RELATIVE PRONOUNS | THAT, WHICH, WHO(M), WHOSE, WHERE, WHEN or nothing? | Explained with donuts

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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
  • Do you get confused about when to use THAT or WHICH or no relative pronoun. What about WHO or WHOM. In which situations can we use WHOSE or WHERE or WHEN? What's the difference between a restrictive relative clause and a non-restrictive relative clause? What about pronunciation. Are they pronounced differently. Yes, indeed in this lesson you will learn all about relative clauses.
    0:00 What you need to know
    1:14 What are relative clauses?
    3:13 Non-restrictive relative clauses
    6:43 Restrictive relative clauses
    7:47 Can you use WHICH in restrictive clauses?
    10:36 More rules for choosing which relative pronoun
    12:27 Pronunciation of relative clauses
    13:38 Omitting the relative pronoun
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Комментарии • 186

  • @Tony32
    @Tony32 3 года назад +11

    I'm blown away by your ability to make a complex subject easy.
    You are to English what Carl Sagan was to astronomy.

  • @pradipiramdhan6293
    @pradipiramdhan6293 3 года назад +21

    Gideon's way to deliver his English lesson is always superb

  • @7k0_
    @7k0_ 2 года назад +2

    I was unwillingly forced and supressed to observe this moving format of an image during the time of my unwillingly forced education class. Very splendid video good work my lad!

  • @brentmacdonald5569
    @brentmacdonald5569 Год назад +3

    I am in the Mid Atlantic region and trained in public education and finished university and graduate education.. “That “ almost always sounds better than “which” in restrictive clauses and I rarely us “which”. Found your RUclips website and you are amazing!

  • @Daniula02
    @Daniula02 8 месяцев назад

    The teacher from whom i'm learning so much is you my dear Gideon! I want to be like you

  • @prof.emanuelpaiva
    @prof.emanuelpaiva Год назад

    Gideon, you are the best teacher on the web. Congratulations 🎉

  • @pranavgiri11
    @pranavgiri11 3 года назад +26

    That tip "don't tell your girlfriend about other girlfriends"😂😂😂

  • @emiliakoufou5920
    @emiliakoufou5920 3 года назад +10

    This channel , which I am subscribed to,is amazing! 🥯🥯😊

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +4

      Your comment, which I'm reading from my armchair, makes me happy.

  • @bindu9185
    @bindu9185 2 года назад +3

    you're my hero! I was debating yesterday the mandatory use of that/which in relative clause with a student and I happen to agree with your perspective completely.

  • @MrAlexsegal
    @MrAlexsegal 2 года назад +5

    I think that sometimes “which” sounds better than “that” in restrictive clauses. Consider the following:
    “We have in fact two kinds of morality, side by side: one which we preach but do not practise, and another which we practise but seldom preach.”
    This sentence is quite intricate - so it makes sense to savour it and thus to say it slowly. As it takes more time and effort to say “which” than to say “that”, I think that Bertrand Russell made a good stylistic choice when he penned this sentence.

  • @germanmorganti9686
    @germanmorganti9686 3 года назад +8

    Excellent lesson, Gideon! You deserve a dozen doughnuts!! Thank you!

    • @mariacebrecos303
      @mariacebrecos303 3 года назад +2

      Rather a dozen matcha latte. For his sake. I like Gideon, I appreciate him.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +4

      Doughnuts only on special occasions

  • @maya.7057
    @maya.7057 3 года назад +1

    Thank you very much! That's a tricky topic. You have made it clear!

  • @pussycatlover6522
    @pussycatlover6522 3 года назад +6

    Another impeccable lesson from the grammarian, the man who knows his doughnuts ! Thanks again for the time and effort that you put in. We much obliged to you. it's been a long time since we last saw you. I believe Blighty has lifted lockdown restrictions, so why don't you go there for a bit of life normality, such as fish and chips or just a pint and a fight? 😉 Far gesund for now Gideon ! 👋 stay mellow !

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +2

      Glad you liked the lesson. I cannot visit blighty just yet. Maybe in the summer.

  • @12701270able
    @12701270able 3 года назад +2

    Yet another flawless video/lesson
    Short and sweet
    Thanks

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      Thanks. It was rather long and sweet but glad you liked it.

  • @kostakosta5352
    @kostakosta5352 Год назад

    Hi. Many thanks! Yes, totally agree. Using “that” in restrictive relative clauses ( defining relatives clauses ) is much better.

  • @marcusalves3646
    @marcusalves3646 3 года назад

    Thank you very much for all these intelligent, funny and useful useful videos!

  • @luiscarlitosrecinos8598
    @luiscarlitosrecinos8598 2 года назад

    My respects to you very well explained and simple... The best video I have seen!!

  • @Leonardo.Britto
    @Leonardo.Britto 3 года назад +8

    As a Portuguese language teacher, I noticed this subject easier and interesting, because its quite similar to the Portuguese language syntax.

  • @monidefi2680
    @monidefi2680 2 года назад

    You are such a great teacher. I've realised that I use all of these relative pronouns correctly, but I didn't know the rules.

  • @devika_25
    @devika_25 3 года назад

    Can we appreciate that it is free !

  • @mariacebrecos303
    @mariacebrecos303 3 года назад

    Another superb lesson on basic grammar that we all need so badly. Have a blast, stay safe and cheers, Gideon!

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      I'm glad you liked it. Reading the comments is a blast. Best wishes.

  • @Selene-u3X
    @Selene-u3X 3 года назад +9

    I m grateful dear Gideon for your accurate explanation, you re unique 😍.. a fourth thing.. we should never miss Let'Them Talk videos to learn english and completely enjoy. Wishing you all the best👍💯❤️

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +2

      The 4th rule is the most important of all. Many thanks

  • @evelynakoublova5610
    @evelynakoublova5610 2 года назад

    Dear Gedeon, thank you so much. I have to watch it again. It was too complicated for me this time.

  • @ilamtung1977
    @ilamtung1977 2 года назад +1

    Hi, you are a great teacher; thanks so much

  • @sylviazizzi8070
    @sylviazizzi8070 2 года назад

    I love your videos. WOW. You are an awesome English teacher.

  • @paulfaulkner6299
    @paulfaulkner6299 Год назад

    My own personal style is to always use _which_ in preference to _that_ if possible. I also tend to use _whom_ more than my pears on analysis too. Thank you for crystalising the topic for us.

  • @aporsebestyen4509
    @aporsebestyen4509 2 года назад

    I will be dreaming with doughnuts for a while, but I don't mind. Thanks for the great lesson!

  • @linhadabeleza
    @linhadabeleza 3 года назад

    Very, very well explained! Brilliant!

  • @alphacentauri2134
    @alphacentauri2134 2 года назад

    The best, sir! Thank you.🥰

  • @Pablogamalielm
    @Pablogamalielm 3 года назад

    Very creative!!! Thank you

  • @alicerossi_ap
    @alicerossi_ap 3 года назад +2

    Yay! Another great grammar lesson, thank you very much 😃

  • @bakribrahem319
    @bakribrahem319 3 года назад +1

    Best teacher ever 👌

  • @tubeman1983
    @tubeman1983 3 года назад +2

    Brilliantly explained! :)

  • @pascalmassie4706
    @pascalmassie4706 2 года назад

    Thanks. This is very helpful! I have lived in an English speaking country for years and I am still making occasional mistakes on that vs. which.

  • @tepan
    @tepan 2 года назад

    This apparent interchangeability of that and which kept bugging me for ages. Thanks for the explanation!

  • @hekmatshah8209
    @hekmatshah8209 2 года назад

    The lecture, which illustrates relative pronouns, was informative and easy.

  • @arwashatla1552
    @arwashatla1552 Год назад

    Your explanation, Which was brilliant , made me understand relative clauses

  • @lucafiorentini5292
    @lucafiorentini5292 3 года назад +5

    I used to call these two kinds of relative clauses "defining" and "non-defining"

  • @jacekmickiewicz5868
    @jacekmickiewicz5868 3 года назад

    Thank you, Sir!

  • @kikoissa
    @kikoissa 3 года назад +4

    It’s an excellent class!!! Thanks, boss.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      an excellent comment. Thanks

    • @kikoissa
      @kikoissa 3 года назад

      @@LetThemTalkTV Do you call a video like this a “lesson” or a “class”?

  • @kanav._
    @kanav._ 2 года назад

    Yesss!! I am here to learn with a doughnut. What more could I need in my life 🎉🎊😹

  • @lucianoazevedo4199
    @lucianoazevedo4199 3 года назад +2

    Excellent.

  • @internations6272
    @internations6272 2 года назад

    Such a great teacher 😎

  • @gsjethidromasajesgo1834
    @gsjethidromasajesgo1834 3 года назад

    Love your videos so much! 💕

  • @tubaizcier5021
    @tubaizcier5021 2 года назад

    Thank you 🥰

  • @everythingwithfeeling3305
    @everythingwithfeeling3305 3 года назад +2

    The awesome Teacher Back with The awesome Lecture.

  • @mariadengiz4410
    @mariadengiz4410 3 года назад +2

    Thanks 🙏

  • @carolclark5776
    @carolclark5776 2 года назад

    Because of trauma, did not get this info in high school but I can get it now, thank you .

  • @user-ys2ej9ru2s
    @user-ys2ej9ru2s 3 года назад

    Gideon, please! Need your advice!
    Is this relative clause formed correctly: ...the device for which an operational system was developed.
    I thank you very much.

  • @mojif9995
    @mojif9995 3 года назад +2

    another lovely lesson thanks very much
    that would be great if you make a video about casual english and common one which naitive speakers use them in everyday conversation

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      Good suggestion. I think I've made a few on that subject.

  • @pinellafranich6007
    @pinellafranich6007 3 года назад

    A very ispiring video for teachers.

  • @user-ws4py5np2f
    @user-ws4py5np2f 3 года назад +2

    Thank you sir 😘☺️🙏🙏🙏💓

  • @iamcurios
    @iamcurios 3 года назад

    Mr/Ms AliceRossy has got detailed explanation to his/her question 'THAT' he/she had asked in Paris Lockdown day 2 video 👏, while I've been asking having vs have had difference earlier than him but didn't get answer!!

  • @sivasenglishgrammar
    @sivasenglishgrammar 2 года назад +1

    Sir,I watch your videos regularly.I have benefitted from your videos.Especially,relative pronouns.This is my request.Could you make a video on the all uses of "could".It has many uses, which we can not understand.Please.P Siva Rao,India.

  • @uffa00001
    @uffa00001 Год назад

    If memory serves, my reference grammar (Grasso - Bottalla, for Italian learners) says that "that" is imperative when the restriction is an actual restriction, i.e. when there is a collection of objects, or persons, and one must refer to only a part of them. If I say "the students that have bought a ticket will be able to get in the museum" I actually mean that maybe not all students will get in the museum, but only those that have bought the ticket. If I want to say that all students have tickets (I know, I bought it for them etc.) I will say "the students, who have the ticket, will be able to get into the museum" and that is because all of them have the ticket, so there is no "restriction".
    By the same token, if I have more than one sister, I will definitely say: "the sister that lives in London gets married tomorrow" and not "the sister who lives in London gets married tomorrow". If I say "who" in this case, the implication is that I only have one sister. That all in "theoretical grammar".

  • @johnjustice8478
    @johnjustice8478 Год назад +1

    I thought a "relative claus" was when you find out your uncle is being Santa Claus this year in the shopping centre.

  • @federicodeangelis5026
    @federicodeangelis5026 3 года назад

    We might no be as brilliant as you imagine. Gre ‘meerien! :-)

  • @karinsvanback7497
    @karinsvanback7497 2 года назад

    I agree, that sounds better! Thank you, I love your teaching. All the best!! PS: Doughnuts are not the healthiest thing you can it. I could even add that Dr. Eric Berg, the famous nutrionist on RUclips, consider them the worst thing you can eat (poor police officers all over the world). What is on the other hand the best thing you can eat? Algae? Nutritional yeast? Wholegrains? I do not know but I am on the search for it. I therefore do not wish you doughnuts but the healthiest food there is both spiritual and physical. G-d bless you!! Love Karin from Italy, Sweden. (Swedish woman living in Italy that is haha).

    • @karinsvanback7497
      @karinsvanback7497 2 года назад

      I forgot perilla oil! Sorry THAT I was off topic previously, but now I am on again.

    • @karinsvanback7497
      @karinsvanback7497 2 года назад

      It was meant to be hilarious the fact that I only commented on the donuts (watch the spelling) - and not even more serious things like promiscuity. This because I understand you are only kidding. Except about the importance of grammar, you did not joke about that, of course! - but
      I did not receive any comment so I had to comment on my own comment (haha).

    • @karinsvanback7497
      @karinsvanback7497 2 года назад

      Did I mention I am always in the search for that WHICH is excellent and perfect, WHICH by the way is the very reason I found your channel. Thank you G-d!!!

  • @jimsbooksreadingandstuff
    @jimsbooksreadingandstuff 3 года назад

    These are guidelines not rules, which is an important qualification, in this useful video.

  • @sivabalankaniapan6275
    @sivabalankaniapan6275 3 года назад

    TQ SO MUCH

  • @findeducationhub7957
    @findeducationhub7957 3 года назад

    Love your t-shirt

  • @mamymimma
    @mamymimma 3 года назад +8

    Grammar gets Gideon, who's a fantastic teacher, in a good mood - which is great

  • @apmd5915
    @apmd5915 Год назад

    This was very interesting indeed. But how about "THAT WHICH?" I would love to hear Gideon talk about the dreaded "THAT WHICH"!

  • @frizerbee
    @frizerbee 3 года назад

    Love that t- shirt

  • @GoodNewsEveryone2999
    @GoodNewsEveryone2999 Год назад

    In American English grammar check software which is ALWAYS highlighted as incorrect and the suggestion is to switch it to that. I hate it. Sometimes, I have to set it to British English in order to get it to allow me to use which. I love which. The easiest trick I ever learned for whom is if you can replace the word with he or they you say who but if you could replace it with him or them you say whom.

  • @isabelatence7035
    @isabelatence7035 3 года назад +1

    Today's explanation was worth a lot, super class, here we say "AULÃO", I was not aware of how to use" which" it was more complete with other pronouns, easy peasy with favorite candy, Gideon my green shirt arrived, delayed due to wrong postal code, i am loving my Grammarian shirt👕🤩🤩

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +2

      Glad you liked the lesson. I hope you're happy with the t-shirt. Do send me a picture of you wearing it. My email is easy enough to find.

    • @isabelatence7035
      @isabelatence7035 3 года назад

      @@LetThemTalkTV Yes Gideon I am very happy with the t-shirt, very beautiful and creative. I see your email on the LetThemTalkTV website, it will be my pleasure to send. 🥰

    • @Eduardo-zt6td
      @Eduardo-zt6td 2 года назад

      Aulão? É do Brasil?

  • @prof.emanuelpaiva
    @prof.emanuelpaiva Год назад +1

    This is the cat whose tale is short.
    That boy to whom you were talking is my brother.

  • @hakanerbil1505
    @hakanerbil1505 2 года назад

    Thank you. I couldn't see any video link, where you pointed. 06:22

  • @shallum2977
    @shallum2977 3 года назад

    hahah Oh God I can spend hours watching your videos, you're so enjoyable

  • @ronenr1405
    @ronenr1405 3 года назад +1

    Great

  • @shyu8809
    @shyu8809 2 года назад

    Could you explain more about where? I heard a lot of times using ‘where’ with not places. Liks, ‘Have you ever had an instance where you just wanted to break them apart?’, ‘l know I have this weird thing where I want everything to be in the perfect place but’.

  • @monicas.9407
    @monicas.9407 3 года назад +1

    to this end , the greatest asset of a school is the personality of the teacher .

  • @uffa00001
    @uffa00001 Год назад

    "The girl from whom I got this doughnut" sounds very right to my non-native ear.

  • @user-iw5ow5lf4s
    @user-iw5ow5lf4s 2 года назад

    Tony Curtis would be honoured to be in this video.

  • @miyaseaytacyilmaz
    @miyaseaytacyilmaz 3 года назад +2

    Hiiiiii Gideon. I have missed that red wall and brown sofa. Of course lesson too. This is the super way that telling "which clause" by gesture. Mouth is between two hands like "which is between two commas". Never forget. Perfect. Let me know pleaese, is the first rule for women too? Don't telll your boy friend...Bye my genius teacher.

  • @antoniapoultsaki9256
    @antoniapoultsaki9256 3 года назад

    I love your work! You have a natural flair for this Gideon. Just a quick question. Why did you use "who" instead of "which" for the panda bear? Is it because in this example the cigar gives it a, let's say, human quality?

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      You can use who/that for humans or (sometimes) animals not which

    • @antoniapoultsaki9256
      @antoniapoultsaki9256 3 года назад

      Let me see if I got this right. Are you saying that the relative pronoun "which" should not be used for animals? This contradicts every EFL2 grammar book on the market. I'm more than curious to know if I've been teaching this the wrong way

    • @ashleyng323
      @ashleyng323 3 года назад +2

      @@antoniapoultsaki9256 I have the same view. I always use “which” for animals and things, and “who” for human beings.

    • @vasylysapre8059
      @vasylysapre8059 3 года назад

      ​@@antoniapoultsaki9256 That's because their English grammar says that a panda is IT)) But I guess I may have my own opinion on that)) So I never call an animal "it". Consequently not "which", but "who". That's all the logic.

    • @vasylysapre8059
      @vasylysapre8059 3 года назад

      Besides, smoking a cigar automatically puts the panda in the category "who", not "it")

  • @h.l.asolomonov7674
    @h.l.asolomonov7674 3 года назад +4

    The brain and doughnuts 🍩

  • @alkante2962
    @alkante2962 Год назад

    In french it is simply called :
    La proposition subordonnée relative.
    There is also :
    La proposition subordonnée conjonctive ou subordonnée conjonctive.

  • @mehditila7424
    @mehditila7424 3 года назад +1

    💙💙💙

  • @HaroudoXavier
    @HaroudoXavier 2 года назад

    Great explanation, thank you!

  • @leabreskovac8790
    @leabreskovac8790 9 месяцев назад

    Easy peasy relative pronouny!!

  • @sawmteafanai6505
    @sawmteafanai6505 3 года назад +3

    I bet this would be useful again.

  • @stephanestephane4291
    @stephanestephane4291 3 года назад

    hahaha that intro once again. 😂 😂
    about the second point as a french man I usually like to tease the Brits about their quirks
    but I see that Gideon and I could agree on that particular point.
    I can't help thinking that the Brits keep being attracted by the US like a magnet hence the brexit....

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      You're about the only person to get the second joke. Personally, I feel European and so do about 50% of British people. I can't speak for the others but I don't think they look to America but rather they'd say. "I'm British and nothing else."

  • @patriciahadley2374
    @patriciahadley2374 Год назад

    Just one little comment. I was taught that 'who' was only used with people, while for animals and things we used 'which'. Has something changed in the grammar world?

  • @th60of
    @th60of 3 года назад +1

    There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's Elvis... ;-)

  • @pussycatlover6522
    @pussycatlover6522 3 года назад

    16:20 you meant to say the chair not table 🤔 A slip of the tongue! 😉 Not to worry it happens! was absolutely a pleasure to have you here.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      You are right. I didn't notice it. That's what happens when you go off script.

  • @vitalis1691
    @vitalis1691 3 года назад

    dear Gideon, as for THAT/WHICH - "Let's go to THAT café we met last week"?

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      THAT as a determiner cannot be replaced by WHICH. 'Let't go to that café where we met last week.'

  • @ThePositiev3x
    @ThePositiev3x 3 года назад

    This guy, who looks very similar to Julius Caesar, is a perfect English teacher.

  • @linhadabeleza
    @linhadabeleza 3 года назад

    Grammarian! I like your t-shirt? Where can I buy one? I want the same.

  • @brigittecialdini8921
    @brigittecialdini8921 3 года назад

    HEEEELP ! GIDEON !
    I listened to your video several times but I cannot hear the second tip you give at the beginning.
    And even if it's a joke, I would like to understand .
    I send it to friends and none of them can hear so please could you send me the sentence of the second tip at the very beginning ....about the training or tradding( ? ) block ??
    And what is it ????
    Thank you very much for your brilliant lessons.
    I appreciate them a lot.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      It was just a joke (not very funny) about Brexit which is causing problems for British people in Europe

    • @donjan8816
      @donjan8816 2 года назад

      He says: ... don't ask your people if they want to leave the biggest trading block in the world (the EU) ... The joke is probably more funny than the fact, though.

  • @asurapain6822
    @asurapain6822 3 года назад

    I might have heard an R sound at the end of the word Saw, when you were reading the Panda-sentence, haven't?

  • @mulot5022
    @mulot5022 3 года назад +1

    Gideon one lady at once!

  • @lunavistapaola
    @lunavistapaola Год назад

    Donoughts next the cheese is a bit British too 👹😄🥰🥰

  • @Ricardo-xg6gx
    @Ricardo-xg6gx 3 года назад

    Hi teacher,
    The video gift (that) you gave us was amazing.
    The experimented teacher, who is an English in France, showed us all his knowledge of English Grammar.
    Thanks and greetings.

  • @onceuponatime2010
    @onceuponatime2010 3 года назад

    An insignificant question I reckon, but still since there's nothing insignificant in fact in Let Them Talk lessons I feel free to ask: right at the beginning, what is meant by the second thing I should keep away from doing?

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      It was a joke about Brexit which is proving difficult for many British people abroad. Sorry if it was a bit obscure

    • @donjan8816
      @donjan8816 2 года назад

      He says: ... don't ask your people if they want to leave the biggest trading block in the world (the EU) ... The joke is probably more funny than the fact, though.

  • @dilipkumarsinha42
    @dilipkumarsinha42 Месяц назад

    "There is no mother but loves her child."
    What is the meaning of the above sentence? Has the word "but" been used as a relative pronoun in the said sentence? Please tell me.

  • @LuisFernando-gj4md
    @LuisFernando-gj4md 3 года назад

    Your videos are amazing when it comes to teaching grammar. However, even though I like it when you tell us jokes, your humour still needs some work. Cheers.

  • @elenasony
    @elenasony 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for your effort. I am a beginner teacher of English. I wonder if such grammar focused classes really help the students in speaking. I feel like learning language in context is more efficient, since the brain will not invest the time in remembering and applying the grammar rules. We want the students to get to feel the language, which is obtained, my guess is, from repeated exposure to common language constructs. Explaining grammar has then merely the role to satisfy the curiosity or need of control of the student, but it doesn't really help him in acquiring fluency. Just my thought, I may be wrong.

    • @lamoinette23
      @lamoinette23 2 года назад

      The natural way to learn language is through exposure and without being taught grammar rules which come later. You don't have a conversation and stop in the middle.. wait.. what is the grammar rule for this? That isn't how native speakers learn. Some teachers are heavy on grammar though i personally feel it gets in the way of having a natural flow of speaking and learning. Grammar rules can help later to tidy up a student's speech and give explanations.

  • @sebashtiannumberone5431
    @sebashtiannumberone5431 3 года назад

    Yeah, Gideon, it sounds better to use that and not which for restrictive relative clauses. Slightly more natural

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      We agree.

    • @sebashtiannumberone5431
      @sebashtiannumberone5431 3 года назад

      @@LetThemTalkTV do u know what 'grosso' mean? It's an Argentinian expression. Informal.

    • @joseantoniodavila2752
      @joseantoniodavila2752 3 года назад +2

      It sounds better and more natural for Spanish speakers too. At least for me. Sometimes I misused "which" just because it sounds "more English", and I was corrected quickly. Now I understand the reason.

  • @sebashtiannumberone5431
    @sebashtiannumberone5431 3 года назад +2

    Gideon: Grosso!!!