in the world ? Maybe 15 years ago
Great show. I think there should be no information, off limits start January 1 of season, FFS limited to 2 transducers and no more than 5 screens max of 60” total. I would like to see a 12 event season split into 3 segments, prespawn , spawn, post spawn (or something similar)One segment each month 4 back to back. That could allow for a west coast swing possibly. Field should be 100. Split field so day one 50 fish 4 hours in am & 50 fish 4 hours in pm. Next day field flips fish time. Could do 3 day tournament and entire field fish’s all 3 days or do 4 days all fish first 3 days and day four top 10 fish for 8 hours. Just my thoughts. I like the idea of whole field being live-streamed everyday of event.
I gotta know... who cut down the trees in the WMA?
Trey and JT
Schlapper is the shit he should really do more RUclips vids
Great one! First time I've heard Pat. Definitely enjoyed it.
Sorry for multiple comments, but how can you call a man AOY when you only fish 6 or 7 months and pretty much spring and 2 summer tournaments? I think there needs to be a winter, sprung, summer, and fall tournament and not FFS in every tournament. On the conservation side, I was at Smith lake and know that there were at least 150 bass dead, but getting bass out of the population isn't a bad thing. People need to start eating them
I’ve always thought they should donate dead fish to local food banks for a fish fry…why waste it.
@ForesFishing I was a Marshall at Smith and I saw Steve Kennedy getting the fish, he's always said spotted bass tasted great. Not sure if he ate them but it seemed that way
Me personally as guy who has active target, I don't watch the tournaments anymore just because of my style of fishing I don't enjoy it anymore because you don't see the Rick Clunns, Jimmy Houston etc. ripping baits, to me it is boring and not as exciting. I had one of the most exciting days fishing with live after catching 40+ good fish on a massive bait ball I mean what a day in a spot on my home lake I've fished since I was a kid and would've never fished this spot just happened to turn towards them landing a fish to stay out of the rocks. I follow the guys like you and a handful of others on social media that I want to see just because they don't normally show the traditional fishing anymore. I've also witnessed on my lake when you ping towards good fish they scatter.
Best pod cast. Today is Wed. Hoping for rule enforcement, screen size limits (aka the amount of inches allowed on boat), limit to 2 transducers and FFS limited to 50% of tournaments.
This great to hear the story of a angler! That Doesn't get alot of attention! If that makes sence ?Great dude < Like his Attitude! Good luck pat ! Peace tray and Christopher
Nice episode
Great show love Pat. I will say those 2 anglers didn't break any rules. This sport is hard which you know. Let it go they were smart had the money. Even with the info it doesn't change the fact those guys are great anglers.
Penalties should be set into groups or classification this is the penalty and maybe the anglers put in suggestions for each level - tiered
FFS should be limited to some degree. Every other tournament, every other day but not or not championship day. Something so we can watch guys still figure it out. More fun to watch
Definitely one of the best shows I have watched.. 🤘
I just finished binge watching all of the Bilge podcasts. Who else has a good fishing podcast? I’m looking for others, like the Zaldains, that take pride in quality audio. I can’t listen to podcasts with guests who sound like they’re talking on Mars talking through a potato tied to a shoe string.
Oh to be a fly on the wall at that meeting coming up…
Wow that was a great one!
Let the legends make the ruling
Pat is awesome and this was a great pod cast. accountability and consequences of actions is big to keep the integrity of BASS. if not your no better then the other league. I really like you guys please don’t forget that right now you are where you’re at because you sell equipment. FFS is a big sales, along with rods, baits, boats etc. most of your customers do not tournament fish. you should really be looking at big picture and growing sport. don’t be like the WNBA and be to stubborn to change and grow. keep up the great Pod Cast!
Same should apply in the opens!!
Great pod best one yet
What I would like to see. A limited number of events to use FFS, would be really cool if the angler got to choose which ones. But from a fan's point of view, I'm tuning out when everyone is just staring at screens. Also, the season ends way too early. Seeing you chasing fish in the fall when they start feeding hard would be great. And would be nice if there was some sort of special event to end the season, sort of like a playoff for the last spots into the classic. I think there was something like this in the past.
What is the consequence at BASS if you cull a dead fish?
I’ve been fishing tournaments my entire life . I know a pro on the elite series . I’ve had months where I couldn’t not catch them if I tried . And slumps where it seemed like I couldn’t catch them at all.
Love you guys. Love California, too. Relax. ✌️
Trait or Chris, anyway we can get episodes uploaded on Spotify again?
Love your stuff Chris
Great show
Great interview!
Making a " a jury of your peers" to adjudicate potential rule violations is spot on
Boy, would I like to see the meeting videoed and put on youtube.
Another Good show, I now a Fan of Pat
If people think ffs derbies are boring, just wait until the offshore 2d tournaments where guys catch a 1/4 as many fish 😂.
The problem is 8 hours of fishing. No way to make that thrilling all the time.
I’m fine with some electronics restrictions, but ffs has become extremely common down to the club level. Banning it now would be a mistake.
Good Stuff!
Anybody know which angler cut down the cypress trees?
Hey Chris. I'm a big fan. Also a fan of Scott and the boys. Scott stays with 2 other anglers. Great guys. If they talk about practice is that legal.
The one thing I didn't hear at all in this discussion was Marshalls. Like Trait was mentioning, every sport has penalties. And who enforces these penalties? Referees, Marshalls, etc. Isn't that the point of having a Marshall in the boat? To enforce the regulations? Could B.A.S.S. take a closer look at how critical a role they could play. More Marshalls? One in every boat? $500 × 104 boats x 8 tournaments is $416K. Obviously cut day/championship day you have less Marshalls so less expense. I'm not a tournament angler. I fish a Toyota Owners tourney every year with a buddy, so there's alot of things I don't know about being a competitive angler, let alone a pro, but is this something that could impact things in a positive way moving forward for B.A.S.S. to look at along with a live streaming camera?
dude i watched your vid yesterday, then seeing scott post about your swimbaits was freaking awesome haha. keep up the hard work. cant wait to hear this pod
I’m curious about how many of the current Elite Anglers have won the Federation Nation National Championship? I know it’s at least 5?
That was excellent.
I would love to see the season do some fall fishing
BASS needs to realize that if there is money involved, people are going to cheat. The public knows this and if there is never reprimand on the anglers then people will know your business is NOT legitimate. We don't want people to cheat but we also don't want it hidden from us. Plus there needs to be suspensions for repeat violation.
How many forward facing sonar units does one need too catch a fish having more than one is to many
I want to see Forward Facing Sonar removed from professional bass tournaments. We’ve already seen elite series anglers that can only win with forward facing sonar, meaning that they don’t know enough about bass fishing to compete without it. That is just plain sad. It would be like if professional baseball allowed aluminum bats, and suddenly guys that could only hit the ball out of the infield began hitting home run streaks. Real professional bass fishing shouldn’t be following fish around on a monitor and pissing them them off until they bite.
Legit questions for the ffs ppl. How are you OK with 1 method and 1 way to fish, pretty much exclusively, and for sure, the only way to win aoy and be consistently competitive? Why are you ok with traditional tournament fishing changing into something completely different? A complete game change.
What angler cut down trees?
McKinney and Thompkins is what I heard allegedly.
Yeap getting stuck in a rut or as you call funk sucks but it will pass. Just keep fishing! I don't fish tournaments but I'm out in my kayak fishing couple days a week all year long. I had best year of my life last year fishing, beating my PB multiple times & killing it with big swimbaits. This year I've been getting my ass kick, really hard!!! Last summer my 3 biggest largemouth was 8.6 - 9.3 & my current PB an 11.4
So far this year I've only hooked into 2 fish about 8lbs & one pulled off, other jumped off within last 10' of the fight so close to the kayak! Still hurts to think about. I know just gotta keep fishing & eventually it will turn around
I use FFS, and it isn't fishing it is catching. It takes the Pro out of Professional fishing. You are going to loose the fan base.
If you’re so good with it that all you do is catch with it you need to sign up for the opens immediately
Live sonar sux. Has taken all the knowledge out of fishing. Dam man everybody’s throwing a frickin minnow and shakin it. Hell a kindergarten age kid can do it. It has taken PRO out of fishing. Period
Why aren't you a pro then? Why are the same guys winning everything? If everyone can do it ? Get a clue before you talk or you sound extremely blocket to those that actually use it lol
@@chrissparks6380 exactly. He sounds like he has the knowledge to dominate! Go cash them checks longtimedirt6409
@@chrissparks6380a "Professional" shouldn't need FFS.
@@bobh6583 If FFS is that easy than any pro should be able to pick it up just as quickly if not quicker than anybody else
Fish should have to be hooked in the mouth or gill plate forward. Nothing from the gill plates back.
What's the biggest issue? Cheating. You all need to man up and fix it.
I want a hybridization in the schedule with FFS, No information from the time the lakes are released. Don't care about limiting units size or how many. I also would like a set punishment for every rule in the book and an angler panel of current anglers and former anglers for any other questions
really good listen! I am weirdly curious and would love to be a fly on the wall in the meeting tomorrow! Got a few questions for you guys...****sorry this response got a bit long!****
-When BASS said that everyone would get TV time at least once, did they say that would be an every year thing or just that year to try to rebuild the brand?
-Along the exposure lines, I usually go straight towards the angler columns when I'm on the site. Does BASS reach out to the anglers to see who would want a column or is it on the anglers to request to do a column? While it feels like half the time they drift into a sponsor plug or 5 I feel like you actually get a feel for someone's personality there too.
-I agree with you guys that the infractions should 100% be put up for the public to see. Like both of you mentioned it doesn't need to be super detailed just the infraction and penalty!
-Has the payout structure ever come up in these meetings? I mean other than everyone getting a check but more like a guy who misses out on Sunday by an ounce gets paid the same as the guy who finishes 50th and barely made the cut? That always felt off to me.
Selfishly as far as scheduling goes I would love to see more events! And I mean a lot more, really lean into it more like a PGA type of schedule. For me, I pay a lot closer attention when your events aren't as spaced out, this ICAST break kills me every year and I almost forget that you guys are still heading up north to close out the year. So to fix that I've devised a plan for the new schedule to better fit my needs and not necessarily the financial needs of lol:
-break the country down into areas where you can reach 3 lakes without a ton of travel...say like maybe 6 hours (closer the better) from lake to lake. You hit 3 lakes in 3 weeks then get 2-3 weeks off before the next group of 3 tourneys. Depending on how you want to route the schedule across the country would determine the length of the gap.
-To give people extra time to get from A to B you could turn Monday into a "travel/off" before official practice starts on Tuesday (I know this cuts off a day of practice that some people love). If the first 2 lakes a a bit farther apart the 1st tourney could move to be a Wed-Sat Tourney to allow for the extra travel in between and have Sunday and Monday to travel.
- Mixing in the 3on/2off and 3on/3off you can start at the end of Jan. or first week of Feb and still finish a 15 or 18 tournament schedule by the end of August or early September.
----Holy crap 18 events!?!?! I know its a lot and this is where I bring in the PGA aspect. They don't play every week, so lets just say that you need to participate in either 75 or 80% of the schedule to be eligible for the AOY. So lets say they do a trip out west and you don't want to make the trip, you just take those as your 3 off tourneys and get an extended break but that would be the nice part for the anglers is that they could kind of customize their schedules. Maybe only fish the first 2 of one group and the second 2 from the next group to extend your break...or if you are on a heater you just keep fishing and maybe hit all 18. The one caveat I would add is that you aren't allowed to skip the same Area in back to back years just so that fans might be able to catch you every other year.
Again, this scheduling idea was drawn up in my head purely for my entertainment and I feel like it would keep me a LOT more engaged in the tourney scene! You could also add a whole bunch of wrinkles into the Fantasy Fishing contests with this type of scheduling and possible drive more engagement there too. There were no considerations to the financial aspect of doubling the schedule for either anglers or BASS😆
I could get on board with more events. - less practice time and more events.
Average angler can’t relate to 4 days of practice before an event. We have to figure it out that day (or over the course of 4 days if a fishing trip)
We don’t want to just see you reel them in… we want to see the process, the decisions, etc while you figure them out
For the camera on each boat , everyone has a sealed go pro on there boat owned by B.A.S.S. and if your in the money it’s reviewed
The A Rig was banned, why not FFS.
Absolutely need to limit it! Just transducers on trolling motors
Not to mention losing co anglers at lower level grass route tournaments
Love the podcast. Do not care for FFS and I don’t pay any attention to Bassmaster or MLF anymore.
Dude that’s crazy.. cutting trees down has been going on. This dude on the river I fish cut a tree down to open up an area to fish off the bank.. crazy shit!!