POWERING ON 1998 Personal Submarine For First TIME!! (Restoring Micro Factory)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- We embark on part 3 of the 1998 submarine restoration project where we test the power for the first time and get some surprising results!!
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POWERING ON 1998 Personal Submarine For Fist TIME!! (Restoring Micro Factory)
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Don't forget to weigh the old batteries so when you add the new batteries you know how much weight you need to add or subtract to keep the original buoyancy as close to factory spec as possible.
That’s what I was comin on here to say. Good thinkin.
That's why he is planning on using lead ion batteries, instead of lithium ion batteries
I never heard him say that. Seemed like he was pretty up in the air about it. If that’s what ya heard, right on
Use heavy gel batteries and you would quadruple the rated power requirements
Not really. Just get a big fat guy to make up for it
Yooo put some high powered flood lights on the outside so you can see in murky water as well! Especially downward facing ones so you can see out the nose porthole like a large led light bar or something. Would really suck if you ran into something on the first dive.
The best use for this kind of sub is shallow and crystal clear water like in barrier reefs. You'll get beautiful sight seeing.
he needs to use housing and not LEDs…. Housing penetrates water better
@@labangeneraux5608 I've seen some pretty powerful LEDs that have cut through some pretty murky water just in handheld flashlight form.
@@noe616 I'm not sure there's a lot of that where Brandon is at. A lot of the places that I would see him using this is a lake where silt can get kicked up pretty easily. Would be a good idea to put some at the foot very bottom facing forward and back so it could light up underneath the vessel.
"Good Enough" are dangerous words when it comes to subs, rockets, and airplanes. Just do it right first and then test it. The more you fiddle with it half heartedly, the more of a chance it gets broken and you become more complacent. Just remember a failure could mean the lives of anyone on this thing. None of us want to see any of you guys hurt or worse.
Exactly what I was thinking. I know he is eager to get it in the water but like the sub expert he brought it to after he bought it said, he really needs to tear the whole thing down and confirm everything is in good condition. Decades of sitting can dry out and rot many things and even a small amount of moisture can corrode and rust.
That comment kinda took me by surprise as well. I was thinking “WTF?”
Calm down Capt Nemo, he is a qualified submariner.
@@michaelbrownlee9497 Doesn't surprise me youd use make believe characters in your make believe opinion. If he's a sub expert, im Ron Jeremy and ill have your mom home safe at 10pm.
Good enough only works for horseshoes and hand grenades
Just make sure you got enough amp hours under a load before entering the water. Finding out how many amp hours in the last battery setup is where you should start and then plan accordingly. Amp draw is also important and how hot things get. LifePO4 might be a great replacement. Sweet sub
LifePO4 go BOOM in water.........bad juju
water and lithium do NOT mix
Make sure that you check the shaft seals ( that penetrate the sub on both sides) for you ascent/ descent. They may have dried out from not being used.
Next stop: Mariana Trench!
Um
it can't go that deep lol
@@ryanbaseball7629 not with that attitude it cant
@@ryanbaseball7629 anything is possible
@@ryanbaseball7629 that’s what your mo… wait, nvm. That’s messed up. 🫡
Silvercrest submarines in the UK still make these, and a lot of other subs up to 48 seaters and even make support platforms.
I'm sure if you need any parts or advice they can help. can't wait to see it in the water.
Shhhh.....the guy who sold it to him told him it's a rare sub
@@Bmxdad40 Literally, the company that made this one is still in business with new versions starting at $120k
@@SrslyNoz. oh wow......and I could have sworn I heard him say something about $200k for this one......I didn't watch the video before this about this
@@Bmxdad40 I goggled sport sub and found the website for the Vancouver company that's been building these since 1986, they were named IVC but not recently.
@@Bmxdad40 its not even a sub..its a diving bell.
When you look for new batteries make sure they are rated for underwater vehicles! Going down many atmospheres can put unwanted pressure on those and may squeeze the batteries
ah yeh thats why there are so many of them
This sub goes only 150+/- feet. Pressure isn't an issue unless it sank catastrophically.
@Brandon Lee exactly
also when replacing batteries.. got to replace the weight that the old batteries had to keep the sub properly balanced
I have the idea that these need to be a specific style of battery and that's the first thing, weight comes next
Love the guys enthusiasm matching yours on this project. Hell yeah brother.
From what I understand Lithium iron phosphate battery's are the most stable and safe around saltwater conditions. I have been following another RUclipsr who is completely restoring a 100 year old sailing yacht the "Tally ho" and in one of his last videos he was talking about them to use as a massive battery bank to power his boat. And they are very heavy battery's also so they might be a good option to keep the weight similar.it might be worth looking into. Also you should definitely weigh the old batteries and whatever new ones you decide to use so you know how much ballast weight to add or remove to keep the overall weight the same.
In the future, remember to take the lead out before you have to move.
Once you learn to calculate ballast per load out, you get used to arranging shot bags for balance .
Your rig is set up with a constant vent in the cab. You will have to valve that if you want to keep a bubble for talking.
2 Liters of air lifts 1 Kilo weight.
Do not include the weight of the passengers or gear that isn't stationary.
Can I ask how you know this? I’m amazed when I see how many folks know about specific subjects no matter how obscure the topic
I thought it was 1 litre 1 kg 😂 (I’ve been at this awhile, but maybe I’ve misunderstood something).
@@sqaure4175 I would guess submarine people get attracted to videos about submarines 😂 (that’s what pulled me over anyway)
@@SchrodingerDeeps Fair enough. Lol Now I gotta know what correct the conversion is.
It looks like Snoopy?
This is soo cool! Kind of emotional watching you go through this journey that you thought would take months and it’s literally right around the corner (and who knows…..? Maybe you’re already in the water by now!) I’m so excited! You’re my kid’s ages and I’m like your mom and have her reaction that this sub is soo adorable. Especially when the propellers started working and the flappers were going. I can’t stand it! I almost cried!
I bet something fails on the first test then it works on the second.
Electrical engineer here! I would suggest using as similar lead-acid batteries as you can to the old ones. Most likely they were much better sealed than even marine lead-acid to prevent water ingress in case the case seal failed, and lead-acid tends to play a bit nicer with water in case of total failure than lithium will. However, lead-acid tech as not improved much since '97, so you likely won't get much improvement on power, if any at all. Additionally, lead-acid batteries are really easily recyclable, so you honestly might be able to refurbish the old ones at a specialty shop. Although it might cost more then new batteries. That being said, I'm sure there are ways to use lithium batteries underwater if you want increased performance. Finally, I would make sure you check the bearings on the motors. After sitting for a while the bearings might be flat on one side.
SPORT SUBMARINE VIDEO FROM BACK IN THE DAY... THIS IS AMAZING WHEN SHE COMES TO LIFE
This is gonna be an amazing journey, you could go check out shipwrecks with this thing. Maybe you could install a vacuum system that sucks up and blows sand away from a dive site. Can't wait to see where you go from here.
That is an awesome and useful idea
@@Nighterlev Well sure, he wouldn't be able to deep dive. There's a whole lot of coastline that can be covered in those ranges. But, at least some percentage occurred in more shallow areas. Not saying all, or a majority, but there's certainly more than a few.
I am excited for you my man. Can't wait to see this puppy underwater. Make sure you read every manual you have on this and know them by heart. Safety is key. Don't want you going down with the ship.
Exactly I’m kinda nervous for him when he’s going under water with that thing especially because he needs to know everything about this submarine
Brandon, my lord, please be safe !!!!!!!!!!
Dot't be silly - goiing down with this ship IS the whole idea !!
@@stupitdog9686 dude I know and for sure I want to see Brandon doing that but still it’s terrifying man
Another thought I had (for safety) is to keep the sub on a tether while it is taken on a shake down run. That way you can retrieve the sub if batteries die out before re-surfacing.
Nah, the thing won't sink past a certain depth. Imagine a log that's submerged but won't sink.
He did say in an earlier video he was thinking of hooking a tether line and a buoy to one of the lift points when he starts testing it. That way if it sinks he has a recovery line.
Won't need batteries to surface, only compressed air. So the thing to watch is not the batteries but the air bottles.
@@Murgoh They could also just toss some of the lead ballast out of the back.
@@shananagans5 Technically yeah but I'd rather just use compressed air instead of throwing lead in the water. Not sure if it's that bad for the environment but better safe than sorry
Nice job guys! What a rush to feel things moving and powered up. Having experience with thrusters like those which I used to manure my houseboat around, at some point I would take the time and take them apart to reseal and check the brushes and armature inside. I bought a used set and the very first thing I did was refurbished the guts to make them reliable.
Great idea, Jeff. I'm thinking the seals on the prop shafts are probably dried out after being dry docked for many years. I would definitely rebuild the motors and change out all the seals to prevent seawater from leaking into the motors at depth.
I’m stoked to see JIGGIn Jordan The Jet Submarine in the water! Shit is gonna be a beast, watched all 4 videos and I’m trying to see the fifth video already lol! It’s pretty exciting to see the hard work everyone put in to enjoy the best! A harpoon mounted on the submarine is brilliant 😂
Suggestion... Make a rubber gasket for the top of the battery compartment. Might work better than the silicone you easily peeled off. Maybe even a steel ring around the top to bolt the clear top down real tight without fear of cracking what looks to be acrylic.
tpu 3d print?
Good idea
You definitely need to add some sort of metal detecting rig to it and/or treasure hunting rig. Like a way to redirect prop wash… also need to do the first underwater catch, clean, cook!
Haha what an idea! Maybe Sushi of some kind!
I love how genuinely excited you get! Awesome series man!
I love this project, childhood dream to own one. Great that it is running.
This was a very good investment. Like you said in an earlier video, only youtube channel with one of these. I can't not continue watching. I absolutely have to see what you do with this thing and how you do it. This is just awesome. Can you imagine how you would be able to spear fish with this thing 100 ft down just swimming out of it and getting something crazy big and swimming back in for air? And if the spear gun line was anchored to it the fish wouldn't get away. You might just pioneer a whole new way of spear fishing.
just avoid lithium batteries because if they get wet they cause an explosion so just be careful but other than that the vid was amazing
And yet most marine toys these days use lithium batteries. I guess the tip is to waterproof them so they don't get wet.
It's only dangerous if the cells are damaged, normal 18650 cells you can throw in water without anything happening
im super pumped to see this project progress! I love ocean exploration and im stoked to see what kind of underwater treasures you come across in this thing
That is incredibly exciting! So stoked for you. Looking forward to the progress and sooner than expected water test.
definitely one of the coolest series on YT rn!
These videos are cool and I’ll watch whatever you put out, but I cannot wait to see this thing in the water!
Congratulations Brandon ! 👍
I'm so happy to see those props spinning !
Also add LED HI lumen lights and cameras forward, aft, and definitely bottom. Also for safety, modify a manual ballast eject system for critical failure(s) loss of power that is unless you want to suffocate.
The bottom is open at the back so there already is a manual ballast eject system, just drop some of the lead bars out. Of course this does not need electricity to surface, just need to have air in the tanks to blow out the water and the valves for that are mechanical. The electricity is only needed to move the thing forward.
That’s so badass that it still works after so long!! Love this series! Keep it up!
You have probably already seen it but there is an original promo video for it on RUclips. It looks great! Lots of video of it in operation and explains the basic concepts of how it works. I'm no sub designer but it looks to be very smart and very safe once you understand how it works
I love that you’re not only fixing it but customizing to your needs
I think you should leave the outside alone. It's a piece of history. Just maybe touch up the current design.
The red lights are a great choice for visibility but remember you can have any color you want if you get the right LED’s.
Awesome job guys, don't forget to yell "clear prop" just like airplanes when you push the joy stick to make sure the guys on the outside are not touching the propellers. Keep up the good work!!
Awesome series. Probably the best idea from any channel. Can’t wait to see it in the water!
This is an awesome process to watch! Almost better then if it came working perfectly
Dude! I am retired Navy, 67 years old. I rode submarines in the 70s and 80s. I think a ride on that sub would make a great birthday present. Just sayin' 😊
Dude take him out for Veterans Day. That video would be the best and local news would pick up on it too.
Thanks for your service to our country Mr Henderson.
@@vickyferrier4265 Thanks for the suggestion. 😊
@@grampy2014 Thank you. It was my pleasure.
So glad you got the sub running. Seems like its already brand new! Keep up the grind🤙🏼
If you're going to put new batteries, you have to make sure that compartment the amount of weight stays the same and if the battery is smaller than you're going to have to use lead
The main design of the submarine is the battery compartment because it's the ballast tank it's what it's allowed to keep to submarine where you can control it underwater
Hopefully the new batteries will fit in the waterproof housing.
Cool Beans!! Congratulations !! I think the biggest possibility of leaks would be where your directional handles to the motors go thru the hull. The seals may be dried out in there. Looking forward to your maiden voyage. The SS Minnow
I work on forklift lifts for a living. I’m not a sub mechanic lol. But i do work on a lot of electrical forklifts. I would use flooded batteries. They will be cheaper for you also you don’t really need a special charger for them. All you need to do is found out what the weight Then match it up from there. Also I know they make one big 24 volt battery that might work. Keep in mind the more min amps you have the longer the running time. Hope that helps. One more thing dialectic grease is your best friend use it on all the plugs. Will help from keeping things from corroding from the salt water
You should be able to up the voltage to 36v. I know your wanna go faster. Those motors can be easily replaced.
The box with the batteries will be submerged. If there is a leak the voltage needs to be low enough he doesn’t die.
IMO LTO batteries are the way to go. Massive amounts of reserve power, very stable, and reliable. If you have the budget. Upgrade the propulsion for more speed/thrust.
well, he said his sub has water in it and the battery was sealed for that reason, lithium an water don't agree at all. one pinhole and bad times ahead and trapped under water
@@carpenoctem7662
Lithium batteries are sealed and waterproof. Same with LTO batteries.
I was holding my breath when the submarine was lifted from the trailer 😂 I'm all in this like it's my own.
Coolest thing you could have bought honestly!
* Edit. Awhhhyeah when the power turned on. Such proper honest excitement!! 🥳🥳🥳
This is such an awesome journey.
Loving this so much for you! *
Hey Jordan, take this for whatever it offers but there’s a RUclips channel called ”stymer “ with 3 videos that I believe to be exactly the same as your submarine. The videos don’t really explain much as it was for a commercial I assume, but loving what you’re doing keep up the fantastically entertaining videos and we hope to see that sub cruising underwater soon!
That is a Sport Sub. Pretty cool!
Great to see that you got professional help with the submarine, and looking forward to seeing the great content that’s going to be made with it🔥🔥
Cool dude. You just need a little training to manage risks with batteries. Voltage is not the problem here. Short-circuit current consequences, yes. Also, using Lead-Acid batteries, be carefull of the hydrogen accumulation in your confined hull.
You can get sealed lead acids. Or agm
@@918Kustomz yep, but even gel or solid sealed lead batteries must have valves. The chemistry is chemistry. You charge, you have hydrogen. Pressure must remain safe !
We need to run up the likes on Jiggins videos to help him pay for sub 💪
😂😂😂 honestly it helps so much. Ya boy is breaking the bank with this thing!
@@JigginWithJordan ready to see it in the water
Love the Sub and it's a dream come true. Simply AWESOME!!!!! Looking forward to all the updates!
seal and put valves in to make ballast tanks to remove lead ingots. add extra compressed tanks also. add sonar ( fish finder should do) Change over to lithium battery packs. Add spot light. Add CO2 scrubber and emergency buoyancy kit. Tilting trailer will help also.
Please use Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) Batteries, those are among the safest within lithium batteries. They will power this submarine all day long!
Great to see the motors are still running. Dont go to far the first time underwater as the first one I used ceased after 15mins of running due to it not being underwater for a long time.
I am an older woman and I recall these things being sold as kits back in the 80s. There should be some assembly manuals floating around somewhere. Finding one may not exactly be easy but if you can locate one it may be helpful.
I would definitely upgrade those old motors. For more power and for safeties sake.
Congratulations!! Your excitement is infectious and I love watching it. You should offset the weight of the old batteries with new ones and cool upgrades. The weight difference should give you a lot of wiggle room!! I am so happy the internal electronics are good to go! Frickin epic.
That Battery was installed on my wife’s 14th birthday lol this is a really badass project can’t wait to see how it comes out.
Nice looking job can't wait to see it in the water. Good luck
coming from an industrial back ground, I'd recommend looking into lithium golf cart batteries. they last forever and are purposely designed to be recharged. just my humble 2 cents. love the show.
I lost it when the beast came to life! That is so awesome man. You are literally living my lifelong dream! I have always fantasized about owning my own submarine
Super cool! Can't wait to see that thing in the water.
Have fun!
While the big yellow fan was sat behind it I thought hmmmm... that looks pretty cool, that'd be sooo much fun! So I definitely think you need to buy 1 giant housed prop that looks similar to the fan to put on the rear as well as new trolls on the side!? Could hook the steering up to it too!? :D hahaha
Oh yeah can't wait to see your first underwater video
The factory is nice and CLEAN 👏👏👏👏
I would use optima batteries the blue top ones they are excellent batteries are used them all the time in boats they can take vibration excellent they can take some heat and they last for a long time
Wow! I´d abso-frickin´-lutely LOVE a ride in this thing! Certified AOWD and available almost anytime.
Amazing the things you see on live. 😉😉😂😂
This sub & accessories 😎 are gonna be so cool.
You might want to look into upgrading the prop motors. Imagine the tech advances in motors since 98. Go brushless
As far as the 24V battery goes, retrofit that compartment with a hinge attached from the base to plexi glass on top (make sure all through holes drilled for the hinge are sealed with some sort of a gasket) then seal the plexi glass top with a gasket as well (like an o-ring). Also make sure that the seal can withstand the pressure experienced in the sub to the max depth it can reach.
Happy for you! Only thing I got for you is , be careful on adding too much stuff to the SUB , you might mess with it’s buoyancy and weight limits for floating and seeking !
whatever colour you wrap it in make sure it's bright and contrasts the water. if you have a failure you want to be as visible as possible. I know the guy that helped design these subs and have contacts for other sub builders up here in Canada if you're interested.
As for the batteries, they can catch on fire quicker in salt water then fresh, and the whole cabin will almost flash burn from the oxygen.
It would be a shame if there wasn't a Nautical Bros emblem somewhere on that rig! Amazing!!
If there was a way to seal the hatch for getting in and then have a bilge pump below a shallow decking floor you could have a dryish sub. Might be tricky with the air pressure inside the sub once air sealed but I’m sure you could regulate the air pressure with air tanks. Air pressure on the inside is going to be a learning process.
Very cool, but just because they work in the dry does not mean all you electrical systems are still sealed and will work under water. I probably would reseal the controls panel and motor lead access or check it good (must be control relays somewhere also). I have worked with an electrician on a fountain pump in a building (we replaced the pump that sprayed up water) and junction box was under water, we had to drain pool and redo. The electrician had some epoxy that was made to seal the box (we opened box and resealed it, so it must come apart). Weight is probably going to be hardest part, if you do not match your old battery weight it may have issue with bouyancy, but you don't need same weight batteries, just add ballast. Also if you work a lot with Batteries wool clothes will not dissolve by battery acid.
My god, congrats Dude that's amazing . So glad you didn't have to waste so many resources to get the sub working. I'm so excited I can't wait
This is gold content
congrats big youtube payoffs coming for you fella
Respect from Western Australia
I googled batteries for a submarine and quite a few of them came up good luck I have enjoyed your content
Really dope its working, thought it'll be months before we see it's first dive, 😁 can't wait to see the next video🎉
I would suggest a flag on a flexible pole on the front of the sub just so you can tell which way you're going or not visually underwater. Make sure if you do that it can flex & not break!
This is gonna be EPIC. Im glad it works
That was awesome to watch the sub have power.
That is so awesome. Congrats. Hey to make us all feel better I hope you start using it in a swimming pool
Very exciting, Glad it came together relatively quick with no major issues. Cant wait to see the future videos of you and your buddies using it. Be safe, make sure you understand how it all works, obviously lol.
Bro you just became my favorite vlogger with this purchase
A submarine is such a dream
Six days before I graduated college ->12/8/97 I'm nearly a relic, so a battery from that time is definitely a relic.
I think you should wrap it with black stealth camouflage, put gold jigging logos on both sides and on top of the nose then for the stands for the guns do like an oak color. Wish I could photoshop my idea but I don’t know how to do that!
OMG vice grips
proper tool for the job is the best way to start
This is super exciting lol literally can not wait to see this thing in the water
Easily the most exciting video series to date this has always been a dream of mine at least I can watch you do it. Looking forward to the next one 😀 👍
The wrap should be a memorial to Jock Cousteau.
enjoying the submarine videos, can't wait to see it in the water
One dude built a 100km e bike by building his own li battery using 1060 cells, an off the shelf bms, and a pelican case sealed with silicone caulk. Maybe that would work well along side all the mods you'll be including. Just keep most of the weight below the deck to avoid throwing off your ballast.
That is dope and gorgeous! Can't wait to see it next under the water. Great video!
Him talking about '97/'98 being such a long time ago makes me feel so frikin old!
Classic yellow sub or a nice dark camo color would be really good for sneaking up on fish but if it’s ocean sub maybe go for a blueish color or even tan