What's funny is this is actually a really good game design principle called positive reinforcement. It's just buffing the weakest thing in the game until everything is viable and powerful, and only needing to nerf if unintended consequences come up (like exploits to get out of the map). It's super engaging, although it's hard to do
My favorite way to play Pig has always been Jump Scare Pig, where you use her brown add-on that increases her crouch movement speed with her red add-on that lets her see nearby auras while crouched. Then I just Ambush out of crouch for easy hits. These buffs Pig got recently just make that playstyle even better since her crouch speed is even faster Ambushing out of stealth works even more reliably now.
Maybe Ruin/Undying are getting cleansed because they're not doing gens, and instead running around to get traps off and running into the hexes. Since they don't have active traps (maybe because of Ruin) they have the time to cleanse the totems before taking the traps off.
@@blueboy1958 Nah I get why that went away, got old playing Survivor and just knowing every match would be drawn out as hell because of that perk. But right now it's kinda pathetic for a perk that can be cleansed. There's a balance to be found somewhere in there.
I think he was pointing to do the comp thing where you get a little extra distance, and he didn't realize she was going to take a hit. He points again a few seconds later when you do get a hit off :)
Really love this style of video! I feel like there's something for everyone with all the tips and tricks, and as a newer player, it really helps to see the macro thought process / ideal strategy for the killer as well as survivors 😊
As a Pig main, the buffs are definitely good, especially with the dash addons. Some content creators just exaggerated during the PTB and made it sound like it's suddenly the best anti-chase power in the game or something - It's not. It's just now a solid option at shorter loops because it isn't completely countered by holding W. What a lot of people don't talk about is one of the few nerfs to her kit the patch introduced - not being able to see jigsaw box auras. I believe the reasoning behind this was to prevent Pig from just following survivors forever to ensure a headpop, but it doesn't actually accomplish that, and in fact might make it worse. Especially for newer Pig players who may not have the best survivor tracking or sense of jigsaw box spawning. Experienced players will still be able to interrupt box searches, and inexperienced players will be less likely to leave trapped players to their searches, because they can't reliably patrol boxes any more.
Adding on to this as a fellow Pig main, it makes her feel much more like a Myers-type killer, which she can't really be unless CONSTANTLY crouched (And I keep running through my supply of red addons like a coffee addict at Starbucks for aura sensing). It kinda forces you to camp maybe one or two boxes instead of risk finding the others, ESPECIALLY on maps you're not as comfy with or haven't memorized the box placements. I think it also de-incentivizes her traps even more, why bother if you can't reliably intercept the removal? It's tough enough to get them to pop anyways. Even six months later, it's REDUCED the amount of trap pops I've had (Which were low to begin with). Sometimes it takes like a twenty games to get ONE pop, which makes the trap feel next to pointless. If I wanted to run Myers, I'd be Myers. Still doesn't change that I run Pig to be fun and just harass players (which the buffs have made a LOT more fun), but I'd to USE my cool gimmick.
10:07 the ds buff is why dh is becoming increasingly popular. Same thing with ub. You're going to see dh ds on average 2 times per lobby minimum, and you'll see ub paired with it about half as much.
Also a Pig main--she feels quite a lot better to play now. Survivors can't just W away from loops for free if you're holding the pallet with your M2 anymore, and stealth is a lot more viable now with faster crouch.
Friends til the End imo is her best perk. if you hook the obsession it's possible you can interrupt someone on a box. as an m1 killer getting info and temporary insta down snowballs even more combined with her slowdown. and with this add on combo you can crouch before shack window vault with superior anatomy and dash hitting them before they make shack pallet
2:30 did BHVR make it so snuffing a boon disables the perk? or is this mis-information? I thought only killers lose their perk when a hex is cleansed, and survivors can just go make a new boon if it gets snuffed, unless you have shattered hope and can destroy the totem when you snuff the boon. Even with shattered hope they can just go to a different totem to place their boon, until you break them all.
After seeing this I video can now conclude that they *NEED* to nerf Freddy. In all realness, thank you for the interesting video, Tofu. I'm bad at Pig, so it's fun to see *good* gameplay and boops for a change. 🐷
I definitely did notice the upped brightness at the start of the video. I think it’s a small touch too bright, but it’s not a big deal if it stays like this, either!!
Crazy. Last night a pig literally followed me around the map in ambush while my box was ticking down. I was on death hook so there was literally nothing I could do except die. If the pig is near you in ambush the timer should also be paused
At first I thought the title must be wrong.. I expected more something like; BHVR nerfed pig again, how bad is she now? But apparently I was wrong^^. I'm happy they gave her some love
Def pinhead just for the fact that he has the ability to stop everyone on gens at once and can teleport across the entire map. However pig has to trap all 4 of them to pull that off which is very rare and even if you do it doesn’t do anything while you’re chasing someone with it on but pinhead has chains constantly harassing you in chase on top of stopping their gens. You could maybe argue that their base chase powers are similar in strength. But overall pinhead will def win more games at the highest level
The only thing when playing against survivors as pig that isn't fair, is that the survivors have the ability to see where they can take off their traps at. They should allow pig to see her jigsaw stations like the survivors, like how it used to be. If not, they should remove that ability for survivors that gives them an advantage .
I reckon the resurgence of Dead Hard is due to some of the older players coming back to the game/to the perk. I know a lot of members of the survivor community who outright quit because it got “nerfed”. Now they’re starting to come back to the game (maybe through the RUclips cycle) and are rediscovering Dead Hard again. Other community members stopped using it out of spite for the devs which is so in character for this community. Everything comes in cycles, I’m sure a time will come again where ds and dh are merged again.
I mean, I recall old dead hard literally ripping downs from me, like I would do stellar mind games then it would be fucked because my opponent pressed e, the old dash was very rough to play against at least for me, it just felt so skill less, at least the endurance rework required some sort of timing in order to pull off
The reviving of dh is prob cuz big content creators making builds and using it in matches. Then again people could’ve also just seen that it’s not that bad.
Not how you used to be good at this game, he's welcome to complain about it, you're welcome to disagree. But I think we can almost all agree this was never the fun part of dbd, fun chases good pathing and looping. And the biggest thing of all was the difference between the old community and this new I want to win at any cost no matter how I play type of game play.
Still think John's Medical File should be basekit. Her stealth only works against newer players anyway. It makes her kind of oppressive on closed maps, but who cares? This killer is pretty much an M1 against veterans. BTW Ruin + Undying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Balancing a game like this seems so hard. I stopped playing after like 10 hours because I was awful and every game was me getting destroyed, learning nothing, so every killer seemed OP as hell lmao. Trying to balance everything around such a wide array of skill levels must be a nightmare. EDIT: oh it was actually 60 hours. Well, that's more depressing.
So that Yun in the first game was cheating right? "Great" weird pathing almost like she could see him through walls, insane pick up off the floor with no perks that would make it that quick... Sus
Evil BHVR be like:
"Oh, it seems The Twins are overperforming just a little bit."
"Let's buff The Pig."
Finally
Pig got these buffs way befoe new Twins :D
What's funny is this is actually a really good game design principle called positive reinforcement. It's just buffing the weakest thing in the game until everything is viable and powerful, and only needing to nerf if unintended consequences come up (like exploits to get out of the map). It's super engaging, although it's hard to do
Tofu been on a rampage with these uploads! Good to have the king back!
Hell yea we need those funny montages too! Brings me joy not having to search hours for something good to watch. AGHHHHHH THE VOICES AGGGHHHHH
Fr I just refollowed after a year of being unsubscribed. Glad he’s back
My favorite way to play Pig has always been Jump Scare Pig, where you use her brown add-on that increases her crouch movement speed with her red add-on that lets her see nearby auras while crouched. Then I just Ambush out of crouch for easy hits. These buffs Pig got recently just make that playstyle even better since her crouch speed is even faster Ambushing out of stealth works even more reliably now.
then you camp with an RPD offering? last 3 pigs ive seen use those items thats all they do
@@DeputyFish No, I hate map offerings, I never use them. I wish they weren't in the game at all.
Maybe Ruin/Undying are getting cleansed because they're not doing gens, and instead running around to get traps off and running into the hexes. Since they don't have active traps (maybe because of Ruin) they have the time to cleanse the totems before taking the traps off.
ruin and undying is wasted perk slots.
Ruin should be at least 110% imo, I don't want it to be op again but it's super underwhelming for a Hex perk
@@epblu It was fine at 200% tbh
@@blueboy1958 Nah I get why that went away, got old playing Survivor and just knowing every match would be drawn out as hell because of that perk. But right now it's kinda pathetic for a perk that can be cleansed. There's a balance to be found somewhere in there.
@@epblu If you don't want matches to drag out, then cleanse it.
Watching Tofu play pig is so therapeutic for some reason
I think he was pointing to do the comp thing where you get a little extra distance, and he didn't realize she was going to take a hit. He points again a few seconds later when you do get a hit off :)
Really love this style of video! I feel like there's something for everyone with all the tips and tricks, and as a newer player, it really helps to see the macro thought process / ideal strategy for the killer as well as survivors 😊
*gets absolutely wrecked by a survivor* “honestly guys, my brightness is too high let me know in the comments as well” lmaoooo
As a Pig main, the buffs are definitely good, especially with the dash addons. Some content creators just exaggerated during the PTB and made it sound like it's suddenly the best anti-chase power in the game or something - It's not. It's just now a solid option at shorter loops because it isn't completely countered by holding W.
What a lot of people don't talk about is one of the few nerfs to her kit the patch introduced - not being able to see jigsaw box auras. I believe the reasoning behind this was to prevent Pig from just following survivors forever to ensure a headpop, but it doesn't actually accomplish that, and in fact might make it worse. Especially for newer Pig players who may not have the best survivor tracking or sense of jigsaw box spawning. Experienced players will still be able to interrupt box searches, and inexperienced players will be less likely to leave trapped players to their searches, because they can't reliably patrol boxes any more.
Adding on to this as a fellow Pig main, it makes her feel much more like a Myers-type killer, which she can't really be unless CONSTANTLY crouched (And I keep running through my supply of red addons like a coffee addict at Starbucks for aura sensing). It kinda forces you to camp maybe one or two boxes instead of risk finding the others, ESPECIALLY on maps you're not as comfy with or haven't memorized the box placements. I think it also de-incentivizes her traps even more, why bother if you can't reliably intercept the removal? It's tough enough to get them to pop anyways.
Even six months later, it's REDUCED the amount of trap pops I've had (Which were low to begin with). Sometimes it takes like a twenty games to get ONE pop, which makes the trap feel next to pointless. If I wanted to run Myers, I'd be Myers.
Still doesn't change that I run Pig to be fun and just harass players (which the buffs have made a LOT more fun), but I'd to USE my cool gimmick.
Tofu the type of guy to just now cover a buff after a while
omg several new videos within the week, we're getting blessed
10:07 the ds buff is why dh is becoming increasingly popular. Same thing with ub. You're going to see dh ds on average 2 times per lobby minimum, and you'll see ub paired with it about half as much.
Yeah we're coming full circle back to 2018 lobbies one update at a time
Okay as a Pig main who hasn’t played the game in months, I am hyped and hopeful by this title
She has been buffed for like 3 months at this point lol
Also a Pig main--she feels quite a lot better to play now. Survivors can't just W away from loops for free if you're holding the pallet with your M2 anymore, and stealth is a lot more viable now with faster crouch.
3:40 just noticed the name of the survivors, they are gold
Another fantastic Tofu video! I have been loving the recent video uploads. Super enjoyable -^^-
Friends til the End imo is her best perk. if you hook the obsession it's possible you can interrupt someone on a box. as an m1 killer getting info and temporary insta down snowballs even more combined with her slowdown. and with this add on combo you can crouch before shack window vault with superior anatomy and dash hitting them before they make shack pallet
FTTE isnt great on killers with no mobility tho
@@Jonrocks7 with the DS buff how often is your obsession gonna be close to hook
@@rileyp1506 not that much, and if they use DS they are already injured and your tunneling them :/
@@Jonrocks7 FTTE is a strong info perk even without the exposed effect. The exposed is a nice bonus, not the main event.
When DH got nerfed I said it would be meta again 6 months later and everyone laughed at me. Well now.
It’s still bad
2:30 did BHVR make it so snuffing a boon disables the perk? or is this mis-information? I thought only killers lose their perk when a hex is cleansed, and survivors can just go make a new boon if it gets snuffed, unless you have shattered hope and can destroy the totem when you snuff the boon. Even with shattered hope they can just go to a different totem to place their boon, until you break them all.
It was mis-information yes
i dont even care wat ur vids r about. i just love watching u😂❤ ur funny . ur commentary is amazing😂😂
Tofu my guy... Play with your food affects the speed of the ambush attack if you didn't know :D
that feeling when she walks down the stairs 🤯🧠💹💰
After seeing this I video can now conclude that they *NEED* to nerf Freddy.
In all realness, thank you for the interesting video, Tofu. I'm bad at Pig, so it's fun to see *good* gameplay and boops for a change. 🐷
gamer man is back!
Fat Tofu W as always, I’m loving the upload schedule. Keep up the great work 👍
Ok, this one was great! I knew she was better, but Pig really is a more viable killer now.
These are good brightness settings for youtube. I can see more in the darker maps
I definitely did notice the upped brightness at the start of the video. I think it’s a small touch too bright, but it’s not a big deal if it stays like this, either!!
This pig buff is the reason I started playing dbd again
BHVR: How can we nerf the pig this patch?
BHVR CEO: Make all her numbers smaller muahahaha
Crazy. Last night a pig literally followed me around the map in ambush while my box was ticking down. I was on death hook so there was literally nothing I could do except die. If the pig is near you in ambush the timer should also be paused
No
No matter what Perks I use my HEX Totems are always in the open unless I play Naughty Bear then I seem to have 90% value out of Devour Hope :D
More bean curd man?!?! Hells yeah!
Holy fucking shit. Thank you for uploads man))
May the algorithm ever be in your favor
At first I thought the title must be wrong.. I expected more something like; BHVR nerfed pig again, how bad is she now? But apparently I was wrong^^. I'm happy they gave her some love
Now that Pig has an actual chase power alongside slowdown, who is better, Pig or Pinhead?
pig.
I think pinhead is definitely better but way harder to use efficiently. Against a good pinhead it's hard to get much done imo
Def pinhead just for the fact that he has the ability to stop everyone on gens at once and can teleport across the entire map. However pig has to trap all 4 of them to pull that off which is very rare and even if you do it doesn’t do anything while you’re chasing someone with it on but pinhead has chains constantly harassing you in chase on top of stopping their gens. You could maybe argue that their base chase powers are similar in strength. But overall pinhead will def win more games at the highest level
Love the videos. Dude keep it up
I just tested this and it’s amazing! Pig feels much better to play, you can snipe them from pretty far too
As a Pig main, this a certified classic. 🐷
The only thing when playing against survivors as pig that isn't fair, is that the survivors have the ability to see where they can take off their traps at. They should allow pig to see her jigsaw stations like the survivors, like how it used to be. If not, they should remove that ability for survivors that gives them an advantage .
yo Tofu, might want to update the link to the vods channel
Nerf pig, nerf yung cra$$us and finally nerf tracer thank you.
great video fu man
I reckon the resurgence of Dead Hard is due to some of the older players coming back to the game/to the perk. I know a lot of members of the survivor community who outright quit because it got “nerfed”. Now they’re starting to come back to the game (maybe through the RUclips cycle) and are rediscovering Dead Hard again. Other community members stopped using it out of spite for the devs which is so in character for this community. Everything comes in cycles, I’m sure a time will come again where ds and dh are merged again.
Pig is looking kinda fun to play actually
Funny how when I decide to come back so does tofu. What excellent timing 😁
Just in time for my lunch break!!
AT 2:52 and yeah noooo.
if her "power" is crouching to stealth then Ghostface is a FAR better killer.
woooo consistent tofu woooooo
Id toss the hexes and get other gen control perks. But you do you. Most people know how to find the hexes quickly from my experience.
I was wearing sunglasses while watching this video
Nanananananana BUFFED PIIIIIG
Seems like it’s time to get my 125 (or however many) bear traps on survivors for the achievement
My mans Tofu is back on the grind and I’m loving every second of it.
but will we ever seen deceive inc gameplay?🤔
I still use whispers on pig and do not feel slightly bad about it
dh was never really bad imo, people just need excuses for never learning the basics of chasing in dbd
I mean, I recall old dead hard literally ripping downs from me, like I would do stellar mind games then it would be fucked because my opponent pressed e, the old dash was very rough to play against at least for me, it just felt so skill less, at least the endurance rework required some sort of timing in order to pull off
It was never a broken perk, it was just the second chance that it gives overall. Same thing with DS.
I'm here because Tofu told me I have to be nice to the algorithm.
They buffed pig? Great. Now to nerf Freddy
The reviving of dh is prob cuz big content creators making builds and using it in matches. Then again people could’ve also just seen that it’s not that bad.
Haven't even watched the vid yet but I know I'll like it so, comment for the algorithm
My fav part of the video was were tofu was gushing about a survivor just holding W. sad thing is, that is how you be good at this game :
Not how you used to be good at this game, he's welcome to complain about it, you're welcome to disagree. But I think we can almost all agree this was never the fun part of dbd, fun chases good pathing and looping. And the biggest thing of all was the difference between the old community and this new I want to win at any cost no matter how I play type of game play.
@@reedhamburglar1467 heh, rose tinted my dude. it has always been like this, players just got better at the game is all.
Still think John's Medical File should be basekit. Her stealth only works against newer players anyway.
It makes her kind of oppressive on closed maps, but who cares? This killer is pretty much an M1 against veterans.
BTW Ruin + Undying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
For the algorithm, babyyy
tofu tryna get pig nerfed smh
Another one!
I wish traps were not so useless now😢
How about lowering huntress' humming so I can actually stand listening to her for more than 4 seconds
Sorry, Master Tofu, but I still think Pig is a joke.
This is hot content
Heyo, my favorite soybean twitch streamer ❤
matchmaking is sadly still so shit and toxic that I won't rejoin but I certainly will start to watch again some dbd! :D
Yay the fu guy 🙂
Hey tofu!!!
commenting for interaction points ^^
Dang. I guess BHVR has no choice but to nerf Pig. You hate to see it 😔
Notice me Senpai Tofu
give nano
nice
Pig nerf incoming again
Hi Tofu
Hello
NERF PIG OPPPP
Balancing a game like this seems so hard. I stopped playing after like 10 hours because I was awful and every game was me getting destroyed, learning nothing, so every killer seemed OP as hell lmao. Trying to balance everything around such a wide array of skill levels must be a nightmare.
EDIT: oh it was actually 60 hours. Well, that's more depressing.
OH MY GOD IM FINALLY FIRST
Comment for the algorithm
LET'S GO BABY, WE TRICKING THIS AI REAL GOOD
👍
Okay, you do not need to talk for every second in your video. Do you ever pause to breath?
2nd comment!!!!!! What’s uppppp
Pigs getting dangerously close to Chucky in terms of "free hit off power" no?
Tofus going to get Pig NERFED. Typical.. 🙄
Comment
To encourage more videos
pig gets buffed.
oh wait chucky exist. why would i play pig
So that Yun in the first game was cheating right? "Great" weird pathing almost like she could see him through walls, insane pick up off the floor with no perks that would make it that quick... Sus
Wiretap for the walls, circle of healing and exponential for the pickup
Exponential was still up at the time, and she ran into him multiple times when he was cutting her off. She just got lucky on some 50/50's
@@brandonfulton4402 exponential and circle of healing plus the other teammate probably picking her up it adds up to me
@happynao3782 you right tier 3 is 16 seconds
All four players on RPD had Breakdown.
Since Pig is so strong...we decided to nerf Legion 🫂