Brute Wyvern Ecology : Anjanath in Monster Hunter
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Perhaps the most feared wall of early MH is covered in this video as we explore the behaviour and ecology stemming from anjanath's impressive ornaments and famed ferocity.
0:00 How Anjanath keeps cool
7:57 Anjanath's sense of smell and relationships with other monsters
17:41 Combat between Anjanath and the use of elements + tusks
21:50 Thoughts on Anjanath
26:25 Closing comments and debrief 
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"When not fighting everyone else, Anjanath probably takes time out of its busy schedule to fight each other as well."
That sums Anjanath up Perfectly
The idea of Fulgur being the ''base'' form is interesting, especially since the Guild simply found Anjanath first. This reminds me of Khezu and Red Khezu, with Red being the base but Khezu being more common so it's more popularly known, making Red the quote on quote ''subspecies''
I feel it may be true with quite a few other species as well, but more on that in future videos.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel Looking forward to it ;)
@@unnaturalhistorychannel But I always thought feathers and fur are very different thermoregulators. So yeah having less fur makes sense, but with feathers what maters is how they interlock. So something like the big fluffy feathers of lets say an ostrich can help with circulating air around their body exhaustiing it better, than lets say the this oily but short feathering of a penguin.
It’s pretty true to life to include mistakes in ecological categorization, even if it wasn’t intentional by the game developers. Plenty of silly errors have slipped into scientific publications. 😂
Also FYI it’s “quote unquote” rather than “quote on quote.” Just for future reference. 😊👍
@@ZenBearV13 and no need to say "quote unquote" if you can literally type the quotation marks out
Despite the tyrannosaruine inspiration in his design, I've always seen Anjanath as having more of the ecological niche of a mid sized carcharadontosaur or allosaur. A mid tier predator that can bounce between upper and lower roles more then other predators in its ecosystem.
You could also look at it as a smaller Tyrannosaurid species.
I think it is an Dyrptosaur type tyrannosaur
That role isn't exclusive to allosauroids. It also applied to tyrannosaurs and abelisaurs
He looks like a vulture to me
Definitely came here to say this. The headgear on Anjie always reminded me of an Allosaurus.
fun little headcannon: anjanath is possibly the missing link between bird wyverns like great jaggi and brute wyverns like deviljho
sharing so many features of both brute wyverns and the small bird wyverns id love to see if this holds up to actual scrutiny
It's funny because I had that exact theory too. I speculated that as the world got cooler the fanged wyverns declined in diversity in the old world and the fanged beasts were on the rise there was still a vacant neich for large top order wyvern carnivore. So some of the earliest of dog wyverns like Great Macao became larger and more powerful. Like your comment a lot😊
In that case, what about Banbaro?
@@bigmoe9856 he just seems like a arctic duramboros
@@CreamIc7 I think they might be actually related to each other in terms of being cousin species.
@@TornaitSuperBird same
I’m happy to say that I share your opinion of Anjanath’s design. I absolutely love how he starts off as a relatively plain tyrannosaur, before busting out the sails and fire breath during rage mode. His design is a perfect blend of reality and fantasy.
Would it be accurate to assume that Anjanath’s metabolism plays a big part in how it interacts with (terrorizes) other monsters? It’s likely to be an endotherm considering its integument, size, and active lifestyle, so its belligerence is necessary to procure and defend large amounts of resources for its consumption.
Yeah anjanath probably burns through a good amount of food in its territorial patrols, and probably isn't a fan of anyone else eating his aptonoth. And I'm always happy to see anjanath support!
8:45 actually he does! One of its non battle animations it’s him standing on his “pounders” and using his horn to put some of his slime on the ground.
I think the technical term for it is "nose bone."
Edit: only now do I realize he was talking about Brachy.
@BANANA_stev the things he has on his arms
I also love how it explodes in his face and he sort of goes "oh. That was unexpected" and then goes about his day.
On the topic of rise, I think the reason of lack of ecology is probably because rise was made at the same time as world, and so some features from world were added in probably the last year.
Yeah, it's just not really the focus of Rise either. Instead of a living, breathing world, their intent was to create a short-lived but fun experience with a ton of QOL. That being said, I hope to god some of the Rise monsters return in MH6 because I want so badly to see how Rakna and Almudron interact with other creatures in a World-like setting, or hopefully an even more immersive entry.
@@prawn1717 Yeah, Rise is much more focused on the action aspect. A real pick-up-and-play version of Monster Hunter, compared to the more realistic ecosystems of World.
@@prawn1717 I like rise more, and i hope that they dont outright remove the cool stuff rise brought to the franchise, but i do want all the monsters to actually feel like animals instead of just monsters in gen6
I can't wait for the dlc
Yeah wasn't anjanath literally one of the commissions favourite study topics of the new world because its biology was unique to it?
Anjanath is one of the biggest reasons why World is my favorite Monster Hunter game. And personally, I think he deserves to be co-flagship alongside Nergigante.
I found your channel a few days ago,but your content is really interesting to me. Applying Rules of the real world to explain fictional creatures is just so fascinating to me.
Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying!
The Monster Hunter series makes that easy. It's centered around fantasy tempered by reality, where you can learn a lot about the monsters by looking at their real life inspirations.
I've playin mhw, and anja is def one of my favorite designs. Love the tyrannosaur energy
edit: the bazelgeuse tease with it just overtaking the audio was a genius bit lol
edit edit: wtf is my grammar in the original comment? I have no idea what I was trying to type and I'm not even going to correct it
YEAH!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH THESE ARE LITERALLY MY FAVORITE BRUTE WYVERNS!!
Now that my craze is done, I feel it’s more related to the bird wyverns than brute wyverns due to the enlarged claw on their forearms, similar to some raptorial bird wyvens
I've seen some others suggest this too and I think it's an interesting theory, brutes and raptorial birds may well be closer than the games suggest.
I hope the video also lives up to the hype!
I came up with a little theory as to why Anjanath was deathly afraid of Rathalos in their turf war, despite the fact Anjanath could realistically at least fend one off with it's physical strength. It starts with when Rathalos first showed up to the forest, Adult Anjanath would more than likely fought off attacking Rathalos with no fear, but Anjanath's chicks would have had to look out now more then ever as a Rathalos could just swoop down and snatch one with out much trouble. The survivors would grow up fearing the shadow of Rathalos flying over head, and possbly passing on this to the next generation of Anjanath. With only the chicks that were weary of the skies being the only ones to survive, and pass on their genes. But this just a theory, something i thought of for awhile trying to figure out why Anjanath was the only monster to show genuine fear in it's turf war with Rathalos.
There was a prototype footage where lagi had a turf war with him, he was very terrified in the sea leviathan!
Who wouldn't be!
another sea leviathan perhaps?
I think it’s also interesting when you of how weak to water base Anjanath is
@@Miss_OnyxRoseNah bro lagi went full diablos there
One thing that I really love about Anjanath is that it just has that pure "childhood monster" design in the same way as something like Charizard. The basic idea of a fire breathing Tyrannosaur really does just feel like the first thing that a child would suggest for the game, but they took the idea, fleshed it out and made it very interesting.
Anja's a pretty cool guy, I like how until Nergi shows up, he's almost the secondary flagship of World. I also agree that his design feels about where I like in terms of fantastical realism. Brachy and Glav are amazing ofc, but they do sort of cross that line where I don't feel as though I'm fighting a monster as much as I am a boss, especially Acidic Glav and Raging Brachy. Zinogre is about where the line is drawn for me, sure, he's a ridiculously anime thunder wolf but I love the explanation of his symbiotic relationship with fulgurbugs, it made me appreciate the flared hive spines that line his body. Anja fits right in with the Raths and the Pseudowyverns where I like trailing and watching him as much as I do fighting him.
Edit: On the subject of maps in Rise (and Rise's take on ecology in general), I think my biggest problem with it is that they just half-assed the ecological aspects of the game. They brought back small monsters, cool. But then they just become nuisances and don't act as small prey would act around huge carnivores, as the infamous Bullfango attacking Magna showcases. They said that "endemic life" would be an essential part of your hunts, but no one grabs them unless they're convenient and the spiribirds honestly stick out like a sore thumb on the maps. They showed off the turf wars pre Rise's release and then those ended up being some of the only new turf wars in the game. I think they felt pressured by World's success to implement all those features, but it ended up taking development time away from what should've been the focus; the gameplay, and leading to underwhelming ecological interactions. I think the portable titles should be extremely fun bursts of hunting with tons of QOL but not much deeper substance than that, since the point of a portable game is to hold someone over for a bus ride, or at the airport. Leaving the deep environmental interactions and storytelling to the mainline games would give them the time they apparently needed to create a worthwhile endgame, and not give us the shoddy patchwork that Rise's ecology seems to be. I know I'm being harsh here, but I do love Rise, I just wish they focused a bit on the gameplay loop and difficulty rather than trailing in World's footsteps.
That was a whole lot of nothing about the maps in Rise whoops, but I actually adore the Rise maps, partly attributed to the Wirebug. I think they look beautiful, I like the layouts and the little secrets, and overall they suit the purpose of getting to your location quickly and easily. They're a great example of what I think Rise should've been, a game that trims the fat and just shoots you into the hunting aspect. We can have the whole grand steak with MH6 (underwater combat and an open world Capcom, make it happen), but for now, I think Rise and by extension, its maps, should've been the cheap fast food you crave from time to time.
It kinda reminds me of the mh generations wait to mhw
I think Rise was in something of a rock and hard place scenario. It effectively had to include some of the features of World or people wouldn't have been happy, but the lack of focus on them made them feel half-assed.
I do think there will be a growing divide between Portable and Main series, but it's questionable how much the portable series can trim without it feeling a bit weightless.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel Atleast all the fights in rise don't have cancerous elements like lunastra, azure rathalos, and kushala from world.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel What do you think if a wire bug like system came back in mh6 but it only works when attached on solid mass like a grappling hook and isn't as clunky as the clutch claw?
@@unnaturalhistorychannel Agreed, it's obvious when you look back at pre-launch hype videos that people were expecting turf wars and World's focus on endemic life.
Honestly I could see them making more Frontier-esque content for portable, where the combat gets taken to a whole new level. People really miss Frontier, so I think making a new MH MMO or MMO Lite could be fun for A: giving Frontier fans what they want and B: having something to hold over fans of the mainline series while they do whatever crazy innovations the devs can think of. Rise to me seems like it tried to cater to all parts of the MH community and ended up pleasing fewer people as a result, I would like it if they would take the portable line down its own unique road personally.
I just adore how World told you a little story basically with Anjanath. Before you fight it, its being just a massive bully to the weaker monsters. But when you fight it you have a chance to have Rathalos show up and just wreck Anjanath. That was just such a great "show don't tell" moment and Anji became one of my favs for that reason.
I can't believe it took me this long to make the connection but the new world's Rath's roar is probably less focused on intimidation and more on socialisation due to the more social life styles Rathian and Rathalos are able to live in the comparatively lax new world in contrast to the old world's more hostile and competitive environment.
I’m SO glad to see another distinguished Anjanath enjoyer. While I like the classic brutes such as Glavenus, Jho, and Brachydios, I always felt like their designs were very cartoonish. Cool, but a little out there. Anjanath on the other hand is so wonderfully grounded and his belligerent school-hard bully motif is just so charming as well.
Also, personal theory, but I always chalked up Fulgur Anjanath’s physical and combative superiority to the regular species as being a result of their differing environments. Think of a Gobi Bear compared to an Ussuri Brown Bear. Fulgur Anjanath has to regularly deal with a whole suite of competitors in a much harsher environment for the same food sources (we see this ingame with Fulgur’s turf wars against Stygian Zinogre, Tigrex, and Barioth). The regular anajanth species, by comparison, only really has to deal with Rathalos, Rathian, and maybe the occasional Tigrex should they overlap, whereas Fulgur is dealing with other large carnivores of similar ecological standing on a regular basis.
Anyways, great vid as always, very excited to see what’s next
I guess that would make sense on paper but anjanath would have to deal with more than just rathalos and rathian.
Anjanath’s territory’s overlap with nargacuga and yain garuga as well as zinogre too. and while anjanath probably doesn’t dominate these monsters he probably can give them a run for their money especially towards monsters like nargacuga who anjanath can probably defeat.
@@dapperraptor8789 Yian Garuga, based on what we see in World, is largely insectivorous and a scavenger of other predator’s kills. Zinogre and Nargacuga do most of their hunting in the forest’s interior, whereas Anjanath hunts mostly in the flood plains. It’s also worth nothing that Zinogre and Nargacuga, based on their old world counterparts, supplement a good majority of their diet with smaller prey, and are likely hunting mosswine, wing drakes, and kestodon on the forest floor, whereas Anjanath specializes in tackling big game exclusively
@@thewolfofcomedy5966
he would still probably engage with them, Anjanath is generally bilergant and still wanders the interior to mark his territory. anjanath would probably be hostile on sight to those monsters
@@dapperraptor8789 Yes but he isn’t directly competing with them for resources or territory, and so the animosity is most likely not as intense as it would be between Fulgur Anjanath and the other arctic predators
@@thewolfofcomedy5966 true, though he might be competing with nargacuga a little bit
Hey man, great work. I've just recently discovered your channel, but I've been slowly but surely going through your videos. They're truly fascinating. Hope to see this community grow a lot more.
On the topic of Bazelgeuse:
I may be late to the party since most of the video has probably already been made, but I would love to see your angle on the possibility that Bazelgeuse's nomadic lifestyle may be a result of Seething individuals.
My headcanon:
The artbook suggests that Bazelgeuse hatch in the high altitude cavern ranges of the Elder's Recess and then proceed to raid the rest of the continent. The reason for that extreme lifestyle, however, might be the presence of incredibly strong (possibly Seething) specimens overlooking their "pride".
Like the IRL lions bazel imagery usually alludes to, a dominant male might be the one forcing the younger, immature ones to leave the pride as a way to avoid competition. This might explain not only why Bazelgeuse don't seem to settle down in non-volcanic environments as well as why Seething, although seemingly more powerful in both an elemental and physical capacity, don't leave the Elder's Recess to obliterate other ecosystems like their regular counterparts do (and possibly, for that matter, why it doesn't seem to fly nearly as much as them).
Seething's reign over the higher ranges of volcanic environments in which the species usually nests should also attract challenge from other males, specially younger ones who feel confident enough to take on a much more experienced and dangerous veteran. In this case, the Bazelgeuse's "usurping" the top of the food chain in other ecosystems might be part of their pilgrimage to either build or take over a "pride" of their own once they return to the Recess as more mature individuals (maybe even after they've attained the Seething status).
Thank you! It's much appreciated.
Bazel's video is almost complete, but I came to a conclusion re: seething individuals that wasn't so dissimilar. Check back later in the week to see!
I have the theory that anjanath is one of the most basal members of the brute wyvern species, as it has many similarities with brute wyverns such as deviljho and abiorugu from the fron saga Frontier
I think something similar in it sharing a common ancestor with deviljho that was probably quite similar to anjanath.
I absolutely agree that Anjanath is peak brute wyvern design, both in its fight and normal design. Out of most of the other big brutes, It feels like the only natural ones (regarding both design and abilities) are anjanath, tigrex, and banbaro. Even more tame ones such as diablos or duramboros dig at absurdly high speeds and turn into a damn helicopter. And then you have glavenus wielding a great-sword for a tail and a absurdly aggressive pickle shooting lasers at you. A majority of the designs or abilities of the larger brute wyverns really stand out compared to most other monsters like rathalos, so anjanath feels like a great step in the right direction for brute designs of future generations. As you mentioned; a perfect balance of fantasy and natural.
So happy you covered this amazing creature! Fulgur Anjanath is my favourite monster in all of Monster Hunter so it's a joy seeing him be covered by a amazing biologist like yourself!
Thank you! Glad I delivered!
Fulgur Anja has been one of my favorite monsters since it’s introduction, for one very specific reason (other than looking awesome) and that’s it’s use of electricity. Other than elder dragons, creatures that use electricity (Tobi, Zinogre, etc) allow electricity through outer means (Tobi’s static, Zinogres bugs) but Fulgur has some evolutionary trait that allows it to handle electricity within its own body, which is just incredible in my eyes.
All I gotta say is Anja is best boi ... always comes in clutch when you need him the most
That's _the_ best "next video teaser" outro.
Anjanath is probably my favorite monster in the franchise (just in front of qurupeco ) so thanks a lot for making a video dedicated to it exclusively.
My pleasure, he's one of my favourites too.
Everytime you upload I rewatch all of your videos during class- helps me animate to hear you talk about ecology and the like!!
Thank you! And glad it helps!
Love this stuff man, seen a few vids now and I'm loving it
Your videos are fantastic. So detailed and related to our own natural world. I’ve seen your Jurassic Park/World video, your Primal video, and now currently watching this.
Subscribed.
Anjanath has always been one of my favorite monsters as he was the first monster to truly intimidate me. Having him chase me throughout the sprawling and confusing corridors of the Ancient Forest as a new hunter, who had only just hunted my first Pukei, was a truly horrifying and memorable experience. He had cemented himself as a true threat and top predator early on and that left a huge impression on me. Eventually killing him felt super satisfying and amazing, he was also the first full monster armor set I grinded out. This video in a way made me see him the same way I used to back in my early Monster Hunter days, and I'm so glad you appreciate him as much as I do! Great stuff! 👍
thank you for covering my favourite monster, and I have been waiting on the edge of my seat after the tease in the future predator video.
I think the idea that anjanath is newer compared to fulgur anjanath is a very unique and good concept. and it would explain how he can fight monsters like zinogre and tigrex. and when it comes to rathalos i think personally it's not as one sided as the turf war presents. anjanath is probably king of the lower sections and when rathalos goes down in the lower sections he might only stay there for a short while before making a break for the canopy.a rathalos caught on the forest floor may be a easy target for a anjanath. and when it comes to rathian I do think that if a rathian is caught with a kill anjanath might attempt to bully a rathian off a carcass.
when it comes to the debate about anjanath and it being a "apex", I think he should be one. the argument that anjanath loses to rathalos making it a mid tier is a weak argument, not only is rathalos a powerful monster but other apexes seem to struggle with rathalos. anjanath might just have it the worse out of the group.
and when it comes to everything else capcom seems to have a lot of love for anjanath. he was a pseudo flagship for world and before nergigante was revealed, anjanath was essentially the flagship of world. anjanath also made it into rise and stories 2 as well as being the first boss. and for the monster hunter world board game anjanath was shown in the promotional material more than nergigante. and capcom also confrimed that the ancient forest theme was his theme which I felt was deserved.
anjanath along with nergigante and tigrex are my favourite monsters. his design and fight are fantastic and I am happy that the community no longer consider him a knock off jho for the most part and as a stand alone monster. I hope that he comes back in gen 6 with newer turf wars with new and old monsters as his turf wars were always fun to watch.
thank you again for showing my boi in a amazing light this was worth the wait. and I can't wait for the video around the b52 bomber. (also I love the detail that bazel announce's his presence before you do XD)
also I hope we get a odogaron video soon!
Thank you as ever, and glad it was worth the wait! And agreed, I hope he returns in future games too.
We may well get Odogaron soon indeed...
also I hope my great jagras vs anjanath turf war footage was good
have a great day!
@@dapperraptor8789 It was, and cheers again for the link!
Crazy how often your personal opinion of monsters aligns with mine. With all your knowledge on biology and ecology, it really makes me feel correct
Always fun to rewatch this video - its such a joy to see how well articulated and informative this breakdown on Angie boy. He's definitely a fight I'Il always remember, especially since I was really keen on killing him as a HR3 newbie (still going through the story at HR6+). I really wanted to get that tier two Defender HBW early on, and that Angie fight for his scale was... equally fun and frustrating.
First time, almost got him but numerous fainting led to him running away before I could almost end him. Second time was much more successful, with his death in his little den.
Anjanath is my favorite hunt as it was the first challenge I faced in MH. I respect and despise this beast, so I have to say thank you for this. Can't wait to hear your other videos.
Really well done video on one of the best monsters in the series.
I was expecting the Ostrich to be brought up,considering its the largest terestrial bird that also hapens to inhabit some of the warmest areas in the world,and how they use their feathers,bare legs and hollow bones to cool down and allow them to keep up their high speeds. Tho I do wander since scales on birds are modified feathers perhaps Anjanaths scales do that as well.
As for the very intresting talk on Anjanath territorial battles and using Tyrannosaurs for an example we do have a specimen(I belive it was Stan could be wrong) that has a tooth injury literally inches away from the brain that had signs of healing,which is both insaine and incredible at the same time! Aplying that to points you brought up like the tusk like teeth during these confrontations might lead to some indeviduals having hides covered in colourful tapestries of scars and wounds if they have had alot of physical confrontations. Especially for young adults considering younger animals can be more confident and bold than expirienced adults.
And I do agree about your points,Anjanath is by far the best of the Brute wyverns,he was a wall,and his design while may look simplistic has those hiden bits that help him not be over designed and the way the play a part of his actual ecology and fight is great to see. Really hope he sticks around for the future games to come.
Looking forward to what may be ne-A SHOOT SOMEONE GRAB A FLASH BOMB! WHO HAS A FLA-
Cheers as ever! It'd be really cool if in future games they could make randomised texture packs for scars and wounds and such, or if nothing else for more fanart to show this.
And very cool to hear about the tyrannosaur with the very close shave too.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel How can you be this chill when a b 52 bommer just ate a man and his friend
Bahahaha okay, I watched these out of order, and today was literally the first time I stayed RIGHT right until the end. I laughed super hard at the "preview". Brilliantly done. xD
For what Anja’s turf wars show, I feel that they also potentially use their special weapons to deter worthy or dangerous foes, we just don’t see that for the same reason we don’t see glavs use their tail, diablos their horns for impaling of goring especially after the first try occurs, the fact we don’t see nergi pin cushion elders and the fact that reused turf wars and the mid and more newer turf wars are often not up to par unless we are looking at specific iceborne turf war or the new rise ones.
And for my opnion on how lacking rise is in the environments you fight in, yes I agree with you. I feel what world did was give more to do than just hunt and while I personally don’t have an issue with the apparent ease of rise yeah the way they handled the endemic life by just reducing them to use tools for the hunt instead of the animals you can fill your room with, I remember going on a gathering spree catching endemic life in world and filling out my room with some adorable and nifty critters. It kept me going through the borefest that is the golden goddess grind and Safi suffers from that especially since there should be at least something else there given the energy and how safi only really eats energy
And yeah, rise really only focuses on the weapons and even then they left some weapons hanging compared to others and they also had several issues with balancing the monsters and the hunts but they did fix kush as a fight and all that as well as adding ‘hey look at that you can take advantage of that creatures and stuff’ which is really the only environment aspect that rise improved over world but world can always add those on.
Anjanath is a fucking masterpiece of fictional ecology.
Love when you upload. There's still so much of cast left in the roster to cover, I need more well researched videos making real world comparisons and analogues to my fake dinos, dragons, and wyvers, oh my.
There is plenty more to come indeed...
This sneak peak for next episode was so funny!
I always thought of Bazel as just a puppy that heard people playing and wanted to join in
I haven't started the video yet but I'm so excited already!!!! Anjanath is one of my favourite monsties in the entire franchise, there's just an allure to him hat makes him stand out more than most momsters in my eyes, at first I wasn't impressed cause he was just a plain t-rex with fire breath but as I saw more and more monsters like brachydios or rathalos I realized how much he stood out. His nosebone and sorta wings also add to this, in my opinion the best monsters are always the ones that change a bit in design when mad, it really elevates the experience to somthing much greater.
It's funny. In my quest to sort out the evolutionary line of every monster in the mainline series one of the theories that I came up with was that normal Anjanath are actually the subspecies not the other way around and that Fulgor's moved to the Ancient Forest and adapted to the warm climate. Another great video! It really is a small world we lie in.
That theory is true for red khezu
There's so many evolutionary connections you can make for the monsters one example of course is the hipcheck lord
I love the outro! Damn Bazel always cutting in 🤣
He just can't help himself
Great video, loving this channel
beautiful video as usual, Anjanath is probably one of the most successful brute wyverns especially for the fact that he is one of the few to still show connections with
bird wyverns, indeed I would not be surprised if in the future it turns out to be a relative of the "Jaggi" family who are also defined as canid wyverns for their strong jaw (plus it cannot be denied that the anjanath as a body resembles a Jaggia but much bigger), since we are talking about brute wyvern it would be interesting to know more about you have brute wyvern "mammals" aka Bambaro, Kestodent and Gestodont that we know from official sources to be natives of the new world.
Babe, wake up, Unnatural uploaded.
It's really nice to see a video on Anjanath, he's definitely one of my favorite monsters ever for many of the reasons you stated.
I don't really like what they did in Rise by giving him the turf wars of fulgur. It makes it very confusing to understand it's place in the ecosystem, because who handles zinogre and diablos like that and then freezes in fear when Rathian and Rathalos appear? Also in my opinion it's one of the cooler things about fulgur, the fact that it could put up a good fight against monsters that would normally beat his counterpart.
Anyways, thanks for making this video! I can't wait for the Bazelgeuse one after that awesome tease-invasion.
Thank you, it's great to see the cheer for Anjanath!
Yet another fantastic video to add to the collection. Anjanath is one of my favorite monsters of the new generation and might be my favorite Brute Wyvern aswell so I'm right there with you.
There are a few really interesting things about Anjanath that stick out to me. As was brought up in the Dromes & Greats-video and has been speculated by many other commentators, the reduced arms on Brute Wyverns like Anjanath seem similar to what we see in mature males of the Raptorial Bird Wyvern species, and the feathering also seems like an indicator that Anjanath and its kin might be closer to the Jaggis, Baggis & Wroggis than the games suggest.
I also think that Anjanath's highly belligerant personality especially in regards to Great Jagras is very interesting. Anjanath seems to be a very efficient hunter of Great Jagras and Great Jagras doesn't seem to have any real defences or means to combat this. It also seems odd from an evolutionary standpoint that Great Jagras would have even been able to reach the size it does or enter the niche it has with Anjanath constantly patrolling the undergrowth of the forest and controlling Jagras' population. It's weird because the rest of the predator guild of Ancient Forest seem fairly ecologically segregated. Rathalos is a top-order carnivore that hunts big game in the clearings of the forest, Tobi-Kadachi seems to be a hunter of much smaller prey and is at least partly arboreal, Nargacuga is primarily nocturnal and prefers the heavily forested areas, Zinogre seems to be a mid-game hunter etc etc. Anjanath & Great Jagras seem to be the only predators that not only regularly live in the same areas and hunt the same prey and therefore get in eachothers way, but also the only pair where one of the two regularly feeds on the other. I mean maybe they have different daily activity patterns with Jagras being diurnal and Anjanath being crepuscular but even if that's the case it doesn't seem to help Jagras very much.
Jagras is also as far as we know endemic or near-endemic to the Ancient Forest whereas Anjanath is far more widely distributed in the New World. This odd overlap in ecologies and relative distribution of the species indicates to me that Anjanath might be a fairly recent arrival to the Ancient Forest. Perhaps the newly created woodland mosaic habitat engineered by Rathalos is what drove the ancestral Anjanath's to enter the Forest in the first place, following herds of Kestodon and Aptonoth into the clearings of the Forest where they then found yet another easily exploitable food source, Great Jagras. Like you said, with Anjanth predating them, the turnover rate for the Jagras species must be fairly high and perhaps Great Jagras will become rarer and rarer and time goes on due to overexploitation by the fairly recent invasion of Anjanath.
If our previous speculations about a recent "Monster Hunter Ice Age" and the hypothesis of Fulgur Anjanath being the less derived species is true then I feel this also makes a lot of sense. Maybe Fulgur Anjanath developed in a cold, open environment akin to our world's Mammoth Steppe as a predator of large game alongside its cousin Deviljho. But unlike Deviljho, Anjanath managed to survive the changing climate as the Ice Age ended without much issue, with certain subpopulations following the cold north to the Hoarfrost and others managing to adapt to the now warmer climate further south. If Anjanath was ancestrally an open-ground species, the Ancient Forest may have served as a natural barrier for spread and diversification before Rathalos' presence changed the vegetation to the degree that a ground-based predator as big as Anjanath had enough room to move in. And with the invasion of Anjanath, all the trouble started for poor Great Jagras. Considering the wholly unequal relationship between the species, I wouldn't be surprised if Great Jagras disappeared completely within the near future. Maybe Anjanath or a similar invasive predator even invaded the Coral Highlands aswell at some point explaining why there are no Great Shamos? Once again, I wouldn't be surprised.
Side tangent: Isn't it also interesting that Deviljho's Dragon Breath, whatever it is, seems to trigger some type of electrical activity as red lightning is visible within the breath cloud? Maybe Deviljho's Dragon Breath and Fulgur Anjanth's thunder is evidence of common ancestry? And maybe the manibular tusks in Anjanath are in some way homologous to the horrifying out-of-mouth teeth of Deviljho aswell? Deviljho might have had something similar before it started to suffer from severe inbreeding depression as was speculated about in that video?
Anjanath may be my second favorite brute wyvern but still, amazing video as always, keep up the breath taking work.
Thank you, and will do!
You should really do a video on Najarala, it’s a monster I’ve never really heard much about so it’ll be pretty neat to know more about our old world snakey boi
I think Najarala is a decent monster for sure, I'm unsure if there's enough meat in the lore to bounce off but I'll take a look.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel that’s literally what I was going to say, Capcom really didn’t give us too much info on our sneky boi, but hey, that’s why we use speculative science xD
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Thank you for doing a documentary on my less chill cousin! Your channel is priceless
Thank you, and glad you liked it!
Can't believe no-one has mentioned how amazingly relatable the ending of his video is, there is not a better way to segway into Bazel's teaser
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I think Anjanath uses its enlarged nostrils to take in great amounts of oxygen to fuel their fire breath/electricity. The organs likely require soecilized organs to generate powers that are normally only seen in more powerful wyverns like rathalos and legiacrus. The sails serve as heat exchange to cool the Anjanath or wide surface area away from the central nervous system to protect against the thunder. It likely develeoped these in order to compete with other powerful wyverns. They likely have niche partitioning as they age, with the largest Anjas taking on large herbivores, while younger individuals use fire or electricity to take down smaller wyverns. This is likely why Tobi are so aggressive to Anjanath, as they likely compete with the young anjas. Rathalos also competes with the older Anjas which makes him have a rivalry with everyone in the base ancient forest
literally unironically my favorite monster. Got one in Stories 2 and practically solo'd with just him. Such a beautiful, powerful, scary creature, and he's constantly sniffing like a big ol dog; love it
The fulgur anjanath instantly reminded me of Otachi from Pacific Rim when I saw it in this video.
I think Rise’s lack of ecological depth is probably just a result of it being a portable game developed simultaneously with World; the main games have always had more developed ecosystems in my experience, and nothing had ever done quite what World did with its environments. All things considered, it would’ve been far more surprising for Rise to have met the same bar that World set.
Honestly for me, I felt they just didn’t focus on that element, ecology wise the best that has been shown in the older series is with the flagships; Zinoger, gore and sere and that is when we see what happens when they invade other areas and they aren’t things we see. The older games were more focused on making these monsters in a way that fit what they were going for but not ecology otherwise they would have made more of an effort, but even then rise isn’t exactly the same with ecology care with the old world games especially MH1 and MH3.
And that is because rise was more focus on gameplay and what the player does instead of the ecology and what the players may not see or care to understand.
@@victory8928 Mh1 I think barely has ecology until stuff like the 2nd gen and onwards
@@marcusgo1160 monster ecology videos in the game: are we a joke to you
@@victory8928 Oh sorry, always forgot about these, thou they kinda still resemble like the rise intros
@@marcusgo1160 well rise’s one focuses on their power and dangerous they are using the theme they are going for to express that. Best example is the bloodlust incarnate where they probably just slapped jho’s intro onto azuros. The best ones ecology wise would rakna (showing us her relation with her young who we see prior to her fight and what she is in the environment ‘a queen without a crown’), pukui and Chameleos as well as a few others like diablos and magna to be honest because they best represent the monsters and how they act naturally the rest either are close to on par or decide to lean away from it. But yeah rise kinda has similar ones to MH1 in that regard.
Cool, can’t wait for the next video
I vastly prefer Fulgur to "regular" Anjanath. Such a cool design, a better fight and man is that roar epic.
Same
In a future episode, I would love to see you go over one of my favorite Pelagus monsters, the Bishaten from Monster Hunter Rise and the Kecha Wacha from Monster Hunter 4.
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My favourite monster! I'm happy to see my favourite brute get such an in depth analysis. Could some of Anjanath's heat dispelling elements have a secondary function of protecting it from its own breath attacks, or limited resistance against those of Rathalos? (That is just pure speculation from me btw)
You really hit the nail on the head with mentioning how varied monster behaviours and a properly-tiered set of turf wars add to the richness of MHW. The main reason I got so sucked into that game for hours on end was as you said in your vid - it was immensely engrossing to explore this fictional ecosystem whilst observing monsters as well as just fighting them. Heck, one of my favourite things to do was aggro monsters towards each other so I could learn all the turf wars - both for my own benefit in hunting and because they are fun to watch.
This is why in the next big MH game (haven't played Rise yet, but I gather it doesn't merit that title), I really hope they explore big wyverns predating other big wyverns in ways you discuss in your vids to flesh out the ecosystem more.
Fulgar Anjanath is #1 on my wishlist for a new detailed Creator Series model.
P.S TV Tropes references are always nice to hear.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Anja's heat dispelling mechanisms might not protect it directly from fire, but the sinuses being extendable may well help it breathe fire due to the role the mucus play.
"Anjanath is usually a wall for new players"
Flashback to me stopping my Tobi-Kadachi hunt to fight the Anjanath that just showed up, far before I had even close to enough gear
Glad to hear I'm not the only one with the view that the true failing of Rise was the world building.
World first caught my eye because of how I felt like a true part of the world, engaging and learning with a living environment that continues without me, an interloper.
Helped really sell the story, made the combat mean something more than just points and items, and gave replayability something tangible to make it worthwhile.
Another great one, Anjanath is such a well designed monster both visually and in terms of ecology, I just wish its fight wasn't so spastic, for a large tyrannosaur-like brute wyvern it sure does use a lot of kicks and quick bites. One thing I'm surprised you didn't mention was how one of Anjanath's non-combat behaviors is how it will find specific spots to rest with its sails fully extended. I always found this interesting and was showing them giving off heat or taking it in, depending on the time of day/locale/subspecies.
Reminds me of the idea that Camels are now likely thought to have started out as tundra animals in the far north during the ice age. It makes sense when you find they have adaptations that can transfer over pretty easily. You can see how that would apply to Anjanath as well.
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For my monster hunter head canon, I classified both Anjanath and Deviljho as monster hunter equivalents to tyrannosaurs. However because of Anjanath’s smaller size in comparison to Deviljho, the presence of feathers, and three fingered hands; Anjanath would be the most primitive of the two. It’s possible that when the Ancestors of both Deviljho and Anjanath split off tens of millions of years ago, the line that would’ve given rise to Deviljho gradually became larger (which caused them to drop their ancestral feathering due to their much greater size), specializing in hunting larger game, and the use of the dragon element rather than fire or electricity. But of course, both Anjanath and Fulgar Anjanath are way more successful than the “Great Devourer”. Since they seem to have no issues with habitat preferences, prey options, and no genetic issues due to inbreeding like Jho does. In the end, Anjanath (the most Basal of the two known surviving tyrannosaurs) is most likely winning the evolutionary arms race against their larger cousins.
Anjanath as my first wall experience was just glorious as a big Tyrannosaurus fan and a old monster hunter admirer er first time player I couldn’t have asked for a better first experience
So great to see you cover Anjanath. It has a pretty great ecology and the aspects of its design are fantastic, simple but effective. I feel like it must have been most newcomer’s first taste of the MH experience and one they’ll likely remember fondly later on.
Personally, I think Rise focused on a different direction/theme compared to World. The latter wanted to showcase its theme of nature and realism while the former focused more on action and gameplay. It definitely appeals to different people. With that in mind, I hope that while possibly being unable to fix the lack of ecology, I want Sunbreak to be able to improve on the action and gameplay that made Rise alot of fun.
Lastly, I love the way you teased the next monster by having it interrupt you like the annoying bastard he is.
Yup, I feel he was a great fight for everyone who played World and will hopefully hold a special place in the hearts of those who started as fivers.
And yeah, I think Sunbreak won't feature much more ecology but still may deliver a fun experience with some gothic inspiration.
And oh yes indeed...
Oy, pretty cool vid. Especially liked the discussion about apexes and turf wars(though I myself would like the Rath v Anja turf war to depend on the area).
I.e, if the area is fairly dense with foliage, they tie
On a less related note, I feel like Anjanath's nasal crest is also used for display, sorta like that proposal a while back about some ceratopsians possibly having "balloon-noses" of a sort(though this isn't supported by much evidence, it seems).
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Maybe Anjanath and Great Jagras’s story is similar to the one between Rathalos and Pukei. Anjanath might be a recent residence of the Ancient Forest that dethrone the Great Jagras as the top predator, forcing him to stay mostly in the dense jungle and hide in cave, only to came out in the open to hunt
A couple things I've seen in mhw regarding anjanath: an azure rathlos made a kill, and an anjanath came and scavenged it mere seconds after rathlos left, and later in the same session, anjanath sat down facing the ocean with its fins open. I've only seen these happen once, so I assume it's quite rare, and the first one was entirely circumstantial, but I feel they do support the related theories about anja ecology.
I actually didn't know monsters would eat from the kills made by others (except jho eating captured or killed monsters), that's quite a nice touch.
There was a dead aptonoth credited to anjanath, but I never saw it kill one while it walked up, so it might've been old
I've only seen ancient forest monsters' regular behavior. Simply exploring to take a break from the constant hunting.
Anyways. Anjanath always rests on Zone 3 on the map. Its on a cycle and will always rest there if you follow it around.
Stealing kills I've only seen twice. A rathalos came into Zone 1 slightly later than the anjanath. As the rathalos was preparing its hunt animation the anjanath got the kill first.
Never seen it scavenge from a carcass, though.
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Another possibility is that it retained integument to combat the great heat and direct UV light of the Wildspire Waste’s direct sunlight; Anjanath’s scales appear to be much less keratinized than other wyverns and it’s possible that the feathery layers provided additional protection against the sun for the dermis along its topside. In this model, the original locality would have been the Wastes, with both Fulgur and ‘regular’ Anjanaths being adaptive radiations off of a common ancestor, possibly with a more restrained integument but more dispersed over the body, which then became concentrated dorsally over time.
Anjanath is one of my favorite 'dino' type monster designs, in and out of MH. It just looks amazing.
Yeah.. i love Anjanath! Hes intimitating and has a lot of tricks and was my first wall in world.
Also heres a fun theory.
Mayby Anjnaths Ability to breath fire is a relic from the past. Hes fire ability seems to not have evolved to be extremely strong. Id argue that even a Yian Kut-kus fire abilities are better than that of anjanaths. Of course this might be just that anjanaths fire breathing ability didint really need to evolve since he allready was a big monster even in Monster Hunter Standarts and posseses a powerful looking jaw.
Also not sure if you did mention this but mayby he partly uses his Fire to Intimitate predators that are on par with him or even stronger. A Narcakuga for example hunts in simular grounds to a anjanath so they probably whould meet pretty often same for Monsters like Barroth, Almudron and even Banbaro even tho they probably dont meet often.
Id also like to add that we do see Anjanaths in a snow biome in Stories 2 allthough im not sure if it counts as Canon.
Edit: also whould be interesting to see you make a video on ambhibians at somepoint.
Froggies will be indeed featured in a future video.
Anja's fire does seem a bit basal, but the notion of it being used to intimidate is a nice one. Fits as Nargacuga doesn't like fire much.
Good as always
Anjanath is lit, i always felt that he's the counter part of rathalos, (something like a flagship for world actually) being more based of dinosaurs (even with feather as to catch up to the latest theories) as opposed to the more mythical flying wyverns
That ending was fun XD. Can't wait to see the breakdown of B52 and his more explosive subspecies in the next video. Also for Fulgar Anjanath how do you think it fits in the Hoarfrost region? Why would a predator evolve to be better suited for the cold than become a nomadic monster like Ebony Odogeron? If its electricity abilities allow it to be so successful across different areas, how could have fire breathing Anjanaths come to be if originated from fulgar? Food for thought.
How Fulgur turned thunder into fire is indeed something to ponder over, and is quite hard to explain. It's also a bit weird that Fulgur decided to leave the hoarfrost too, although it could be possible a mix of the fleet and Velkhana drove some of them out.
i love ajanath i think he was a perfect introduction to a really tough monster in world
I don't mind Rathian beating Anjanath it makes sense since she has wings.
The first Anjanath hunt in MHW will always hold a special place in my heart because of my first time playing.
I'd been hunting Anjanath for several minutes, going through multiple small skirmishes, eventually taking the fight up the huge tree in the Ancient Forest.
To my fairly noob-like horror (haven't played any mh in years, not since 3 ultimate) one of the Raths shows up (I think it was Rathian but I don't fully remember) and begins a turf war with my target.
My badly injured, much weaker than Rathian target.
And then Rathian did something I never would have expected; it picked up the Anjanath and dropped it off the massive tree, finishing what was left of its health and winning me the day.
TL;DR: my first Anjanath hunt ended with a Rathian stealing my kill and it was glorious!
lmao bazelgeuse interrupting the usual youtuber schtick is the best thing i've heard all week
I've only played world outside the demo of rise and honestly he's my absolute favorite monster in the game. He's not the hardest but I just love his desinge abilities and just how he behaves.
Also I was thinking maybe the flame is also be a display for mating. The one with the best flame is another good sign of a strong mate.
one theory that I have about the feathers on anjanath is that it falls victim to the height hierarchy of the ancient forest. It's top dog on the ground obviously, but like in its first hunt, it gets whooped by rathalos. It can afford being slightly more visible on the ground with its pink skin, but the feathers help hide it from above.
If you follow around anji in mhw world (being undetected of course) he will eventually go sit on a beach side ledge in the shade of trees, letting his sails out and enjoying the view of the ocean. Its my fav relax spot now :)
I always figured it’s extendable nose flaring was to help it pull in extra oxygen for it’s Flamethrower ability, since they pop up when it starts trying to cook the player mid-fight.
ah the anjanath one of my favorite brute wyvern a formidable predator and my monster of the ancient forest
Anjanath armor is one of the best looking in world in my opinion, really mixes aspects of real armor and monster designs perfectly. Anjanath is always a fun fight and it’s definitely up their for brute wyvern battles.
Something I wonder about anjanath's feathers is that maybe he has feathers in these hot environments to help him withstand the heat. Emu's have a very fluffy coat of feathers but these feathers help keep the heat away during the day but they can also use them to keep warm at night. Maybe he came from an arctic area but then converted these feathers with heat retaining properties to feathers with heat repelling properties. Anjanath may also charge their elements if they smell an interspecific competitor before facing them so that they'll have them ready when they meet. Brute wyverns in general seem elementally less capable than other monsters so maybe its the evolutionary history of brute wyverns that causes them to need to charge their breaths while other monsters have ready access to their elements. Also great video on one of my favorite brute wyverns. I love anjanath because he just feels so believable in World.
One thing I've seen suggested for ratites is that their filament feathers may shade the animal and help absorb solar radiation, but I haven't seen this fully confirmed in any papers really. It's also unknown how much it may help anjanath due to it's massive size. And thanks!
Anjan is a more scientific-dinosaur counterpart of devijohn chance my mind.
Anjanath is basically a more environmentally friendly deviljho.
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Using the wings as heat windows might be why the pop out when enraged, periods of increased activity
I love the biological details they put into anjanoth. I saw someone else bring up the anjanath's sinus and sails for thermal regulation, and have always cited that.. to my friends' annoyance . I like the idea that the feathers add some form of insulation as well.
Anji was my main rival, I was thrilled when I saw ratholos put him in his place
Finally, you pretty much said my complaints in Rise, the turf wars. Back in World, it was a spectacle to see 2 monsters fight to see who was the superior and the way each monster fights. But now, Rise copy/paste turf wars with Rathalos and Anjanth vs other lesser monsters, Tetranodon vs the fanged beast excluding Goss Harag, Magnamalo vs the flying wyverns and elder dragons (it was great fighting Rathalos, but seeing it struggling to put down a monster like Aknosom is just ridiculous), and was hoping something grand with the elder dragon turf wars but still the same one.
I know Rise is capable of making good turf wars, like the one they gave to the yokai inspired monsters but this is the kind of turf wars I wish to see
- Chameleos vs Pukei- Pukei- Tongue superiority
- Pukei Pukei vs Bishaten- Fruit and Nut Ravager vs The Prankster who wastes them
- Great Wroggi vs Pukei- Pukei- who will strike their poison gas and who has the best physical attacks
- Kulu Ya Ku vs Basarios- Accidentally picking the wrong rock the ends up agitating the Basarios
- Khezu vs Rakna Kadaki- Demonstrating the Khezu's helplessness of fending off temnocerans and its weakness of fire
- Arzuros vs the Greats/ Aknosom - Low tier bully against the Greats but Aknosom makes effort defending itself with its graceful strikes
- Arzuros vs Zinogres- Zinogre showing its place as Apex predator
- Nargacuga vs Zinogre- Whos the quickest striker (i cant they haven't made this one yet, the size comparison anniversary video even show a potential rivalry)
-Zinogre vs Tobi- Kadachi- Zinogre flexes its electric powers while Tobi- Kadachi makes an effort of trying to dodge its attacks
- Mizutsune vs Almudron- Clean vs Dirty
- Great Baggi vs Somnacanth- who will strike their sedatives first
- Tigrex vs Diablos- whos the most angry tyrant ever (that feels more like the traditional T-rex vs Triceratops fight, wyvern edition)
- Tigrex vs Nargacuga/ Barioth- whos the best Pseudo flying wyvern
- Almudron vs Jyuratodus- Almudron showing who the superior mud king is compared Jyra's turf war with Barroth
- Basarios vs Rakna Kadaki- Basarios does a surprise underground attack below and toss her but Rakna's spiderling's help spin a silk to restrain it, belly front and takes a bite then Basarios inderno gas the silk and escapes
- Barioth vs Goss Harag- sabertooth vs murder yeti
- Royal Ludroth vs Jyuratodus- Who will claim their title as mid-tier swamp king
- Rathian vs Anjanath/ Tigrex- Incorporates ground attacks and backflips against her opponents
- Barroth vs Rathian- Rathian shoots fireballs, Barroth awares of its weakness of fire desperately charges at her or flinch her with mud and charges but Rathian counters
- Magnamalo vs Rajang- 2 monsters capable of fighting elder dragons, imagine them fighting with acrobatic and somersault skills while biting/clawing/ punching each other brutally
Valstrax ambush instead of turf wars I find cathartically funny, it's all like "screw you, Im not going for a fair fight and just divebomb you"
Your videos are great as ever, can't wait for more
I hope Sunbreaker can add new turf wars and monsters, I honestly hope they don't put subspecies ( while the bio/ecological research of how these monsters adapt to a different environment, gaining new abilities and appearances as a result, imo it takes up unnecessary space in the roster)
Awesome video
I love Anjanath, he's honestly my favorite brute wyvern despite the "generic" look. It's a really nice mix of realistic and fantasy. While unlike other people who had a chance to play world throughout the game, I first fought him in Rise and honestly loved his fight.
I saw the Rathian vs Anjanath turf war and I agree that it is just kind of stupid that it was just a recolor of Rathalos' turf war. Despite me being a fan of Rathian over Rathalos, I feel that she would probably only be airborne to deliver her poisonous tail attacks onto it but she's probably gonna have to do that to surprise the Anjanath while it's probably gonna be awhile before she can do that. But it's probably be more difficult for her to repel away the Anjanath than it would be for Rathalos despite her larger mass, like you said, it's mostly her more ground based preference that's gonna give Anjanath a better advantage. Either way, Anjanath vs Rathian would just be a draw in the end.
I think rathian should draw with anjanath but showing a clear winner in the turf war having anjanath dodging fireballs from rathian when she’s grounded and having him grab and slamming her down to ground like he always does.Only to have her escape from his grip and start flying and doing a backflip having him knocked down for a longer period of time then usual.This shows a clear winner in the turf war while also showing off how rathian would deal with monsters deciding to fight her.But another idea for a turf war could be rathian going towards anjanath and doing a backflip then having anjanath dodge the backflip,glavenous style.And have anjanath grab the tail and slam her to the ground and rathian escapes this by firing a fireball showing anjanath can get a upper hand on a rathian basically 50/50 of either of them getting a upper hand.
Anjanath comes off to me as a dilophosaur type creature. Fitting the niche of upper middling carnivore, feeding on larger herbivores, smaller carnivores and leaving scraps and things for the smaller carnivores in its surroundings, but it’s relatively nimble shape makes me think it’s also adapted for running away from larger threats. I also assumed the feathers were for display or possibly a signifier of age and dominance sort of like silver back gorillas.