How To Talk To Air Traffic Control | ATC Radio Basics for Pilots
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- In this video we're going over the basics of talking to air traffic control that you'll need for your private pilot license. It's one of the most intimidating things for student pilots! We break it down to make it easy by taking you on a typical flight. From start to finish, we'll cover just about all the ATC communicating you'll need to do, and even cover what some of the stuff they say actually means!
Now, this is basic radio communications for VFR flight and geared towards the student pilot, rusty pilot, or the pilot who usually only fly's at uncontrolled fields. It can even be good for part 107 or for VATSIM! . BUT, it's the first in a new series we're making to cover just about EVERYTHING you need to know about talking to air traffic control. Scroll down to see links to our other videos.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Into
0:40 What ATC is all about
1:19 ATC Breakdown
1:50 How ATC Works
2:24 Outbound Procedures
2:50 5 W's of ATC
3:55 Confirming Instructions
4:55 Following Instructions
5:26 Frequency Change
6:33 Departure Options
8:49 Inbound Procedures
9:56 Inbound Options
11:22 Inbound Instructions
11:54 Last call
12:23 Radio Tips
13:33 Final Thoughts
Whoever disliked this was on the wrong frequency
Agreed. LOL
Love your comment lol!
Definitely
Nice shot!
I disliked this video. I already wasted 16 minutes watching another of his videos, where he didn't explain like a half of the terms used in his own examples. Here I stopped after 5 minutes, when I heard exactly the same basic informations again, and still no details. I'm done. I bet guy is payed by hour.
Air traffic controller here. All information in this video is absolutely spot on. I would highlight, if you are unfamiliar or unsure of what we want you to do, or even the layout of the airport, just let us know you are unfamiliar early in the transmission. It will switch us from our normal traffic bearing mode to a more focused, almost nurturing mode. Sometimes you will get controllers who will get frustrated. Just do your best to understand and comply with their instructions while letting them know what you don't understand. Also sticking to standard phraseology is best. a lot of the time we don't have much time for pleasantries sadly.
Thank you for sharing that, and it's great advice. I've told people that same thing over the years, but people are still worried and intimidated.
ATC. This is Julio from Brazil South. 2100ft. training for one day maybe bem a pilot. ATC
As a retired controller what James wrote is completely correct. When I'd go to pilot meetings I always stressed to CFI's to let the student talk on the radio so when the CFI is not in the plane the pilot won't be afraid to communicate with us. Quite often I'd get the ire of a few CFI's as if I was telling them how to instruct their students....LOL, couldn't be farther from the truth.
It was amazing how much easier it gets after you get the first few mistakes out of the way and realize that it's OK. You start to realize how simple it is. The fear just comes from the pressure you put on yourself. This is good. It means you care, and will end up being a good pilot.
Its SO true. Thanks for sharing the perspective.
Nice words
i don’t know why i found this reassuring, i have no flying hours and no experience in anything ATC related, but it sure was reassuring. lol
The fear for me comes from the speed At which I'm given instruction
Part 2: talking to ATC like a pro. Preface your initial contact with good morning, good afternoon, or good evening. It shows them you are on your game and know what time of day it is.
Good call. Accept I have a trade mark of saying good morning almost all day…. This isn’t going to end well.
Honestly if its busy we don't want to hear this. Just get to the point where you are. Nothing rude just sometimes we have a lot to say in a short amount of time.
As a controller in the NE corridor for 36 years (ZDC), I’d prefer standard phraseology. Plain words work best in emergencies. And please, stay off of 121.5 unless you have an emergency. You’d be surprised what some pilots do. The controller is ultimately responsible for frequency management. Being a good listener is better than a good speaker. Just don’t be nervous. If you practice your phraseology, you’ll be less nervous. Reverse read-backs are nice. above all - USE YOUR CALLSIGN - full callsign is best. A read-back without you aircraft ID is useless and does not count. We do not use voice recognition. Good video.
@@heavysighs thank you!! I’m a student pilot and haven’t talked to atc yet but was told by my cfi I had to start practicing. I’m watching every video and reading all the comments.
@@danieljones5843 You can do it. And after about 50 times, you’ll be so proud of yourself that you basically learned a new language! I used to practice out loud in my car, by talking to myself, as both ATC and the pilot. Good luck to you. Most important, remember to have fun.
Air traffic controller here. In my training, I've learned to know what I say before I speak up. That ensures there's no confusion on frequency and it helps pilots feel secure knowing their controller knows what he's doing. I think that's equally as important for pilots. While reading back initial instructions may be difficult for new pilots, know your intentions first, then call up. It'll help reduce congestion on frequency. Also, don't be too nervous and feel like ATC is going to attack you. I work in a very busy Delta. I'd rather be asked to repeat my instructions than have someone readback blindly and cause a conflict. If you don't understand, just ask. Your safety is our job.
Great video!
Thank you for sharing that! And as a pilot I appreciate it!
Great advice, thanks. I'm a student pilot operating from an uncontrolled field and my RT needs a lot of work. I have started practising in my car on the way to the airfield! My Instructor said the same, prepare what you are going to say, don't be afraid to use the word 'correction', and if in doubt ASK.
@@ajs1691 agreed, and no will get after you for getting it wrong. At least say it with confidence and it will make it easier for ATC to correct you
I'd be all right using a radio when i was about 18 years old many years ago mow I did a college work placement with the paramedics that's where Ifirst geard bout phonetic alphabet and its funny I've got very bad mental heslth issues working memory not great but I remember phonetic alphabet but when I had a go sith radio their control didn't understand me I didn't realise my accent was so strong when I now make a video on my mobile to help my care team know how my mental health is I cringe because it's a strong accent like he's said I was too eager to get it right anxious didn't realise then I was autistic and had a executive brain function disorder do would nevervfly or get anywhere near a plane but my sewing teacher at college said if you ever learn to drive and see her anywhere don't drop to give me a lift I'd be a nervous wreck before we arrived at our destination she said bear in mind this was just a sewing machine if I saw put your foot on pedal she said you do very shaky and cautious she said if I tell you to do it gently she said needle goes up and down at 90 mile an hour so imagine if I tried to learn to drive a car not a pretty site I think my first plan would have yo be life insurance pre arrange my funeral have lock down back so no traffic on road believe you mecif air passengers were already panicking when thed gad ne for ten minutes the fright would kill everyone
Not a pilot, not in training to be a pilot, but love the break down! Thanks for making it so simple! :)
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching Ross!
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I guess You and me are here for this one unlikely scenario when we have to land the plane because the pilot is unable to.
Same, I just enjoy listening to the protocolar convos.
A very good video. I think it's impressive how well it all works!
The air traffic controllers are impressive as well!
I have such a passion for avionics I absolutely feel like I NEED to fly, just found this channel gonna start learning while I save money to learn. Thank you thank you, very well done video I'm here to stay.
I'm a fresh student pilot and have yet to speak with ground/atc. Radio comms are something I have been intimidated to do but this video helped me ease my nerves and definitely broke it down in a way I could understand. I'd subscribe to your channel twice if I could. Thanks!!!
Glad it helped!!!
Great video, as always. Love learning how to talk over the radio , it reminds me of my job so it feels very familiar!
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for watching.
That’s a beautiful propeller on your wall.
I have one from my husband on my living room wall.
My husband loved that it’s 100% airworthy.
Outstanding! Just need to watch this 20 more times and maybe I'll feel comfortable. Love the channel.
Thats a lot of times. LOL. Checkout the playlist though. We have a LOT of videos on talking to ATC in all kinds of airspace. =)
Insightful and very helpful information, thank you for sharing, i loved the energy
Thanks! More coming soon!
Great Video. Can't wait for the follow-up video's. Thanks
Writing the next one now.
WOW! Thank you for pointing out how easy this gets as you go!
You are so welcome!
This was awesome, just did a discovery flight last weekend!
Pretty good brief explained procedure, really appreciated l am a simmer with vatsim network
I recently retired, and am just starting to go for my PPL to finish what I started in high school...yes, it was a long time ago! The biggest hurdle for me is understanding ATC. This video was fantastically helpful, so a big thank you!
We're glad it was able to help! Checkout our playlists over on the channel page, we have a lot of videos for different airspaces, as well as other tools to help.
Hi There Guys!! Tks for all your videos!! I’m getting ready for my check ride and I’ve learned a lot on this videos you guys make!! Blessings
Our pleasure! Good luck and let us know how it goes!
@@flywiththeguys definitely 👏🏻👏🏻
I can't imagine any way to improve this presentation. It is truly outstanding. Thank you.
Thank you for your kind words!
This is rock solid advice. What helped me get comfortable was getting a scanner and listening to ground, tower and then ATC. Really helped with solo work and my checkride.
Agreed. We recommend listening to liveatc.net and watching on Flightradar24. The delay for both is about the same, and you can hear and watch planes.
Hated towers when I was learning to fly in Minnesota. Avoided them completely for several years after getting my PPL. When Deer Valley became my home airport, I spent 3 days listening to the radio traffic just trying to figure out what I needed to say and do to be safe. This little video would have removed much anxiety all those 22 years ago Carl. Nice update to your original mega-video on ATC interaction. This is good for pilots that haven’t flown into a controlled airport in awhile also. Lots of those headed for Oshkosh soon.🤞🙏🙏🙏
DIdn't even think of that. for some its the only time they call up ATC. LOL
Complete opposite, I received my training near LAX. Thus I learned out the gate radio communications. And believe me there are plenty of controllers in the area.
Is MN ATC that bad? I'm going to learn to fly at either KFCM or KLVN.
Very good video and tips. Thank you very much for making it so simple. - Student Pilot from North East!
Glad it helped. Check out the channels playlist for all our ATC guides. We have a bunch, and some for each airspace.
Thank you so much for this great video, I have learned a lot form it, great explanation, presentation and simple to understand, good job, waiting for your following video's.
Thank you! Glad you got something out of it. =)
This is going to be a huge help as I begin my flight training this week!
Get the mobile phone app he mentions. It helps a ton!
Yes, get the plane english app. It helps A LOT. Info in the description on it, but we'll be doing a how to get good at them video this week! Good luck on your flight training!
Good 🤞
Cool, how’s it going so far man?
Correct, but missing something important, and that is that the flying is easy (yes, even takeoffs and landings) when everything is nominal. When a take off or landing isn't nominal you have to execute on your training and suddenly flying becomes very hard.
Obviously, training can never simulate the type of things that can go wrong, so get yourself a good simulator set up for home and use it to practice all the stuff that could likely kill you IRL and practice it over and over. This is a never ending thing. You should spend at least 2 hours a week in the sim with randomized failure conditions for the rest of your flying career. That is what will keep you alive (of course, you should still practice things like stalls and spins IRL, but the sim is great for all sorts of rando. engine and airframe anomalies).
I'm studying everything I can about piloting for a script I'm writing, so this is going to really come in handy. Thanks!
Good luck!
When I was getting ready to learn to fly, I had a radio that I could listen to ATC at Palm Beach International air port early in the morning when I was getting ready for work. It realty helped.
I used to listen at our observation deck. It does help, especially if you know the basics. Helps you understand whats going on.
Thank you! I'm getting VATSIM ready.
This video helps in there too!
I always picked up the instruments right away. Trust them and would rather use them even though I'm not a pilot. I have flown with fellow works who would let me fly for an hour with no problems. I just can't get the hang of ATC. It just blows my mind and it's always like listening to an auctioneer.This is the only explanation I have ever hear and it makes sense. Not I'm only 75% confused I believe I could fly by instrument because I don't like to trust my eyes. Been a gps junkie for over 20+ years. Always trust the off road direction and altimeter. I have also flown in a trainer plane with the joysticks. That was different. Thanks so much. want to learn more and better. 😁😁
My lord, this comment section is purely positive vibes. After scrolling for a while, still haven't seen a single remotely negative comment. That's how I like to see it! But honestly, with a really good video like this it should be positive.
=) Thanks for your kind comment!
THANK YOU SO MUCH
Controller here. This is a great information. 👍🏾
I have communication with pilots, I mean ground to flightdeck communication. Amazing to speak and understand those words you mentioned in this video. Really good thing to get knowledge.
That is awesome!
Your vlog helps a lot. My only child is in grade 8 and he needs this inspiration 'coz he is dreaming to work as ATC since he is a young lad. He loves what you shared here sir , thanks
-from the Philippines Jared C. Arroyo
couldn't stop from subscribing ❤ Amazing.
Thank you! And welcome. =)
I'm learning to fly at an uncontrolled airport. Thanks for the video, its a good starting point and supplement to my online ground school
Glad it helped!
Thank you sooooo very much for this awesome video. This video is something I refer to every now and then as a refresher. Forget being a pilot.... you need to be a teacher because...well..... your a great one!!!! Kudos again on the great video!!!!!!!!!!!
We're glad it helps! And thank you for your kind comment! We're working towards more education too. =)
I can finally play VATSIM, thank so much for making this BANGER video
No problem!
Lots of useful information in here, thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching. =)
did my first request for vfr flight following today, this series should help me thankyou
Nice. Last time I asked for FF I told phoenix where I was and they were confused. They had me IDENT and said "Oh your 30 NM north of us" I shook my head because thats what I had told them 3 times already.
Thank you! This is the part that intimidates me hahaha
Been working in military flight sim for ages, but incorporating ATC is very new in sims and I know nothing about it. I'm a test engineer so I need to develop test procedures to confirm the AI is doing what it should. Thanks for the break down - I can tell I'll be watching a lot of your videos over the coming months. Thanks!
Welcome to the channel. Also, check out pilotedge. They offer real ATC for sims.
All new pilots should see this. Great video folks.
We agree! It's a great little lesson to start off with! Or a good refresher. =)
the video is really dopppe
although im still a high school student, i started to listen to the atc radio and im really into this now. i can finally understand what they are talking about.
ur video helps me a lot.
thanks mate
u slay me, u really do🔥
Glad you enjoy it!
I like to say..
“Hey tower! Guess who… and you’re never gonna guess where I am.”
Or my second favorite…. “Knock, Knock..”
You'll like this then.... - instagram.com/p/CDACxa0Br95/?
Hahahahaha!
Wow. This is a fantastic video! Subscribed.
Welcome aboard! Thanks for your comment too!
I worked in Airfield operations and I must admit this video is wonderful.
Thank you very much!
excellent presentation, very helpful...!
Glad it helped!
I just took my first discovery flight earlier today at my local Class D airport, won't be another 2 years at least until I can get my license but this will absolutely be helpful. Thank you so much, watching from STX
No problem and good luck on your aviation journey!
I’m looking to become a pilot and this video really helped! Thanks! 🙏🏼
Glad I could help!
This is the best video on the topic.
If you still don’t know what to do. Just rewatch the video again
Agreed. We actually have a whole playlist for all classes too. Accept A... I need to do that one. =)
Excellent briefing good content
JR
Thank you! Hopefully it helped!
This is cool. I don't fly and have no desire to fly--even as a passenger--but the pilot-ATC chatter is fascinating. Thanks for helping me demystify it.
No problem!
Useful video for student pilots, good job!
Yesterday I passed my checkride from second attempt (first time my short and soft field landings was not good).
Your channel really helps people, thank you.
Congratulations! And thanks for your kind words. That's exactly what we try to do around here.
I absolutely love the breakdown of this type of communication. My dad is a pilot who primarily flies Cessna's and it always boggled me what he was saying. I always wish I could become a pilot too, but it seems like it costs a lot of money.
A good local flight school can get you to your privat license under 12k. But that doesnt make sense unless you own a plane via family since its expensive to rent. Im starting training with the next week but i plan to go through private all the way to instrument certified instructor so i can actually make money off of it. Otherwise its a rich mans hobby
Check the channel page for tips on getting your license. There are ways to get it cheaper. I was able to get mine for around 5000. I'll agree it's expensive though. Now that we're rebuilding a plane on the channel, I can attest to just how expensive it really is!
YOU ARE THE BEST. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Will do! Thanks for watching!
This was so informative. Thank you for this video
Glad it was helpful!
Started flying in Microsoft Flight Simulator. This makes so much more sense now! Thanks!
Glad it helped!
Thank you for teaching me cqz
This was great as I commence my flight school training.
Great! Glad it helped.
So many things to say here:
01) I really appreciate this and all of your videos. Talking with ATC is my current struggle in Instrument training. This helps tremendously, so thank you.
02) I used to live in Phoenix, near Peoria. If I had a nickel for every time I drove past Deer Valley, I'd be rich. I miss it out west.
03) I am SO GLAD you pronounced "Prescott, AZ" as "PRESS-cot." When I lived in PHX there were so many people insisting is was pronounced "press-KITT," and I basically told them I would never be pronouncing it like that myself, and people would just have to deal with that. haha
Probably stems from my brother named Scott. =) Glad you're enjoying the videos!
Did you notice my mistakes!? I got in a bad habit of shortening my call sign when closing my communications before ATC did. Never really been called out for it because I always started with my full call sign, but that doesn't make it right. I even say in the video don't do it, but then I did... Regardless, some of you guys are noticing and calling me out for it. NICE CATCH! Even though I don't like making mistakes, especially in videos that are meant to help people, it's good for everyone in the long run. I'm not going to get into the why, or give excuses, but I have changed my ways since this video. Be better than me guys and fly safe!
LOVE this video. SO helpful, my goodness I am a student pilot and so intimidated by ATC. It is the scariest part of being a student pilot for me.
Also, at 11:23 that bolt really be wiggling!!
I saw that when I was editing it. It's been fixed since! Well... we've gotten a whole new cowling since.
I started to learn to fly in 2018 after I retired. It was something I had wanted to do all my life but I just could not get a handle on radio coms. Eventually, it turned something that was great fun into a whole bucket of stress, so I stopped flying after 34 hours and 70-odd landings. I fly out of Van Nuys, a very busy Class D near Los Angeles. If you can master the radio there, you can fly anywhere! Flying is sublime! I can't wait to get back in the air. This time, I will work on managing the stress, even if it means that I become a perpetual student.
We made a follow up video to that where we talk about PlaneEnglish. Check it out, it really helps! - ruclips.net/video/zLPfat0dMvI/видео.html
@@flywiththeguys I checked it out and it looks great. Just what I need!
I’m about to start training out of Torrance, I feel you
This was really really helpful!
GOOD! And thanks for joining us over on Patreon!
Excellent refresher!
Thanks!
I’m not a pilot but I work at a major international airport and I need radio training to cross movement areas this was a big help thanks !
Glad it helps! Thanks for watching!
Great job!
Wow I like that , I learned a lot from you. Thanks
No problem. Glad it helped!
Wow! Awesome video!
I'm a native Arizonan in Glendale that's been a lifelong aeronautics enthusiast and has always wanted to learn how to "speak pilot" (as a hobby for now...maybe consider becoming an ATC someday), and this helped me!
Very cool! Good luck in all that!
Love it - very helpful, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I worked at DVT ATCT in the eighties when the tower was on the south side of the field. The new tower really looks nice. Hope the air conditioner works better in that one.
LOL. It does. I've been up there a few times. Nice location, and i've seen pictures of that old tower, they were in the restaurant before it closed down.
Well done. Good explanation. Very Helpful
Glad it helped!
Clear and precise ❤️
Thats what we were going for! Thanks for watching. =)
Awesome!!! I loved the tips
Hope it helps!
This was REALLY useful! Many thanks!
No problem! I'm glad it helped!!!
Wow this is so helpful! Thank you so much for doing such a video
No problem. Glad it helped.
@@flywiththeguys I started working on my PPL and I have been so intimidated by talking on the radio
@@timypaul Got ya. Checkout the channel pages playlists. We have a whole section dedicated to all things radio. BIG help to a lot of people.
@@flywiththeguys fantastic thanks man. I appreciate the value of your content.
@@flywiththeguys The bought The PE/ARSim on Ipad one of the best tools for student Pilots. Thank you FWTG team! I am greatly improving my Radio communication skills and sounding more and more confident while I had no idea what I was doing in my first lessons haha!
Great.... Keep up the good work
I will try my best. Hopefully this video helped!
So helpful! Thanks a ton mate!
Glad it helped!
Thanks for useful info , well done
No problem. Glad it helped!
Super helpful! Thanks!!
Glad it was helpful!
I'm looking into flight schools now and the hardest part of radio traffic for me is going to be separating different SOPs. I'm a HAM operator and LEO so using the radio doesn't bother me. But there's different operating procedures for each and I can see myself getting them confused. I already get standard NATO and police phonetics mixed up at work and in my ham shack and occasionally sound like a goofball lol!
I can hear myself accidentally using ten-codes during flight... 🙄😂
"Hey Deer valley ground, I'm a Cessna!" 😂
LoL. We’ll, check out our channel page. We have a great video on how to pick a flight school. LOTS of good information in there.
Thank you very much !
No worries! Hopefully it helped!
Great video! Thanks 👍
Thank you too!
Just an anectdote regarding what you said at 9:58... Way back in 1987 I was working on my PPL. I don't remember the exact circumstances other than the rough outlines because its been so long. I was in a Cessna 152, N25324 to be precise. A huge C5 Galaxy was using the runway for what I guess was training, because the runways were too short for a C5 at the Waco regional airport. I was given instructions to climb above and go around as the C5 made its approach. I ended up flying directly over the C5 as it made its pass over the runway to depart the area. It was just mind boggling to look down out of the window of my tiny little C152 and there's this massive cargo jet directly beneath me.
Much appreciated! 👍🏻
No Problem!
GREAT and AWESOME thx for that buddy
No problem 👍
Went flying with a good friend that owns a plane. Listening to the radio transmissions during takeoff, landing, and taxi process really confused me and was intimidating. Watching this video confirmed to me I'm not pilot material. Great information though- thanks for posting!
No problem! Thanks for watching it. =)
Thank you for the video! I would love to learn how to fly, but talking on the radios seems intimidating. Now that you broke it down for us, I would feel more comfortable
You can do it! Its a lot easier once you understand whats going on.
Amazing content
Thank you!
Excellent instructions!
Thanks! I hope they help!
Flight service station specialist here. Everything is presented great. One more tip as a pilot and working on the other side of the communication end. The initial contact is better when the pilot just states the call sign and nothing more. Some controllers might be working multiple frequencies and other aircraft that you can’t hear. Sometimes if you give the 5w’s on the initial, it can be information overload when handling other aircraft. After the initial contact is established, you should have the full attention of controller or flight service person. Then apply the rest of the w’s. All in all I think the video was great and should be helpful for fellow aviators.
I think this depends on a lot of factors. In busy airspace some controllers appreciate it when you spit out as much info as you can in one transmission so they can give you instructions and move on. They don’t always have time to play 20 questions. That being said, some also appreciate doing it like you’ve mentioned. It just depends. I think pilots will eventually get to know the habits of the controllers in the airspace they frequent. Find out what they like, take some tours and ask questions!
Thanks for the comment Brian, and you're totally right! Thats how I contact a FSS as well. And Murph is right to! Our airfield is an up front kind of place, but I know the class bravo by me like GA to do what you said. This video was meant to be more of a peptalk to student pilots and guys getting back in the air, but I really should make one on other types of communication. I love hearing comments from the other side so seriously, thank you for the comment!
So helpful. I am not flying a real plane but just play msfs but it's still useful and cool
Glad to hear it!
Was in the Army NG at Papago AAF and was the Observer on OH-58 and did the majority of the radio calls. Sky Harbor to get and out of Papago. Deer Valley when we were practicing autorotations. Liked the military towers the best. Not as busy and better radios.
Deer Valley hasn't rebounded since COVID. Its much more pleasant to fly out of there now. =)
Excellent! Thank!
You bet!
Great video. Only different thing my CFI told me was on initial connect to ground before take off, and on initial contact to tower coming in, just say, "xxx ground, Skyhawk xxxx." ATC might be too busy to take down your full request. Now, I did my training in class delta, and could just have been the preference of my local ATC as well. But at times it seems like it was busier than LaGuardia. I was once once fifth for takeoff!
I've talked with our controllers back when things were crazy at Deer Valley. At that time we were #18 busiest airport in the nation based off operations. Literally 1200+ per day. Here's what they told me, they prefer you say everything at once on initial contact.
The problem with how your instructor taught you is it actually takes more of the controllers time communicating back and forth. Now if there really busy and miss your call for some reason, they'll just ask you to say again. BUT, they're great multitaskers and masters of coordination. I've only had a few times in all my flying they didn't catch me on the first call, no matter what D or C airport I fly to.
Now, what your instructor taught you isn't wrong. It's just one of many ways to do the same thing. However, I do that when I'm contacting class bravo controllers for transition or landing. They're just as busy, but they're giving priority to jet traffic. I could give it all up front, but once I say Cessna or piper to them, they know I'm slow moving traffic and have time to finish other calls before getting back to me. But thats the only time I contact initially with only the first 2 W's.
OH! And I hear you on the #5 for take off thing. We have a north and south runway. The south runway was the crazy one. I've got pictures of 15+ planes waiting to take off, and I've been cleared #6 to land many a times.
@@flywiththeguys Thanks for the great reply! I'm only at about 120 hours and still learning. We do have a great ATC crew at KLNS.
Good one, thank you
No problem! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the easy method, Appreciate mate 👌👌👌👏👆😘
No problem!
I suggest watching Pilot Emilie's video on this similar topic! How she also takes brief notes on ATC instructions is really helpful! (she's a Q400 pilot)
I've seen that one! We've also got videos specific to each airspace. =) Dedicated video to taking down clearances soon!
Cool, thanks. Always wondered what they are talking about
Our pleasure!