Engine Failure on Mountain Top Takeoff
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- First outting since being grounded for 2 months. Felt good! Jake's engine gave us a bit of a scare but still made for a fun adventure.
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That thing scared the crap out of me.
-Let's give it another try.
Stan Lem also, try say a C150, the CARB HEAT CABLE, did NOT RESPOND, keep pulling, THEN it works,,OVER WATER ( Hudson River) , the fastener for the OUTER CABLE fell off !, I nearly needed a change of underwear, but I also learned to LEAN IT OUT UNTIL IT NEAR BACKFIRES that will clear thrice, in carb.
Wishful thinking...good way to get killed. Yahoos.
Long lakm
Great to have such good friends that rally for each other. The aviation community is like no other! Thanks for bringing that home to us Trent!
No problem, we will just rebuild the engine in a cow pasture on a hill out in the middle of nowhere! !! !!!
U R lucky to be part of such a tight knit community.
when im reincarnated i wnna be a cow and munch planes!
"Rebuild?" They are changing spark plugs - something I could do in my sleep. That ain't no rebuild. If he is going to take chances on a hillside like that, I want my engine FLAWLESS. Hand starting the prop on uneven ground? Sheesh! These guys take chances - to each his own. I hope they stay safe.
@@shrapnel77 It wasn't just a spark plug. I think they replaced the complete cylinder.
But I agree on you with hand starting the engine.
Having no electric start simplifies things. Simple means less things that can break.
@@thehabman I'm aware of that, but we also lost a clubmember after handstarting a plane some years ago. Nothing you want to see, that's for sure!
That’s just public road repair service. One guy getting the job done and 7 guys around, giving their enlightened opinion....Tipical!!!!!!!
And a Great Video ! thanks for those beautiful images !
I lost my rotax engine over a lake once. Luckily it was in a seadoo! Great video, thanks!
The best part of being in a good group is they will ALWAYS wait behind and help fix the issues that arise!
Oh and as a side note, I subscribed to you and not that other guy because you seem more like a real person and all he cares about it views.
The Permagrin on your face says it all. Glad you are in the air again, and I add my thanks is for not leaving the wounded plane as a cliffhanger.
I'm not a big flight nerd, I don't play flight sims, I do like the tech behind a lot of the nav systems and such but for some reason Trent's videos are some of my favorite of any content creator. I find myself going back and watching old videos still as I am now they are so good. You are just such a bright personality on camera and seem genuinely kind. If you are the kind of person you seem like on camera, you deserve all the good things that have happened to you. Thanks for the content.
Loving the content Trent! Keep the quality coming. Such an inspiration dude.
Trent, I've flown most Airbuses (currently operate the A-380) and have been an airline pilot for the last 12+ years.
I'm working hard at setting up secondary sources of income so that I can finally pull the plug on flying for a living and go back to flying for fun!
It was one hell of a rewarding career, I was paid to see the world, but the stress, increased productivity with no end in sight and lack of sleep that accumulates from the job is killing me.
Awesome videos, glad to see you back up in the air!
Those rear seat gimbal shots. Mmmmmmmmmmm.
I just wanted to comment this, you beat me to it!
So cool ...
Yes more like this super cool
Nice shots yes! Lots of angles covered too! Fly up to Alaska! GwinsLodge.com Alaskan Cabin Rentals online, Kenai Peninsula, Cooper Landing AK
Yeah they're so nice! Do you know how he got those shots? Which device is it?
Trent, thank you for putting out this video. If you are ever in the southern Ontario region, I owe you a beer.
Because of this video, my student did not experience complete power loss while up in the air today.
(TL;DR below)
I received a call from a student of mine today who was flying on his personal C172. He was complaining of "severe" engine vibration in flight, but said that it went away after he applied carb heat. He decided to come around and land as soon as possible anyway to check it out. I told him about the effects of carb icing and how it can be a hazard to flying. He then told me that he had some engine roughness on the right mag when he did his runup. Fine, that's probably spark plug fowling. I told him to do a runup and try to clear the fowling with the procedure in the POH, but if it didn't work, it could be something as serious as a cracked cylinder head (this video was popping into my head).
He calls me back an hour later to let me know that it didn't clear, so he grabbed an AME. During a boroscope of the cylinder, they found a crack.
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tl;dr:
This video put the idea and symptoms of a cracked cylinder in my head and when my student called with those symptoms, he got an AME instead of a takeoff clearance and lived to fly another day.
30 seconds into the video and I think I found a new favorite channel
It would have been mine too if not for the shitty music.
thats great to see all pilots calm helping out
Ugh. Every pilot has nightmares about this. And it couldn’t happen to a better man. Love ya Jake!
Glad to know Jake is back in the air and it wasnt anything more serious than a jug . I lost a number 1 jug on my 1958 Cessna 172 , same thing a broken valve guide , scary ride but made it to my home airport safe and sound . that was quite a few years ago .
Cool that you threw in the followup shots in the end.
@John Myers Exactly! I didn't think he was going to tell us for a few seconds there and was getting all ready to yell at my monitor, " COME ON, WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM!?!?!? Then he told us thankfully. I would have liked more details since I've never encountered a broken valve guide in any engine before, it was meant to be about the flying and having fun though I guess. And man, with that countryside and those big fat cushy tyres wouldn't that be an awesome way to spend a day with a few friends, awesome.
I lOVE you Americans, you are so handy and practical not to mention helpful and tight with one another. Thanks for the great video 👍 God BLESS all of you aviators and mechanics. I learned how to fly in your country.
Thanks for extending the video to show us what the problem was. Wow! Never heard of a valve guide breaking.
what is shown on the footage is a valve lacking its spring collet keepers (the 2 halves that keep it within the collet thanks to spring pressure) - is that linked to a valve guide issue? that would be interesting to know. Usually the problems with valve guides is they are worn out and let oil pass by, they are too tight (improper reaming tolerances) and get the valve seized or stuck, or they move (when poorly installed, e.g. wrong press fit tolerances)... A moving guide may lead to valve moving, seating poorly, then things starting to break things within the combustion chamber like plugs after getting off its spring somehow, but I don't picture clearly how the initial issue would be the valve guide breaking.
Good to see you back in the air! I'm sorry Jake had a jug problem, but I'm glad it happened where he was, with all of you, and that he could get the help he needed. Glad to see him back in the air!
Thanks for sharing this with us.
I had to pause at 13:00 and just tell you how great your videos are. Where is this beautiful countryside. You have inspired me to take basic lessons. I have an appointment in Hartford to discuss courses. Thank you 🙂🛫🛬
Red Bluff, CA! And thanks!!! Glad to hear you are going to start training for your license!
Congrats! You'll LOVE flying!
It’s awesome to have a family of pilots and helpers like this group. Great video,none pilots like my self appreciate the camaraderie as well as the freaking great fun GA is and the great fun you all have .
Keep being safe and continue-to have the time of your life .
Love your stabilized camera in the back, gives a better perspective of the bank angles. Sorry Jake had some problems. I knew when the electrode was hammered that was going to need a cylinder. A new definition of "field repair". My dad parked his J-3 in a cow pasture one night and came back with most of the fabric missing. Cows like the taste of the butyrate dope used to shrink the fabric.
You learn something new everyday :)
Duct tape...
Fixes everything
We had the same problem with tractors, the cows would eat the spark plug wires if left in the field together.
A Fordson tractor, now you know how old I am.
But I'm still flying.
velocity550
Worked at a dairy farm for some time, cows also are just very inquisitive. They will rub on things, mouth things, you name it.
@velocity550
Cows like the taste of dope? Geeze, I used to build balsa/tissue model airplanes in the '70's using that stuff, I hate the smell of it, no way I'd eat it. But then, I'm not a cow either.
Interesting. I thought only goats ate things they weren't supposed to. Thanks for the education.
So good to be watching your vids again. You set the standard for air-to-air photography and camera work in general. Many thanks!
I've worked on ground-based engines almost my whole life, and have never seen a plug electrode get smashed closed on anything that didn't lose a con-rod, or grenade internally. Not familiar at all with how that aircraft engine is laid out, but the valve, due to the bad guide, must've had enough slop in it to move over and smack the plug! INTERESTING! I'll always remember this one. 😎
Not to mention, AMAZING videography of the flight! I know I'd have been overjoyed to be back at it, after all those weeks grounded. Thanks for another great one! 👍👍
Break the outside spring on a valve at full RPM and it will knock a valve in so far it's clipped by the top of the piston, bending it over against the plug.
@@JimForeman - I could see that happening, Jim - thanks for the insight.
Hmmm I'da like to seen the top of that piston. That engine was getting ready to frag grenade with a bit more running.
Seen a valve drop in and bye bye engine. Valve had turned 180 and was growing out of the top of the piston like a mushroom.
@@ColinWatters - HA! I've seen that before in a race bike. Also saw piston ring lands smashed flat from too much boost - that was something! Looked like someone put the piston in a 20-ton press, and hung on the jack handle. :)
I'm a big fan of 2-strokes. I ride a '74 RD350 I restored 9 years ago. Love that bike. Still running dual points with the OE carburetors. It's as reliable as a stone ax, and is as simple as it gets to maintain. 👍
That's some tiger country on the return, beautiful valley's and some sweet hilltop out fields there to play in, I am also thankful for the inclusion of the bad valve and repair at the end, glad everyone got home safe and sound (even if it was 3 days layter for the super cub. NVFR PPL YSCH Australia..
Love being able to watch trent's vids when I'm feeling to ill to fly myself.
You guys are having WAY to much fun! Thanks.
Another good one. Thanks Trent!
First time viewer. Just came upon the channel. Not a flier but I sure have been a life long fan of the ability to be airborne. Great to see you buddys all helping out. Kind like any good sport or enthusiast endeavor.
Welcome to the channel Doug!
What an awesome community you have
What a fabulous 'go anywhere' aircraft, and a great bunch of guys to be flying with.
Jeez! Had to replace a cylinder in the field? That's brutal. You documented the process well, my friend! Great video!
Dem some big ole tires on that plane. One of the things I love about flying, pilots, they all are helping, and all are learning.
Stoked your back in the air. It's high time we played in the sky together.
I wanna know how to get the super early access. Mr five days ago.
How do you comment on a two hour old video five days before it was uploaded?
Yes to that Scott!
@@BikingVikingHH Some people live in the past. Scott lives in the future.
Kenny Phillips it all about who you know ;)
The whole logistics to protect and recover the plane was just impressive
Man, I wanna fly with you guys! This is what experimental/general aviation is about. The love of flying!
When Murphy's Law strikes ... great to be flying with friends.
Another highly polished vid that puts the rest of us to shame. Love the terrain map showing solid red during your ravine run!
Nothing like having good friends, and good friends are friends that know stuff! *lol*
Never knew about this kind of flying. Thanks for opening a new world to me. Danny G
Watching that dude start the plane by hand is giving me some fierce anxiety
Why? it is the only way we use to start airplanes. Easy to do.
@@camarogs1 easy as long as you don't get complacent. It works but you gotta be careful with your technique. People have lost limbs and sometimes gotten killed. But if you do it right, it's not too dangerous.
@@JoshuaSobel I agree, don't get complacent but that is true with every aspect of aviation. I was an instructor for over 45 years and feel anyone that gets complacent should not be flying or at least re evaluate.
What is great is that you have a group of guys that will drop everything to come and help out in a breakdown. At least the weather didn't go bad.
10:40 Thats funny, I did a lot of bush flying in Africa and had to put thorn bushes around the aircraft to stop the hyenas from chewing on the tires :-)
you can't blame them, these tires are damn delicious
Great video Trent! Great to see you enjoying being back in your bird. Just so you know, cows will rub on an airplane out in a pasture like that if allowed to. Horses will chew on a fabric airplane but cows just rub on them. Don’t ask me how I know!😉
This opened my eyes about what america is all about. Crazy. Keep that country going!
Freedom with limited government control.
If you are a sheep brainwashed by government propaganda then yes... It's paradise over there.
Man, the difference a week can make. I was cautiously optimistic last week.
@@realbento Sounds like you got caught trying to sneak in over the southern border
@@BrettMcNary relax I have this habit to avoid shitholes like the big Walmart that pretends to be a country
Hi Trent. I am enjoying your videos. I bring my Skybolt to Red Bluff every now and then. My boy's and I are putting a Bushmaster together. It's fun that you are doing all of this in our backyard. Cheers.
Woah just stumbled across your channel and all I have to say is keep living my dream life!
My god, flying through those hills... I'm so jealous.
I've never been in a small plane, and only experience piloting on a computer, even then I love the sensation.
What a life! I'm betting these planes are cheaper than BMW nowadays
I guess that depends on the BMW. Super Cubs are not cheap. Old stock Cubs are cheap though.
Nice to have these planes. I can't even find anywhere to get off road in my 4x4 and you are hopping from hillside to hillside landing all over!
Awesome Video as usual! for the record Cows don't naw on planes but they do find them overly attractive scratching post and are very good at destroying control surfaces
Yes, cows will gnaw on airplanes. I've had them chew on the left wing while I was chasing them away from the right wing, and vice versa.
I'm studying to become an aviation engineer for the Greek air Force and your videos are just so inspiring, I really want to build my own bush plane.
The warranty on that rebuild must be good ., "funny" , we never heard any complaints!
I think you are the most underrated RUclipsr! Seriously I freaking love your videos. I don’t understand why other airplane flyers like you don’t make videos as well. It’s so interesting and the footage you get is amazing. Seriously please don’t stop making videos and don’t listen to the negative comments. They don’t deserve your time. I subscribed to your channel right when I saw the first video from you. Amazing work!!!!!
Glad to see you back and looking forward to Reno. In the meantime I’ll fly my bush plane the Timber😂
You got to love mechanics that make house calls. Thumbs up for a great adventure and a safe landing. 9.2k
What a great group of guys, doing what they love , flying by the seat of their pants. Very talented!
It looks like a nice plane to have, such a shame they break so easily, must be expensive as hell ...
Probably one of those things, pay a lot of money for a new engine now or pay a lot of money to have a used one rebuilt later...
Great vlog awesome to see you flying again! I am super jealous of you guys having so much fun in your kit Fox and cubs. Someday I’ll be flying my own Kit Fox.
I love the shots when turning! Sweet gimbal action?
So glad you're back in the air Trent!
That's more fun than anyone's allowed to have!
I see a hybrid gasoline / electric engine in the future with a geared reduction drive and a clutch ( which is in use today on rotax ) with the electric assist motor on the propeller side of the equation ( in order to decouple the failed gas engine instantly ) ..... This has nothing to do with fuel economy or the environment .... what it has to do with is the astounding takeoff power of the gas / electric motor combined and the dual engine redundancy for a period long enough to find a place to land ...... The lithium batteries would not be large and heavy ... just enough to give massive power boost on takeoff and about 10 minutes run time in the event of gasoline engine failure ...... This is the future .... Not because its remotely environmental .... but because of astounding takeoff performance and an increase in safety by a factor of 10,000 times for more ...... far safer than asymmetrical thrust issues of twins that require lightning fast thinking on takeoff engine failure ... not as safe as twins over vast stretches of open water or badlands ... but ...... 10 minutes to ditch is worlds better than 10 seconds to ditch.... and twins are not found on small bush planes anyway .... This would be ideal for bush planes ... especially the near vertical climb out capability this setup would most certainly achieve
Thats pretty brilliant actually. Ive thought about electric planes existing one day but not hybrids. The peace of mind of having a switch that would keep your prop turning for another ten minutes.
@AlaskaLive Or ...there may not be a better energy density battery ever discovered ... it may never exist at a price point that can be used ..The system I described will work today at this hour ... give 10 times the range of battery and thousand multiples of safety the instant its implemented ... at a price point that is easily afforded ... all the equipment is off the shelf as we speak .. just needs someone to do it..... and don't forget ...todays best batteries from Tesla are nigh on to useless in the north in the winter and anywhere at altitude without being kept warm ... Tesla cars do not do well in the arctic ... batteries may never be the long distance long duration answer ..... my solution will by no means be stop gap transition ... It will be a permanent one
@73Corbin My favorite plane is the Cri Cri and several have already been built totally electric. Just short duration of flight time.
@@markdoan1472 Your not the first to think of making a Hybrid Airplane. The reason no one has is 2 fold weight and cost. Not to mention your introducing a whole new system to possible fail, KISS.
@@luchacefox259 I know Im not first ... but .. the KISS principle of single engine has killed tens of thousands of single engine pilots since aviation began .. engine quits your goin down now ... If you did the math having an electric motor on the front side of engine decoupeling clutch in a hybrid system will functionaly increase safety redundancy by a factor of at least ten thousand ... either system can fail and burn up and you can still have several minutes to configure to land where you want ..... a monstrously huge safety advantage ... todays modern airliners are unbelievably complicated and unbelievably safe
Oh yeah, as a glider pilot, you learn quickly that cows are murder on airplanes :). If you put down in a meadow with cows in it, you'll have to defend the plane until help arrives.
Not just cows, see You Can't Rollerskate In A Buffalo Herd in the Flying tab in my website www.jimforeman.com
Hey Trent!
Just wanted to let you know that I love watching your videos. I wish I had the time & money & friends to go and fly together like you do. Sadly though all of those things are in short supply around here. Slowly building time towards my commercial rating and trying to pick my tailwheel endorsement up along the way. The little Citabria that I fly is loads of fun. Again, thanks for the videos and who knows maybe one day I can meet you in the skies out west.
Regards,
Andrew
That was FUN!! to watch. amazing restraint was demonstrated by leaving the airplane in the bush. I would have been so tempted to nurse it home.
The old inexpensive “ArmStrong starter”; Oops did I just date myself?
So what would it cost to get am electric starter for that plane?
Also what are the ongoing cost to own a plane? Once a plane is paid for what are the ongoing cost such as hanger rental , annual inspections and that type of thing.
Awesome to have people to fly out there and fix it. Bring on the Graco
So nice to see someone "top off" their tanks! Happens more often than not. LOL
that leveling camera behind you in the cockpit is AWESOME!!
6:18 what you came for...
Alaska is a shithole
Thank you
I see you everywhere (mostly in golf related videos)
Awesome to see that Jake is safe and got the plane fixed, thanks for the video!
Glad it wasnt you Trent. Looking forward to more of your content. Thankyou for the followup, any notion why the valve guide failed? Or did that engine have one of the valves you were grounded for?
They are different engines.
Adventure adventure adventure adventure adventure adventure, love it.
Trent, living my dream! 200 hour tailwheel endorsed PPL here... one day I'll work my way into the back country.
It's so great that you all have such a great support system. Glad you're back in the air.
Have you ever had a land owner approach you about landing on their property? Do y’all talk to the land owners prior to finding new landing / hangout spots?
Paul Irvine
I’m not keen on property management, didn’t even think about that. Thanks 👍🏻
Watch previous videos. The topic has been covered many times - including a video in which an angry land owner sends the Sheriff out.
(Spoiler alert: They did make a mistake, but it worked out for the better.)
Dad burn barn stormers maw get my musket I ain't lett'n another wife fly away
What incredibly liberating flying! You are a lucky guy to be in a part of the world with geography like that.
Love those little bush planes the distance they take off and land in are awesome.
Great video. I did my long cross country back in 2001 in a C172. I stopped at Red Bluff KRBL, wiped the oil off my wind screen and filled up too. Subscribed! Thanks.
I thought I had seen you out near red bluff before....
Great to see you back in your aircraft Trent! I was surprised to see the spark plug only had the one electrode, I thought aircraft used plugs with triple electrodes. Three times the safety! I realise that this wasn't the cause of the engine problem though, more of an observation. Great shots from the gyro gimble cam by the way! Very professional.
MicKMuzZ MKMZ Yes the Lycoming engines use mags and 3 electrode plugs. Some have been converted to electronic ignition and use automotive type plugs and wires on experimental aircraft. The systems have advance for better fuel efficiency and the plugs are $5 instead of $20. I think a piece of the valve guide got into the cylinder and frizzed the electrode here.
I’m from the Northeast so i just don’t understand how there are endless miles of rolling hills with short grass that looks like it was mowed yesterday! Any open space by me has knee to waist high grass unless they harvest hay. Incredible scenery Trent.
Another great video, Trent. We're glad to see you back in the air and making content. These videos really make me want to take a mountain flying course. Does anyone have any recommendations?
Skywalker Aviation stick and rudder aviation Paul leadabrand. Fly his kitfox in the Idaho backcountry into some of the best backcountry strips in the west. I hear he’s great.
@@coryturner9140 Thank you. Will look into it.
It makes me so happy that this kind of flying still exists today. Aviation at its purest form!!
So nice to see you airborne again Trent. I fly every inch of the way with you. Your videos are #1 pro stuff.
Great time right up the engine issue. Any disposition yet as to what happened?????
John Kamm 4 of us in a C172, in New York State one a Sunday afternoon, I’m in left rear, the engine started marking noise, OIL ALL OVER , MORE NOISE BOOM QUIT, nothing but forest, tore both wings off, nobody severely injured, NO FIRE , but a 3 hour walk, out to a road, that was BEFORE CELL PHONES. something you NEVER FORGET. .!!!
John Kamm watch the end of the video... it’s in there
Jake I appreciate you man. You all are indeed a great group of guys each adding to the others. Need to see more of this group - best to you Jake -- R
That engine sounded so sweet after the field repair. Someone really knows what they are doing. Thanks for the video!
FAA rule number one of propping an airplane. ALWAYS have a competent pilot at the controls while initiating startup manually at the prop!
Awesome video man. Looks like Alot of fun.
Carry part like dang, imagine if that happens when your alone
The Osmo view is so cool! It gives kind of a feeling for the movement of your plane. Please more of this.
For all, that didnt noticed that, i ment the stabilised view from the back of the cockpit, where the horizon is "fixt" and every movemet of the fox is visible.
...so nice Trend, great idea
awesome hope the guy gets his plane str8 dope video as always trent!!
I love the flying you guys do - such a sense of freedom.
"Well im glad it wasnt the whole engine"
Heh, when i saw that sparkplug i instantly thought rod/ piston bearing oiling issue
Which would mean alot of the engine...
Do these guys have so much money that they dont have to fix anything themselves?
Great to see ya back in the air Trent. Love your videos. Even though his engine problems were unfortunate, at least everyone made it back safe.
Me: just flew and saw a bush plane crash landing and flipped
RUclips: We gonna show u some bush planes and see what happened
That looks like so much fun. It's on my bucket list to get a private pilot certificate.
What a blast, thanks for sharing!