This is good stuff. I like to see folks manage for all of creation and it’s creatures…not just whitetails. Cheap easy way to maybe cut off some of those inside corners before the bigger plots.
This is what I'm starting to do with an old pasture. As I rotate small annual food plots through it, I'm letting whatever comes up naturally happen, other than throwing a few clover and wildflower seeds here and there. I'll hit it with Clethodim if too much grass comes back.
Dr Lashley, you are in a field EXACTLY like the one I created this year in Mid Georgia. Took a field of sweet gum, serecia, and scattered woody understory to a field of PURE ragweed over 3 acres with the rest of the 10 acres about 40% ragweed. The rest is mainly golden rod, blackberry and a few surviving sweet gums. Spot sprayed the serecia and some smaller sweetgums with triclopyr late last summer, ran a hot fire through late March just after green up, and sat back to watch. I did not disc and had a GREAT response! Moving forward, what sort of burn timing would you suggest to maintain this? I am hesitant to disc because of serecia, but I can if need be.
I am converting 7 acres of perennial pasture to deer and turkey use. I have put in several different small food plors and creating a fethered edge. I also burned all the grass this feb as it had never been done and the thatch was incredibly thick. How many applications and timing of glyp do I need in order to kill the grass and allow the forbs to dominate?
Great work we love to hear it! As far as the glyphosate applications and timing go its very site specific, so we couldn't say with certainty. If you are trying to manage the area for a more herbaceous component we would say burning on a 2-3 year interval would maintain that. Spot spraying unwanted species as they appear after fire.
Typically that time frame you are going to see more grasses. Disturbing during the fall or dormant season you will typically see more herbaceous plants and forbs.
Are you talking about just scratching the surface with the disc with one or two light passes, or discing everything down like you are preparing a seed bed for a new crop, but just letting nature take over after thoroughly discing?
I've got about 10 acres of grasses - broomsedge, blue stem. If I just run a disc through it will I get something like that or will I get more grass? I've burned it in the past and the grass seemed to love it.
Yes with the discing disturbance to the soil you should get an annual forb response. Whereas burning during that late winter early fall time frame will promote more of the perennial grasses like you mentioned.
I see your point about turkey habitat for young poults. But to me, this field is essentially worthless when it comes to influencing deer movement, providing deer food, or providing any sort of cover for whitetails from October through May. It is cool that all this summer forage can be created...but until I see does and bucks piled in a field of ragweed in July...I remain skeptical.
It's all based on your goals and objectives for your property. This is just a great example of what can be created in a very inexpensive way. Brood rearing cover for turkeys and quail, fawning cover for whitetails and 2000 lbs per acre of 25% crude protein forage during the crucial time of lactation for does and antler growth for bucks. Sure, you won't be sitting over a field like this with a bow come November. But, we try to think about the bigger picture for multiple species of wildlife at all times of the year.
So , how about showing the disking process and cut back on the rambling talk talk . You could of slayed in your front yard and waved your hands around.
This is good stuff. I like to see folks manage for all of creation and it’s creatures…not just whitetails. Cheap easy way to maybe cut off some of those inside corners before the bigger plots.
No doubt!
Great video.. thx
Glad you liked it!
This is what I'm starting to do with an old pasture. As I rotate small annual food plots through it, I'm letting whatever comes up naturally happen, other than throwing a few clover and wildflower seeds here and there. I'll hit it with Clethodim if too much grass comes back.
Very cool! We love to hear that!
No till guys must be losing their minds
Love the Habitat work here!
Lol, thanks!
Dr Lashley, you are in a field EXACTLY like the one I created this year in Mid Georgia. Took a field of sweet gum, serecia, and scattered woody understory to a field of PURE ragweed over 3 acres with the rest of the 10 acres about 40% ragweed. The rest is mainly golden rod, blackberry and a few surviving sweet gums. Spot sprayed the serecia and some smaller sweetgums with triclopyr late last summer, ran a hot fire through late March just after green up, and sat back to watch. I did not disc and had a GREAT response! Moving forward, what sort of burn timing would you suggest to maintain this? I am hesitant to disc because of serecia, but I can if need be.
Probably dormant season burn to maintain what you have. February/March/April time frame.
I am converting 7 acres of perennial pasture to deer and turkey use. I have put in several different small food plors and creating a fethered edge. I also burned all the grass this feb as it had never been done and the thatch was incredibly thick. How many applications and timing of glyp do I need in order to kill the grass and allow the forbs to dominate?
Great work we love to hear it! As far as the glyphosate applications and timing go its very site specific, so we couldn't say with certainty. If you are trying to manage the area for a more herbaceous component we would say burning on a 2-3 year interval would maintain that. Spot spraying unwanted species as they appear after fire.
You mention fall and winter disking. What would be the plant response from an early spring or late summer disturbance? 0:30
Typically that time frame you are going to see more grasses. Disturbing during the fall or dormant season you will typically see more herbaceous plants and forbs.
Are you talking about just scratching the surface with the disc with one or two light passes, or discing everything down like you are preparing a seed bed for a new crop, but just letting nature take over after thoroughly discing?
Thoroughly discing the site.
I've got about 10 acres of grasses - broomsedge, blue stem.
If I just run a disc through it will I get something like that or will I get more grass?
I've burned it in the past and the grass seemed to love it.
Yes with the discing disturbance to the soil you should get an annual forb response. Whereas burning during that late winter early fall time frame will promote more of the perennial grasses like you mentioned.
Thanks. I’ll give it a try.
@@marchhair01 Good deal! Best of luck!
I see your point about turkey habitat for young poults. But to me, this field is essentially worthless when it comes to influencing deer movement, providing deer food, or providing any sort of cover for whitetails from October through May. It is cool that all this summer forage can be created...but until I see does and bucks piled in a field of ragweed in July...I remain skeptical.
It's all based on your goals and objectives for your property. This is just a great example of what can be created in a very inexpensive way. Brood rearing cover for turkeys and quail, fawning cover for whitetails and 2000 lbs per acre of 25% crude protein forage during the crucial time of lactation for does and antler growth for bucks. Sure, you won't be sitting over a field like this with a bow come November. But, we try to think about the bigger picture for multiple species of wildlife at all times of the year.
Will all of that vegetation die in the winter or will it provide deer forage in the winter as well?
Not so much forage value in the winter. But the structure will still be there.
So , how about showing the disking process and cut back on the rambling talk talk . You could of slayed in your front yard and waved your hands around.
Only discing is good. Using cancer causing poisons to kill weeds is not good.
Dr grant woods isn’t gonna be happy about this
How come?
Because he can’t sell or get sponsors for ragweed?