Why everyone is buying Sonic Forces again - Sonic Forces Overclocked REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 2 янв 2024
- During the holiday season of 2023, Sonic Forces saw its largest surge in players in 3 years, and Sega has fans to thank!
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Note from the devs: "This is Sonic Forces Overclocked, a mod that totally transforms the original Sonic Forces into an entirely new experience!
The mod’s central aim is to introduce new fully thought-out levels, taking advantage of new obstacles and mechanics to create fresh and exciting levels. The stages have been entirely overhauled with brand new level design, taking more cues from other 3D Sonic titles such as Unleashed and Generations to provide a much more fleshed-out experience with Forces.
These levels are also accompanied with new visuals, set pieces and an entirely new original soundtrack!
The story of the mod takes place a few months after Eggman’s defeat at the end of the original game.
Infinite and Neo Metal Sonic have harnessed the power of the now 'Overclocked’ Phantom Ruby, bending reality to their will to forge a new army from the ashes of the Eggman Empire.
With the world in peril once again, Sonic and the Resistance must reunite to stop the two villains’ Phantom Army, and put an end to the power that threatens their world.
There is an additional 'Episode Metal' prequel story that can be accessed via the main menu in which the story of Metal Sonic's rise to power can be found."
Link to intro music: • Micheal Jackson x Brun... 
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I just have to say, I love the thematic element of teamwork in this by having two villains team, up in an attempt to “show the world what we can do“ but unlike the heroes, who are genuinely trusting and relying on one another to do their part, the villains clearly don’t work well together, as their partnership feels less genuine, and more of just a means to an end.
May be a little cheesy, but I think it was a nice touch to mirror how the tagteam mechanic worked narratively. Besides, sonics, whole thing is the opposite of sonic, so this feels very unbranded for him to see how Sonic works with others, tries copying that strategy, but misses the point of teamwork.
If the story wasn´t bad that would be cool
Samprocrastinates brought this thought up: “imagine the higher-ups at sega just looking at their sales charts, and seeing the bump in sales for sonic forces, they’d be so confused!”
"A furry militia going up against Hitler with robots."
This is my new synopsis for Sonic's plot. Thank you.
Little fact abt the mod: this isn’t the finished version. Due to covid, they couldn’t finish it, so they held a poll on their discord to the fans to either:
leave it how it was at that point
Finish it, but make it drastically shorter.
The fans chose for the finished but shorter option, and this dlc is what that was. From what I know, there was a metropolis level planned, an aqua road remake, a null space level, which is why that part with the avatar felt weird, another chemical plant level and more. In general every level except for the classic sonic levels.
Edit: Just remembered the name of that chemical plant level, it was meant to be Network terminal, but changed into the scale of overclocked, kinda like fright frenzy, but more distorted.
ain't this exactly what happened to base forces
@@AccelerateHedgebase forces came out in 2017 it is not what happened. They had a year of development time that’s what happened. The overlocked team started in 2019, around the time where Covid started, and then carried over to 2020, which went south bc of the pandemic, and since they couldn’t even work on the mod, they didn’t have enough time to finish it. Knowing the team and how fast they work it could’ve been done by like 2021-2022 if the pandemic never happened
@@farhaadjagga2907 I know that base Forces came out in 2017, but I mean that Forces was only given like one actual year of dev time. The other four years were spent making Hedgehog Engine 2.
If that's the case, I'll continue to wait it out~
@@FloofPuppy uhm, they’re done with the mod, ur gonna need to wait till GTA 7 comes out if u want to see that version. There are alpha versions of some of the stages on RUclips, from that chemical plant and metropolis level specifically
6:33 Eggman sends the avatar from null space to the death egg (which is explained in the final cutscene).
6:47 The avatar was mad at sonic because he started a fight with Neo and Infinite.
The best part about this was hearing the VAs from Adrenaline Dubs! If you haven't seen them I highly recommend checking out their content, they do fan dubs of both the IDW and Archie comics, more people need to see their stuff!!
This was a really impressive mod. It takes the handful of things that objectively work in Sonic Forces (the environments, atmosphere, and general premise) and build upon it to make a great sequel story.
I will say though, I wish there was just one or two more things . Obviously, I’m not demanding these as honestly, the fact, a fan mod can be this expensive as it is, is super impressive.
However, I remember during the story tales randomly put on his armor from Lost World. When they made a big deal about him arriving, I thought he was going to become playable (perhaps he could be skinned over Classic Sonic and have a level where you have to reach the computer room; and then maybe if possible, could end with an endgame touch scene where he uses his gun arm to destroy the computer after taking the information he needs?) Obviously it doesn’t subtract from the mod that Tails isn’t playable, I think it would’ve been really neat if that was included.
Also, I think it would’ve been nice if Episode Metal had a boss fight. The level featured a bunch of rogue, glitching badniks, so they could’ve reused the AI from Zavok’s fight to make you fight a giant Buzz Bomber pilot by the Egg Robo. Or if you want more thematic purpose, maybe when he initially tries approaching the phantom. Ruby, it shoots off an energy blast, and a copy of Metal Sonic is created. Throughout the entire fight, the phantom clone is berating, metal sonic, calling him “An imposter; A wannabe; not worthy to be the real sonic, he’s just an Aaron boy for the Doctor.” This would give him that little bit more of a realization moment and encourage him to overthrow Eggman.
Again, I’m not asking for any of us, what we have is already more than enough, and I don’t have the same expectations I would for an official release. I’m just saying, I think these elements would’ve been pretty cool and could’ve expanded the narrative.
TLDR:
I think adding a Boss Fight for Metal Sonic or a playable Tails (over Classic Sonic) could’ve been a fun addition to the mod, but was not required in the slightest as what we have is already great. I just think it would’ve been cool and helped expand on the narrative a bit.
overclocked became one of my favorite 3d sonic experiences thus far in about the course of one day
What 3D Sonic games have you played? I don´t see anything unique on Overclocked to even be compared to smth like Unleashed or Generations
@@MilesReset can’t say shit these days 😭🤦♂️
i am surprised sonic forces is making a comeback.
No thanks to the game itself
It’s all because of the mod
No no no, it’s not sonic forces, it’s the fans.
@@Mohamed58290 I figured as much
Ngl forces is my favorite game. (Don't hate me, plz)
@@Diamondflash137 how many other Sonic games have you played?
If one looks hard enough, there is obvious moments of unfinished concepts, but I admire the devs’ attempts to still make it cohesive enough. (Eggman outright stating he’s the reason for the Rookies’ escape from Null Space comes to mind.) It is, ultimately, unfortunate, but given it’s a fan mod with years of dedication, it’s easy to overlook personally.
12:46 Apparently there was a lot of in-game mechanics that the mod devs also just _could not_ get around without completely recreating the game from the ground up. Even having to split up stages (namely the Mystic Forest) because apparently Forces has stage limiters. They talk about it on AdrenalineDubs’ stream of the game if you’re curious, but essentially the game itself enforced the shorter stages. I’m just thankful for what we did get.
Glad you enjoyed it! This mod certainly deserves the praise and I completely agree with you on the comic-style cutscenes being an awesome decision. It’s also great because it lets fan artists in the community shine! Between that, the animations, the acting, the coding, and the music, it’s as if every type of fancreation worked together on this project and that’s pretty incredible.
Here's to 2024 Pup, hope you hit 100K 👍
Thank You For Playing! Happy New Year!!
Sonic fans: Try Spark the Electric Jester 3.
Imo it's the best 3D Sonic ever made.
Forces genuinely gave me a headache both times I've played it. The avatar was a part I did enjoy as well as shadow's dlc. That being said, I may genuinely give this a shot. I've been curious about it since I saw the chemical plant teaser. (Showing chaotix and trains for the level) Seeing that they did some really cool and interesting stuff, like starlight to Ash hill, I'm a bit excited.
Unrelated, I gotta ask pup. Do you think you'll cover / review the project Shadow fan film? I've seen barely anyone talk about it and just watched it two days ago. It blew me away, and I was surprised it flew under my radar.
I fully plan to! Not that it's by any means short on attention but it absolutely deserves the spotlight.
TNH Nebula did an amazing job with some of the soundtrack.
The team really out did themselves, finally seeing infinite recieve better story aspects alongside Eggman and the rest of the main crew.
Voice Acting, Art Design, Game Soundtracks were all just the chefs kiss, 10/10.
As well as the addition to Neo Metal Sonic is absoloutely fitting for the theme of this game with the eventual tease for a possibility for a newer project.
Extremely Good Game and would love to see further installments from the team!! ❤🔥
This is what Sonic Forces should have been...
Just couldn't keep the New York out of Sonic at the end there, I see. I love these fun things you do for your Patreon plugs and Patron name reads.
Glad to see you cover this awesome mod, Pup, and your review has not disappointed at all. Keep up the great work, I hope 2024 is treating you well so far.
You know what they say: fans/mods will fix it. While flawed on some aspects (as to be expected from a fan project with limited budget), this is a real improvement over the original with a lot of stronger elements and real heart put into it !
4:20 "Seals Dr. Robotnik in cyberspace."
This single sentence is entirely wrong.
I meant null space.
One of these days, Metal will fuse with the death egg to become DEATH METAL. And when it does, I'm gonna be so happy.
This was my first ever sonic game and I’m glad that mod devs made it not just good in my heart, but also in terms of gameplay. Sonic forces is special to me and I’m happy people are making it actually really fun.
Alright, awesome vid', 'Pup!
Your review is the sole reason I will be buying Forces on Steam (to get the mod!). So.. thanks for that!
I bought Forces just for this mod. I reeeeally hope the over clocked team fixes the controls and dear GODDD please pull the camera back. It’s so hard to see anything when boosting. I want to appreciate the level design but the controls need improvement and that camera (plus the boost effects which I modded out) really hold it back so much!
6:32-6:44 They actually did cover how the CaC did get to the Death Egg instead of Null Space at the final comic book cutscene before the end credits. It went into detail that Eggman "created" Null Space & was able to re-write its coding from the inside out & actually make it to where the CaC was instead transported to the destroyed Death Egg. Now there is a bit of a plothole how Eggman got out but, again SEGA themselves have made Eggman come back from completely impossible situations like how he was stuck in a time limbo w/ his past self so ig the Overclocked team went the same route for Eggman to get out of Null Space too but, yeah; Thats how our CaC was able to get to the Death Egg instead of going to Null Space.
Forces Overclocked though (even though i cant play it cuz no Steam version) is an AMAZING PIECE OF WORK! It absolutely blows Sonic Forces out the window & i love my boy Neo Metal finally coming back again. Yes its fan-made but, Neo Metal has had a chance to shine in not only IDW but, a fan-made mod for an official product? I love Overclock for what its done & i hope to play it someday myself ~
If you loved the game’s main theme, you gotta listen to Zakkujo and Kontingion’s other music. It’s fire 🔥
I've not yet found the time to play Overclocked yet, but in regards to the base game Forces homing attack specifically, I figured out why it feels so jank quite some time ago when comparing it to other Sonic games in my Steam library. The homing attack in Forces kills your forward movement as soon as the attack connects and doesn't give you much of it back at all regardless of holding down movement inputs, to the point you're almost falling straight down after if you don't have something else to homing attack or just choose not to. In other Sonic games you could regain quite a bit of forward movement after a homing attack, and that gets ingrained in your muscle memory to the point that when you can't do that anymore it sticks out and feels bad. The homing attack in Forces stifles your mobility and feels like something to use only when you absolutely have to as a result. It also makes homing attack chains feel much more automated and on rails, with very little player control. The only input that matters is just pushing the jump button again and you don't even really get any sections where the timing matters. Closest thing are those QTE sections.
As far as I'm aware Forces was built off Lost World as a base, which is where a lot of the code for the jumping physics probably comes from. In Lost World you could somewhat get used to the jumping physics by first figuring out that what happens when you jump is linked to both whether you are holding down movement input and whether you are holding down the run button. Holding down the run button while moving and then pressing jump would tend to slow you down and kill your speed, while letting go of the run button first would do a better job of transitioning into a long jump for some reason, as if the run button was functioning as a break button in midair. It wasn't a very "Sonic" jumping system, which made it unintuitive to returning Sonic players, but it wasn't as bad as most fans thought it was and could be adapted to in your muscle memory In Forces however the controls are very different and so the jumping physics don't translate very well, and feel somewhat inverted comparatively. It seems to be tied to your speed instead, with the player moving over a certain speed value doing a long jump instead of a high jump. It feels like they were attempting to make the jumping physics feel more natural and intuitive, but messed up badly in that the player can't slow down or even change direction very well, leading to a similar loss of control as when using the homing attack.
These two issues combined make midair movement in Forces really terrible. You lack tools to efficiently control yourself midair. Even when moving slow the pathetic little double jump move is the only "reliable" tool you have to change direction. It often overcompensates when you're trying to use it to steer yourself, which also feels really bad, and is the reason for the quotation marks around "reliable". You also have airboost, which doesn't give you much control and can easily get you killed. The only sense of control you really have with it is the ability to time a stomp to land where you want to, but that's also rather unwieldy especially with the camera not pointed in an at all convenient way for doing this.
All things considered, if the Overclocked team managed to make a genuinely fun experience despite this built in control problem in the base game, they've achieved nothing less than a miracle and deserve all the accolades they receive. It would have been preferable if they could have fixed up the controls and physics to eliminate the problems to begin with and then design the stages around their new controls and physics, but it's entirely possible that this simply wasn't an option for whatever reason, such as these particular issues being too hard baked into the code to be simply modded out or something. I'm not an expert on what is and isn't possible in Forces modding, but I am aware that not every game can be modded to the same extent and modders often find themselves with their hands tied regarding certain issues.
Biggest W of the mod is that they cut Classic Sonic entirely. They could have repurposed him for another character but they decided not to and I respect it. They focused in on what was their strongest aspects and didn't bother including Sega's weakest aspect at all.
28:43 Sonic morphing into animated Mario
No way he said Cyber Space 💀 He was supposed to say Null Space instead 4:20
fun fact: At the very least Sonic, Neo Metal and Amy are voiced by their same VA's from Adrenaline Dubs
EDIT: And eggman too, so probably most of the cast
Now I wish for this game on Steam as well.
A lot of the VAs in Overclocked where actually brought over from Adrenaline Dubs.
You should really check them out, their IDW Sonic dub is kind of insane!
1:54 i only hope Over locked doesn't become a sonic omens issue... Also, I wish the mod had some animated cutscenes. The comic book style is nice tho.
The story doesn´t really worth it anyway
I was wondering that too. When I was on PT everyone was talking about forces and playing it again, like wha-
Ngl zakkujo made a lot of great sonic music : take it all is So good
Big the Cat cameos sold me
Is it on PC only or console versions have it as well?
They should’ve called this mod sonic forces redemption edition.
It’s just MORE Forces. I don’t think it deserves that title, Overclocked is kind of meh
@@MilesReset I meant in way this mod alone managed to get more sales for the games and that’s crazy.
@@Magicghost23 Well that is true tho
I may have to download and install the Steam version of Forces just to play this, especially for that Star Light love.
even super sonic has a varationation of fist bump and it ROCKS
but it also gives a sense of that you don't need super sonic but it just makes it more worth it when you decide to use super sonic
"To much nostalgia" then repeats Green Hill and Chemical Plant for the 20th time
After the release of Forces SEGA later confirmed that after his final fight in the base game, Infinite got himself sealed in the Phantom Ruby. The mod follows this by showing Metal extracting him from it to recruit him in a cutscene.
It will never cease to amaze me how good Sonic fans can make even the weakest Sonic games.
Not to say Sega or Sonic Team’s efforts were poor with Sonic Forces. It didn’t do well. But, they’re lucky to have such a passionate, creative, and loyal fanbase. Not to say they depend on their fans to fix past bad games, but Sonic Forces Overclocked exemplifies how Sega or Sonic Team can learn from this, and maybe even be inspired to do better in any future games. Still, that’s not to downplay Sonic Frontiers. That game is a good beginning for this new chapter/era of Sonic.
im gonna be the guy to say it. at 4:20 you said cyber space, not null space. a mistake you will never financially recover from
Even though it leads to a slightly disappointing anticlimax for the story, one of the things I really liked about the way they wrote Metal Sonic is how he's so utterly determined to rebel against his creator, become the ultimate version of "Sonic" and grow beyond his programming but then falls right into the same kind of traps that Eggman would and makes the same kinds of mistakes.
I think it shows they had a really good understanding of his character while doing their own thing with him at the same time.
How what he always fails to see is that he can't learn to improve himself as long as he's only doing it to be better than somebody else.
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My only real (very small) gripe with this is that I'd have preferred fully original music tracks to remixes of the base game's songs. I'll admit I'm not the biggest fan of Forces' OST to begin with, but more importantly the musicians they had here were obviously tremendously talented and I just think the decision to mostly rework existing tracks put an unnecessary limit on them -- 'cause while the remixes are almost all better than the originals in my opinion, you can still really a difference in the few songs that are completely new.
I'd have much preferred to fully hear them shine all the way through the game.
Everything else about this mod is absolutely phenomenal in my book.
i hope sega sees this and never ever even considers banning mods from their games like other companies have.
mods literally boosts your sales
It's worth mentioning that you can get more than an hour out of Overclocked too if you're interested in getting S ranks and all the collectibles! I had no interest in doing that for Forces because the controls and level design werent fun. Overclocked gives me the feeling Generations did where I have to play again and again until I beat my high score!
Hm, how very interesting, I wonder what other Games could be done something similar to?
By the way, about Infinite, do you know of the Freedom Fighters Series?
I already have Sonic Forces on Switch... But I will gladly pay the 10 bucks to play and mod this on PC! :3
also some special happens if you attack omochao a bunch
I bought Sonic Forces on my PS4 on sale last year. It's shame that there's no way to download Mods on consoles and I don't even have a PC for that... Ugh, why can't we have a option to download Mods on Consoles too???... 😩
Jesus Christ...now i want sonic forces overclocked
I have a very stupid question.So does it work on ps4?
Oh yeah I bought Sonic Forces on Switch a few weeks ago 😄 I bought it because it was on special at 8 dollars. Never tried it til now and finished it in a couple days. It was silly but I had fun. Well worth the 8 dollars!
fun fact about the dark omochao, if you keep hitting it it will eventually just get annoyed at you and blow you up.😂😂
You show P-06 a little when doing this review, plz review that fan game is my favorite of all time.
4:55 fin.
Where can you get this?
check the description
4:20 Did you mean Null Space?
Yes.
Hey, I’m coming in from May, Sonic Forces on Steam now $40, just thought you should know.
18:20 does anyone have a source for this? Not doubting the accuracy (this is Sega after all), I’m just shocked I’d never heard about this until now.
Ik that if you look the model of those things, in the inside they have reused textures of the Perfect Chaos from Sonic Generations. But other than that, no, I think that is kind of a joke??? Idk I’m also confused with that, never heard of it
Haven't ever heard of anything like it as well, the Longbois have water textures similar to Perfect Chaos' inside them, but other than that there's nothing about them as far as I know, so I think it might be just a joke that Pup made sound too serious
Sonic Forces on it's way to become the highest selling Sonic Game
i dont want green hill period tbh after frontiers
no matter how changed it is, if i see the name green hill show up on a title card, im gonna be understandably annoyed
chemical plant exterior was the best looking returning stage in the original forces imo im surprised you didnt mention the aesthetics of the wintery chemical plant and how harbor-y and awesome it looked
Thats great and all but hope it won't make cause sonic team to continue what they did in forces cuz that will be incompetency , kishimoto and lizuka said that they will be inspired by fans work for next game.
They're fully aware of the console market, and even if management are always looking for ways to cut corners, the devs do take pride in their work, so I don't think that's a possibility.
know kinda hope seeing mod like this there. is mods redo game maybe as alt timeline connect story that is written but make it better tad bit make it make sense have stuff like well video show weather sonic or otherwise.on off note
do like sonic kinda hope they revist idea even non cannon sonic game where get make own oc like in alt sonic unverise maybe has diffrent power or sh maybe even get super form(no this this oc from forces) but thats just something i wish for like love create own sonic chartcer play it of course takes in sonic stuff gonna make sonic playble but love see more well gameplay for oc. maybe expiermente with idea both 2d and 3d 2d own game 3d own game. but that just me kinda casual so know lol
For everything that forces did right (for me) it did at least 2 things wrong. The existence of this mod makes me genuinely sad that I’m on a console edition of it. I’m so glad to see that someone went in to make Sonic Forces into the game it should’ve been. Thank you to the team behind overclocked; if any of you are reading this, even if I can’t experience this mod, I’m glad that others can.
Forces was bad you don’t have to sugarcoat it, it just has Sparks of Brilliance and it feels bad to Dog on Sonic Team like people used to now that the Dedication and Crunch they had through the years is increasingly apparent. That said this is a Good Vid
LESSS GOOOOOO
Sonic forces is fantastic.
Is it on ps4
Ugh. I thought this said Sonic Heroes. Nevermind
I love fan projects like these, its the reason why PC gaming will always be superior, but I find that videos that give a spotlight to work like this, can be quite dangerous, due to the fact that it is raising awareness to them, and its possible that SEGA had not been caring about fan projects in the past, but they can decide to change their mind any moment that they want, especially when they are criticized of being lazy or whatever even if its true, so I just hope that going forward companies like SEGA or Capcom keep allowing the community to do their fan projects, since it has become the best way to enjoy their games.
wow
Yaya
it wouldnt be a sonic game if metal sonic wasnt put on the side i guess
I can see why the new sonic design is likable....However I am more of a fan of sonic's unleash design. What I don't like about the forces/frontiers design of sonic is he looks sorta younger then older compared to his 2010 looks and his start up running animation (non boosting) also looks weird to me.
Again. That model is the same one from Sonic Lost World.
It's not, it's higher poly and has different textures.
It's.. still based around the model from Lost World though. Making it higher poly and changing the textures doesn't change that it's originally from Lost world.
If only I had a PC😭
what is mascot for the level headed fanboy even supposed to mean 😭
i just tuned back in at some point early last year and you started saying that every video and i still don't get it a year later
I literally bought the game to play the mod, then after I finished it I refunded the game.
Bravo 👏👏👏
Game modders do what segan’t.
"a firm reminder that this game about a furry militia going up against Hitler with robots" best line i've heard in a while lol
Sonic Forces: I sleep 😴
Sonic Forces but good and also has a green day esc soundtrack: REAL SHIT?!?!
Im prob gonna get bullied for this but sonic forces is the best sonic game imo
I doubt it, but does it work on Switch?
I don't think so.
@ChannelPup that sucks. I don't have sonic forces on pc.
Sonic forces is last good 3d sonic game, I've always said that and always will, with out this mod
15:40 You could say the transition between Seaside Hill to Ocean Palace in Generations counts but they are essentially the same biome so…
I rather play Frontiers then Forces.
Im not gonna lie the mod is absolutely amazing, but this is a double edged sword. People actually buying forces (an absolute travesty of a game) is essentially rewarding them for modders hard work in actually making it a good product. Sega are effectively being told "It's okay to release garbage, modders will fix it anyway" Maybe It's just me but I'm very heavily into the concept of voting with your wallet. Forces should be recognized as a commerical failiure and an example of what happens when you don't even try but now that kind of being changed.
Regardless, like I said the mod is absolutely phenomenal and it's the modders who deserve all the flowers here.
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Sonic forces over cooked
20 players is a spike lmfao get out of here
First
sonic forces overclocked is basically a forces dlc (with all the same issues as forces), so i hard pass on this
Not really. It has SOME of the control issues, but that's about it. The level design is mu- just watch the damn video.
@@ChannelPup i did (plus play it).
@@ChannelPup Nah. The level design CAN be fun, but it’s still ok at best and mediocre at worst.
They should have rewritten the original story rather than making there own that way it would then be the definitive way to play sonic forces
In my opinion - it's a bad mod. The story I can explain in 3 short sentences, the gameplay a bit better, graphics, especially comics cutscenes is just changing the art style every time. No any focused art styles.
The only thing I can excuse - it's gameplay. It's a bit better, but not fully changing original boring Sonic forces gameplay.
The lighting and colors are so bad, things look busy as hell
I just want to say that I hate unofficial licensed games so this is a really bad idea to get this (if you only play licensed sonic games). I just don’t like this game design because it’s like sonic forces but on steroids, and cutscenes are… not cutscenes, just pages. My review? 0/10 stars. I have other problems but if you are a fan of this game then don’t listen to this. It’s horrible, bad in graphics and my least favorite part? The voice acting. I hope there are no more mods like this and if there is, IMA RAID YOUR HOUSE AND LEAVE NO SURVIVORS!!! With that said, I prefer licensed games instead of fan made ones. Don’t play this game.
Yeah forces wasn’t that good . I think it’s worst sonic game I’ve ever played. I have more fun with 06