Sometimes I just get floored by just how massive things are in Monster Hunter. A baby or at least juvenile Duramboros is already larger and certainly heavier than a human, and would likely be classified as megafauna in our world.
Duramboros's helicopter tail spin isn't actually a time waster. The long spinning wind-up portion of the attack only has a hitbox on the tail club, so once you get past the club (or if you were already inside), you have a gigantic opening to attack its legs. Dealing enough damage to the legs during this causes Duramboros to trip, granting you another large opening to attack.
Not only that, but toppling Duramboros from it's helicopter spin will leave it's humps vulnerable, once broken it becomes an incredibly juicy hitzone for all damage classes.
If Duramboros was to get the World treatment, I think something that could work with it is the idea of endemic life sticking to and growing on the body, in a sort of symbiotic relationship, considering how plant life already grows on its body, it would make sense for smaller animals to grow on their as well, maintaining its body like how the oxpecker is with African Rhinos.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel I think an interesting idea would be that maybe,you could also use the endemic life scattered via markings,tracks,etcto track the monster throughout the map.
I feel like that wouldn't work cause duramboros is a very aggressive via being a spinny angry boss. His back is more rock like, meaning you can mine while he's down much like zinogre you can catch bugs on his bag if you have a net. Plus the endemic life on duramboros whilst he's fighting would eventually die and eggs left by birds would just get crushed
I personally think that the Hoarfrost Reach was a lowland coniferous forest that surrounded the volcano. Mostly because of Viper Tobi which, despite generally being a hated subspecies, I think has one of the greatest mysteries to it by its mere existence, considering how much it stands out next to the rest of the Hoarfrost cast. It would show how this change from volcanic lowland forest to boreal would have affected some monsters. Banbaro afaik is an 'invader' because the Hoarfrost's much colder temperatures result in lower food quality and abundance, so a lot of the population is migrating out. Versus poor viper tobi who seems to basically be a species whose habitat isn't around anymore. With its poor insulation and camouflage it might very well be on the brink of extinction, with relic populations remaining largely in insulated caves and springs.
Viper tobi is fine (to fight). Takes some specific skills to make it less difficult, but honestly, I don't think he is a bad fight, and I quite like him. That said what you mentioned is funny to me, as if anything, regular Tobi would be MORE suited to Hoarfrost Reach than Viper Tobi. I think Viper Tobi still survives because of the caves of Hoarfrost, as they more brown and therefore would suit him more. He would have an ambush niche as the caves are traversed by certain monsters in order to get some warmth through the springs, And paralysis and toxic would help it kill without using too much energy.
Both are great examples that herbivore doesn't mean a completely harmless and dull creature and that they're just as important and notable as the carnivores and other monsters in their ecosystems
@@davidegaruti2582 Thats not quiet true. Eating mostly Protein makes Carnivores much more robust, they much harder to harm, and can survive some insane shit. Gorillas wouldnt stand a Chance to a Bear of equal Size. But it is true what about 85 Hunting Atempts end in Failure for most Species.
The giant herbivores are always a treat considering the saturation of predators in the franchise, it's nice to see more monsters that tolerate other animals and even humans if not bothered. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for a video on Kulve Taroth since her behavior and el dorado as a whole are quite interesting, the entire area might just made for courtship and maybe they eat ores like gold and gilding the entire area is showing off how well of a female is. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this and maybe perhaps what a male might look like.
Another important thing to note with Kulve Taroth is it might be probable, and I believe mentioned, that not all of her species just like gold. Look at the arch-tempered Kulve Taroth with the more platinum coloration. It would be interesting to see different Kulves that collect different metals to adapt with their environment.
3:40 I understand that human biology is much less your wheelhouse than general ecology, but it's been found that not only are countries that consume much more sodium (such as countries that eat kimchi, a high sodium fermented vegetable dish, with every meal) have better health outcomes on average. In addition to this there was a study that found that as much as 6X the FDA recommended amount of salt a day showed better results than the actual recommendation. Now, 6X is likely too much, but it goes to show that the FDA recommended salt intake is very clearly too low. Especially because it's much easier to just evacuate extra salt through peeing than it is to retain salt to make up for a deficit.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel no problem man, the channel 'what I've learned' has some really interesting videos on human biology specifically in relation to diet. Stuff like is meat really bad for you, the difference that protein quality makes, the biological effect of fasting... Etc.
@@imperialphoenix1229 Honestly i can see that Most Eastern country have their food much saltier than Westren Country due to either fermentation or just the way they cook food ended up resulting with more Salt than Fat and Oil Where as the West food are much Fattier and Oil but less Salt
Considering that the classification system in the Monster Hunter world is more based on physical characteristics rather than genetics, it may be possible that Brute Wyverns like Duramboros and Banbaro evolved from, or at the very least shared a similar ancestry as, Herbivores, specifically ones like Apceros and Aptonoth, to a lesser extent Larinoth, and quite possibly Kestodon. They do share similar features. An herbivorous diet, large clubbed tail, considerably large size, and an armored head and back; Kestodon is also bipedal. The main difference being the Brutes adapting to foraging and browsing on shrubs and trees while the Herbivores (save for Larinoth who feed from the treetops) stayed grazers and low-browsers on all fours (save for Kestodon). Also, if the Duramboros stomach diagram is still accurate, then this would imply that Duramboros (and possibly Banbaro) came from an herbivorous line rather than a carnivorous one like most other Brute Wyverns.
@@marcoasturias8520 Yeah, a classification I despise is Pukei-pukei being considered a Bird Wyvern because of how much it ganked-up what makes a bird. Which I know there are some pretty strange Bird Wyverns, ones that don't have feathers or have long stretchy tails. But the only thing that'd make Pukei a bird is the fact it has feathers and could fly, which is something that not all Bird Wyverns do. It does not have a beak, it's head and eyes aren't even remotely bird-like, it has a long stretchy tongue, and a tail that sprays poison. Bishaten has a beak, feathers, and can fly, so by that reasoning it's more of a bird than Pukei is. It's like that Greek philosopher dude that said a featherless biped is a man, to which some smartass held up to him a featherless chicken.
@@pwojo9776 Diogenes, the ultimate smartass of Greek philosophers "A man is a featherless biped" *Door gets kicked down, and a raw plucked chicken is held up* "BEHOLD, A MAN"
Been saying it for years, I think there's a niche in the world for these classifications and several monsters have traded strategies as they conquered new habitats. Advanced Fanged wyverns with erect postures like Zinogre and Odogaron might have developed from something like the psudeo wyverns explaining their stronger arms and upturned digits. Meanwhile Anjanath resembles a raptorial bird wyvern that got big like the family history of Tyrannosaurus. Miztutsune and Aulmadron look like mammals that went back to the water. The possibilities hidden in their evolutionary history is almost endless. The only cannon bit I know is psudeo wyverns definitely came first before the flying wyverns, hence why Tigrex is said to be like a living fossil, flying wyverns that went back to the ground seem to adopt the bipedal design because of their already changed posture like the blos and gravios species.
While I don't think an open-world monster hunter game would work practically without a complete overhaul of the core gameplay loop, I can see why the potential for monsters like nercsylla, duramboros, banbaro, almudron, the magalas, and others to actually change the enviroment would be cool to see. Also, Tetsucabra and Duramboros were cheated in MH stories 2. We could have 5 rathalos, 2 of which were only available postgame via updates, but heaven forbid you wanted a decent power monstie that was not either a fire monstie or rajang.
I made this very same argument about stories 2 and you know what I was called? Ungreatful and entitled!! XD it's like okay this guy literally claimed that every varient of rsthalos and rathiam are different monsters. I'm like yes but no. Durambaros and Tetsucabra could have easily been made as monsties
@@mudshrooze There actually is a pretty major reason, as they actually planned to do that but then the Pandemic happened. Monsties for Duramboros, Daimyo Hermitaur, and I think a few others were found in the files for Stories 2.
It's an interesting change from just more giant carnivores, since Monster Hunter has a bit of a carnivore bias with its large monsters. I love that Banbaro looks like a giant moose, especially since moose can be surprisingly intimidating (especially mature bull males) under certain circumstances - despite being herbivores - arguably just as much as brown bears and cougars. Please do a video on Nargacuga next
Living in Alaska my entire 27 years I cam tell you moose are a more consistent sight than bears like every day kind of sight. They live near humans. Cities, villages, towns. Bear son the other hand you'll only find if you are camping or live in the deep wood most the time. Moose tend to be harmless up until you get within 10 feet. Even then if you dont move close to them they'll just watch you until your far enough way Years of adaptation has always made it so that parent moose teach their children to walk across the road instead of run. Youd think that's bs but legit when a moose or animal runs across the road suddenly their chances of getting hit skyrocket compared to a steady walking pace
@@unicorntomboy9736 just last week a newborn moose walked towards me and got within a cars length of me. I'd love to pet one but where theirs a baby theirs a momma. And low and behold the momma stood up from lying in the fire weeds. I just waved said hello and backed away peacefully
I love banbaro and he sits firmly on my top five monsters. Love his bulldozing shenanigans and I just wish he was higher tier. His armor was also one of my favorite designs and the hoarfrost reach theme is such a banger to fight him with. Hopefully we get more giant herbivores soon.
I've never really seen Duramboros' spin as a time waste attack as hitting the legs during it results in a topple giving you one of the only ways of reaching the weak zone.
I feel like the Banbaro roaming thing could be more acceptable if it had different coats based on where its fought, with a darker, shorter coat for the warmer regions, and the usual heavy white coat for Colder areas. It'd really just be a reskin but it would really add a lot
Although it's off topic and is about another monster. What could possibly the reason that Agnaktor and Uroktor communicate with beak clapping instead of growls, hissing and similar sounds? Could it be that the vulcanic environment would drown out such noises due to the rumbling etc in the background and the beak clapping is more distinct and thus more noticeable?
If I had to hazard a guess, Agnakator and Uroktor likely have awful eyesight, and what eyesight they have isn't useful when moving through stone or magma. In turn, they likely have very good hearing or tactile sensitivity in order to locate what they need to from underground. Large, sudden, deliberate movements like their beak clacking probably transmits better through their substrate than smaller, gradual vibrations like hissing or growling. Sound moves very fast through heated rock, but the irregular structure means that tones and sounds are often distorted, so a frequency based communication system is likely more effective.
Duramboros's tail spin is actually a great time to get in and do damage, the wasted time is a punishment for not getting the (admittedly easy) timing right
I wished duramboros was in rise because i want to see his gear in hd and also rise brute Wyvern cast is so weak like wtf not in term of how tough they are to figth because their is only 2 of them right now
I'm pretty stoked you talked about ruminant stomach microbiomes and how important they are, I think it's easy to forget how important our unseen friends can be. Though it's a bit off topic, it's also interesting that fecal transplants can be a means to treat people with a couple of types of bacterial infections instead of antibiotics. Anyways, awesome video as always.
These are some of the videos I enjoy the most, MH hervivores are just so interesting. Always shared that thought of Banbaro being too weak for its size ever since iceborne came out, it feels weird, let alone its role as an invader and even more so when it shows up on the lava filled areas. And how cool would it be if Duramboros actually got the world ecosystem treatment with a diablos-like turf war against other bulls of the same species. I need more of those so bad
Barroth will always be my favorite Brute wyvern. Regular Barroth obviously. But I find the majority of my top 50 monsters are in the Brute category. Including Durambaros Banbaros Brachydios Raadoban Fulgar Anjanath Uragaan
I swear I'm starting to get an instinct for these videos. Three of fourseparate times now I've clicked on the YT homepage and a new video will have been uploaded like 10 minutes ago. Nothing makes me happier.
Great episode yet again! I personally love Duramburos, and I'd love to see the Rust subspecies have a turf war with Diablos. Duramburos' moss and fungi coating makes me wonder if it would have any symbiotic endemic life using the wyvern as a sort of moving microbiome
Yeah I think Duramboros gets too much flack. Sure it doesn't have awfully varied moveset, but it really isn't that long fight if you can trip him every time he does the spin attack. Then you have access to one of the weakest weaksposts in the game history during that time (some 5th gen monsters have weaker spots).
Leave it to UHC to not only make me appreciate two brutes that I for the longest time just thought of as " the helicopter and the snowball bulldozer" but also make me rethink the overall evolutionary resoning behind why pandas subsist off of bamboo and lead me to fall fown a rabbit hole of how dietary needs do not entirely equate to dietary preferences within an organism's lifestyle, all within a nice concise video package. Quality stuff as always man
Duramboros will always have a special place in my heart, it's easily my favorite monster in the series for a number of reasons. 3U was my first game in the series and I was only ~11 at the time so I wasn't really able to grasp the complexity of skills and elements and whatnot, I played hammer because it did big damage and just used whatever armor I thought looked the coolest. I definately carted a lot, but I never hit a complete wall until I got to Duramboros. I just couldn't kill it in time, either I'd throw myself at it until I ran out of supplies and died or I'd run out of time because it has *so* much damn HP. It was really frustrating, but as a hammer main I could *tell* this thing would give me a cool hammer once I killed it so I didn't want to give up. I had to change my approach and wound up really digging into the skill system which is what got me hooked on Monster Hunter as a whole. Probably wouldn't be playing still if the game never made me learn it like that.
Reused turf war animations in IB felt exceptionally weird to me with Banbaro vs beotodus, I get that their role is pretty much the same as barroth and jyura but it still felt awkward seeing beo trying to wrap around Banbaro, almost double the size of Barroth... Tho I guess the initial impact from below makes more sense thanks to its giant horn
What a banger! I've already loved duramboros, this episode with respect to duramboros just feels complete. Incredible work. The comparison with diablos digestion was really interesting. It's true that cacti are much simpler to digest, but this made me think again about the adaptations of cacti and how they work in monster hunter. Because they're not toxic like succulent euphorbias, with or without mean spines, i ask myself who the cacti of monster hunter are actually deterring with their single layer of defense. In the dominican republic where giant sloths went extinct just some millenia ago the cacti on the ground are all equipped with stiff spines, while the pads of the tree-like consolea moniliformis don't grow any spines above a height where large herbivores would have been able to reach. So diablos... maybe he's just too tough to care? Afterall it's the endangered cyclura iguana that still climbs the spiny trunk to munch on the cactus' fruits. I seriously wonder where these cacti are coming from and staying the way they are. With the animals in the focus, the plants might just be an afterthought and in the end, i don't mind it all too much. Duraboros' helicopter attack is supposed to get leg staggered during the spinning, which will trip it in a way, where the humps are right in front of you. It's definitely still annoying to get around sometimes but learning to effectively trip it out of that attack is just the best way to cutting off a lot of tme from the hunt. Maybe it can feel like this gimmick happens too much though, i can agree, but i think it's still neat design.
Yeah I don't think Capcom envisioned making their environments quite so holistically. But, cacti still have spines seems to imply it's a 'only diablos is allowed to eat us' situation. Diablos may be an important seed disperser or fulfil some other role that benefits the cacti in its bulk feeding of them.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel That sounds really good actually and reminds me of another thing. The opuntioideae cacti. that he feeds on don't only rely on seed dispersal. While that might establish new populations whereever the diablos' feces end up when it's roaming its territory, stems of opuntioideae cacti that fall to the ground will often take root in a kind of clonal reproduction process. The jumping cholla being pretty well known for this. So the populations it feeds on may also persist either because it's a sloppy eater or maybe because it knows to leave some around. I can definitely see it being benificial to get pruned by a diablos.
6:39 Y’know, ever since I found out that baby koalas consume a derived form of their mother’s feces, I’ve never been able to look at those Koala Care changing stations in public bathrooms the same way.
How I just remembered something: Slagtoth are quadrupedal herbivore with longer back limbs that can stay for an extented period of time on its back leg to look around. Maybe they have a common ancestor with Duramboros and Banbaro?
I'm unaware whether it's been brought up before, but personally, I believe Duramboros and Banbaro to not only be relatives of each other, but Kestodon and possibly Gastodon as well. I also think both of them, like Kestodon, are, or are at least derived from Pachycephalosaurids. If you look at Slagtoth and Rhenoplos, two clearly Ceratopsian adjacent monsters, both feature external ears, just like Kestodon, Duramboros and Banbaro, so I like to think external ears are a trait that evolved within MH's surviving lineage of Marginocephalians.
On that note, I always had this thought maybe Brachydios and Barroth share some connection cause of their shared strong forearms, armored head and tails as well as the fact both attach debri onto their bodies. Like maybe a barroth-like ancestor accidentally rubbed itself with the slime mold and found its armor to be enough to protect it from the blast but not other monsters that try attacking it.
Finally a video about my boy Duramboros. Duramboros probably has very good balance considering it doesn't trip unless being repeatedly hit during spinning or if it is exhausted. I know the reason is more about the game mechanic of hiding the super weak weakspot (the hump) but I like to think they are just that good at balancing anyway.
It'll be interesting to see in the future your thoughts on espinas now that it's been canonized into the main series. And as always another informative watch keep up the good work!
Banbaro being an invader is something that I've always been nitpicky about. Even with their adaptability, locales like the Rotten Vale and Elder Recess are poor choices for Banbaro to inhabit. Lore/Ecology wise; while these areas may secretly have plentiful amount of nourishment for it, they're also inhabited by some of the most dangerous monsters in the New World, like Tigrex and Glavenus. While Banbaro may put up a fight, chance are that it'll lose to them or even get killed. Gameplay wise; I feel like why Capcom put Banbaro everywhere was so its antler plow attack gives you different status affects when you fight it. Yes, it was neat, but in some cases it can get annoying. Honestly, I feel that Fulgernath did the invader schtick better.
I wish that we could see the herbivores get some love in, say, Title Updates, but the inclination towards oneupsmanship and the bigger, badder monster fight makes me afraid we won't get that unless it's a variant of some kind. Though I'd love a like "Ancient Duramboros" or something in the Citadel that's old enough that small trees and such grow on it. Anything to get more variety other than 'here's an even more fierce top-order carnivore or Elder Dragon'. Don't get me wrong: I loved all the fights in the recent Sunbreak update, but watching these videos has made me yearn for a greater variance in monsters and behaviours. Also hurrah for Tea Common Shark!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't like how Banbaro wondered out of an environment it seemed specifically tailored to. While we're on the subject, I didn't like how monsters first introduced into World (for example, Pukei Pukei and Anjanath) made themselves known in the Old World. Not because I don't like these monsters, but because it just removed the uniqueness of the New World. Part of what makes lemurs and Giant tortoises so fascinating is that they have evolved almost completely independently from other animals as a means of surviving on what is essentially a spec of dust that is completely different from the rest of the world. The monsters from the new world gave me that vibe, especially since one of the main themes of the game was to explore and discover new land and new animals. Seeing them outside of the New World destroyed that.
One thing that I wish had an explanation is why Beotodus and Barioth attempt to attack banbaro Beotodus in particular looks like equipped to taking popo ang juvenile Banbaro rather than adults as prey. and in truth both Beotodus and Banbaros turf war is recycled from barroth and jyuratodus so it’s likely a fight between the two is either uncommon or unlikely. Barioth is also probably unable to hunt adult banbaro all the time as well. Occasional predation on weak or old adults is probably going to happen but a healthy adult banbaro is probably unable to be hunted by Barioth. As ever amazing work my friend, I cannot wait to see what comes in the mer creature. Good day!
Personally I’m a fan of how Duramboros uses its tail as a counterbalance and exploits its weight when attacking. Yes the animation goes on for a while, but I’ve always found it easy to get under it and knock it down. I think it’s a clever fighting style that separates Duramboros from the glut of head-focused brute wyverns like Barroth and Uragaan.
Really great video, I love these two so it's nice to see them get a video dedicated to them. Their role in ecosystems and the suggestion that they even aid in recovering ecosystems from elder dragon tomfoolery is another great point for them. Would love to see Duramboros return as well, and hopefully it gets a turf war where it can really put that heft to work much like what Diablos has gotten. Also if passive until provoked behaviors are brought back I definitely think Duramboros would fit that bill, unless the males that are fought are full of testosterone as what's been suggested for Mizutsune. Not much to add, though a small point on Duramboros' helicopter spin is that I think it's a great move that would fit well with the flow of modern fights. If you roll under its tail to its legs, you can topple it with enough damage, so the move is a high risk-high reward type of attack since you get a pretty long knock down to get at it's humps for damage.
giant, strong herbivores and wild little carnivores are easily my favorite types of critter (probably why Black Diablos and Odogaron are my favorites..) and the only thing i like more is listening to their ecology and watching their behavior be supported by traits real animals in our world. i swear, these kinds of videos are like my ketamine lol. big thank you to, well. you! the videos on the blos wyverns and odogaron has helped me exponentially in working in how they would behave as a riders monstie. i won’t get into it here because the comment would be too long to post lol. (yes i have seen the debates about riders in the several comment sections across certain monster hunter videos, and i’d like to add that it was a plot point in the first game that you don’t actually need the kinship stone to be a rider and it seems to be more of a cultural identifier, as frostfang told you to fuck off when he was protecting avinia in the wintertide tunnel before he recognized you as a rider, so no riders do not control the monsters using magical powers) but thank you. it’s given me a ton of useful insight!
While I do have problems with Banbaro being in a wide variety of environments for no reason, but it rolling up a ball of fiery rock in the horns is rad
Hey man, thank you for the videos I study biology, but I couldn't get any biology centered stuff this semester, so this videos are great to keep learning and stay focused while going through the rest
Surprised to see Rust Duramboros wasn't mentioned, with its hump being larger likely as storing reserves is a lot more important in the desert habitat it lives in, yet the tail being shaped like an axe apparently for swiping sand (according to 3U description at least)? That said nice video, I really love both monsters and it pisses me off Duramboros isn't a monstie in the Stories saga. Banbaro, let's say I was not expecting it to pull out trees in the middle of the arena.
Loved the discussion of the gradient of fear and nutrient cycling. That was something I've never heard about before, so I learned something today :). Totally agree that Banbaro is a great design but makes no sense as an invader. He's neither threatening nor aggressive so it's not like getting invaded by Jho or his ilk. It's just like oh, hey man, how's it going. I'd love to see Duram again; his fight isn't that hard for his threat tier but he absolutely oozes personality.
Another wonderful video as always! I am a little sad you didn't mention Rust Duramboros, though; I have to wonder how exactly its ecology had to change to adapt to a desert habitat, especially with the 'blos duo to compete with.
If the Duramboross does comeback, I would really want him to be super apathetic to the hunter pre-fight, like what the Espia (forgot how to spell it) is supposed to be in frontier lore. Humans are too small for them/not there preferred prey and don't see us a threats and it is not a obligate carnivore, so the fact we run around so much makes us just not worth the hassle. It would even go so far as to it being a genuine boon to find one on a hunt, cause you might be small and "helpless" but the 12 ft tall carnivore stomping it is an actual threat that Boros will attack. Maybe even let us climb on its back to carve a piece to two before it gets angry.
I personally love that banbaro shows up on all the maps just because I like to think he is just very lost. Also if I’m not mistaken he acts as if he is on the verge of a heat stroke in the hotter areas of the elders recess to really drive home the fact that he shouldn’t be there.
I was talking in a call with my friend about how I recently got into monster hunter and what really drew me in was the dedication they have to creating not just things to hunt and fight, but creatures that could feasibly exist in the world's fictional ecosystem. Like my favorite wyvern, the Pukei-Pukei, likely creates it's poison from the plant matter it eats like the fruits it eats during fights or blue mushrooms it's seen consuming in it's intro for mh rise. (And we know the mushrooms relate to poison as it is used in the crafting of antidote) And the day after that call your videos appeared on my home page. I've completely fallen into this rabbit hole
I've started binging your monster hunter videos and i find them absolutely fascinating. Before going into art i wanted to be a biologist so this is really fun for me to see speculative ecology on all these monsters!! I love the thought and detail you put into this man! Out of curious,ity would you ever do a video on Ludroth? I know it sound strange but i find it fascinating because it kind of acts like/functions like an elephant seal while shaped like a big sea lizard/crocodile. And how do their spongy neck scales even function?
Thank you for briefly defending pandas and koalas there lmao. Its always baffles me how people who know such little about animals and their lives feel like they can make statements about an animal's intelligence or ability to thrive. Banbaro is one of my favorite designs so it was great to see you cover it!
Great video as always! I personally don't see Duramboros' spinning move as a time waste at all. If you're quick about it, you can use it to make it fall over, and if you don't, it makes for a massive spinning death trap you definitely want to get away from. If you want to call it a "time waste", then Alatreon's Escaton Judgement and Fatalis' map-covering flamethrower would be the exact same. On a different note, I'd have *loved* to hear at least some short thoughts on Rust Duramboros. It has always seemed really weird to me that it even exists, so hearing about it from a more educated person would've been cool
Great video again, I do wish Banbaro was given more respect in game, the thing is massive. Its turf war with Beotodus especially looks goofy I think it's mentioned somewhere that Duramboros hibernate (According to BannedLagi anyway), which is likely another reason for the massive humps on its back, feeding it throughout the winter months and this might be when the plant and fungus grow on its back. This ties back into your point about seasons, the Misty Peaks might look very different during the winter than it does in game. Plus it burrows underground during this time, but it might only do so partially, explaining why its nostrils are high on the head (As discussed on Discord). Rust Duramboros also seems like it would be an interesting case to discuss, possibly using the fat in its humps more for water storage than food, and as potential heat shields like camels. It would also be interesting to know whether it competes with the blos wyverns. Since Duramboros eats wood etc. I imagine Monoblos and Rust may compete with one another. Looking forward to the next video, I haven't seen Primeval in like 8 years so it should be a fun one
One thing I could imagine is them being protection for smaller herbivores and animals. Since the hoarfrost is such a dangerous area a group of popo or anteka could spend time around banbaro for protection or slagtoth spending time around Durambaros herds.
Although normal Durambaros might not be as aggressive, Rust Durambaros is outwardly stated to kill other smaller herbivores to reduce competition for limited plant life Banbaro on the other hand I do think wouldn’t mind an Anteka herd following them and probably would provide protection
@@TsulaAngenati2292 which makes sense since he lives in an environment where there is much less food so having other competition could mean death since they would steal food from him.
@@namealreadytaken7116 Exactly. I don’t know if normal Durambaros is that aggressive though since it lives in more fertile and bountiful regions- it would fight large herbivore for them like other Durambaros bulls, but I don’t know if smaller herbivores would be treated with the same aggression
@@TsulaAngenati2292 I feel that the small herbivores probably around slagtoth and aptonoth would be fine but anything exceeding that would be met with a warning.and now that I think about it what other herbivores that are large monsters live in flooded forest and misty peaks.
I love my buffalo and moose Brute wyverns. Banbaro was my favorite monsters introduced in iceborne I've got a special place in my heart for moose. 27 years of living in Alaska seeing them near daily. :)
19:04 about Banbaro as the invader. One thing I noticed about Banbaro armor is that for some reason has a mushroomancer skill, something that don’t usually associate itself with Banbaro. I think that Banbaro don’t eat just plant, but also fungi. The reason why I bring this up is that in Elder Recess, there just so happens to be a chillshrooms that the hunter can used to fight off the heat. The effect of the chillshrooms may affect not just the hunters, but also the monsters. Still find it baffling that Banbaro is an invader, but it could explain why the moose monster can be found in Elder Recess. Correct me if I’m wrong.
YO , was that my boy Tea? Hell yeah, his animations are amazing. As for the monsters themselves, I think Duramboros throwing himself like a hammer is so fucking dumb. I hate it so much. As for Banbaro, he's not a bad fight, he just shouldn't be an invader. Put him in just the Hoarfrost and maybe the Ancient Forest and he'd be an almost perfect early game monster.
If we’re keeping Banbaro going outside of the Hoarfrost I would personally want to make banbaro shed a good amount or at least thin out its coat and grow brown, black, or tan fur when outside the Hoarfrost. Since I feel like it being a massive, white, fluffy animal moving around in the middle of a desert probably makes people question why this thing is even an invader. The coat change will at least do something to make it look like it is actually built to be one by making it not stand out like a sore thumb when it appears right next to say diablos in the wastes or uragaan in the recess.
Banbaro’s one of my favourites design and inspiration-wise. Have yet to fight it myself though. Hopefully they flesh out the herbivore side some more in the near future!
Ay it's very interesting to see clips from Tea Common Shark used as a 'proof of concept' for Duramboros, it really helps drive the points home, always enjoy listening to these videos
I've got an interesting suggestion for you to look at. You should take a look at the unique animals and ecology of Dark Sun, an old D&D setting as well the setting for the Prism Pentad book series ((all of which are available on RUclips as audiobooks for free.)) and a few other books as well. The jist of the setting is that an ancient war has turned the world in a desert wasteland, a very fantasy Mad Max thing going on. Pretty much all the plants and animal are either entirely unique or unique modified versions of existing animals different to our own world. Back a while ago you said you wanted to see a fantasy setting where animals had evolved to use magic like humans and thats the case in Dark Sun. All animals have evolved to use Psionics ((one of three magic systems seen in the setting)) to some degree. In the beginng of the Third Prism Pentad book a character is trying to Psionics to posses the mind of a Kank ((a sort of giant domestic beetle used a beast of burden)) in order to spy on the main character. However the Kank ends up overpowering the character's will with its own psionic defenses and posses his mind instead. He then proceeds to have his body run around on all fours scratching at the walls as he is locked into a fierce mental battle with the creature to regain control over his own body. Its a very unique and i'd love to see the setting get some love in the modern day.
I think the helicopter move is fine to stay. If you time and space correctly, which isn't hard to do, you can exploit this massive opening it gives you as it whirls. What it needs is less openings after every other move. I get that it's massive but the older games showcase it to have a surprising level of agility, using that huge hammer tail as a counterweight to and even launch itself with it.
To be honest I love the fact that herbivores can still treated as dangerous monster in MH universe, like Duramboros and Diablos. Because they ain't gonna kill you because they want to eat you, and even if that's not the case, they will kill you just because they want to hurt you, painfully.
I think you could make duramburos helicopter spin as a punishment for not keeping up an offensive against it, like if it had to do some kind of preventable preparation similar to the AoE afflicted monsters in Sunbreak do. Or maybe make it something you can turn against the creature by goading them into spinning into a wall for a small knockdown. It's definitely too iconic of an attack to just scrap outright, I think.
thats literally how this move works. only the tailend has a hitbox so if you time your approach you can get in and hit the feet leading to not only free damage but if you do enough damage even get special stagger where it gets thrown of balance.
The helicopter attack was his high risk high reward for hunters. Dodge the tail, hit the legs and he trips. Then you can hit the hump which is very weak.
Even though they're not species with an overlapping range as far as we know, I wonder if Khezu are big predators for Banbaro babies. Banbaro clearing out areas by rooting would leave little cover for ambush predators, and its height and posture would make it easier to spot approaching, camouflaged threats. Khezu, by attacking from above and living in caves, would not be deterred by Banbaro uprooting potential cover, and would likely escape detection from cave ceilings until they could drop onto the protected calves behind the adults' defensive wall (assuming herd behaviors for Banbaro, of course).
@孫慧娟 Ah yeah I guess Barioth does fit the bill, since it likes to plunge downward from the sky in its ambushes. Banbaro calves being in range of a Barioth ambush is far more likely than a Khezu attack even if their ranges overlapped too, since I don't think Banbaro would spend much time in caves.
Ah.Another good UHC vid.I kinda wonder if banbaro’s spikes kinda function like croc osteoderms,as in they’re very vascularized,also serving as mineral storage for the giant brute wyvern.
Haft to say i love these 2 and it's great to see some large monsters being herbivores which I believe we need more off in the series, I've always thought they should be quadrupled instead of bipedal but I've come to love them as is, personally I think we need a new class of monster that can be the large monster version of herbivores like a giant aptonoth, personally I really want a monster based on gastonia, a monster with a chainsaw for a tail is ripe for a great monster I do have a issue with both, for banbaro as funny of a meme as it is its absolute nonsense him being a Invader and for Duramboros I've always felt that rust Duramboros looked like he would overheat in the desert Also on the topic of herbivores you think youl cover some more of the smaller herbivores of monster hunter that you didn't cover in your aptonoth video, would love to see your take on ones like Rhenoplos, Epioth, larinoth, kestodon, gastodon as the other dinosaur like herbivores Also nice to see you using tea common shark videos in your own
You didn't mention Rust Duramboros in this video. What do you think is Rust Duramboros roll in desert ecosystems and what sort of relationship could it have the Blos wyverns being both very large herbivores?
Fun fact, Banbaro's model has a belly button, implying it gives live birth. I don't think that's mentioned anywhere in the lore, but it's a really interesting detail
Great video as always. I hope we get more Bull Wyverns in the future , perhaps one that's water type using snot and poop to fight instead of the helicopter tail or perhasps one who's Moss Covered Body attracts Bio Electric Bugs to feed on . It would be awesome to if we could even get an Elder Bull whit Hindu Theming that was still a herbivore but VERY territorial. Btw i recently got a Deviljoh figure (yes i love the edgy dragons) and i noticed that it has a regular set of straight Teeth in his mouth outside of the protrusions in its lips and i wonder if he perhaps he uses those to eat and the protrusions in the lips are more to dig like a boar(since thats one of his methods if escape as well as attack by throwing boulders at you )
This was a great episode. I didn’t know anything about that regarding pandas, or generally the connection between carnivore and herbivore digestive evolution.
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I cant wait until the plant cringe wyverns video
What do you mean
@@rylanbrewer3320 herbivores I guess
@@rylanbrewer3320 He’s making a pun. Plant *based* vs plant *cringe*
>Not Plant Cringe Dragon or Fanged Beast
meat cringe beasts*
Sometimes I just get floored by just how massive things are in Monster Hunter. A baby or at least juvenile Duramboros is already larger and certainly heavier than a human, and would likely be classified as megafauna in our world.
The first monster that comes to my head when thinking of things as such is Gammoth
It’s like seeing a cow or horse in person and realizing how big they really are, but on an even greater scale
Well a new born African elephant is 400ibs
What word would you even use to classify Monster Hunter beasts? Gigafauna? Hyperfauna?
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick gigafauna sounds just... right to me
Duramboros's helicopter tail spin isn't actually a time waster. The long spinning wind-up portion of the attack only has a hitbox on the tail club, so once you get past the club (or if you were already inside), you have a gigantic opening to attack its legs. Dealing enough damage to the legs during this causes Duramboros to trip, granting you another large opening to attack.
Not only that, but toppling Duramboros from it's helicopter spin will leave it's humps vulnerable, once broken it becomes an incredibly juicy hitzone for all damage classes.
Oh yeah that's the best part bringing down an incredible beast via hitting their weak spot
Plus you can halt the whole process in an instant with a flash bomb
If Duramboros was to get the World treatment, I think something that could work with it is the idea of endemic life sticking to and growing on the body, in a sort of symbiotic relationship, considering how plant life already grows on its body, it would make sense for smaller animals to grow on their as well, maintaining its body like how the oxpecker is with African Rhinos.
This would be nice - especially if Duram didn't like you stealing his endemic life...
Plus if you could only find some species in clearings he makes.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel I think an interesting idea would be that maybe,you could also use the endemic life scattered via markings,tracks,etcto track the monster throughout the
map.
Generations will rise and fall atop the back of this weird moose.
@@dr.masiaka7048 duramboros with zinogre bugs
I feel like that wouldn't work cause duramboros is a very aggressive via being a spinny angry boss. His back is more rock like, meaning you can mine while he's down much like zinogre you can catch bugs on his bag if you have a net. Plus the endemic life on duramboros whilst he's fighting would eventually die and eggs left by birds would just get crushed
I personally think that the Hoarfrost Reach was a lowland coniferous forest that surrounded the volcano. Mostly because of Viper Tobi which, despite generally being a hated subspecies, I think has one of the greatest mysteries to it by its mere existence, considering how much it stands out next to the rest of the Hoarfrost cast. It would show how this change from volcanic lowland forest to boreal would have affected some monsters. Banbaro afaik is an 'invader' because the Hoarfrost's much colder temperatures result in lower food quality and abundance, so a lot of the population is migrating out. Versus poor viper tobi who seems to basically be a species whose habitat isn't around anymore. With its poor insulation and camouflage it might very well be on the brink of extinction, with relic populations remaining largely in insulated caves and springs.
I love viper Tobi but that’s probably because I have not fought it I haven’t had the time to get very far in the game.
Viper tobi is fine (to fight). Takes some specific skills to make it less difficult, but honestly, I don't think he is a bad fight, and I quite like him. That said what you mentioned is funny to me, as if anything, regular Tobi would be MORE suited to Hoarfrost Reach than Viper Tobi. I think Viper Tobi still survives because of the caves of Hoarfrost, as they more brown and therefore would suit him more. He would have an ambush niche as the caves are traversed by certain monsters in order to get some warmth through the springs, And paralysis and toxic would help it kill without using too much energy.
People hate Viper Tobi?
@@Wizard_Lizard_ because he’s apparently one of the more annoying fights since he’s faster than normal Tobi and has both paralysis and poison.
Viper tobi was my nemesis, I love his fight
Both are great examples that herbivore doesn't mean a completely harmless and dull creature and that they're just as important and notable as the carnivores and other monsters in their ecosystems
Well hippos are herbivores but I wouldnt mess with one.
Yeah , most erbivores would win in a fair fight against most carnivores ,
That's why carnivores don't fight fair
@@davidegaruti2582 Thats not quiet true. Eating mostly Protein makes Carnivores much more robust, they much harder to harm, and can survive some insane shit.
Gorillas wouldnt stand a Chance to a Bear of equal Size.
But it is true what about 85 Hunting Atempts end in Failure for most Species.
We definitly need more interesting Herbivores.
Diablos is a good example too
The giant herbivores are always a treat considering the saturation of predators in the franchise, it's nice to see more monsters that tolerate other animals and even humans if not bothered. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for a video on Kulve Taroth since her behavior and el dorado as a whole are quite interesting, the entire area might just made for courtship and maybe they eat ores like gold and gilding the entire area is showing off how well of a female is.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this and maybe perhaps what a male might look like.
What about a video on Tigrex. I find it fascinating that it can live in both extreme cold and extreme heat, like in tundras and deserts respectively
Idk if it's just me, but more often than not I forgot that Diablos is actually a herbivore.
Another important thing to note with Kulve Taroth is it might be probable, and I believe mentioned, that not all of her species just like gold. Look at the arch-tempered Kulve Taroth with the more platinum coloration. It would be interesting to see different Kulves that collect different metals to adapt with their environment.
1:15 wow that's some SERIOUS shade you're throwing there
3:40 I understand that human biology is much less your wheelhouse than general ecology, but it's been found that not only are countries that consume much more sodium (such as countries that eat kimchi, a high sodium fermented vegetable dish, with every meal) have better health outcomes on average.
In addition to this there was a study that found that as much as 6X the FDA recommended amount of salt a day showed better results than the actual recommendation. Now, 6X is likely too much, but it goes to show that the FDA recommended salt intake is very clearly too low.
Especially because it's much easier to just evacuate extra salt through peeing than it is to retain salt to make up for a deficit.
Well shut my mouth - thanks for pointing this out!
@@unnaturalhistorychannel no problem man, the channel 'what I've learned' has some really interesting videos on human biology specifically in relation to diet.
Stuff like is meat really bad for you, the difference that protein quality makes, the biological effect of fasting... Etc.
@@imperialphoenix1229 what channel is this, sounds like it would be interesting to check out?
@@endless_ocean7987 it's called "what I've learned"
@@imperialphoenix1229 Honestly i can see that
Most Eastern country have their food much saltier than Westren Country due to either fermentation or just the way they cook food ended up resulting with more Salt than Fat and Oil
Where as the West food are much Fattier and Oil but less Salt
Considering that the classification system in the Monster Hunter world is more based on physical characteristics rather than genetics, it may be possible that Brute Wyverns like Duramboros and Banbaro evolved from, or at the very least shared a similar ancestry as, Herbivores, specifically ones like Apceros and Aptonoth, to a lesser extent Larinoth, and quite possibly Kestodon. They do share similar features. An herbivorous diet, large clubbed tail, considerably large size, and an armored head and back; Kestodon is also bipedal. The main difference being the Brutes adapting to foraging and browsing on shrubs and trees while the Herbivores (save for Larinoth who feed from the treetops) stayed grazers and low-browsers on all fours (save for Kestodon). Also, if the Duramboros stomach diagram is still accurate, then this would imply that Duramboros (and possibly Banbaro) came from an herbivorous line rather than a carnivorous one like most other Brute Wyverns.
Yeah, MH classifications aren't the most sophisticated out there. They call a dragon anything that can level a town regardless of ancestry
@@marcoasturias8520 Yeah, a classification I despise is Pukei-pukei being considered a Bird Wyvern because of how much it ganked-up what makes a bird. Which I know there are some pretty strange Bird Wyverns, ones that don't have feathers or have long stretchy tails. But the only thing that'd make Pukei a bird is the fact it has feathers and could fly, which is something that not all Bird Wyverns do. It does not have a beak, it's head and eyes aren't even remotely bird-like, it has a long stretchy tongue, and a tail that sprays poison. Bishaten has a beak, feathers, and can fly, so by that reasoning it's more of a bird than Pukei is. It's like that Greek philosopher dude that said a featherless biped is a man, to which some smartass held up to him a featherless chicken.
@@pwojo9776 Diogenes, the ultimate smartass of Greek philosophers
"A man is a featherless biped"
*Door gets kicked down, and a raw plucked chicken is held up*
"BEHOLD, A MAN"
Lore wise, it's supposed to be phylogenetic, but I fully agree that it's nonsensical
Been saying it for years, I think there's a niche in the world for these classifications and several monsters have traded strategies as they conquered new habitats. Advanced Fanged wyverns with erect postures like Zinogre and Odogaron might have developed from something like the psudeo wyverns explaining their stronger arms and upturned digits.
Meanwhile Anjanath resembles a raptorial bird wyvern that got big like the family history of Tyrannosaurus.
Miztutsune and Aulmadron look like mammals that went back to the water.
The possibilities hidden in their evolutionary history is almost endless.
The only cannon bit I know is psudeo wyverns definitely came first before the flying wyverns, hence why Tigrex is said to be like a living fossil, flying wyverns that went back to the ground seem to adopt the bipedal design because of their already changed posture like the blos and gravios species.
While I don't think an open-world monster hunter game would work practically without a complete overhaul of the core gameplay loop, I can see why the potential for monsters like nercsylla, duramboros, banbaro, almudron, the magalas, and others to actually change the enviroment would be cool to see. Also, Tetsucabra and Duramboros were cheated in MH stories 2. We could have 5 rathalos, 2 of which were only available postgame via updates, but heaven forbid you wanted a decent power monstie that was not either a fire monstie or rajang.
I made this very same argument about stories 2 and you know what I was called? Ungreatful and entitled!! XD it's like okay this guy literally claimed that every varient of rsthalos and rathiam are different monsters. I'm like yes but no. Durambaros and Tetsucabra could have easily been made as monsties
@@mudshrooze zamtrios was literally the only obtainable amphibian. Why not tusk toad?
@@dracojester2971 exactly
@@mudshrooze There actually is a pretty major reason, as they actually planned to do that but then the Pandemic happened. Monsties for Duramboros, Daimyo Hermitaur, and I think a few others were found in the files for Stories 2.
It's an interesting change from just more giant carnivores, since Monster Hunter has a bit of a carnivore bias with its large monsters.
I love that Banbaro looks like a giant moose, especially since moose can be surprisingly intimidating (especially mature bull males) under certain circumstances - despite being herbivores - arguably just as much as brown bears and cougars.
Please do a video on Nargacuga next
Living in Alaska my entire 27 years I cam tell you moose are a more consistent sight than bears like every day kind of sight. They live near humans. Cities, villages, towns. Bear son the other hand you'll only find if you are camping or live in the deep wood most the time.
Moose tend to be harmless up until you get within 10 feet. Even then if you dont move close to them they'll just watch you until your far enough way
Years of adaptation has always made it so that parent moose teach their children to walk across the road instead of run.
Youd think that's bs but legit when a moose or animal runs across the road suddenly their chances of getting hit skyrocket compared to a steady walking pace
@@mudshrooze That's interesting to know
@@unicorntomboy9736 I apologize for my spelling. My cells touch pad is all kinds of wonky
@@unicorntomboy9736 just last week a newborn moose walked towards me and got within a cars length of me. I'd love to pet one but where theirs a baby theirs a momma. And low and behold the momma stood up from lying in the fire weeds. I just waved said hello and backed away peacefully
@@mudshrooze Wise choice
I love banbaro and he sits firmly on my top five monsters. Love his bulldozing shenanigans and I just wish he was higher tier. His armor was also one of my favorite designs and the hoarfrost reach theme is such a banger to fight him with. Hopefully we get more giant herbivores soon.
I loved the Viking aesthetic of Banbaro armor
Banbaro's armour is probably my most favourite fictional Viking armour design.
I love the way these videos are orchestrated. The commentary and data presented is just top notch. You deserve more subs!
Thank you! I greatly appreciate it!
I've never really seen Duramboros' spin as a time waste attack as hitting the legs during it results in a topple giving you one of the only ways of reaching the weak zone.
It's Banbaro time!
How dare you awaken that in my brain. It took me 6 months to get it out.
Banbaro!!!
Truly one of the monsters in Monster Hunter World
@@rizeshogun6663 BIRD UP!
You have successfully made me and everyone else remember every single lyric in that song
I feel like the Banbaro roaming thing could be more acceptable if it had different coats based on where its fought, with a darker, shorter coat for the warmer regions, and the usual heavy white coat for Colder areas. It'd really just be a reskin but it would really add a lot
Although it's off topic and is about another monster.
What could possibly the reason that Agnaktor and Uroktor communicate with beak clapping instead of growls, hissing and similar sounds? Could it be that the vulcanic environment would drown out such noises due to the rumbling etc in the background and the beak clapping is more distinct and thus more noticeable?
I never thought of that, that’s a good idea
Yes
If I had to hazard a guess, Agnakator and Uroktor likely have awful eyesight, and what eyesight they have isn't useful when moving through stone or magma. In turn, they likely have very good hearing or tactile sensitivity in order to locate what they need to from underground. Large, sudden, deliberate movements like their beak clacking probably transmits better through their substrate than smaller, gradual vibrations like hissing or growling. Sound moves very fast through heated rock, but the irregular structure means that tones and sounds are often distorted, so a frequency based communication system is likely more effective.
Storks clap their beaks.
Duramboros's tail spin is actually a great time to get in and do damage, the wasted time is a punishment for not getting the (admittedly easy) timing right
These two are amongst my favorite monsters in the series. I find the bulky herbivore therapod archetype really apealling for some reason
I wished duramboros was in rise because i want to see his gear in hd and also rise brute Wyvern cast is so weak like wtf not in term of how tough they are to figth because their is only 2 of them right now
I'm pretty stoked you talked about ruminant stomach microbiomes and how important they are, I think it's easy to forget how important our unseen friends can be. Though it's a bit off topic, it's also interesting that fecal transplants can be a means to treat people with a couple of types of bacterial infections instead of antibiotics. Anyways, awesome video as always.
These are some of the videos I enjoy the most, MH hervivores are just so interesting. Always shared that thought of Banbaro being too weak for its size ever since iceborne came out, it feels weird, let alone its role as an invader and even more so when it shows up on the lava filled areas. And how cool would it be if Duramboros actually got the world ecosystem treatment with a diablos-like turf war against other bulls of the same species. I need more of those so bad
The brutes wyverns are my prefered monsters, Bambaro won in my hearth tough.
Brute wyverns are definitely neat, Brachydios is my favorite
Barroth will always be my favorite Brute wyvern. Regular Barroth obviously. But I find the majority of my top 50 monsters are in the Brute category. Including
Durambaros
Banbaros
Brachydios
Raadoban
Fulgar Anjanath
Uragaan
I swear I'm starting to get an instinct for these videos. Three of fourseparate times now I've clicked on the YT homepage and a new video will have been uploaded like 10 minutes ago. Nothing makes me happier.
Great episode yet again! I personally love Duramburos, and I'd love to see the Rust subspecies have a turf war with Diablos.
Duramburos' moss and fungi coating makes me wonder if it would have any symbiotic endemic life using the wyvern as a sort of moving microbiome
He’d be like a giant moving oasis.
Yeah I think Duramboros gets too much flack. Sure it doesn't have awfully varied moveset, but it really isn't that long fight if you can trip him every time he does the spin attack. Then you have access to one of the weakest weaksposts in the game history during that time (some 5th gen monsters have weaker spots).
Leave it to UHC to not only make me appreciate two brutes that I for the longest time just thought of as " the helicopter and the snowball bulldozer" but also make me rethink the overall evolutionary resoning behind why pandas subsist off of bamboo and lead me to fall fown a rabbit hole of how dietary needs do not entirely equate to dietary preferences within an organism's lifestyle, all within a nice concise video package. Quality stuff as always man
Duramboros will always have a special place in my heart, it's easily my favorite monster in the series for a number of reasons. 3U was my first game in the series and I was only ~11 at the time so I wasn't really able to grasp the complexity of skills and elements and whatnot, I played hammer because it did big damage and just used whatever armor I thought looked the coolest. I definately carted a lot, but I never hit a complete wall until I got to Duramboros. I just couldn't kill it in time, either I'd throw myself at it until I ran out of supplies and died or I'd run out of time because it has *so* much damn HP. It was really frustrating, but as a hammer main I could *tell* this thing would give me a cool hammer once I killed it so I didn't want to give up. I had to change my approach and wound up really digging into the skill system which is what got me hooked on Monster Hunter as a whole. Probably wouldn't be playing still if the game never made me learn it like that.
Reused turf war animations in IB felt exceptionally weird to me with Banbaro vs beotodus, I get that their role is pretty much the same as barroth and jyura but it still felt awkward seeing beo trying to wrap around Banbaro, almost double the size of Barroth... Tho I guess the initial impact from below makes more sense thanks to its giant horn
What a banger! I've already loved duramboros, this episode with respect to duramboros just feels complete. Incredible work.
The comparison with diablos digestion was really interesting. It's true that cacti are much simpler to digest, but this made me think again about the adaptations of cacti and how they work in monster hunter. Because they're not toxic like succulent euphorbias, with or without mean spines, i ask myself who the cacti of monster hunter are actually deterring with their single layer of defense. In the dominican republic where giant sloths went extinct just some millenia ago the cacti on the ground are all equipped with stiff spines, while the pads of the tree-like consolea moniliformis don't grow any spines above a height where large herbivores would have been able to reach. So diablos... maybe he's just too tough to care? Afterall it's the endangered cyclura iguana that still climbs the spiny trunk to munch on the cactus' fruits. I seriously wonder where these cacti are coming from and staying the way they are.
With the animals in the focus, the plants might just be an afterthought and in the end, i don't mind it all too much.
Duraboros' helicopter attack is supposed to get leg staggered during the spinning, which will trip it in a way, where the humps are right in front of you. It's definitely still annoying to get around sometimes but learning to effectively trip it out of that attack is just the best way to cutting off a lot of tme from the hunt. Maybe it can feel like this gimmick happens too much though, i can agree, but i think it's still neat design.
Yeah I don't think Capcom envisioned making their environments quite so holistically. But, cacti still have spines seems to imply it's a 'only diablos is allowed to eat us' situation. Diablos may be an important seed disperser or fulfil some other role that benefits the cacti in its bulk feeding of them.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel That sounds really good actually and reminds me of another thing.
The opuntioideae cacti. that he feeds on don't only rely on seed dispersal. While that might establish new populations whereever the diablos' feces end up when it's roaming its territory, stems of opuntioideae cacti that fall to the ground will often take root in a kind of clonal reproduction process. The jumping cholla being pretty well known for this.
So the populations it feeds on may also persist either because it's a sloppy eater or maybe because it knows to leave some around. I can definitely see it being benificial to get pruned by a diablos.
6:39 Y’know, ever since I found out that baby koalas consume a derived form of their mother’s feces, I’ve never been able to look at those Koala Care changing stations in public bathrooms the same way.
How I just remembered something: Slagtoth are quadrupedal herbivore with longer back limbs that can stay for an extented period of time on its back leg to look around. Maybe they have a common ancestor with Duramboros and Banbaro?
I'm unaware whether it's been brought up before, but personally, I believe Duramboros and Banbaro to not only be relatives of each other, but Kestodon and possibly Gastodon as well. I also think both of them, like Kestodon, are, or are at least derived from Pachycephalosaurids. If you look at Slagtoth and Rhenoplos, two clearly Ceratopsian adjacent monsters, both feature external ears, just like Kestodon, Duramboros and Banbaro, so I like to think external ears are a trait that evolved within MH's surviving lineage of Marginocephalians.
On that note, I always had this thought maybe Brachydios and Barroth share some connection cause of their shared strong forearms, armored head and tails as well as the fact both attach debri onto their bodies.
Like maybe a barroth-like ancestor accidentally rubbed itself with the slime mold and found its armor to be enough to protect it from the blast but not other monsters that try attacking it.
Adding to this is some of Banbaro's concept art that basically portrayed it as a sort of Great Gastodon.
Finally a video about my boy Duramboros.
Duramboros probably has very good balance considering it doesn't trip unless being repeatedly hit during spinning or if it is exhausted. I know the reason is more about the game mechanic of hiding the super weak weakspot (the hump) but I like to think they are just that good at balancing anyway.
Huge fan of these vids, thanks my dude.
You're welcome!
It'll be interesting to see in the future your thoughts on espinas now that it's been canonized into the main series. And as always another informative watch keep up the good work!
Someday he'll be covered!
This is one of the only channels I actively Check to see if there are uploads on
Banbaro being an invader is something that I've always been nitpicky about.
Even with their adaptability, locales like the Rotten Vale and Elder Recess are poor choices for Banbaro to inhabit.
Lore/Ecology wise; while these areas may secretly have plentiful amount of nourishment for it, they're also inhabited by some of the most dangerous monsters in the New World, like Tigrex and Glavenus. While Banbaro may put up a fight, chance are that it'll lose to them or even get killed.
Gameplay wise; I feel like why Capcom put Banbaro everywhere was so its antler plow attack gives you different status affects when you fight it. Yes, it was neat, but in some cases it can get annoying. Honestly, I feel that Fulgernath did the invader schtick better.
I wish that we could see the herbivores get some love in, say, Title Updates, but the inclination towards oneupsmanship and the bigger, badder monster fight makes me afraid we won't get that unless it's a variant of some kind. Though I'd love a like "Ancient Duramboros" or something in the Citadel that's old enough that small trees and such grow on it. Anything to get more variety other than 'here's an even more fierce top-order carnivore or Elder Dragon'.
Don't get me wrong: I loved all the fights in the recent Sunbreak update, but watching these videos has made me yearn for a greater variance in monsters and behaviours.
Also hurrah for Tea Common Shark!
Gog is kind of your best bet here. It's a lithovore but those function kind of the same as herbivores in MH
I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't like how Banbaro wondered out of an environment it seemed specifically tailored to.
While we're on the subject, I didn't like how monsters first introduced into World (for example, Pukei Pukei and Anjanath) made themselves known in the Old World. Not because I don't like these monsters, but because it just removed the uniqueness of the New World. Part of what makes lemurs and Giant tortoises so fascinating is that they have evolved almost completely independently from other animals as a means of surviving on what is essentially a spec of dust that is completely different from the rest of the world. The monsters from the new world gave me that vibe, especially since one of the main themes of the game was to explore and discover new land and new animals. Seeing them outside of the New World destroyed that.
I'd love to see Banbaro and Deviljho have a turf war. The idea of a guardian of nature and destruction incarnate sounds so cool.
One thing that I wish had an explanation is why Beotodus and Barioth attempt to attack banbaro
Beotodus in particular looks like equipped to taking popo ang juvenile Banbaro rather than adults as prey.
and in truth both Beotodus and Banbaros turf war is recycled from barroth and jyuratodus so it’s likely a fight between the two is either uncommon or unlikely.
Barioth is also probably unable to hunt adult banbaro all the time as well. Occasional predation on weak or old adults is probably going to happen but a healthy adult banbaro is probably unable to be hunted by Barioth.
As ever amazing work my friend, I cannot wait to see what comes in the mer creature. Good day!
so happy i found this channel, amazing stuff to listen to when farming in MH World
Personally I’m a fan of how Duramboros uses its tail as a counterbalance and exploits its weight when attacking. Yes the animation goes on for a while, but I’ve always found it easy to get under it and knock it down. I think it’s a clever fighting style that separates Duramboros from the glut of head-focused brute wyverns like Barroth and Uragaan.
*Personally, *yes,
Ah christ that baby durambros is fucking adorable
Really great video, I love these two so it's nice to see them get a video dedicated to them. Their role in ecosystems and the suggestion that they even aid in recovering ecosystems from elder dragon tomfoolery is another great point for them. Would love to see Duramboros return as well, and hopefully it gets a turf war where it can really put that heft to work much like what Diablos has gotten. Also if passive until provoked behaviors are brought back I definitely think Duramboros would fit that bill, unless the males that are fought are full of testosterone as what's been suggested for Mizutsune.
Not much to add, though a small point on Duramboros' helicopter spin is that I think it's a great move that would fit well with the flow of modern fights. If you roll under its tail to its legs, you can topple it with enough damage, so the move is a high risk-high reward type of attack since you get a pretty long knock down to get at it's humps for damage.
giant, strong herbivores and wild little carnivores are easily my favorite types of critter (probably why Black Diablos and Odogaron are my favorites..) and the only thing i like more is listening to their ecology and watching their behavior be supported by traits real animals in our world. i swear, these kinds of videos are like my ketamine lol.
big thank you to, well. you! the videos on the blos wyverns and odogaron has helped me exponentially in working in how they would behave as a riders monstie. i won’t get into it here because the comment would be too long to post lol. (yes i have seen the debates about riders in the several comment sections across certain monster hunter videos, and i’d like to add that it was a plot point in the first game that you don’t actually need the kinship stone to be a rider and it seems to be more of a cultural identifier, as frostfang told you to fuck off when he was protecting avinia in the wintertide tunnel before he recognized you as a rider, so no riders do not control the monsters using magical powers) but thank you. it’s given me a ton of useful insight!
While I do have problems with Banbaro being in a wide variety of environments for no reason, but it rolling up a ball of fiery rock in the horns is rad
Hey man, thank you for the videos
I study biology, but I couldn't get any biology centered stuff this semester, so this videos are great to keep learning and stay focused while going through the rest
Surprised to see Rust Duramboros wasn't mentioned, with its hump being larger likely as storing reserves is a lot more important in the desert habitat it lives in, yet the tail being shaped like an axe apparently for swiping sand (according to 3U description at least)?
That said nice video, I really love both monsters and it pisses me off Duramboros isn't a monstie in the Stories saga. Banbaro, let's say I was not expecting it to pull out trees in the middle of the arena.
Thank u so much man. Since i have money problems i can't go to uni atm but ur vids make me feel like i'm back there again
The game arrived! I already have 40 hours, again thank you so much for introducing me into this series. Your content is always amazing.
Loved the discussion of the gradient of fear and nutrient cycling. That was something I've never heard about before, so I learned something today :).
Totally agree that Banbaro is a great design but makes no sense as an invader. He's neither threatening nor aggressive so it's not like getting invaded by Jho or his ilk. It's just like oh, hey man, how's it going. I'd love to see Duram again; his fight isn't that hard for his threat tier but he absolutely oozes personality.
Another wonderful video as always! I am a little sad you didn't mention Rust Duramboros, though; I have to wonder how exactly its ecology had to change to adapt to a desert habitat, especially with the 'blos duo to compete with.
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If the Duramboross does comeback, I would really want him to be super apathetic to the hunter pre-fight, like what the Espia (forgot how to spell it) is supposed to be in frontier lore. Humans are too small for them/not there preferred prey and don't see us a threats and it is not a obligate carnivore, so the fact we run around so much makes us just not worth the hassle. It would even go so far as to it being a genuine boon to find one on a hunt, cause you might be small and "helpless" but the 12 ft tall carnivore stomping it is an actual threat that Boros will attack. Maybe even let us climb on its back to carve a piece to two before it gets angry.
I personally love that banbaro shows up on all the maps just because I like to think he is just very lost. Also if I’m not mistaken he acts as if he is on the verge of a heat stroke in the hotter areas of the elders recess to really drive home the fact that he shouldn’t be there.
Man you deserve way more subscribers I love your videos I learn more about animals from your monster hunter videos that I do in biology class
I was talking in a call with my friend about how I recently got into monster hunter and what really drew me in was the dedication they have to creating not just things to hunt and fight, but creatures that could feasibly exist in the world's fictional ecosystem.
Like my favorite wyvern, the Pukei-Pukei, likely creates it's poison from the plant matter it eats like the fruits it eats during fights or blue mushrooms it's seen consuming in it's intro for mh rise. (And we know the mushrooms relate to poison as it is used in the crafting of antidote)
And the day after that call your videos appeared on my home page. I've completely fallen into this rabbit hole
Banboro just doesn't give a single fuck. It just goes wherever it pleases.
I've started binging your monster hunter videos and i find them absolutely fascinating. Before going into art i wanted to be a biologist so this is really fun for me to see speculative ecology on all these monsters!! I love the thought and detail you put into this man! Out of curious,ity would you ever do a video on Ludroth? I know it sound strange but i find it fascinating because it kind of acts like/functions like an elephant seal while shaped like a big sea lizard/crocodile. And how do their spongy neck scales even function?
Glad that Tea common shark helped with your video
Thank you for briefly defending pandas and koalas there lmao. Its always baffles me how people who know such little about animals and their lives feel like they can make statements about an animal's intelligence or ability to thrive. Banbaro is one of my favorite designs so it was great to see you cover it!
Yeah, the average layperson just doesn’t understand the mighty panda’s sick vegetarian gains.
same
Great video kinda wish garangolm was in the video because he completes the trio of oversize monsters that just want chill and eat plants
Great video as always! I personally don't see Duramboros' spinning move as a time waste at all. If you're quick about it, you can use it to make it fall over, and if you don't, it makes for a massive spinning death trap you definitely want to get away from. If you want to call it a "time waste", then Alatreon's Escaton Judgement and Fatalis' map-covering flamethrower would be the exact same.
On a different note, I'd have *loved* to hear at least some short thoughts on Rust Duramboros. It has always seemed really weird to me that it even exists, so hearing about it from a more educated person would've been cool
Great video again, I do wish Banbaro was given more respect in game, the thing is massive. Its turf war with Beotodus especially looks goofy
I think it's mentioned somewhere that Duramboros hibernate (According to BannedLagi anyway), which is likely another reason for the massive humps on its back, feeding it throughout the winter months and this might be when the plant and fungus grow on its back. This ties back into your point about seasons, the Misty Peaks might look very different during the winter than it does in game. Plus it burrows underground during this time, but it might only do so partially, explaining why its nostrils are high on the head (As discussed on Discord).
Rust Duramboros also seems like it would be an interesting case to discuss, possibly using the fat in its humps more for water storage than food, and as potential heat shields like camels. It would also be interesting to know whether it competes with the blos wyverns. Since Duramboros eats wood etc. I imagine Monoblos and Rust may compete with one another.
Looking forward to the next video, I haven't seen Primeval in like 8 years so it should be a fun one
I hope Banbaro returns in a future game
Basically equivalents of buffalos and bisons respectively.
One thing I could imagine is them being protection for smaller herbivores and animals. Since the hoarfrost is such a dangerous area a group of popo or anteka could spend time around banbaro for protection or slagtoth spending time around Durambaros herds.
Although normal Durambaros might not be as aggressive, Rust Durambaros is outwardly stated to kill other smaller herbivores to reduce competition for limited plant life
Banbaro on the other hand I do think wouldn’t mind an Anteka herd following them and probably would provide protection
@@TsulaAngenati2292 which makes sense since he lives in an environment where there is much less food so having other competition could mean death since they would steal food from him.
@@namealreadytaken7116 Exactly. I don’t know if normal Durambaros is that aggressive though since it lives in more fertile and bountiful regions- it would fight large herbivore for them like other Durambaros bulls, but I don’t know if smaller herbivores would be treated with the same aggression
@@TsulaAngenati2292 I feel that the small herbivores probably around slagtoth and aptonoth would be fine but anything exceeding that would be met with a warning.and now that I think about it what other herbivores that are large monsters live in flooded forest and misty peaks.
@@namealreadytaken7116 that’s fair and that’s a good question
I do hope to see Duramboros again. I just find it so charming.
I think he'll be back at somepoint!
I love my buffalo and moose Brute wyverns. Banbaro was my favorite monsters introduced in iceborne I've got a special place in my heart for moose. 27 years of living in Alaska seeing them near daily. :)
They're wonderful animals and my favourite cervid!
19:04 about Banbaro as the invader. One thing I noticed about Banbaro armor is that for some reason has a mushroomancer skill, something that don’t usually associate itself with Banbaro. I think that Banbaro don’t eat just plant, but also fungi. The reason why I bring this up is that in Elder Recess, there just so happens to be a chillshrooms that the hunter can used to fight off the heat. The effect of the chillshrooms may affect not just the hunters, but also the monsters. Still find it baffling that Banbaro is an invader, but it could explain why the moose monster can be found in Elder Recess. Correct me if I’m wrong.
YO , was that my boy Tea? Hell yeah, his animations are amazing. As for the monsters themselves, I think Duramboros throwing himself like a hammer is so fucking dumb. I hate it so much. As for Banbaro, he's not a bad fight, he just shouldn't be an invader. Put him in just the Hoarfrost and maybe the Ancient Forest and he'd be an almost perfect early game monster.
My thoughts exactly!
If we’re keeping Banbaro going outside of the Hoarfrost I would personally want to make banbaro shed a good amount or at least thin out its coat and grow brown, black, or tan fur when outside the Hoarfrost.
Since I feel like it being a massive, white, fluffy animal moving around in the middle of a desert probably makes people question why this thing is even an invader.
The coat change will at least do something to make it look like it is actually built to be one by making it not stand out like a sore thumb when it appears right next to say diablos in the wastes or uragaan in the recess.
Banbaro’s one of my favourites design and inspiration-wise. Have yet to fight it myself though. Hopefully they flesh out the herbivore side some more in the near future!
Ay it's very interesting to see clips from Tea Common Shark used as a 'proof of concept' for Duramboros, it really helps drive the points home, always enjoy listening to these videos
I've got an interesting suggestion for you to look at. You should take a look at the unique animals and ecology of Dark Sun, an old D&D setting as well the setting for the Prism Pentad book series ((all of which are available on RUclips as audiobooks for free.)) and a few other books as well. The jist of the setting is that an ancient war has turned the world in a desert wasteland, a very fantasy Mad Max thing going on.
Pretty much all the plants and animal are either entirely unique or unique modified versions of existing animals different to our own world. Back a while ago you said you wanted to see a fantasy setting where animals had evolved to use magic like humans and thats the case in Dark Sun. All animals have evolved to use Psionics ((one of three magic systems seen in the setting)) to some degree. In the beginng of the Third Prism Pentad book a character is trying to Psionics to posses the mind of a Kank ((a sort of giant domestic beetle used a beast of burden)) in order to spy on the main character. However the Kank ends up overpowering the character's will with its own psionic defenses and posses his mind instead. He then proceeds to have his body run around on all fours scratching at the walls as he is locked into a fierce mental battle with the creature to regain control over his own body.
Its a very unique and i'd love to see the setting get some love in the modern day.
I think the helicopter move is fine to stay. If you time and space correctly, which isn't hard to do, you can exploit this massive opening it gives you as it whirls.
What it needs is less openings after every other move. I get that it's massive but the older games showcase it to have a surprising level of agility, using that huge hammer tail as a counterweight to and even launch itself with it.
I’m so excited for this video!
To be honest I love the fact that herbivores can still treated as dangerous monster in MH universe, like Duramboros and Diablos. Because they ain't gonna kill you because they want to eat you, and even if that's not the case, they will kill you just because they want to hurt you, painfully.
I can't wait for the video on Nargacuga or Tigrex. Both rare variations of them are in my top 5
I think you could make duramburos helicopter spin as a punishment for not keeping up an offensive against it, like if it had to do some kind of preventable preparation similar to the AoE afflicted monsters in Sunbreak do. Or maybe make it something you can turn against the creature by goading them into spinning into a wall for a small knockdown. It's definitely too iconic of an attack to just scrap outright, I think.
thats literally how this move works. only the tailend has a hitbox so if you time your approach you can get in and hit the feet leading to not only free damage but if you do enough damage even get special stagger where it gets thrown of balance.
The helicopter attack was his high risk high reward for hunters. Dodge the tail, hit the legs and he trips. Then you can hit the hump which is very weak.
Uploaded this video right on my birthday. Couldn't be better timing!
Happy birthday!
@@unnaturalhistorychannel thank you!
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Duramboros's weapons look awesome and I do enjoy his fight and a world like version would be vary interesting
I never miss a vid. Thanks for the analysis!
Even though they're not species with an overlapping range as far as we know, I wonder if Khezu are big predators for Banbaro babies. Banbaro clearing out areas by rooting would leave little cover for ambush predators, and its height and posture would make it easier to spot approaching, camouflaged threats. Khezu, by attacking from above and living in caves, would not be deterred by Banbaro uprooting potential cover, and would likely escape detection from cave ceilings until they could drop onto the protected calves behind the adults' defensive wall (assuming herd behaviors for Banbaro, of course).
That title would likely go to Barioth (new world)
@孫慧娟 Ah yeah I guess Barioth does fit the bill, since it likes to plunge downward from the sky in its ambushes. Banbaro calves being in range of a Barioth ambush is far more likely than a Khezu attack even if their ranges overlapped too, since I don't think Banbaro would spend much time in caves.
I never knew I wanted a video from you so much until now!
(But a look into astalos and its weird insect adaptations could be mighty interesting too-)
I remember when I hated pandas. Pretty much just my Zoology version of an edgy phase.
Many of us had one...
@@unnaturalhistorychannel It's Not A Phase Mom! They are evolutionary failers!
Mom: They're doing better than you in school.
Mama jokes, roasts, what aspect of comedy are mothers never good at?
Thanks for doing these videos, super fun to watch
Ah.Another good UHC vid.I kinda wonder if banbaro’s spikes kinda function like croc osteoderms,as in they’re very vascularized,also serving as mineral storage for the giant brute wyvern.
Haft to say i love these 2 and it's great to see some large monsters being herbivores which I believe we need more off in the series, I've always thought they should be quadrupled instead of bipedal but I've come to love them as is, personally I think we need a new class of monster that can be the large monster version of herbivores like a giant aptonoth, personally I really want a monster based on gastonia, a monster with a chainsaw for a tail is ripe for a great monster
I do have a issue with both, for banbaro as funny of a meme as it is its absolute nonsense him being a Invader and for Duramboros I've always felt that rust Duramboros looked like he would overheat in the desert
Also on the topic of herbivores you think youl cover some more of the smaller herbivores of monster hunter that you didn't cover in your aptonoth video, would love to see your take on ones like Rhenoplos, Epioth, larinoth, kestodon, gastodon as the other dinosaur like herbivores
Also nice to see you using tea common shark videos in your own
You didn't mention Rust Duramboros in this video.
What do you think is Rust Duramboros roll in desert ecosystems and what sort of relationship could it have the Blos wyverns being both very large herbivores?
Personally I think Kestodon and Gastodon are dwarf relatives of the plant-eating brute wyverns.
I won’t lie, I’ve just been binging this series lmao. I don’t know what about it but it’s nice to watch
Its always nice watching these video, thanks!
These are two of my top 50 monsters. And honestly they both make it into my top 20. I love how they are Brute wyverns but still mammals
Thanks for doing my recommendation my bro. I really appreciate it. I am indeed quite fond of these plant eating titans.
Fun fact, Banbaro's model has a belly button, implying it gives live birth. I don't think that's mentioned anywhere in the lore, but it's a really interesting detail
Great video as always. I hope we get more Bull Wyverns in the future , perhaps one that's water type using snot and poop to fight instead of the helicopter tail or perhasps one who's Moss Covered Body attracts Bio Electric Bugs to feed on . It would be awesome to if we could even get an Elder Bull whit Hindu Theming that was still a herbivore but VERY territorial.
Btw i recently got a Deviljoh figure (yes i love the edgy dragons) and i noticed that it has a regular set of straight Teeth in his mouth outside of the protrusions in its lips and i wonder if he perhaps he uses those to eat and the protrusions in the lips are more to dig like a boar(since thats one of his methods if escape as well as attack by throwing boulders at you )
This video made me remember how much I loved Duramboros.
This was a great episode. I didn’t know anything about that regarding pandas, or generally the connection between carnivore and herbivore digestive evolution.
There is No Way the Hoarfrost Reach is Colder than the Frozen Seaway, I Wish these Devs Would Stay just a Little Bit Consistent lol