Ringo's double stop fills are EXACTLY the sort of thing I'm talking about when I talk about why Ringo is so great and so enormously underrated. There's nobody like him, never has been and never will be. Kudos for discussing it and showing Ringo doing it. Such incredible technique, and yet it's something that would just escape most people. If he hadn't done it, though, it wouldn't have had the power it does.
@@harveycan5820 absolutely. He actually arranged orchestral percussion parts for the trap drum kit with his playing. His understanding of melody and timbral variation is rare in any drummer. The fact that you can name the Beatles song just by his drumming is all the proof one needs to know just how phenomenal he is.
In my experience, 99% of the folks, musicians or civilians, who dog Ringo haven't taken the time to listen to the subtle nuances of his playing. After almost 60 years of being a fan of their music, my stock reply is "Fuck off and go buy an album."
@@jamieashby8810 it's much more than subtle nuances too, and that's what's so frustrating about this situation and having to explain it to people who don't get it. Ringo essentially composed orchestral percussion parts for trap drums. His drum parts explore timbre, melody, texture and gesture as much as they do rhythm and dynamics and the subtleties of their execution. He wrote parts and played them. He's amazing. It isn't just blazing speed or pedagogical drills and exercises that he's doing. He treats his drums like a gamelan sometimes. Listen to 'Rain', for instance, quite possibly my very favorite Beatles song if I were forced to pick one instantly. That's stunning drumming. You can listen to his part alone and feel musically satisfied, yet he never gets in the way. He only complements the music. It's perfect.
Never would have thought Ringo used the double stop fill in the intro. Always sounded like it was only the snare but the isolated track proves the double stop! Fantastic job!
@@RingoStarr39can someone go tell this to that weirdo Sage of Quay or whatever his name is? He'll be on here in a minute telling us all that Ringo is air drumming and Purdie was under the stage. Carol Kaye will probably get a run too!
I am 71; I watched the Ed Sullivan shows and lived through Beatlemania. I went on to music school and got a degree in Music Education and then directly after, a Masters in Violin Performance. I played in every classical ensemble I could for fifteen years, winding up as the Concertmaster and Artist in Residence of a Rocky Mountain Region orchestra. Later, in my 40's, I did a whole year of classwork toward a DMA in Orchestral Conducting. I cried hard the morning of Dec 9, 1980. I have arranged some Beatles tunes for strings, and I have chosen others for student performance. I saw McCartney live once, at the Pepsi Center in Denver. I own and consult frequently "The Beatles Complete Scores." I state all this because I want you to know the depth of my involvement in music as well as my passion for the Beatles. You guys are absolutely incredible at what you are doing! I hung on every word of this. Fascinating. Are there any depths to plumb concerning "This Boy," another great tune from this era?
Great to interact with dedicated fans who lived through it all! We actually did an episode on This Boy a few episodes ago, so you should check it out and let us know what you think!
I love your story. I am 73 and saw the Beatles on Ed Sullian when I was 11 or 12. It was all we could talk about back then. So I went into a music class in the 7th grade and was given a cello to play. I never noticed this instrument before, but I came to love it. But I was thrown out of music class because a kid named Bill Bradshaw kept asking me questions that I felt compelled to answer. As an asthmatic, when I was not having an asthma attack, my lungs had more power than a healthy person's. So I was louder than he was and I got caught and was driven to stand in a corner while other kids learned to play music. After studying psychology on lind since 2017, I have come to realize that Bill Bradshaw was a nascent victim of anti-social personality disorder, and that is why he was driven to pretend to be a friend while he was setting me up to be caught misbehaving in Musice class and Math class. It just goes to show how the smallest change in youth can alter one's life course. I might have become a muscician, but for that kid.
I was a teenager on December 8th 1980.....in a record store.. buying Double Fantasy...not knowing yet what had happened. On the drive home the DJ on the radio was all choked up. Then we found out. I was holding Johns new album I hadn't listened to yet. .balling my eyes out. I still have a hard time listening to it.
I was 13 and taking piano lessons and I saw that Ed Sullivan show and thought "I will NEVER be THAT good" and I quit my piano lessons and years later went to AA, all because of the Fab 4
Completely understand why you gave us your backstory and I appreciate it. I'm 79, got hooked on Beatles guitar sounds in 1962, still working on it! Love their music still.
Total delight and a Beatles gear nerd’s ocd Disneyland! I’m 75 and owned a Tenny since I was 15.. and have played this music for the whole time- and thought I knew this stuff.. you guys take the cake. Great job!! And- just as important!? A diversion from election apprehension!
He actually borrowed George’s Futurama 111. Coming from Scouseland, I saw them many times. That Futurama was used extensively on some tracks later on. I still have mine.
You guys make me proud!! I’m 65 and I have been listening to them since I was 4 years old and learning how to play music since I was 6 . Then learning & performing their music since I was 14 years old ! I earlier I said you guys make me it’s because of folks your age are keeping this great music alive!!🥁🎸🎶😎
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My wife isn’t crazy about the Beatles either. There’s a few songs that she likes, but for the most part I drive her insane with my Beatles music. I’ve been listening to them since SGT Pepper came out, and I still don’t get tired of them.
I’ve only watched the first 60 seconds so far and im blown away by the editing/video production. Amazing job! Been waiting for this episode! Literally the only podcast I care about. Thank you for all the work and care you guys put in. 🙏🤘🏻
Another fantastic forensic analysis! I loved hearing the electric piano revelation from the original acetate, hadn't heard that before. Help! is such a fabulous turning point in their catalog; all of their youthful charm with hints of the studio experimentation that would define their latter career.
5:15 I would about guarantee that George Martin was aware that Paul could play a little on the piano before the 'Beatles For Sale' album in late 1964. I don't believe he would have been surprised. Paul and John were both writing on piano in 1963. There were a couple pianos in the studio, so they both probably played around on those pianos before ever playing one on a track.
Great work lads. There is a school of thought that says You're Going to Lose That Girl represents the last song that would fit on any of their previous 4 albums. I agree. It checks all the early Lennon/McCartney boxes. Lennon owning the song. Vintage McCartney/Harrison call-response harmony vocals. Like She Loves You, it adds a third person element to the storytelling. John's soaring falsetto, a boy-girl theme and more All in 2 minutes and 19 seconds. RNB
Gentlemen (warning: standard and way overdone "I'm an old geezer" intro forthcoming), as somebody who was very young in the '60s and remembers looking at his older sister's White Album poster while listening to "Back in the U.S.S.R." for the first time, then rediscovered the Beatles and became a forever fanatic at age 12 (in 1974), I absolutely LOVED this video. LOVED it! It's not only oddly satisfying to see succeeding generations "discover" this band (and by that, I mean actually listen to the catalog and find out what melodic geniuses and fine singers they were; my philosophy has always been that there's no reason why young people of every generation can't enjoy their music the same way I did), but videos (and channels) like yours give incredible new depth to their music and to listeners like me, who've heard these songs a thousand times, still LOVE them, and yet thanks to you, can hear them in whole new and exciting ways. You can't understand how rich your content is to an old fanatic like me because you haven't been listening to these songs for 50+ years the same old way, but the new elements that you uncover are supremely fascinating to me. Until this new generation of musicians and technologists came along, Beatles music was a one-and-done affair. Now, we get to explore the magic underpinning these masterpieces. "You're Gonna Lose That Girl" is one of my absolute favorites of theirs. NEVER gets old. Phenomenal melody, beautiful harmonies, criminally underproduced (but they had time constraints, obviously). THANK YOU for this video!
Yep, agreed. As a longstanding Beatles fanatic, seeing (and hearing) their audio output being laid on the slab and forensically "post-mortemed" in this manner is very satisfying and definitely enhances one's appreciation and understanding of how these guys were able to capture "lightning in a bottle" so frequently and consistently. So much so, that as a hobbyist musician myself.....the one big takeaway I derive from this is that.....at the writing and recording stage, it's so important to "stay loose" and trust your own harmonic instincts whether they're expressing themselves in an "orthodox" manner or not. I've messed around and experimented with this principle with The Beatles as my inspirational muse and the upshot is that when you're writing, composing....and to some extent, even when you're mixing and mastering.....you should do it with such an air of confidence that some of what you're doing might possibly "baffle" or "mystify" anybody who takes it upon themselves to try and replicate or deconstruct your work. I call this principle "performer's privilege" and The Beatles definitely obviated THEIR attitude and philosophy towards this in spades. What obviously mattered to them the most, was that that FINAL audio representation of any given track they were working on, and so long as it passed muster with their own (and George Martin's) sensibilities, they were confident that it could then be released to "the world" as I finished article. Was it all "perfect" and never underworked? Probably not.....but it was always "good enough" because their musicianship was sufficiently honed to carry it....and they KNEW IT.
Another fab episode fellas. My personal fave song from my fave album. I believe that when they performed the said song within the film - it set a precedent for future 'music videos'. Your collective deep-dives are always wonderfully insightful - and fun to watch.
I actually still prefer the USA Help! soundtrack. I hated the film music as a kid but now I love it! Plus it has the "James Bond intro" to the title song - - and all that Capitol compression and reverb!
Great work guys. In a way it's funny to see people that weren't even born at that time to care about what happened then, but I'm glad you guys are on it.
Wow...Massive increase in production values! Inserted videos, graphics, audio clips, etc. Ryan is back off the couch. Best episode ever. Congratulations to whoever is doing the editing. Keep 'em coming, fellas.
Just discovered this channel. First time I have heard these isolated tracks, different solo for the song and review of the keyboard songs. Great stuff. I couldn't subscribe fast enough. My new fave YT channel - can't wait to catch up on your other vids. Thanks, guys!
GREAT show, guys!!! I'm now 69, so I was about nine years old when the Beatles first came to the US on the famous Ed Sullivan Show, and caused all of us - (guys and gals) to go crazy over them, because of their unique sound, their great looks, and of course - their guitars!! My bass player friend and I always drew endless pics of the Rics, and of course were absolutely amazed with George's 360/12. At the end of your wonderful and most revealing commentary and discussion here - I must agree with all of you, wholeheartedly - with your feelings about "Your Gonna Lose That Girl". In exactly the same way you young lads described - that particularly great number was a very memorable 'grabber' number for me as well. Very nice beat and tempo, great lyrics, fabulous transitions from majors to minors and back, great 'bridges', etc. Just a very good, very catchy, very likeable, 'different' number from their other great songs, as well as hits from other bands and performers. I myself, often told others that it was one of my favorite songs of the Beatles - along with "I Should Have Known Better" and "Tell Me Why". In the wonderfully conceived and produced "Hard Day's Night" film - I feel I had the same feelings as perhaps George Martin and Richard Lester obviously had about the two most memorable new numbers chosen for the beginning and ending songs of the film - "I Should Have Known Better" and "Tell Me Why". Let me explain. The first number performed by the Beatles in the film - had to obviously be very 'catchy' and of course - a real 'grabber' and 'holder' of the audience, early on. For me, as well as I'm sure many others my age - I felt this was such a great choice because it was the first time a US audience got to see George's instantly famous Rickenbacker 12 string guitar!! Everyone was so thrilled with both the unique sound and beautiful looks of the guitar, that many hoped and dreamed they might someday own one!! The song was also extremely likeable - both in lyrics, tempo, and the music itself, and featured all the boys with great 'smiles'. Once again - at the end of the movie, showcasing a wonderful 'finale' of the Beatles great songs, it was very necessary to have a very powerful 'grabber' to lead off those songs.... I feel "Tell Me Why" was the perfect choice because of its very exciting and punchy 'drum roll' start, and again - because it was so new and fresh, and very well written, both in lyrics and the music itself, with added bonus of seeing John at his very best - both vocally and visually, really holding the screaming girls and very thrilled guys in the audience - in the palm of his hands, especially the way we see him use his body movements very confidently and seductively, to accentuate and enhance - his already enormous stage presence and magnetism. So tragic and sad - was his later, very frightening murder, but we once again - get to see some very wonderful and most memorable - John Lennon 'smiles' . Re-watch the movie and I'm sure you'll all feel the same way. In closing - I'm so happy and thrilled I came upon your video, and will be sure to view many more of your very insightful discussions and comments about the guitars, keyboards, and amps the Beatles and other famous bands such as the Beach Boys (the biggest rivals to the Beatles at the time) used both on stage and in the studio. My Best Wishes and Thanks to all of you, Greg from Massachusetts USA *PS - Very importantly - Your great video here has given me the 'inspiration' to get my Ric 360/12C63, my Strats, and my Gretsch out of mothballs, and play them!! I have the original Vox VT100 tube and solid state 2-12", amp, which can only 'model' the sound of all your VOX Super Beatle's and AC-30 amps, as well as many of the Fenders, so very excitingly displayed in the background of your video!!
44:19 This is a great observation. What's special about YGLTG though is that John uses the flat-7 chord to modulate to the bridge and back to the verse. The parallel between "..you're gonna (D) lose that girl" and "what else can l (F) do.." is what makes this song.
I often feel that isolated Beatles tracks sound abysmal by themselves, but in the final mix, it sounds just right. After all, it was the Beatles, in process of defining "just right" for all future rock/pop musicians.
Amazing video guys! I’ve never heard that acetate of the song, and I’ve never seen the George Martin notes of that song. I thought it was 100% Strat on the rhythm, but now I’m back to having absolutely no idea lol.
Good Morning All. I don’t know where to start on comments, this is just unbelievably great. I can’t imagine the amount of time and effort all of you have spent on being the musicians you are. Thank you so much for that and sharing with all of us. It’s beautiful to hear and listening to this episode as well as others always immediately places me in a great mood. Again, Thank you!
My vote is Strat on everything! (I am biased like George!) I feel like the Beatles would love this show. I’m sure they wouldn’t even remember!! lol Sam laying down serious knowledge in this episode!!! Props y’all!
Judging by Paul telling story how he got Casino because of Hendrix even tho he had it like 2 years before he came to UK is well… We might know even less as we do now. 😂
Excellent work as always! It never ceases to amaze me that you can get a situation where the Beatles are recording at EMI with George Martin using all the technology of the day….standing in front of the microphones ready to record….and they can still have instruments out of tune 🙂
I've always had this theory that the Beatles had their guitars in-tune with each other and their voices, but flatter than 440, but that the piano added later was 440. I tried making a mix where I removed the piano for a lot of it and the overall track sounds more in-tune to me. It's such a gorgeous song with all the overlapping vocals.
Wow! Just found your channel. Been listening to The Beatles since I was 4. My dad had a Philips turntable and amplifier ‘Hifi’ he bought in the ‘60s. As I showed an interest, he decided to show me how to use it rather than forbid me from going at it. With The Beatles, A Collection of Beatles Oldies and Let It Be were my diet for my first 6 years, till I was old enough to start buying my own records. Looking forward to checking out the rest of the video on the channel!
Really enjoyed this video, especially the final comments. Have always thought the Help album is underrated in the Beatles catalogue and you guys give good reasons why it's as good as it is. This song included.
Great video - lots of excellent points made, and highly informative. But can we talk for a moment about those backing vocals from Paul and George? It’s amazing how they were able to blend so well it almost creates a third voice.
Fun stuff guys! I bought most of the Beatles records when they came out. SO cool seeing this music embraced by each new generation (my kids love The Beatles, my grandkids now love The Beatles! …my dad was an old school Sinatra guy, and was a hard sell on The Beatles, but around 1970 I knew he finally “got it” when we could hear him singing Hey Jude in the shower one day! 😂). The Fabs were simply The Best. So glad I grew up back then, but so glad this amazing music bridges the generations. Carry on! I just subbed to your channel- good work kids! 🎉
Hi everyone loved this discussion.I’m convinced it’s a gretsch ..now having played guitar all my life and being old enough to have played in the cavern (the original) have also recorded in Abbey road ..remember they stuck everything though the Fairchild compressor..and also the different string length between fender and gretsch ..I rest my case ..I love your enthusiasm may the this channel became a huge success.. Thanks.
As a Beatles freak, guitar player and song-writer, I can not tell you how much this channel feeds my need (others would say 'geekiness', but they just do not understand), to discuss and try to establish how The Fabs' tracks were recorded, who played what, and so on. Many thanks. In terms of the solo, I am with Michael - I am not convinced it is a Strat - partly because the sonic quality of the 'bad' solo is so inferior to the released take that it, quite literally, muddies the issue.
Man I been following for a while. Love your stuff. More bass videos please- what I wanted to say is what a jump in the video editing. Don’t know what you guys are doing different but the film clips + graphics + HQ Videos when you guys do the testing originally etc etc... Love to see it. Keep going lads
Another great episode guys. Always ready for the next. Would you guys ever consider making an episode in more depth about the instruments/recording tech was used in get back? Not just the guitars, but the drums, organ, Rhodes keyboard, grand piano ect ect ect. Thanks again 🫡
I would like to say I could totally see John using George’s Tenne, and George being the cheeky fellow he is, picking up johns 325 for the solo. We do see him kind of pretend playing it in the Help movie.
The lead, I agree with you guys. You can hear the distinctive bell tune of the strat. The rythum has Gretch characteristics. I also agree with how much those Vox amplifiers color the tone. The tube mixing consoles that were used with Beatles had the ability to capture high end without adding harsh harmonics like some of todays mixers. Love your show and I to am still captivated by The Beatles and some of the styled guitars they used.
I thought Paul played Piano on Beatles For Sale, possibly on Every Little Thing. What I love about his playing on this song is that it’s like his playing on That Means A Lot, especially the bass notes.
I'm 71 yrs old, and was using a Tenny in the mid 60's. I think the solo is played on a Gretsch, rhythm on a Strat. That said- they were pretty enamored by the Fenders when they got them- so possibly both parts are played on Strats. Why they chose what they chose for the film does give pause slightly to the idea that they used other than what we saw onscreen. Secondly, my vote is for a 12th position kick on the solo. When you guys played it otherwise, there's more hesitation during the changes of positions. You needn't change the hand's position as much when starting at fret 12; it's easier and more fluid- as it sounds when GH plays it.
Keltner is fine but he is the definition of a studio drummer. Ringo has incredible feel and personality in his drums, in my eyes he’s one of the best drummers in history.
Not a “gearhead” or anything, but loved this video. First one I’ve seen from you guys and it was tremendous. Your editing is fantastic and discussion insightful. This is also one of the band’s most underrated songs.
Wow, fantastic video on one of my favorites of theirs. True story: Going to work one morning many years ago, the local top 40 radio station had just played this song. The DJ started talking then said "that just sounded so good let's hear it again" or something to the effect and played it again. Definitely one of their gems that wasn't a hit.
26:16 Kinda surprised that there wasn't any more discussion on the Casino - without me knowing dates and pictures etc, just using my ears, that sounds like a strong contender for the solo. Thanks for the discussion though, interesting stuff
Another great episode fellas! I, like you, always assumed the scene in HELP! was an accurate portrayal of the actual recording. Love how you break it down and I'm right there with you all. Tenny and Strat. Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall and seen John playing George's guitar for that session. I lie...I'd love to have been a fly on the wall for all their sessions...but definitely this one as well 😉
Fantastic video!! I honestly think the Gretsch was used as the rhythm guitar, and I agree with Michael that there is still a possibility of the solo being played on the Gretsch, as seen in the Help! movie. I'd say that for the solo there is a 60% chance that it played on a Fender Sonic Blue 1961 Stratocaster and 40% chance that it was played on a 1962 Gretsch Tennessean.
Yet another legendary episode lads! Never knew about George Martin’s note on John using the Gretsch let alone the Tenny. I was definitely on the Strat train before the episode. Also was 50/50 on the Strat or the Tenny for the guitar used for the solo, but definitely now am 100% on the Strat. Can’t wait for the next one
Yes, the note is interesting. It strikes me that George M. would be unlikely to have made a casual mistake in noting that John played the Gretsch as it was so unusual. In fact its being unusual could well be why George made a specific note of it at all.
The solo must be the Gretsch because it has a distinct Filtertron sound like Roll Over Beethoven has. And I wonder if George broke a lot of strings? The attack on some of the notes sounds very aggressive.
I remember reading that John stated in the early days he would always keep his b string slightly out so he could point out to mimi which guitar was his
My $0.02, one of the most often overlooked ‘guitar effects’ for Beatles’ guitars are the mics and mic preamps, they add a lot of character and natural compression.
An excellent review of the Beatles, I'm impressed with what's been researched 😊. Thanks Cheers, personally I think the dissonance is one of the ingredients ❤ Gretsch
I honestly don't know where to begin; the sound captures that era like nothing else. I remember watching a thunderstorm parting while the radio played softly in the background. The DJ announced he was about to spin some new Beatles songs. It was fresh but humid, and after the storm passed, the trees released that distinctive, zesty ozone scent. It's difficult for me to untangle the sounds from the countless sensory memories of that day. I can still feel the warm summer sunshine streaming through the breaking clouds, pouring in through the open window, and that was, what, six decades ago? There's something strangely profound about the Beatles and their lasting impact. you could probably do a 5 hour pod cast with just people relating their initial memories of when that album enter their consciousness and their response. Sorry for not being a help.
This was another fascinating video from you guys. Regarding which guitars were used, I always go back to how much of the sound lies in the players hands. Give the same guitarist two or three guitars and it's going to sound very similar due to it being the same fingers doing the playing. Keep up the good work. 👍😎
great show - first i have seen --i just kept thinking why not ask paul lol-really fun to watch for musicians and fans - you guys leave no stone unturned
Wish we could ask Paul! But actually we’ve interviewed someone recently who was able to ask Paul and George the same guitar question independently in 1968 about a song recorded only 3 years earlier and he got different answers from each of them. You really have to think of it as the equivalent of someone asking you what you ate for lunch on a random day in 2016
I first noticed somebody talking about a 2nd burried rythm guitar when i watched ryan’s video not visible in this video. i always wondered where you would even hear it but just like sam and ryan’s description it was said verbally rather than being able to be heard.
Ryan here, I think my impression at the time was that there was a sort of more lower end guitar sound and a top end guitar sound which tonally must’ve sounded different enough to me that I thought there was an extra rhythm guitar just playing the lower strings. But when I did my test recording for this through my AC100, that lower sound just seemed to be there naturally in the recording so I’m confident that the rhythm is just one guitar again.
George and John: picks a guitar to play
Those guys: *and I took that personally* 😂
Ringo's double stop fills are EXACTLY the sort of thing I'm talking about when I talk about why Ringo is so great and so enormously underrated. There's nobody like him, never has been and never will be. Kudos for discussing it and showing Ringo doing it. Such incredible technique, and yet it's something that would just escape most people. If he hadn't done it, though, it wouldn't have had the power it does.
Songwriters dream drummer!
@@harveycan5820 absolutely. He actually arranged orchestral percussion parts for the trap drum kit with his playing. His understanding of melody and timbral variation is rare in any drummer. The fact that you can name the Beatles song just by his drumming is all the proof one needs to know just how phenomenal he is.
@@harveycan5820 and starting fills with his left hand produces such amazing results that no one else does.
In my experience, 99% of the folks, musicians or civilians, who dog Ringo haven't taken the time to listen to the subtle nuances of his playing.
After almost 60 years of being a fan of their music, my stock reply is "Fuck off and go buy an album."
@@jamieashby8810 it's much more than subtle nuances too, and that's what's so frustrating about this situation and having to explain it to people who don't get it. Ringo essentially composed orchestral percussion parts for trap drums. His drum parts explore timbre, melody, texture and gesture as much as they do rhythm and dynamics and the subtleties of their execution. He wrote parts and played them. He's amazing. It isn't just blazing speed or pedagogical drills and exercises that he's doing. He treats his drums like a gamelan sometimes. Listen to 'Rain', for instance, quite possibly my very favorite Beatles song if I were forced to pick one instantly. That's stunning drumming. You can listen to his part alone and feel musically satisfied, yet he never gets in the way. He only complements the music. It's perfect.
The editing has only gotten better and better with each episode. This has the best editing and pacing by far. Great accompanying visuals.
hooray for hollywood , and all that
Never would have thought Ringo used the double stop fill in the intro. Always sounded like it was only the snare but the isolated track proves the double stop! Fantastic job!
one of the subtly craziest Ringo intros
Ringo's parts always fit the song yet are still unique enough to be difficult to actually figure out. haha
@@RingoStarr39can someone go tell this to that weirdo Sage of Quay or whatever his name is? He'll be on here in a minute telling us all that Ringo is air drumming and Purdie was under the stage. Carol Kaye will probably get a run too!
I am 71; I watched the Ed Sullivan shows and lived through Beatlemania. I went on to music school and got a degree in Music Education and then directly after, a Masters in Violin Performance. I played in every classical ensemble I could for fifteen years, winding up as the Concertmaster and Artist in Residence of a Rocky Mountain Region orchestra. Later, in my 40's, I did a whole year of classwork toward a DMA in Orchestral Conducting. I cried hard the morning of Dec 9, 1980. I have arranged some Beatles tunes for strings, and I have chosen others for student performance. I saw McCartney live once, at the Pepsi Center in Denver. I own and consult frequently "The Beatles Complete Scores." I state all this because I want you to know the depth of my involvement in music as well as my passion for the Beatles. You guys are absolutely incredible at what you are doing! I hung on every word of this. Fascinating. Are there any depths to plumb concerning "This Boy," another great tune from this era?
Great to interact with dedicated fans who lived through it all! We actually did an episode on This Boy a few episodes ago, so you should check it out and let us know what you think!
I love your story. I am 73 and saw the Beatles on Ed Sullian when I was 11 or 12. It was all we could talk about back then. So I went into a music class in the 7th grade and was given a cello to play. I never noticed this instrument before, but I came to love it. But I was thrown out of music class because a kid named Bill Bradshaw kept asking me questions that I felt compelled to answer. As an asthmatic, when I was not having an asthma attack, my lungs had more power than a healthy person's. So I was louder than he was and I got caught and was driven to stand in a corner while other kids learned to play music. After studying psychology on lind since 2017, I have come to realize that Bill Bradshaw was a nascent victim of anti-social personality disorder, and that is why he was driven to pretend to be a friend while he was setting me up to be caught misbehaving in Musice class and Math class. It just goes to show how the smallest change in youth can alter one's life course. I might have become a muscician, but for that kid.
I was a teenager on December 8th 1980.....in a record store.. buying Double Fantasy...not knowing yet what had happened. On the drive home the DJ on the radio was all choked up. Then we found out. I was holding Johns new album I hadn't listened to yet. .balling my eyes out. I still have a hard time listening to it.
I was 13 and taking piano lessons and I saw that Ed Sullivan show and thought "I will NEVER be THAT good" and I quit my piano lessons and years later went to AA, all because of the Fab 4
Completely understand why you gave us your backstory and I appreciate it. I'm 79, got hooked on Beatles guitar sounds in 1962, still working on it! Love their music still.
“John… can sing.” It may be controversial but I agree.
I spit only facts 🔥
@@MichaelSokilbig Jim
Compare to what is called a "singer"
NOWADAYS!
@@George-dx9nc like Taylor Swift🤣. She’s all autotune, all the time!
1 billion records sold.. clearly says he can😂
Absolutely superlative guys. Anyone who is a Beatles freak like me just can’t get enough of the geekery you guys put out. Thanks….keep it up.
Total delight and a Beatles gear nerd’s ocd Disneyland! I’m 75 and owned a Tenny since I was 15.. and have played this music for the whole time- and thought I knew this stuff.. you guys take the cake. Great job!! And- just as important!? A diversion from election apprehension!
So yiu have the experience; are you saying "yes" to the Gent?
I say it's a banjo.
He actually borrowed George’s Futurama 111. Coming from Scouseland, I saw them many times. That Futurama was used extensively on some tracks later on. I still have mine.
You guys make me proud!! I’m 65 and I have been listening to them since I was 4 years old and learning how to play music since I was 6 . Then learning & performing their music since I was 14 years old !
I earlier I said you guys make me it’s because of folks your age are keeping this great music alive!!🥁🎸🎶😎
My wife isn’t crazy about the Beatles either. There’s a few songs that she likes, but for the most part I drive her insane with my Beatles music. I’ve been listening to them since SGT Pepper came out, and I still don’t get tired of them.
I’ve only watched the first 60 seconds so far and im blown away by the editing/video production. Amazing job! Been waiting for this episode! Literally the only podcast I care about. Thank you for all the work and care you guys put in. 🙏🤘🏻
Another fantastic forensic analysis! I loved hearing the electric piano revelation from the original acetate, hadn't heard that before. Help! is such a fabulous turning point in their catalog; all of their youthful charm with hints of the studio experimentation that would define their latter career.
Glad you enjoyed it! "Help!" is absolutely 1000% underrated. Peak Beatles.
I'd say peak early phase Beatles. Very pure joyful songwriting and performing. But it only got better from here!
5:15 I would about guarantee that George Martin was aware that Paul could play a little on the piano before the 'Beatles For Sale' album in late 1964. I don't believe he would have been surprised. Paul and John were both writing on piano in 1963. There were a couple pianos in the studio, so they both probably played around on those pianos before ever playing one on a track.
This video is so well produced
Great work lads. There is a school of thought that says You're Going to Lose That Girl represents the last song that would fit on any of their previous 4 albums. I agree. It checks all the early Lennon/McCartney boxes. Lennon owning the song. Vintage McCartney/Harrison call-response harmony vocals. Like She Loves You, it adds a third person element to the storytelling. John's soaring falsetto, a boy-girl theme and more All in 2 minutes and 19 seconds. RNB
at 70 yrs old, I thank you all. There is so much analysis on these guys one is amazed and surprised every time we turn a corner. keep it up please.
Best Beatles podcast! I could watch a new video every day!
THE BOYS ARE BACK!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Gentlemen (warning: standard and way overdone "I'm an old geezer" intro forthcoming), as somebody who was very young in the '60s and remembers looking at his older sister's White Album poster while listening to "Back in the U.S.S.R." for the first time, then rediscovered the Beatles and became a forever fanatic at age 12 (in 1974), I absolutely LOVED this video. LOVED it! It's not only oddly satisfying to see succeeding generations "discover" this band (and by that, I mean actually listen to the catalog and find out what melodic geniuses and fine singers they were; my philosophy has always been that there's no reason why young people of every generation can't enjoy their music the same way I did), but videos (and channels) like yours give incredible new depth to their music and to listeners like me, who've heard these songs a thousand times, still LOVE them, and yet thanks to you, can hear them in whole new and exciting ways. You can't understand how rich your content is to an old fanatic like me because you haven't been listening to these songs for 50+ years the same old way, but the new elements that you uncover are supremely fascinating to me. Until this new generation of musicians and technologists came along, Beatles music was a one-and-done affair. Now, we get to explore the magic underpinning these masterpieces. "You're Gonna Lose That Girl" is one of my absolute favorites of theirs. NEVER gets old. Phenomenal melody, beautiful harmonies, criminally underproduced (but they had time constraints, obviously). THANK YOU for this video!
Yep, agreed. As a longstanding Beatles fanatic, seeing (and hearing) their audio output being laid on the slab and forensically "post-mortemed" in this manner is very satisfying and definitely enhances one's appreciation and understanding of how these guys were able to capture "lightning in a bottle" so frequently and consistently. So much so, that as a hobbyist musician myself.....the one big takeaway I derive from this is that.....at the writing and recording stage, it's so important to "stay loose" and trust your own harmonic instincts whether they're expressing themselves in an "orthodox" manner or not. I've messed around and experimented with this principle with The Beatles as my inspirational muse and the upshot is that when you're writing, composing....and to some extent, even when you're mixing and mastering.....you should do it with such an air of confidence that some of what you're doing might possibly "baffle" or "mystify" anybody who takes it upon themselves to try and replicate or deconstruct your work. I call this principle "performer's privilege" and The Beatles definitely obviated THEIR attitude and philosophy towards this in spades. What obviously mattered to them the most, was that that FINAL audio representation of any given track they were working on, and so long as it passed muster with their own (and George Martin's) sensibilities, they were confident that it could then be released to "the world" as I finished article.
Was it all "perfect" and never underworked? Probably not.....but it was always "good enough" because their musicianship was sufficiently honed to carry it....and they KNEW IT.
Another fab episode fellas. My personal fave song from my fave album. I believe that when they performed the said song within the film - it set a precedent for future 'music videos'. Your collective deep-dives are always wonderfully insightful - and fun to watch.
stay off the lsd bro 🙏 you've been gaslit. i was too. . you won't find a bigger beatles fan than me.
I actually still prefer the USA Help! soundtrack. I hated the film music as a kid but now I love it! Plus it has the "James Bond intro" to the title song - - and all that Capitol compression and reverb!
Great work guys. In a way it's funny to see people that weren't even born at that time to care about what happened then, but I'm glad you guys are on it.
Wow...Massive increase in production values! Inserted videos, graphics, audio clips, etc. Ryan is back off the couch. Best episode ever. Congratulations to whoever is doing the editing. Keep 'em coming, fellas.
Just discovered this channel. First time I have heard these isolated tracks, different solo for the song and review of the keyboard songs. Great stuff. I couldn't subscribe fast enough. My new fave YT channel - can't wait to catch up on your other vids. Thanks, guys!
GREAT show, guys!!!
I'm now 69, so I was about nine years old when the Beatles first came to the US on the famous Ed Sullivan Show, and caused all of us - (guys and gals) to go crazy over them, because of their unique sound, their great looks, and of course - their guitars!! My bass player friend and I always drew endless pics of the Rics, and of course were absolutely amazed with George's 360/12.
At the end of your wonderful and most revealing commentary and discussion here - I must agree with all of you, wholeheartedly - with your feelings about "Your Gonna Lose That Girl".
In exactly the same way you young lads described - that particularly great number was a very memorable 'grabber' number for me as well. Very nice beat and tempo, great lyrics, fabulous transitions from majors to minors and back, great 'bridges', etc.
Just a very good, very catchy, very likeable, 'different' number from their other great songs, as well as hits from other bands and performers. I myself, often told others that it was one of my favorite songs of the Beatles - along with "I Should Have Known Better" and "Tell Me Why".
In the wonderfully conceived and produced "Hard Day's Night" film - I feel I had the same feelings as perhaps George Martin and Richard Lester obviously had about the two most memorable new numbers chosen for the beginning and ending songs of the film - "I Should Have Known Better" and "Tell Me Why". Let me explain.
The first number performed by the Beatles in the film - had to obviously be very 'catchy' and of course - a real 'grabber' and 'holder' of the audience, early on. For me, as well as I'm sure many others my age - I felt this was such a great choice because it was the first time a US audience got to see George's instantly famous Rickenbacker 12 string guitar!! Everyone was so thrilled with both the unique sound and beautiful looks of the guitar, that many hoped and dreamed they might someday own one!! The song was also extremely likeable - both in lyrics, tempo, and the music itself, and featured all the boys with great 'smiles'.
Once again - at the end of the movie, showcasing a wonderful 'finale' of the Beatles great songs, it was very necessary to have a very powerful 'grabber' to lead off those songs....
I feel "Tell Me Why" was the perfect choice because of its very exciting and punchy 'drum roll' start, and again - because it was so new and fresh, and very well written, both in lyrics and the music itself, with added bonus of seeing John at his very best - both vocally and visually, really holding the screaming girls and very thrilled guys in the audience - in the palm of his hands, especially the way we see him use his body movements very confidently and seductively, to accentuate and enhance - his already enormous stage presence and magnetism. So tragic and sad - was his later, very frightening murder, but we once again - get to see some very wonderful and most memorable - John Lennon 'smiles' . Re-watch the movie and I'm sure you'll all feel the same way.
In closing - I'm so happy and thrilled I came upon your video, and will be sure to view many more of your very insightful discussions and comments about the guitars, keyboards, and amps the Beatles and other famous bands such as the Beach Boys (the biggest rivals to the Beatles at the time) used both on stage and in the studio.
My Best Wishes and Thanks to all of you,
Greg from Massachusetts USA
*PS - Very importantly - Your great video here has given me the 'inspiration' to get my Ric 360/12C63, my Strats, and my Gretsch out of mothballs, and play them!!
I have the original Vox VT100 tube and solid state 2-12", amp, which can only 'model' the sound of all your VOX Super Beatle's and AC-30 amps, as well as many of the Fenders, so very excitingly displayed in the background of your video!!
44:19 This is a great observation. What's special about YGLTG though is that John uses the flat-7 chord to modulate to the bridge and back to the verse. The parallel between "..you're gonna (D) lose that girl" and "what else can l (F) do.." is what makes this song.
It's a nice progression ❤
Their "bridges to/from the bridge" are pure genius in song after song.
@@harveycan5820 spot on
I still think this is the best music video ever.
Can’t go wrong sticking the solo over the bathroom romp. 10/10 video gentlemen 🫡
You have to love George Martin and his studio notes. I’m convinced! Great episode.
Every time I listen to this song, I can’t help but say, “Boys, are you buzzing?” after it ends.
It was you buzzing, you naughty boy!
@ I’m pretty sure I know every line in that film by heart.
I often feel that isolated Beatles tracks sound abysmal by themselves, but in the final mix, it sounds just right. After all, it was the Beatles, in process of defining "just right" for all future rock/pop musicians.
Amazing video guys! I’ve never heard that acetate of the song, and I’ve never seen the George Martin notes of that song. I thought it was 100% Strat on the rhythm, but now I’m back to having absolutely no idea lol.
John sings the most beautiful note in Beatles history in this song.
It's the falsetto lose. It's so pure and lovely.
Good Morning All. I don’t know where to start on comments, this is just unbelievably great. I can’t imagine the amount of time and effort all of you have spent on being the musicians you are. Thank you so much for that and sharing with all of us. It’s beautiful to hear and listening to this episode as well as others always immediately places me in a great mood. Again, Thank you!
1:00 yessss the clip of Paul going crazy on his hofner from The Night Before 😮💨😮💨
0:49 😳 gear there and everywhere.
Actually, that clip is from them performing Another Girl.
@@magneto7930 I thought Another Girl was not played on that hill they're on.
Please break down how it’s possible that George survived that brutal face plant into the pavement when they are being chased in Hard Days Night.
Always wondered the same thing!
Ringo goes over too. It could have been the end before it had even begun.
@@brendanwalsh108 luckily that guy in the coat saw that and held back the crowd briefly until they'd gotten back up.
He’s got a hard skull, that man
George said the palms of his hands saved him, that he scraped the shit out of them having fallen like that. I believe that's in the anthology book.
Only 2 minutes in and so far this episode has had some of the best editing of almost any other vid to my knowledge
My vote is Strat on everything! (I am biased like George!)
I feel like the Beatles would love this show. I’m sure they wouldn’t even remember!! lol
Sam laying down serious knowledge in this episode!!! Props y’all!
Judging by Paul telling story how he got Casino because of Hendrix even tho he had it like 2 years before he came to UK is well… We might know even less as we do now. 😂
Gretsch Tennessean for the rhythm. Gretsch Country Gent for the solo.
Excellent work as always!
It never ceases to amaze me that you can get a situation where the Beatles are recording at EMI with George Martin using all the technology of the day….standing in front of the microphones ready to record….and they can still have instruments out of tune 🙂
I've always had this theory that the Beatles had their guitars in-tune with each other and their voices, but flatter than 440, but that the piano added later was 440. I tried making a mix where I removed the piano for a lot of it and the overall track sounds more in-tune to me. It's such a gorgeous song with all the overlapping vocals.
Wow! Just found your channel. Been listening to The Beatles since I was 4. My dad had a Philips turntable and amplifier ‘Hifi’ he bought in the ‘60s. As I showed an interest, he decided to show me how to use it rather than forbid me from going at it. With The Beatles, A Collection of Beatles Oldies and Let It Be were my diet for my first 6 years, till I was old enough to start buying my own records. Looking forward to checking out the rest of the video on the channel!
Really enjoyed this video, especially the final comments. Have always thought the Help album is underrated in the Beatles catalogue and you guys give good reasons why it's as good as it is. This song included.
Simplicity and brilliance at once ... One of their best songs ... ❤️
What Beatles song ISN'T?!
Great video - lots of excellent points made, and highly informative.
But can we talk for a moment about those backing vocals from Paul and George? It’s amazing how they were able to blend so well it almost creates a third voice.
Fun stuff guys! I bought most of the Beatles records when they came out. SO cool seeing this music embraced by each new generation (my kids love The Beatles, my grandkids now love The Beatles! …my dad was an old school Sinatra guy, and was a hard sell on The Beatles, but around 1970 I knew he finally “got it” when we could hear him singing Hey Jude in the shower one day! 😂). The Fabs were simply The Best. So glad I grew up back then, but so glad this amazing music bridges the generations. Carry on! I just subbed to your channel- good work kids! 🎉
Hi everyone loved this discussion.I’m convinced it’s a gretsch ..now having played guitar all my life and being old enough to have played in the cavern (the original) have also recorded in Abbey road ..remember they stuck everything though the Fairchild compressor..and also the different string length between fender and gretsch ..I rest my case ..I love your enthusiasm may the this channel became a huge success..
Thanks.
Amazing episode! The edits are getting really great and functional
Congrats for the editing! Seems a lot of work.
",no time for losers"
@@jesusislukeskywalker4294the only loser in the room is you
Very well produced - again 😊
So I’m typing this before watching it. I’ve been thinking for YEARS. That the solo is the Gretsch Country Gent. Lets see if im close haha
That’s exactly what I think, mainly cause it sounds exactly like the tone in roll over Beethoven
I want to see which amp they think was used, Vox or Fender!
Fantastic information, you guys are amazing, so much work involved, you must really love what you do .
As a Beatles freak, guitar player and song-writer, I can not tell you how much this channel feeds my need (others would say 'geekiness', but they just do not understand), to discuss and try to establish how The Fabs' tracks were recorded, who played what, and so on.
Many thanks.
In terms of the solo, I am with Michael - I am not convinced it is a Strat - partly because the sonic quality of the 'bad' solo is so inferior to the released take that it, quite literally, muddies the issue.
Man I been following for a while. Love your stuff. More bass videos please- what I wanted to say is what a jump in the video editing. Don’t know what you guys are doing different but the film clips + graphics + HQ Videos when you guys do the testing originally etc etc... Love to see it. Keep going lads
I appreciate your recreations. You all are amazing.
Always was my fave from Help, since 1965 when I saw the movie
One of my very favourite songs, not just Beatle songs.
I absolutely adore these videos.
Another awesome video guys. Much appreciate your work.
Another great episode guys. Always ready for the next.
Would you guys ever consider making an episode in more depth about the instruments/recording tech was used in get back? Not just the guitars, but the drums, organ, Rhodes keyboard, grand piano ect ect ect. Thanks again 🫡
I would like to say I could totally see John using George’s Tenne, and George being the cheeky fellow he is, picking up johns 325 for the solo. We do see him kind of pretend playing it in the Help movie.
It would be so interesting so see a video on No Reply! The mix is so messy it would be cool to see who's playing what!
A pleasing take I get from this is that the guitar really doesn't matter as much as we'd think it might.
Yeah I was shocked how close the Rickenabacker, Tennessean, and Squier Strat all sounded through my Vox AC100
Thanks, your videos are GOLD
I'll never understand why this song wasn't put out as a single. it would have been another #1.
The lead, I agree with you guys. You can hear the distinctive bell tune of the strat. The rythum has Gretch characteristics. I also agree with how much those Vox amplifiers color the tone. The tube mixing consoles that were used with Beatles had the ability to capture high end without adding harsh harmonics like some of todays mixers. Love your show and I to am still captivated by The Beatles and some of the styled guitars they used.
I thought Paul played Piano on Beatles For Sale, possibly on Every Little Thing. What I love about his playing on this song is that it’s like his playing on That Means A Lot, especially the bass notes.
I'm happy that you are backk guys, but don't get lose for 2 months again pleaseee 😭
My impression is that the rhythm guitar is the Rick 325. The intonation chord to chord sounds like a short scale instrument. Great episode gents !
I'm 71 yrs old, and was using a Tenny in the mid 60's. I think the solo is played on a Gretsch, rhythm on a Strat. That said- they were pretty enamored by the Fenders when they got them- so possibly both parts are played on Strats. Why they chose what they chose for the film does give pause slightly to the idea that they used other than what we saw onscreen. Secondly, my vote is for a 12th position kick on the solo. When you guys played it otherwise, there's more hesitation during the changes of positions. You needn't change the hand's position as much when starting at fret 12; it's easier and more fluid- as it sounds when GH plays it.
Keltner is fine but he is the definition of a studio drummer. Ringo has incredible feel and personality in his drums, in my eyes he’s one of the best drummers in history.
Im giving Little Child to Martin on piano...Martin just has a SOUND on piano😊
Excellent analysis, guys. I enjoyed it very much. And it sure sounds like a Strat to me.
They were a great band that came along at the right time, some easy chords, some more complex, but great music overall.
Not a “gearhead” or anything, but loved this video. First one I’ve seen from you guys and it was tremendous. Your editing is fantastic and discussion insightful. This is also one of the band’s most underrated songs.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! We’ve got plenty more underrated Beatles tunes to cover!
Wow, fantastic video on one of my favorites of theirs. True story: Going to work one morning many years ago, the local top 40 radio station had just played this song. The DJ started talking then said "that just sounded so good let's hear it again" or something to the effect and played it again. Definitely one of their gems that wasn't a hit.
26:16 Kinda surprised that there wasn't any more discussion on the Casino - without me knowing dates and pictures etc, just using my ears, that sounds like a strong contender for the solo. Thanks for the discussion though, interesting stuff
Another great episode fellas! I, like you, always assumed the scene in HELP! was an accurate portrayal of the actual recording. Love how you break it down and I'm right there with you all. Tenny and Strat. Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall and seen John playing George's guitar for that session. I lie...I'd love to have been a fly on the wall for all their sessions...but definitely this one as well 😉
Fantastic video!! I honestly think the Gretsch was used as the rhythm guitar, and I agree with Michael that there is still a possibility of the solo being played on the Gretsch, as seen in the Help! movie. I'd say that for the solo there is a 60% chance that it played on a Fender Sonic Blue 1961 Stratocaster and 40% chance that it was played on a 1962 Gretsch Tennessean.
Nerdy Beatle guys, love it. Watched the whole thing.
Just wanna say thanks for creating the playlists!!! You guys are amazing!!! 🤠👍
I liked this one the most yet!
Yet another legendary episode lads! Never knew about George Martin’s note on John using the Gretsch let alone the Tenny. I was definitely on the Strat train before the episode. Also was 50/50 on the Strat or the Tenny for the guitar used for the solo, but definitely now am 100% on the Strat. Can’t wait for the next one
Yes, the note is interesting. It strikes me that George M. would be unlikely to have made a casual mistake in noting that John played the Gretsch as it was so unusual. In fact its being unusual could well be why George made a specific note of it at all.
When listening to the album I always spin this one twice in a row
The solo must be the Gretsch because it has a distinct Filtertron sound like Roll Over Beethoven has. And I wonder if George broke a lot of strings? The attack on some of the notes sounds very aggressive.
agree
The solo sounds like there's some heavy compression emphasising the attack on it.
It's the tennessean!!!
The Tennessean had Hi-Lo-Tron pickups. The Country Gent had Filtertrons.
The amp matters, too!
You guys are amazing!
I remember reading that John stated in the early days he would always keep his b string slightly out so he could point out to mimi which guitar was his
Awesome video have a great weekend ❤😊
When you need the definitive lead guitar tone, it's pretty hard to beat a Strat!
My $0.02, one of the most often overlooked ‘guitar effects’ for Beatles’ guitars are the mics and mic preamps, they add a lot of character and natural compression.
An excellent review of the Beatles, I'm impressed with what's been researched 😊. Thanks Cheers, personally I think the dissonance is one of the ingredients ❤ Gretsch
I honestly don't know where to begin;
the sound captures that era like nothing
else. I remember watching a thunderstorm
parting while the radio played softly in the
background. The DJ announced he was about
to spin some new Beatles songs. It was fresh
but humid, and after the storm passed, the trees
released that distinctive, zesty ozone scent.
It's difficult for me to untangle the sounds from the
countless sensory memories of that day. I can still
feel the warm summer sunshine streaming through the
breaking clouds, pouring in through the open
window, and that was, what, six decades ago?
There's something strangely profound about
the Beatles and their lasting impact.
you could probably do a 5 hour pod cast with
just people relating their initial memories of when that
album enter their consciousness and their response. Sorry for not being a help.
This was another fascinating video from you guys.
Regarding which guitars were used, I always go back to how much of the sound lies in the players hands.
Give the same guitarist two or three guitars and it's going to sound very similar due to it being the same fingers doing the playing.
Keep up the good work.
👍😎
great show - first i have seen --i just kept thinking why not ask paul lol-really fun to watch for musicians and fans - you guys leave no stone unturned
Wish we could ask Paul! But actually we’ve interviewed someone recently who was able to ask Paul and George the same guitar question independently in 1968 about a song recorded only 3 years earlier and he got different answers from each of them. You really have to think of it as the equivalent of someone asking you what you ate for lunch on a random day in 2016
@5:05, Paul playing organ in Help! scene, if you listen closely to what he's playing, it's a 'baseball game organ' version of Please Please Me.
The tone for the solo matches the same tone for roll over Beethoven, so I think it’s gotta be the country gentleman
great intro! My favorite song!
This is some great stuff.
shewly you're not serious 😬
@@jesusislukeskywalker4294 blocked for harassment ❤
The solo is a strat. On the isolated track you play, you can here that distinctive twang.
Great vid!
Thanks!
I first noticed somebody talking about a 2nd burried rythm guitar when i watched ryan’s video not visible in this video. i always wondered where you would even hear it but just like sam and ryan’s description it was said verbally rather than being able to be heard.
Ryan here, I think my impression at the time was that there was a sort of more lower end guitar sound and a top end guitar sound which tonally must’ve sounded different enough to me that I thought there was an extra rhythm guitar just playing the lower strings. But when I did my test recording for this through my AC100, that lower sound just seemed to be there naturally in the recording so I’m confident that the rhythm is just one guitar again.