I like the linework on the new Moab Speed's. Reminds me of the Airmax 95's. I agree I like Merell better bc they have vibram soles which last longer in my opinion. Contragrip is overrated from experience
Similar experiences with Contagrip. I want to like Salomon shoes but I find their soles are too slippery for UK and Ireland trekking and running. Another trekker I know made a good video about this and how many slips he had with Salomon ultras in an area of wet limestone called The Burren in Ireland. Contagrip just doesn't work well. I've found Continental, Salewa's Pomoca, Michelin on Mammut, and Vibram to be much better. Inov8's graphene grip is streets ahead for this type of terrain. Salomon has enough money to improve their soles so I wonder why they persist with these compounds which are horrible on wet rock.
@@Dusty_Hikers I agree it's an otherwise great boot. It's just that when a lot of your hiking involves wet rocks in a country where it rains throughout the year then Contagrip isn't the best option. It's fine on dry rock, ok on grass and mud (model dependent) in my experience. Nothing does that well on ice unless you have crampons or spikes, but vibram Arctic Grip is the best by a mile.
@@vhoran333 I live in Ireland and hike in the UK and Ireland mostly. I've done a bit in the alps and the pyrenees in the last few years but I'm up a mountain most weekends in Ireland, some in Scotland and Wales. If you want a Salomon shoe then the waterproof ones are all labelled GTX for "gore tex" waterproofing. However, I found Salomon's soles to lack grip when hiking in places like the Burren on wet days, of which there are many. I would buy a pair of shoes with vibram soles for that, and possibly vibram megagrip. There's a video channel called Sole Trail where he describes very similar experiences to my own hiking with Salomon's on wet rock in the west of Ireland. He described the Salomon Quest boots as treacherous in those conditions and I agree. They are superb in the dry however. I've had better wet hiking experiences with Lowa Renegades, Mammut Sapuen & Ducan GTX boots and Salewa Alp trainer mid boots. I've worn Hoka and Adidas waterproof trail runners and found them fine, if a bit wet for Irish bogs. I would pick any of these before the Salomon's for a wet hike on Ireland's West Coast. Hope that helps
Do the Moab speeds loosen up/ break in? I ordered my normal size 12 and they feel like there is zero room in the toe box (can barely wiggle my toes and my toes just feel overall crammed). I’ve worn about a half dozen different type of merrells and lately have been wearing the Moab 2 vents- and in all of the other merrells I’ve worn a size 12 has fit me great and I’ve had plenty of room in the toe box
great reviews! Comfort though is very personal thing, all feet are different shapes..
True. Comfort is very subjective.
I like the linework on the new Moab Speed's. Reminds me of the Airmax 95's. I agree I like Merell better bc they have vibram soles which last longer in my opinion. Contragrip is overrated from experience
Thank you for your researches
Similar experiences with Contagrip. I want to like Salomon shoes but I find their soles are too slippery for UK and Ireland trekking and running. Another trekker I know made a good video about this and how many slips he had with Salomon ultras in an area of wet limestone called The Burren in Ireland.
Contagrip just doesn't work well. I've found Continental, Salewa's Pomoca, Michelin on Mammut, and Vibram to be much better. Inov8's graphene grip is streets ahead for this type of terrain.
Salomon has enough money to improve their soles so I wonder why they persist with these compounds which are horrible on wet rock.
I tested the Ultra X 4 for traction instead of grip and they did well. But, I agree Contagrip is slippery on wet surfaces.
@@Dusty_Hikers I agree it's an otherwise great boot. It's just that when a lot of your hiking involves wet rocks in a country where it rains throughout the year then Contagrip isn't the best option. It's fine on dry rock, ok on grass and mud (model dependent) in my experience. Nothing does that well on ice unless you have crampons or spikes, but vibram Arctic Grip is the best by a mile.
why doesn't anyone say if they are waterproof I'm also from very wet West of Ireland
@@vhoran333 I live in Ireland and hike in the UK and Ireland mostly. I've done a bit in the alps and the pyrenees in the last few years but I'm up a mountain most weekends in Ireland, some in Scotland and Wales.
If you want a Salomon shoe then the waterproof ones are all labelled GTX for "gore tex" waterproofing. However, I found Salomon's soles to lack grip when hiking in places like the Burren on wet days, of which there are many. I would buy a pair of shoes with vibram soles for that, and possibly vibram megagrip. There's a video channel called Sole Trail where he describes very similar experiences to my own hiking with Salomon's on wet rock in the west of Ireland. He described the Salomon Quest boots as treacherous in those conditions and I agree. They are superb in the dry however.
I've had better wet hiking experiences with Lowa Renegades, Mammut Sapuen & Ducan GTX boots and Salewa Alp trainer mid boots. I've worn Hoka and Adidas waterproof trail runners and found them fine, if a bit wet for Irish bogs. I would pick any of these before the Salomon's for a wet hike on Ireland's West Coast. Hope that helps
A question: Size number is equivalent in both of them?
Yes.
I bet toe box is wider and more comfortable in merrel
True.
Does vasque mega grip last?
Do the Moab speeds loosen up/ break in? I ordered my normal size 12 and they feel like there is zero room in the toe box (can barely wiggle my toes and my toes just feel overall crammed).
I’ve worn about a half dozen different type of merrells and lately have been wearing the Moab 2 vents- and in all of the other merrells I’ve worn a size 12 has fit me great and I’ve had plenty of room in the toe box
Hey Steve, in my experience the Moab Speed did not loosen up much, but I did not have the right toe box issue that you are having.
@@Dusty_Hikers okay, thank you. I appreciate the response
Merrells have a poor construction, maybe not Moab but rest of them have a short life cycle!
What you think is better? My north face vectiv endures disintegrated
@@ShouldaWaved Salomon XA FORCES 8" GTX EN
Black, top of the line
I have Merrell boots that have last years and years.
Buy American,. Not french!!!!
Hahahahaha! Best comment ever!
American made in China