If the mother or parents really hate the child, they'll neglect it or abuse it. Many infants to toddlers get abused and then die from being hit over and over. Putting a unwanted baby in a baby box is better than having to deal with it at home. It won't get abused and has the fairest start in life with higher chances of being fostered or adopted, as many abused kids have trauma and are too much for foster parents.
I think it is good bc some ppl can’t even afford pregnancy testers or go to the doctors. It’s pretty expensive just to get an appointment over there. So I think it should be there. But yea some ppl don’t deserve to have the option to just dumping the baby, but ig it is better environment for the children that growing in an unsafe or unstable home environment
@@gansz_lol The problem is that the baby when he grows will always be sad for two reasons Because his parents abandoned him And if his parents didn't abandon him, he wouldn't live a good life knowing that his parents never loved him.
It's a known fact that abandoned children fail to live longer and make past their teens. Even if they did, they will grow up neglected. There are only handful of happy stories like oh the abandoned child got adopted to a well off loving family or the parents realised their mistake and started loving their child. It happens. But it's rare. If you do not want a child, I think it's better to abort it. If it's too late, the government should provide some financial aid to parents/mom who cant bring up a child
I’m just sad for some of those babies some who will grow up and curious enough to wonder who their parents are and will find ways to contact them later in life. They will most likely never know who they are considering it is not in the orphanage.. That I think is one of the few disadvantages of this baby box thing but other than that the baby box is really helpful
@@hazelmint6671you do know that lots of the babies found in orphanages are left outside in the cold on steps of police stations and fire houses, right at least this way someone who can take care of the child knows they are there and the baby is kept warm in the interim
it's way better to leave your child in a baby box than to raise them in a household where they don't feel loved or don't feel like they have the right resources. it's ridiculous to discriminate against people who had kids but can't afford to raise them. people have different stories and the baby box will improve and change a child's story for the better.
What’s ridiculous is having a baby when you can’t afford to raise them. The only exception is sexual assault or grooming, otherwise whoever has a baby only to abandon them is disgusting.
@@myouniverse0613 well you never know what happened with the parents before the had to abandon their baby they might have planned the baby and had the means but then something happened and they knew the baby would be better off growing up loved and somewhere their child will grow up with proper necessities they are not just abandoning their baby in some alley way they are dropping off their baby somewhere they know they will be properly cared for no matter what their reason they are making sure their baby will be safe some people just don’t have a choice there is no one reason that it’s ok sometimes you know your baby will be better off
@@Remui396 They don’t “know” the baby will be better off. They assum the baby will be, but there is literally ZERO reassurance that the baby is not going to end up in an abusive family or end up never adopted at all.
The baby box has also been implemented in South Africa at one place. It’s a wonderfull resource because there are just too many cases of desperate mothers abandoning their children in horrible places ao having a better option is a miracle. If you’ve made up your mind to leave your baby then a baby box is by far the best place to put them.
We have the baby box here in America too. I think its a good thing to have these, that way there are no reports of child abuse by inexperienced parents, or parents who do not want the baby and abuse them till their adults. Theres alot of people in this world who grew with with terrible childhoods, and still living with that trauma in their adulthood and as elders
@@ms.pirate thats very true, I didn’t want to specify in the comment because its disturbing but there have been cases of babies being put in grocery bags and left in the bin Of course we only hear of it when the baby is recused but the fact that is even an option for some people shocks me.
People love to pay attention to things like this and complain instead of wondering just why a parent would have/want to give up their child. Cause it's easier to get mad at something like this than acknowledge the ginormous systemic problems that play into this issue.
Right, I'm not a mother, and too young to be one. But there are way to many adults living with childhood trauma from inexperienced parents, and parents who do not want children. Edit: well to some people, I'm old enough to be a parent. But I think being 23 is still too young, so I think I should just enjoy my youth while I still have whats left of it
@@myouniverse0613 Rape, pressure/coercion, lack of sexual education, birth control failure. Maybe for some of them their financial situations suddenly changed. You never know what kinds of situations people can find themselves in.
if people think the parents would be irresponsible to put the baby in the box then wouldnt they be too irresponsible to keep the baby and raise it well? they would probably end up with a miserable child and/or a much worse ending unfortunately. it is so much better for the child and the parents to have a baby box than to be forced by peer pressure to raise a kid you cant afford to raise or dont want to raise
@@SnowWhite_..._SNOWwhite ur rlly dumb, a lot of the times these parents dont know theyre pregnant until after its too late to have an abortion or theyre forced to go thru with the pregnancy, the babies wont remember being put in the box and theyll be adopted by families that love them and theyll live a better life, some people cant abort their children because of health reasons and some of these children are products of r@pe or an accidental pregnancy that they have to go through with
Ok, if critics say dropping off the baby at the baby box is the easy way out, why don't they take care of the child? They all should be a great fit since they're experts on responsibility. 🙄
I think it’s really good The mothers who put their babies must care for them if they didn’t they wouldn’t go all the way to the baby box and instead would put the babies on the street or something
I don't care if it "allows them to abandon their responsibilities", when there is actually lives involved we need to stop getting mad at something that objectively saved lives because you can't get over one principle
We have a ton of them in the US and fire stations/hospitals/police stations will take a child without any questions asked. There are so many reasons why people might do this. They could be too poor, have abusive partners, be mentally ill, or just unfit to take care of them. Better the baby goes to a real parent who has open arms instead of a bad home where it could really cause harm
@@thatasiangirl0_039 that's the thing, they dont ask questions. we also have baby boxes in poland but when a baby is there, all of the nearest police stations get crazy and look for a mother and of course it's everywhere on news, even though people dont support that publicity. it' the a law that the mother must relinquish custody, ik its stupid
I'm not questioning the mothers had their reasons, but at the same time. Leaving the baby in any of these places doesn't garentee the baby will have a good life or even a family.
@@jonghun8468 If the baby is healthy it probably will have loving parents and good home at least in some countries. In my contry people wait for newborns for a long time to adopt them. Most kids that are not being adopted are kids that are taken later in life from their abusive homes or sick ones.
Considering that they would also loop around to first double check with the mother and see if she needs help, I say it is a very good idea. You hear about how in Korea, mothers would leave the babies in the mountains or outside a church where there was no heat and sometimes no one would know they were there because the mothers were so scared and would be shamed if they tried to give up the child face to face. This way the babies are safe and the mothers are also respected without fear of shame especially when they didn’t want the pregnancy, cannot afford to have a child, are children themselves, etc.
Good way for protecting a child from being dumped in a trash bin and good for an adoptee who wants to avoid being in contact with the real parents of their adopted kid
In the Czech republic, there are also baby boxes. Some people felt uneasy about it first, but it saved so many lives that now the magority is glad that they exist. Sometimes it happens that a fresh mother just panics and leaves her baby there, then realises she can handle it, and comes to pick it up again. And if not, the baby is free for adoption after a couple of days, and makes people happy who want but can't have a baby of their own.
This true for the Korean baby box as well! When the light monitor goes off inside the box, normally a volunteer will run out to chat with the parent. They’re offered financial and emotional support, sometimes ending in the parent (most cases the mother) taking their child back home, this time with a support system.
Baby boxes should not be seen as an "easy" anything. They are literally saving lives. Parents who realize they cannot take care of a baby and know that someone out there would love to care for their baby should not be punished or ridiculed. They are showing the ultimate love for their child by making the hardest decision possible. Not everyone should be a parent and it takes a lot of love for your child to recognize this fact and try to make sure the baby gets the best possible future even if it's not with the biological parent.
If someone isn’t equipped to have/raise a baby, no matter what responsibilities u give them, their not equipped to have that baby. The baby with either be neglected somewhere in a trash can or safely in that box and under care.
Another thing is, there is a bell that rings when a baby is placed inside. The Pastor or whoever is present immediately runs out to see if they can get hold of the parent and counsel them to continue taking care of the child or if they would like to have some help. Some change their mind and some don't because of their dire situation. A wonderful effort by the couple.
It’s a very common thing in Germany mostly for hospitals and leaving babies that can’t provide for on a churches doorstep is an even older concept here. I think it saves a lot of babies from more harm. Desperate parents might resort to worse than leaving their children if they are not provided a solution like that. It also saves children from growing up in an environment that doesn’t want them and/or can’t provide for them emotionally/monetarily ( not saying that the foster system is a perfect place 😢 ). In some cases the parent/ mother is a drug user or in a abusive relationship etc and they might not have a save place to raise the baby.
We have the baby box here in America too. I think its a good thing to have these, that way there are no reports of child abuse by inexperienced parents, or parents who do not want the baby and abuse them till their adults. Theres alot of people in this world who grew with with terrible childhoods, and still living with that trauma in their adulthood and as elders
Yes, I think it's beneficial to be having a baby box because the mothers of those kids wants their kids to have a good life instead of aborting it or leaving it in the streets. You can tell those mothers care and love their kids to make sure they have a good life.
As Korea didn’t allow abortions (only in severe cases) It is/was a better option to make sure the mother won’t harm herself nor the baby. Hoping for a positive result in the future regarding the abortion discussion happening right now in South Korea ☺️🙏
The moms who chose life for their children should be praised, perhaps they have an abusive partner, no child should have to deal with that. The baby box is definitely a far better option than neglect, abuse, abortion, or abandonment in a far worse place.
It might be them running away from their responsibilities but that's such an awesome and beautiful thing to do. If they can't take care of it, best for someone else to do so, giving them what they need to grow instead. I think it's a really good idea as it helps out the little children.
This box has literally saved 2 thousand babies that could very easily have wound up in a dumpster or worse. It happens every day in every country in the world. A lot of the world isn't kind to teenage mothers, and you have to remember they are just scared children themselves. That pastor and his wife are literal saints.
I teach a 60+ year old Korean lady English. She was adopted after being found on the streets of South Korea when she 2-3 years old. She has disabilities but she is still a great person. She hangs around my mom every other day. I think that the baby box is a great idea.
I live in the US and just read a news article about a baby abandoned in a dumpster in my city who got hypothermia and is currently fighting for its life in the NICU at the hospital. This is a RESOURCE, NOT taking the easy way out. To even get to the point of desperation to abandon your child is such a gut wrenching heart breaking decision to begin with. If there is a safe way to do this then I am going to support that 100%
If a parent wants to take care of their child they would do it no matter what , even if they had to struggle a lot . But those who are willing to leave their child will leave them even if baby boxes did not exist . So baby boxes are way better even for parents who really can't take care of their child due to any financial problems or ect . And even for babies who would have been left alone on streets or in garbage if the baby boxes weren't a thing
Im from the u.s so that's nothing new to me because we have those here. I mean i guess the baby box is better than just leaving the child on the street but you cant just run away from responsibilities like that. I get it if their young moms/teen moms but still. At least the babies will actually get taken care of and sent to a better family
it’s safer this way. Rather than raise a baby when you yourself are still very young, not able to support yourself financially yet, and quite possibly not be able to raise a baby in a household that doesn’t make you feel loved, its for the best. Yes it’s heartbreaking to let go, but its better off to leave the baby to someone who can give what you cant
The priority is the health and safety of that baby. If a baby box means it will be rescued and given medical treatment and social services, then it can only be a good thing. And before we criticize a woman who gives up her child, we need to ask why she felt this was her last choice and what we as a society can do better to support those who need it when they need it.
So this isn't entirely true. It can differ depending on where you are from in the states. Also they want the baby to be a certain age or have it dropped off in a specific time frame. They need it to be one of the birth parents & they need to make contact with them.
We have this in california. I worked in a place helping feed children and a teen became pregnant and did not want the child. She confided in me that she did not want the child. I asked if she would give some time to think. She stayed healthy, had the child but a week into it she knew she wanted school then college and felt it couldnt be done with a child. I suggested adoption, a family member and the baby box because it was anonymous. She put the baby in the dumpster. I do not know why. Box wouldve been better.
She said she did not want the child you should have directed her to an abortion clinic, but no, you doomed that baby to a trashcan. Were you willing to pay for all that child’s needs and take care of her? If not stop encouraging people to keep a human life that that don’t want.
@@rebeccagarrett7111 Nasty attitude. So let me help you out Karen. Evjdently you think she was early in her pregnancy...she wasn't as far as I could see when she spoke to me. I could clearly see her belly. I also don't and didn't know anything about her, her life or family. I was working for a non profit feeding low income children not a coucelor. I doomed? Omg..why Karen?She put the baby there. Why she said that to me I will never know AND it was not my place to suggest her kill her child when she had to be in her final trimester or close to it AND not my place to suggest anything more than I did because I did not know her and I have no idea why she said that to me. What I could do was make sure her nutrition was the best I could provide at my job so I did. A random chld told me she was in the hospital to give birth a couple weeks or so after she said that to me. After work I went to see her I also hoped a parent was there. Her mom was an addict and I never could get to her to let her know what she said. The girl looked so sad. Her mom was not there. The things I suggested were all there was left that I knew of. I doomed? Really Karen? She put the child there and I have no idea why she did not or if she did say anything to the social worker at the hospital, use the box or seek adoption services. I JUST HAVE NO IDEA! Willing to pay? I have 3 children of my own and wasnt seeking a 4th AND the girl is not my daughter, I was NEVER able to tell her mother and I tried..hard. Her dad wasnt in the home I dont think and the one sister I found was younger and not a lot of help. The post is about the baby box which I agree with its use. Being pretty much a stranger to her and having her say this was a trip but bite me Karen I was not responsible her mother/family was. What I was responsible for was reporting her mom to CPS for having a pregnant teen and allowing her 2 sons to show up to eat completely filthy and one of them came in a pee filled diaper so I bought diapers and changed him then fed him. Now why dont you stop Karen? Feel free to check yourself then ask me anything you like but do not speak to me in that manner please. This was a horrible amd shocking situation and also an example of why baby boxes are needed. We need this choice. Also I seems like you think I am a pro-lifer. I am not. Had I not had pregnancy choices I would be dead. Maybe take this Karen attitude over to facebook, get in one of those groups that argue about abortions and Karen-out over there.
I visited a place in Korea. They also have rooms to drop off the babies so they can feel safer leaving their baby in a spacious place than a box. Sometimes the pastor tries to talk to the parents and offer them assistance in case that’s what they need instead
Not everyone wants a child, it's better this way then to leave those children with parents that don't want them or are unprepared mentally/financially/physically. Though, I have to say, they also need to take accountability for their actions regardless. It depends on their reason(s) on why they abandon their "unwanted" child so I can't really say much about it. Not all of them have the same reasons or circumstances
I remember this story. The man started this after finding many babies were already being dumped/abandoned along near his street. People were already doing it beforehand. People who give up their child are either very desparate or not fit to be parents. No matter how you look at it the baby box is in the best interest for the babies, it's better than being raised by someone who couldnt afford the children or even from those parents who dont want children.
We have the same thing in Germany and I think it’s a great thing. We had some cases of women in really bad and abusive situations who had their babies in secrete, oftentimes not even in the hospital, and just left their newborns to die. The baby box is a way better alternative
Every town in every country needs one to be honest the amount of babies that are mistreated, malnutritioned even abused or blamed and hated is sad. Let’s just hope they feel loved and grow up well
i think it’s a good idea, it saves the child and gives it a chance but also is very vital to the moms if they are too young or can’t afford to support a baby and themselves
And what about the alternative? Abandoning the child on the street? Leaving it in a trash? Or raising it and resenting them, or raising it and abusing them? So many grim alternative to the baby box
I know all of the saved babies are because of the Baby box! I think it is Wonderful!!!❤❤ There is No Easy Way Out! If u carry a child then take it to the B.Box...it is responsible! I love the baby box program! Love from the United States!!❤❤❤❤❤
That’s such an amazing idea! I’ve heard too much stories about abandoned newborns in trash cans, these stories even more horrifying in winter when kids are left with almost no chance to survive
There are always going to be people who abandon their babies and there will always be people who are too ashamed to give them up at police stations, fire stations, and orphanages. I think this is only beneficial as it is a safe and anonymous place to give up the baby and will encourage those who would abandon their babies in dumpsters and alleys to leave them in a safe place.
I seen the story the pastor would even try to convince the parent to keep the baby and even get help to the mother and child. This is amazing idea Im from America we have baby free drop off zones for mothers and fathers who really can’t keep their children this is an amazing idea.
But it's sad to know that those babies are going to end up orphaned I have seen kids who won't get adopted and live their life's mostly in there school. It's really heartbreaking to see them crave for having a family. And the parents will move on with their life having family in the future.
It has its pros and cons for the child and parents either way. It's just if I think in the place of that abandoned kid I feel so sad. It's destiny's choice on how it's life will end up. I just hope all those kids would be safe and secure until they get a better life too.
I think cctv cameras can be put around it or have the people who abandoned their babies fill out smt that has their information in case needed and for verification
There are thankfully! The pastor did an interview on this and said he tries to persuade the parents to come inside for a cup of tea, so they can talk about possibly raising the child (with financial aid), or leaving a phone number/name.
This is better than having a baby abandoned on the street or killed by an unfit or overwhelmed mother. We should applaud those mothers who have the self-awareness to know that they cannot provide care & it's the last selfless thing they can do for their child.
We have baby boxes here in the US as well especially in states that are strongly against abortion (such as the state where I live, Arkansas). These have been popping up in places like fire stations more often since Roe v. Wade was overturned last year.
Yeah we have something like that in lithuania. We call it "Gyvybės langelis" or in english " The window of life" and they are usually found around hospitals.
I remember watching a video of behind the scenes of the baby box and honestly, the guy running to the box to get the new baby in there was so cute. I think the baby box is a good thing
"easy way out" as opposed to what? killing it? leaving it somewhere where it'll die? being forced to keep it knowing you're not capable to raise a child, then the child getting neglected and/or abused? if someone is willing to abandon their baby, we should encourage them to do it safely like how this baby box is allowing people to.
As a pediatrician, it saves lives, it takes a lot of emotional turmoil to give up their babies. Let us be kinder to one another and support this organization
I love how most of the comments are so supportive towards that topic. Its truly a good reason - we have it as well in Germany, and it is a really good option for everyone. For the children and also for the parents, wheither its a teen mom or just a not-wanting-a-child-mom. Noone looses something i think and the children get to be in foster families who can give them all the love they need to have.
Considering the recent news in my country about multiple cases of abandoned babies in the trash can, in the bushes, and other dangerous places for a baby to be left alone, a baby box is much appreciated and very needed here. Considering that at least, those babies are gonna be taken care of instead of being just thrown away near the road of someone's house.
Baby box or no baby box unfortunately people abandon other people whether it is a baby or an adult for various reasons and that's okay, no one knows what someone is going through, but atleast with the baby box the child will be comfortable and safe, atleast the mothers can walk away thinking atleast they left them in a safe place.
In an interview with the pastor, the pastor notes that whenever they receive the notification they will try to run out and meet the individual leaving behind their baby, talk to the individual and find other ways that don't include abandonment. I don't think the intention of the box is to encourage abandonment in society in general. And the box can't be used as the sole reason why individuals don't feel supported to care for their child. The box is only a small bandaid solution to a wider systemic problem and should still be praised for saving lives. The alternative is much worse. 😢
No sane person would think giving up your child is the easy option. Even though its anonymous this must be such a horrendously hard decision for someone to make. I'm glad they came up with this, though it's sad its needed
In countries with the baby boxes the number of babies murdered right after birth or dieing slowly due to malnutrition, neglect etc are reduced bcs *drumroll* they've been put in a warm box instead of a cold grave...
I couldn’t imagine the heartache and desperation these mothers must be going through when they are that desperate to put their baby in a box and walk away. I feel so bad for them. 😢
Also not sure if this is taken into account but the mothers that leave infants in baby boxes cannot deliver in a hospital. Because by law the hospital has to record the time of birth and most don’t want their child to be on their record at all. So there were cctv footage was women bleeding, having given birth in a near by motel, by themselves and walking to the baby box. The whole ordeal is incredibly inhumane to single mothers or any women who doesn’t want a child. I hope SK will improve in the following decade but it’s unlikely. It really saddens me to accept that this is our reality.
I've heard a lot about this, and i personally think that this baby box is very much needed in this world where some parents willingly leave there children like they never had them
I've seen the documentaries (both old and new because the pastor who originally started the baby box retired and they switched the person in charge) and of course there may be many women who abondon their baby's because they don't want the responsibility...but 60% are minors and often they don't seem to have other choices because they get neither help from their parents, nor governmental support (+ can't get jobs because of biased views for being single moms). I cried a lot during the documentaries and everyone who says these mostly young mother's give their baby's away for solely selfish reasons don't know what their talking about. Korean society lacks empathy and acceptance in this (and many other) situation. Watch the documentaries if you really want to inform yourself before making assumptions. Thank you.
People that say it’s the easy way out should open their homes to these abandoned children then or to the mothers who struggle with finding a support system. Not everyone is blessed with a support system and not everyone can handle it alone
I’d prefer them to “ run away from their responsibilities” by doing this than abusing the child or neglecting it or starving it or killing it
If the mother or parents really hate the child, they'll neglect it or abuse it. Many infants to toddlers get abused and then die from being hit over and over. Putting a unwanted baby in a baby box is better than having to deal with it at home. It won't get abused and has the fairest start in life with higher chances of being fostered or adopted, as many abused kids have trauma and are too much for foster parents.
I think it is good bc some ppl can’t even afford pregnancy testers or go to the doctors. It’s pretty expensive just to get an appointment over there. So I think it should be there. But yea some ppl don’t deserve to have the option to just dumping the baby, but ig it is better environment for the children that growing in an unsafe or unstable home environment
@@gansz_lol The problem is that the baby when he grows will always be sad for two reasons
Because his parents abandoned him
And if his parents didn't abandon him, he wouldn't live a good life knowing that his parents never loved him.
@@rsecherrypeople are miserable even with having two parents. Bro will learn to cope like the rest of us just fine
It's a known fact that abandoned children fail to live longer and make past their teens. Even if they did, they will grow up neglected. There are only handful of happy stories like oh the abandoned child got adopted to a well off loving family or the parents realised their mistake and started loving their child. It happens. But it's rare. If you do not want a child, I think it's better to abort it. If it's too late, the government should provide some financial aid to parents/mom who cant bring up a child
i think this route is much more safe than abandoning the child on the street.
An orphanage could be used, but the baby box is for the parent to be anonymous
@@hazelmint6671where do you think that those babies go after?
Anonymity of that extent, benefits the prospective parents as well
I’m just sad for some of those babies some who will grow up and curious enough to wonder who their parents are and will find ways to contact them later in life. They will most likely never know who they are considering it is not in the orphanage.. That I think is one of the few disadvantages of this baby box thing but other than that the baby box is really helpful
Yes,I agree
@@hazelmint6671you do know that lots of the babies found in orphanages are left outside in the cold on steps of police stations and fire houses, right at least this way someone who can take care of the child knows they are there and the baby is kept warm in the interim
it's way better to leave your child in a baby box than to raise them in a household where they don't feel loved or don't feel like they have the right resources. it's ridiculous to discriminate against people who had kids but can't afford to raise them. people have different stories and the baby box will improve and change a child's story for the better.
What’s ridiculous is having a baby when you can’t afford to raise them. The only exception is sexual assault or grooming, otherwise whoever has a baby only to abandon them is disgusting.
@@myouniverse0613 well you never know what happened with the parents before the had to abandon their baby they might have planned the baby and had the means but then something happened and they knew the baby would be better off growing up loved and somewhere their child will grow up with proper necessities they are not just abandoning their baby in some alley way they are dropping off their baby somewhere they know they will be properly cared for no matter what their reason they are making sure their baby will be safe some people just don’t have a choice there is no one reason that it’s ok sometimes you know your baby will be better off
Its also better than leaving them in a dumpster or something
@@Remui396 They don’t “know” the baby will be better off. They assum the baby will be, but there is literally ZERO reassurance that the baby is not going to end up in an abusive family or end up never adopted at all.
@@Remui396 Have you never heard of baby farms? Do you know the statistic for abandoned children? Orphaned children? Adopted children?
The baby box has also been implemented in South Africa at one place. It’s a wonderfull resource because there are just too many cases of desperate mothers abandoning their children in horrible places ao having a better option is a miracle. If you’ve made up your mind to leave your baby then a baby box is by far the best place to put them.
We have the baby box here in America too. I think its a good thing to have these, that way there are no reports of child abuse by inexperienced parents, or parents who do not want the baby and abuse them till their adults. Theres alot of people in this world who grew with with terrible childhoods, and still living with that trauma in their adulthood and as elders
@@ms.pirate thats very true, I didn’t want to specify in the comment because its disturbing but there have been cases of babies being put in grocery bags and left in the bin
Of course we only hear of it when the baby is recused but the fact that is even an option for some people shocks me.
Run away from their responsibilities? You mean give their child a better chance at life then they can give them?
How do you know if the baby even have a chance? Yall crazy
@@arimalfoy8807 right? Like what in the fck
It’s sad that y’all defend this. There are very few situations where I can respect a decision like this.
@@melonmochiiiit's good that your personal opinion on a matter that does not involve you, doesn't hold any power then.
@@arimalfoy8807it was either unwanted or couldn't have the support it needed from its biological parents...giving it away it's a chance
People love to pay attention to things like this and complain instead of wondering just why a parent would have/want to give up their child. Cause it's easier to get mad at something like this than acknowledge the ginormous systemic problems that play into this issue.
Right, I'm not a mother, and too young to be one. But there are way to many adults living with childhood trauma from inexperienced parents, and parents who do not want children.
Edit: well to some people, I'm old enough to be a parent. But I think being 23 is still too young, so I think I should just enjoy my youth while I still have whats left of it
Well said
@@ms.pirate Them why have a baby in the first place??
@@myouniverse0613 Rape, pressure/coercion, lack of sexual education, birth control failure. Maybe for some of them their financial situations suddenly changed. You never know what kinds of situations people can find themselves in.
@@myouniverse0613 abortion was prohibited in South Korea until 2021
I wouldn't call bearing a child for 9 months and then giving birth to it an "easy way"
literally what i came to say lmao. there’s so many easier options that clearly weren’t available if this is something you benefit from
But abandoning all responsibility is
@@Chili.512you are talking about punishment. You insinuate it at least.
A child should never be or be perceived as punishment.
Yeah because killing it is easier right? 🙄
@@emeline02 you can't kill what isn't alive
if people think the parents would be irresponsible to put the baby in the box then wouldnt they be too irresponsible to keep the baby and raise it well? they would probably end up with a miserable child and/or a much worse ending unfortunately. it is so much better for the child and the parents to have a baby box than to be forced by peer pressure to raise a kid you cant afford to raise or dont want to raise
Exactly!
So true and plus, with the hopes of letting their child find better families that can raise them in a better condition
Right, we have alot of adults who didn't grew up with loving parents in this world. Adults and elders can remember the trauma they had as a child
Then why you are giving birth .Baby are not for wipe of dirt in earth.such a shitty comment .you should be that baby like baby in baby box then talk.
@@SnowWhite_..._SNOWwhite ur rlly dumb, a lot of the times these parents dont know theyre pregnant until after its too late to have an abortion or theyre forced to go thru with the pregnancy, the babies wont remember being put in the box and theyll be adopted by families that love them and theyll live a better life, some people cant abort their children because of health reasons and some of these children are products of r@pe or an accidental pregnancy that they have to go through with
If they weren’t leaving the babies in the baby box, they might abandon them somewhere unsafe
Ok, if critics say dropping off the baby at the baby box is the easy way out, why don't they take care of the child? They all should be a great fit since they're experts on responsibility. 🙄
literally all they care about is punishing women for not being their perfect little sex dolls.
you can imagine how they would raise a child...
I think it’s really good
The mothers who put their babies must care for them if they didn’t they wouldn’t go all the way to the baby box and instead would put the babies on the street or something
I don't care if it "allows them to abandon their responsibilities", when there is actually lives involved we need to stop getting mad at something that objectively saved lives because you can't get over one principle
We have a ton of them in the US and fire stations/hospitals/police stations will take a child without any questions asked.
There are so many reasons why people might do this. They could be too poor, have abusive partners, be mentally ill, or just unfit to take care of them. Better the baby goes to a real parent who has open arms instead of a bad home where it could really cause harm
Oh that's cool, never knew that, lived in the states for 10 years now. They never talk about that in the news when they should.
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@@thatasiangirl0_039 that's the thing, they dont ask questions. we also have baby boxes in poland but when a baby is there, all of the nearest police stations get crazy and look for a mother and of course it's everywhere on news, even though people dont support that publicity. it' the a law that the mother must relinquish custody, ik its stupid
I'm not questioning the mothers had their reasons, but at the same time. Leaving the baby in any of these places doesn't garentee the baby will have a good life or even a family.
@@jonghun8468 If the baby is healthy it probably will have loving parents and good home at least in some countries. In my contry people wait for newborns for a long time to adopt them. Most kids that are not being adopted are kids that are taken later in life from their abusive homes or sick ones.
Considering that they would also loop around to first double check with the mother and see if she needs help, I say it is a very good idea. You hear about how in Korea, mothers would leave the babies in the mountains or outside a church where there was no heat and sometimes no one would know they were there because the mothers were so scared and would be shamed if they tried to give up the child face to face. This way the babies are safe and the mothers are also respected without fear of shame especially when they didn’t want the pregnancy, cannot afford to have a child, are children themselves, etc.
It's compassionate to both parent and child.
Good way for protecting a child from being dumped in a trash bin and good for an adoptee who wants to avoid being in contact with the real parents of their adopted kid
They need to promote these baby boxes, it is safe but NOT an easy route. These mothers are desperate and can no longer care for their babies.
In the Czech republic, there are also baby boxes. Some people felt uneasy about it first, but it saved so many lives that now the magority is glad that they exist. Sometimes it happens that a fresh mother just panics and leaves her baby there, then realises she can handle it, and comes to pick it up again. And if not, the baby is free for adoption after a couple of days, and makes people happy who want but can't have a baby of their own.
This true for the Korean baby box as well! When the light monitor goes off inside the box, normally a volunteer will run out to chat with the parent. They’re offered financial and emotional support, sometimes ending in the parent (most cases the mother) taking their child back home, this time with a support system.
Baby boxes should not be seen as an "easy" anything. They are literally saving lives. Parents who realize they cannot take care of a baby and know that someone out there would love to care for their baby should not be punished or ridiculed. They are showing the ultimate love for their child by making the hardest decision possible. Not everyone should be a parent and it takes a lot of love for your child to recognize this fact and try to make sure the baby gets the best possible future even if it's not with the biological parent.
if they’re going to be abandoned anyway there might as well be a safer process
If someone isn’t equipped to have/raise a baby, no matter what responsibilities u give them, their not equipped to have that baby. The baby with either be neglected somewhere in a trash can or safely in that box and under care.
Easy way out?! Have they ever deliver a child?!? Easy way out is abortion, and even that is not easy! WTH!
Another thing is, there is a bell that rings when a baby is placed inside. The Pastor or whoever is present immediately runs out to see if they can get hold of the parent and counsel them to continue taking care of the child or if they would like to have some help. Some change their mind and some don't because of their dire situation.
A wonderful effort by the couple.
This!! Sometimes what the parents really needed was emotional/financial/physical support.
That would cause people to avoid the box out of guilt and recriminations.
It’s a very common thing in Germany mostly for hospitals and leaving babies that can’t provide for on a churches doorstep is an even older concept here.
I think it saves a lot of babies from more harm. Desperate parents might resort to worse than leaving their children if they are not provided a solution like that. It also saves children from growing up in an environment that doesn’t want them and/or can’t provide for them emotionally/monetarily ( not saying that the foster system is a perfect place 😢 ). In some cases the parent/ mother is a drug user or in a abusive relationship etc and they might not have a save place to raise the baby.
We have the baby box here in America too. I think its a good thing to have these, that way there are no reports of child abuse by inexperienced parents, or parents who do not want the baby and abuse them till their adults. Theres alot of people in this world who grew with with terrible childhoods, and still living with that trauma in their adulthood and as elders
Yes, I think it's beneficial to be having a baby box because the mothers of those kids wants their kids to have a good life instead of aborting it or leaving it in the streets. You can tell those mothers care and love their kids to make sure they have a good life.
Vice asia made a wonderfull video about this place and the people that started it as well as the parents it has helped
I rather have this,
I wish my mum would just leave me there than abuse me mentally and physically, or just give me to my dad
As Korea didn’t allow abortions (only in severe cases) It is/was a better option to make sure the mother won’t harm herself nor the baby.
Hoping for a positive result in the future regarding the abortion discussion happening right now in South Korea ☺️🙏
I really thought that abortion is legal in Korea, Kim Seon Ho's Gf had an abortion right??
@@bella-hi4oo it is legal
The moms who chose life for their children should be praised, perhaps they have an abusive partner, no child should have to deal with that. The baby box is definitely a far better option than neglect, abuse, abortion, or abandonment in a far worse place.
It might be them running away from their responsibilities but that's such an awesome and beautiful thing to do. If they can't take care of it, best for someone else to do so, giving them what they need to grow instead. I think it's a really good idea as it helps out the little children.
This box has literally saved 2 thousand babies that could very easily have wound up in a dumpster or worse. It happens every day in every country in the world. A lot of the world isn't kind to teenage mothers, and you have to remember they are just scared children themselves. That pastor and his wife are literal saints.
As someone adopted myself, I would have much rather been abandoned in that nice heated and comfortable box than outside of that one random building.
And that’s the reason why the Pastor built the box. He would literally find babies just dropped off in the street in front of his home.
I teach a 60+ year old Korean lady English. She was adopted after being found on the streets of South Korea when she 2-3 years old. She has disabilities but she is still a great person. She hangs around my mom every other day. I think that the baby box is a great idea.
I live in the US and just read a news article about a baby abandoned in a dumpster in my city who got hypothermia and is currently fighting for its life in the NICU at the hospital. This is a RESOURCE, NOT taking the easy way out. To even get to the point of desperation to abandon your child is such a gut wrenching heart breaking decision to begin with. If there is a safe way to do this then I am going to support that 100%
If a parent wants to take care of their child they would do it no matter what , even if they had to struggle a lot . But those who are willing to leave their child will leave them even if baby boxes did not exist . So baby boxes are way better even for parents who really can't take care of their child due to any financial problems or ect . And even for babies who would have been left alone on streets or in garbage if the baby boxes weren't a thing
It’s a better to be raised by parents that want you and love you vs not being wanted. It’s a net good. Kudos to this pastor.
Im from the u.s so that's nothing new to me because we have those here. I mean i guess the baby box is better than just leaving the child on the street but you cant just run away from responsibilities like that. I get it if their young moms/teen moms but still. At least the babies will actually get taken care of and sent to a better family
it’s safer this way. Rather than raise a baby when you yourself are still very young, not able to support yourself financially yet, and quite possibly not be able to raise a baby in a household that doesn’t make you feel loved, its for the best. Yes it’s heartbreaking to let go, but its better off to leave the baby to someone who can give what you cant
The priority is the health and safety of that baby. If a baby box means it will be rescued and given medical treatment and social services, then it can only be a good thing.
And before we criticize a woman who gives up her child, we need to ask why she felt this was her last choice and what we as a society can do better to support those who need it when they need it.
we have that in the states. People can dropped their babies at any fire station without consequences. It’s better to give them up then kill them IMO.
So this isn't entirely true. It can differ depending on where you are from in the states. Also they want the baby to be a certain age or have it dropped off in a specific time frame. They need it to be one of the birth parents & they need to make contact with them.
We have this in california. I worked in a place helping feed children and a teen became pregnant and did not want the child. She confided in me that she did not want the child. I asked if she would give some time to think. She stayed healthy, had the child but a week into it she knew she wanted school then college and felt it couldnt be done with a child. I suggested adoption, a family member and the baby box because it was anonymous. She put the baby in the dumpster. I do not know why.
Box wouldve been better.
She said she did not want the child you should have directed her to an abortion clinic, but no, you doomed that baby to a trashcan. Were you willing to pay for all that child’s needs and take care of her? If not stop encouraging people to keep a human life that that don’t want.
@@rebeccagarrett7111 Nasty attitude. So let me help you out Karen. Evjdently you think she was early in her pregnancy...she wasn't as far as I could see when she spoke to me. I could clearly see her belly. I also don't and didn't know anything about her, her life or family. I was working for a non profit feeding low income children not a coucelor. I doomed? Omg..why Karen?She put the baby there. Why she said that to me I will never know AND it was not my place to suggest her kill her child when she had to be in her final trimester or close to it AND not my place to suggest anything more than I did because I did not know her and I have no idea why she said that to me. What I could do was make sure her nutrition was the best I could provide at my job so I did. A random chld told me she was in the hospital to give birth a couple weeks or so after she said that to me. After work I went to see her I also hoped a parent was there. Her mom was an addict and I never could get to her to let her know what she said. The girl looked so sad. Her mom was not there. The things I suggested were all there was left that I knew of. I doomed? Really Karen? She put the child there and I have no idea why she did not or if she did say anything to the social worker at the hospital, use the box or seek adoption services. I JUST HAVE NO IDEA! Willing to pay? I have 3 children of my own and wasnt seeking a 4th AND the girl is not my daughter, I was NEVER able to tell her mother and I tried..hard. Her dad wasnt in the home I dont think and the one sister I found was younger and not a lot of help. The post is about the baby box which I agree with its use. Being pretty much a stranger to her and having her say this was a trip but bite me Karen I was not responsible her mother/family was. What I was responsible for was reporting her mom to CPS for having a pregnant teen and allowing her 2 sons to show up to eat completely filthy and one of them came in a pee filled diaper so I bought diapers and changed him then fed him.
Now why dont you stop Karen? Feel free to check yourself then ask me anything you like but do not speak to me in that manner please. This was a horrible amd shocking situation and also an example of why baby boxes are needed. We need this choice.
Also I seems like you think I am a pro-lifer. I am not. Had I not had pregnancy choices I would be dead. Maybe take this Karen attitude over to facebook, get in one of those groups that argue about abortions and Karen-out over there.
I visited a place in Korea. They also have rooms to drop off the babies so they can feel safer leaving their baby in a spacious place than a box. Sometimes the pastor tries to talk to the parents and offer them assistance in case that’s what they need instead
Not everyone wants a child, it's better this way then to leave those children with parents that don't want them or are unprepared mentally/financially/physically. Though, I have to say, they also need to take accountability for their actions regardless. It depends on their reason(s) on why they abandon their "unwanted" child so I can't really say much about it. Not all of them have the same reasons or circumstances
As long as the baby's safe, it doesnt matter
Keeping babies in a horrible place is more irresponsible than leaving them in a baby box
I remember this story. The man started this after finding many babies were already being dumped/abandoned along near his street. People were already doing it beforehand. People who give up their child are either very desparate or not fit to be parents. No matter how you look at it the baby box is in the best interest for the babies, it's better than being raised by someone who couldnt afford the children or even from those parents who dont want children.
I think it's wonderful. For whatever reasons this child is safe and safety and child comes first
Id prefer the baby box over abandoning the child in a rubbish bin.
"Abandoning Babies" is definately better than abusing, neglecting, and traumatizing kids giving them a bad childhood
I heard about this a couple years ago. I think it’s an incredible idea. He’s saved so many lives.
Absolutely needed. Not everyone can handle being a parent and not everyone can have their own kids. This is good for everyone involved.
We have these baby boxes in the United States. Mostly at hospitals and fire stations
We have the same thing in Germany and I think it’s a great thing. We had some cases of women in really bad and abusive situations who had their babies in secrete, oftentimes not even in the hospital, and just left their newborns to die. The baby box is a way better alternative
I've literally read a comic about babyboxs a week ago for a school project ("Babybox", by "Jung")
In Europe there are a lot of these.
Every town in every country needs one to be honest the amount of babies that are mistreated, malnutritioned even abused or blamed and hated is sad. Let’s just hope they feel loved and grow up well
i think it’s a good idea, it saves the child and gives it a chance but also is very vital to the moms if they are too young or can’t afford to support a baby and themselves
Rather “run away from their responsibilities” than treating the child a life time of abuse…
And what about the alternative? Abandoning the child on the street? Leaving it in a trash? Or raising it and resenting them, or raising it and abusing them? So many grim alternative to the baby box
I know all of the saved babies are because of the Baby box! I think it is Wonderful!!!❤❤ There is No Easy Way Out! If u carry a child then take it to the B.Box...it is responsible! I love the baby box program! Love from the United States!!❤❤❤❤❤
in poland it's called window of life, and working perfectly fine
I watched one video about baby box yesterday and i cried like shit ,i feel so bad for the babies 😢
We have this in germany too! Alot of them but sadly some parents don't use them and abuse the unwanted child... not that common but still happens
We have this too in the Netherlands.
That’s such an amazing idea! I’ve heard too much stories about abandoned newborns in trash cans, these stories even more horrifying in winter when kids are left with almost no chance to survive
There are always going to be people who abandon their babies and there will always be people who are too ashamed to give them up at police stations, fire stations, and orphanages. I think this is only beneficial as it is a safe and anonymous place to give up the baby and will encourage those who would abandon their babies in dumpsters and alleys to leave them in a safe place.
I seen the story the pastor would even try to convince the parent to keep the baby and even get help to the mother and child. This is amazing idea Im from America we have baby free drop off zones for mothers and fathers who really can’t keep their children this is an amazing idea.
The state that I live in has these drop off boxes at fire houses since they always have 3 or more members there overnight
i’m adopted and i love the idea of the babies getting a second chance, way better than the child being abused, neglected or dropped in the street.
But it's sad to know that those babies are going to end up orphaned I have seen kids who won't get adopted and live their life's mostly in there school. It's really heartbreaking to see them crave for having a family. And the parents will move on with their life having family in the future.
It has its pros and cons for the child and parents either way. It's just if I think in the place of that abandoned kid I feel so sad. It's destiny's choice on how it's life will end up. I just hope all those kids would be safe and secure until they get a better life too.
I think cctv cameras can be put around it or have the people who abandoned their babies fill out smt that has their information in case needed and for verification
There are thankfully! The pastor did an interview on this and said he tries to persuade the parents to come inside for a cup of tea, so they can talk about possibly raising the child (with financial aid), or leaving a phone number/name.
This is better than having a baby abandoned on the street or killed by an unfit or overwhelmed mother. We should applaud those mothers who have the self-awareness to know that they cannot provide care & it's the last selfless thing they can do for their child.
We have baby boxes here in the US as well especially in states that are strongly against abortion (such as the state where I live, Arkansas). These have been popping up in places like fire stations more often since Roe v. Wade was overturned last year.
We have those in the Czech rep too. I am all for it.
„Easy way out„ what?! Like yeah leaving your Child behind is the easiest thing on earth
Yeah we have something like that in lithuania. We call it "Gyvybės langelis" or in english " The window of life" and they are usually found around hospitals.
I remember watching a video of behind the scenes of the baby box and honestly, the guy running to the box to get the new baby in there was so cute. I think the baby box is a good thing
As a mother, trust me 99% of those people had no choice and that box saved lives ❤
Bro istg I was watching the Nas Daily baby box video and this comes up...
"easy way out" as opposed to what? killing it? leaving it somewhere where it'll die? being forced to keep it knowing you're not capable to raise a child, then the child getting neglected and/or abused? if someone is willing to abandon their baby, we should encourage them to do it safely like how this baby box is allowing people to.
Pastor Lee does FAR MORE than that with those boxes. Ppl REALLY need to look into his story & why what he does is so desperatly important right now. 😊
As a pediatrician, it saves lives, it takes a lot of emotional turmoil to give up their babies. Let us be kinder to one another and support this organization
in the states this is more or less kind of a thing but at firestations instead of churches
I love how most of the comments are so supportive towards that topic.
Its truly a good reason - we have it as well in Germany, and it is a really good option for everyone. For the children and also for the parents, wheither its a teen mom or just a not-wanting-a-child-mom. Noone looses something i think and the children get to be in foster families who can give them all the love they need to have.
Considering the recent news in my country about multiple cases of abandoned babies in the trash can, in the bushes, and other dangerous places for a baby to be left alone, a baby box is much appreciated and very needed here. Considering that at least, those babies are gonna be taken care of instead of being just thrown away near the road of someone's house.
Imagine, instead of shaming they could actually help the overwhelmed Mom's x). What a thought.
Baby box or no baby box unfortunately people abandon other people whether it is a baby or an adult for various reasons and that's okay, no one knows what someone is going through, but atleast with the baby box the child will be comfortable and safe, atleast the mothers can walk away thinking atleast they left them in a safe place.
In an interview with the pastor, the pastor notes that whenever they receive the notification they will try to run out and meet the individual leaving behind their baby, talk to the individual and find other ways that don't include abandonment. I don't think the intention of the box is to encourage abandonment in society in general. And the box can't be used as the sole reason why individuals don't feel supported to care for their child. The box is only a small bandaid solution to a wider systemic problem and should still be praised for saving lives. The alternative is much worse. 😢
Some fire stations in the US have this too
No sane person would think giving up your child is the easy option. Even though its anonymous this must be such a horrendously hard decision for someone to make. I'm glad they came up with this, though it's sad its needed
In countries with the baby boxes the number of babies murdered right after birth or dieing slowly due to malnutrition, neglect etc are reduced bcs *drumroll* they've been put in a warm box instead of a cold grave...
I couldn’t imagine the heartache and desperation these mothers must be going through when they are that desperate to put their baby in a box and walk away. I feel so bad for them. 😢
Also not sure if this is taken into account but the mothers that leave infants in baby boxes cannot deliver in a hospital. Because by law the hospital has to record the time of birth and most don’t want their child to be on their record at all. So there were cctv footage was women bleeding, having given birth in a near by motel, by themselves and walking to the baby box. The whole ordeal is incredibly inhumane to single mothers or any women who doesn’t want a child. I hope SK will improve in the following decade but it’s unlikely. It really saddens me to accept that this is our reality.
I actually really love this idea. Its way better than leaving the baby somewhere random if you can't take care of it
I've heard a lot about this, and i personally think that this baby box is very much needed in this world where some parents willingly leave there children like they never had them
The baby box sounds like a blessing to me. ❤
I've seen the documentaries (both old and new because the pastor who originally started the baby box retired and they switched the person in charge) and of course there may be many women who abondon their baby's because they don't want the responsibility...but 60% are minors and often they don't seem to have other choices because they get neither help from their parents, nor governmental support (+ can't get jobs because of biased views for being single moms). I cried a lot during the documentaries and everyone who says these mostly young mother's give their baby's away for solely selfish reasons don't know what their talking about. Korean society lacks empathy and acceptance in this (and many other) situation. Watch the documentaries if you really want to inform yourself before making assumptions.
Thank you.
there are a few videos on this box, and they try to communicate with the parent, provide help and support
People that say it’s the easy way out should open their homes to these abandoned children then or to the mothers who struggle with finding a support system. Not everyone is blessed with a support system and not everyone can handle it alone