How we FAILED Victoria Justice
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- Опубликовано: 6 янв 2024
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Today we will be talking about Nickelodeon's teen icon, Victoria Justice, whom hasn't been talked about in the media lately. We will be discussing what happened to her career and what might have caused her downfall in the industry.
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What are your thoughts/opinions on Victoria Justice and this situation?
I think that she deserves a huge public apology, we did in fact fail her and misjudge her completely. Justice for Victoria Justice please !!
You said it all, I’ve always loved her in the series and outside, I was never part of the hate she got because I found it unnecessary and immature. I mean they all can sing, they all have different voice and different lives. She got so many unnecessary hate that I felt bad for her, I feel like consoling her sometimes and she’s beautiful. She looks like Elena in vampire diaries
She has a lot of movies recently
She was in movie with Noah Schnapp.
I actually heard rumors on a other yt saying she was black mail by mr creepy man cause she dindt 😴 w him and Ariana did, jen reveled that in the book taht jade did also w now her husband when she was a minor and me creepy man also tried it in her.
Her music might have flopped but at least she didn’t sleep with a married man who just had a baby and felt zero shame about it
👀👀👀 this!!
She still got with him after she knew the wife and actually knew the baby. @@patriciathearianator
or lick donuts, be besties with Colleen, and divorce a man almost as quick as she got married
Keep crying. Ari still tops charts
doesn't stop her from being a homewrecker. You keep defending her, I hope somebody does to you what she has done to other women someday@@Babezilla
LITERALLY IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR SO LONG. she said “i think we all sing” because liz was like “ariana u sing a lot” and ari was like “i think liz sings a lot!!” so she would end the playful arguing 😭 the internet owes her an apology
Yikes it's not even bad, not even in the slightest!
And she was right! They all could sing pretty well
Honestly idk how people struggle to see that
@@alannahfidler2449 cause people who like Ariana LOVE to hate Victoria
Yeah I never understood the hate she got for that. I would have responded the same way because she's not wrong, they all did sing. The arguing back and forth between Liz and Ariana was getting tiring, so she playfully shut it down...and everyone took that and ran with it as if she was a bitter individual.
She does still act I saw her Netflix films go no.1 for a couple of weeks . And she is an independent artist really having an overall mature sound . She was really done dirty
I love Victoria Justice so much 💕🤩
Oh I love that for her! And I haven’t seen any of her recent projects but I should def check that out. ✨
low key cried in that After Life Party netflix movie . I was waitin for a cringy movie but it was pretty touching in some scenes
@@hanaadany I need to watch that!! I’m always procrastinating when it comes to shows & movies, but I’ll watch that soon.
@@KeliforniamediaSame goes with Jennette McCurdy (heck, even in 2010s parodies like Bart Baker’s parody of “Love Me Harder” by Ariana Grande & The Weeknd and “MEAN QUEENS - Ariana and Friends | S2: Episode 7” by PopToonsTV, while Jamie Lynn Spears was unfortunately portrayed as a good guy, Victoria Justice was portrayed as “Victoria Buttsniff” and the even more overhated Jennette was “Jennette McDirty” which is why we’d also recommend you make “I Think We ALL Owe Jennette McCurdy an Apology”. I heard that Victoria Justice joined in with the other girls to bully Alexa Nikolas alongside Jamie Lynn… but just as long as they’ve all matured and realized that Dan Schneider was a good-for-nothing child molester who always puts teen stereotypes in his shows thus making them even more wasted potential, even by Nickelodeon standards)
She didn’t sell out. One thing about Victoria is that you can call her many things, but you can’t call her a clout chaser. Victoria keeps to herself and shy’s away from the spotlight. If Victoria really wanted to get attention, nothing was stopping her from pulling a Miley. But she never did. It just wasn’t her. No offense to Ariana, but Ariana completely rebranded herself so much so that she was unrecognizable from how we met her in 2010 once 2014 came around. She started showing a lot of skin, singing very sexual and mature content…and that’s fine, but Victoria did not want to do that. And unfortunately, anyone who knows anything about the industry knows the pressure young girls are put under to be hyper sexual to sell records or to elevate their careers. Even to this day, Victoria is pretty modest. I think Victoria Justice ultimately decided that sacrificing her morals for fame wasn’t worth it. Bridgit Mendler, her peer over at Disney, also made the same decision. She left Hollywood and went to law school, leaving behind her career while it was at its peak. Victoria did the same. I remember Victoria saying she left Columbia Records due to creative differences, and honestly i think what she meant to say was that they wanted her to do things she wasn’t comfortable with. This is no secret. And it’s really unfortunate.
this!!!
Very well written!
This was very insightful - hope more people see this. I really agree
Well just to let you know….in terms of Ari revealing more skin, and being more “sexy” I hope you know that she’s not the same late teens-early 20 year old girl that we first met on the show. She’s a grown adult now, and that “innocent childlike” quality, though it would sell for tweens….she wanted to reach more teens and young adults. Plus, most people think of her to this day as Cat Valentine….she mainly rebranded herself because she didn’t want to be only known for that one character, because she’s not the character.
@@tiamarrow6366 I don't think that most people know ariana grande as cat valentine. Definitely most people know her, but people who aren't fans following her lifestyle wouldn't make that connection. Even if they watched the show back than.
Yes, she deserves an apology from the public. Just because she's beautiful doesn't give you a right to try to tear her down. And IF her and Ariana did have beef, it's none of y'all's business. On another note, I hate reboots, remakes, and most times even sequels, however I would really like the Victorious cast to come together and make a true final episode where they're adults with their own careers. Because the show did not have a proper final episode and it needs closure.
Yesss this! I would be interested to see if they could do a reboot for Victorious (without the involvement of Dan Schneider) like they did with ICarly . Just to see where they are in their careers & adult lives.
And I've got the perfect idea for a Victorious movie. It's long so I probably shouldn't write it here but if someone wants me to then tell me.
@@truthseeker9249 I don't mind if it's long. You've got me curious now, tell me
@@lisaearles4175 very well. Here it is:
First of all we would be seeing the whole gang reuniting with each other at Hollywood Arts 10 years after where we left off when Victorious ended.
Beck and Jade: We see the two of them hardly standing next to each other or even looking at each other. They still are constantly getting snippy with each other and making everyone else uncomfortable but it's not a full on screaming match like what we're used to with Beck and Jade. It's just awkward occasional little jabs at one another. Why? Because Beck and Jade are EX husband and wife. After the last time they got back together on Victorious, Beck and Jade made it all the way through high school together and maybe even all the way through college too (IF either or both of them even went to college). Their relationship never changed, they were still toxic af with each other. And at some point or another after high school (or college) they got MARRIED. Beck proposed to Jade and they got married thinking that taking that big step and making that commitment to each other would fix everything in their relationship, make everything better. But no. It only made everything worse. They were fighting even more about every little thing. Jade's toxic argumentative nature and Beck's apathy for Jade's feelings and determination to let other women be all over him were driving them apart just like before. But then Beck CHEATED (Beck never technically cheats on Jade in the show but it's clear that he's the cheating type and it's not that far off to assume he would do it in their marriage). He had a one night stand with another woman or even had an ongoing affair with another woman and Jade of course found out. Their relationship was already in shambles but Beck's infidelity was the nail in the coffin and they got a divorce. Luckily they have no children so everything goes by quickly and they cut contact. This reunion is the first time they've seen each other in years since they split. There's still animosity between them but whenever Jade's back is turned sometimes Beck is seen glancing at her every now and then.
Andre: Andre is living the high life. After everything he accomplished at Hollywood Arts he was getting flooded with offers from everywhere in the music industry. So as soon as he graduated, he signed with a record label and ran off into the sunset to make his dreams come true. He's the leader of his own band and performing all over the country, he's writing and producing his own music and even writing and producing for other artists as well. He felt incredibly guilty about leaving his Grandma to go off on his own for music but he was using the money he earned from his success to make sure she was all taken care of in his absence even though she still calls him all the time driving him crazy. Andre is living the perfect life as he got everything he ever wanted.
Tori: She went down a different path than Andre. With all that SHE accomplished at Hollywood Arts (especially performing at the Platinum Awards, that performance put her on the MAP), she was also getting flooded with offers from music labels, a lot of them wanted for her and Andre to come work for them TOGETHER as a TEAM because of how amazing they are together musically. But colleges were also trying to recruit Tori as well. The thing with Tori is that her entire journey throughout Victorious was her slowly gaining more confidence. Coming into her own as a performer and believing in herself to become the star she was always meant to be. But as much as she wanted to be famous and as happy as she would be to do it with her best friend...she couldn't do it. She realized that she still had a long way to go and she just wasn't ready for that life right now. So she chose to accept the offer for a full music scholarship to the college she liked the best. And if she really wanted to be famous down the line, fame wasn't going anywhere and it would be waiting for her as soon as she finished her education and got a little more experience. As she went through college she continued to perform small gigs like at weddings or at restaurants, etc. But all the while maintained her friendship with Andre despite the distance between them as he traveled all over America singing for adoring crowds. And every time he came back to town to perform he would always be sure to invite Tori to come on stage with him and his band as a guest so they could sing together like old times. When we see her at this reunion she and Andre excitedly catch up. Since she's graduated college she's now trying to find her footing on becoming a famous singer because she finally feels ready. But she of course can't seem to find her big break. She is by no means a loser. She's done a lot with her life since she graduated high school but she certainly feels like a loser because of how she's struggling. It almost makes her regret not choosing to take those offers to sign onto a label fresh out of high school like Andre did. She can't help but wonder what if.
Tori and Jade: Despite still having the same love-hate relationship as before they actually start talking during this reunion. Maybe even meeting up alone after the big get together to grab a drink. After emotional walls are broken down a bit by alcohol, they start opening up to each other on their hardships. Tori feeling bad for Jade with what Beck did to her and even apologizing for kissing him on her first day of school all those years ago. Something Jade never could have possibly expected. Tori expresses how she never truly believed Jade was a bad person, how she could always see right through her negativity and always knew she was a softie. She tells Jade she deserved better than Beck. Jade is taken aback by all of this but then returns the favor by reminding Tori of how she took Hollywood Arts by storm from the very beginning. Talking about some of Tori's most iconic moments performance-wise on Victorious. Expressing her long time jealousy of Tori for how she was always the whole package. She was talented, but she was also a kind-hearted person that everyone respected. So she kind of had it easy with making it as a performer because after all, part of being a performer is getting people to LIKE you which is not Jade's strong suit. She even genuinely apologizes for how she treated Tori. Tori did things wrong to Jade too but their whole rivalry started because Jade just decided to be mean to Tori for no reason. She tells Tori that if she could do so many amazing things as a scared girl with no idea what she was doing back then, she definitely shouldn't give up now. They share a small awkward smile. A switch flips and they start to connect with each other in a way they never had before.... 😳😳
And cut! 🎬
This is all I can think of for now but if anyone thinks this is good stuff and can maybe fill in some blanks for me let me know.
@@truthseeker9249 Where would Trina, Robbie, Cat, Sinjin and Sikowitz be after 10 years?
My heart really goes out to her while watching this video and I feel really bad. I always wondered why she was never hanging out with the rest but to think that its because she kept to her morals and didn't give in to peer pressure shows how she was the bravest, purest soul out of all of them...and what did she get for it? Hate and death threats. So undeserved.... Probably the reason she didn't get super famous like the rest is cause she wasn't willing to sell her soul... Ironically, Victoria Justice went through so much IN-JUSTICE!
her and Daniella
EXACTLY! Ariana literally does have one of the most beautiful voices,EVER. However, you still CANNOT get as famous as she is, and the career she has, without selling out. You have to eventually sell out, to make it high up,in ANY industry!😢
My thoughts exactly, I always thought she wasn’t mean ir shady (can’t say the later about Ariana sadly). Seeing Elizabeth dating an older guy, Ariana stealing boyfriends/husbands and they both kept silence about Dan Schneider I understand why Victoria was put aside.
@@clover6236 so sad but true…clearly Ariana and liz chose to keep the hush money, but you can see the abuse from Dan Schneider as teens, manifesting into their adult lives. They probably try their best to hide their brokenness, but at least Victoria is able to live in peace through being separated from it all
Y’all are so naive… if she was the outcast in victorious and known as a bully in Zoey 101 what makes you think she is not the problem??? Stop trying to victimize her you don’t even know these people it’s weird to say she had the purest soul when some of her ex co workers have said otherwise
Even Ariana has been defending Victoria the past few years. Just this past April Victoria said in an interview that Ariana texted her and they both agreed the whole situation was stupid. I'm glad she's still doing acting and releasing music.
I wanna say the initial "feud" was that Ariana was just sick of getting all the hate, so she replied with what she thought was the truth. Not really thinking how it'd affect the view on Victoria and her obviously feeling thrown under the bus by Ari.
Yeah they both were teenagers in the spotlight at the time. I’m sure Ariana didn’t intend on people to start a hate train after her askfm response. But I have seen Ariana supporting her new music and everything, I’m glad the two are on good terms! Sometimes “beef” is nonexistent between two parties, but more fueled by the fans.
The real cause of the fued was Dan Schneider, he likes blond targets like Jeanette McCurdy, Amanda Bynes, Jamie Lynn, etc. But he went for Victoria until he somehow couldn't get her, so he went for Arianna who was idk before he forced her becomes redheaded. Don't u think that's all weird no wonder those girls had an unexplainable fued.
Same with Drake nd Josh, Dan ruins the stars he gives big platforms like he accused Amanda then Jeanette then Arianna.
He made a show premises that pit Drake nd Josh against each other on social levels then emotional levels. Drake gets a girl who lies abt her age so he gets in trouble then Josh gets to baak in Dan's favor till Josh says ignorant things like Dan was nice to him so Dan couldn't have abused Jeanette.
Obviously Dan framed Drake by sending v that girl to him nd made Josh his yes man, Dan sews discord bc Dan is a predator
Im just curious to know if Ms. Ariana ever even apologized to Victoria, but it seems instead they both agreed that the beef was “stupid”, I bet that’s more convenient for Ariana rather than actually apologizing and taking responsibility for the consequences of her actions. I hope Ariana apologized and admitted that what she said got Victoria a lot of hate and potentially pushed her career further down the drain. Ariana supporting Victorias music doesn’t fool me, I don’t think Ariana was sorry then and I don’t think she’s sorry now.
Wait, am I missing something? Why was Ariana getting hate and what did she say that ruined Victoria’s music career? Is it that she said that Victorious got cancelled because Victoria wanted to focus on her music career? But that still doesn’t explain why Ariana was getting hate
@@foozalmirabi9589 Ariana was getting a lot of hate from fans when Sam & cat was announced because they believed that she was the reason the show ended. So I mentioned in my video how she responds to a fan on askfm alluding to the fact that the show ended due to one girl not wanting to continue & deciding to go on tour instead. That’s when people started the Victoria hate train.
What i dont understand is how come her character was hated but Miranda was beloved on Icarly. They were virtually the same character (perfect disney princess surrounded by nutjobs) so why is Tori a flop and not Carly? Is it because Carly had less characters to compete against? Genuinely interested yo hear from Carly lovers and Tori haters
Good point! They both kinda played the same character but I do feel like side characters are often valued more. Even when Miranda was in Drake & Josh she was a fan favorite, but in her own show Icarly I feel like Sam got fan favorite. It’s pretty funny how people love to choose the side characters over the main ones!
I even prefered Tori's character over Carly
i think it's very likely because people prefer the 'little shits' or bad kids, just like they preferred jade in victorious.@@Keliforniamedia
Misogyny/Pick me behavior from the fans. Tori did nothing wrong.
@sunnysodapop Probably because Carly was memorable, could be really funny, and had charisma. Tori too is a nice girl but people often think she is a bit too serious, bland, down to earth, and not unique like Carly.
I honestly don’t know why… we do this. Or at least y’all, because I never understood why people were coming for her if she showed every cast member equal appreciation and I think that when things get taken out of context like “I think we all sing” then it’s more of the culture wanting to pit people, especially women, against each other and destroy a relationship. That in ITSELF just shows how the world is built around a need of drama and conflict instead of just accepting that happy endings sometimes exist. And if happy endings DONT EXIST for us then why do we have to spread that to others?? It is what it is…
I always thought it was so immature and stupid
Not just anyone, usually women. People get so pressed when women… have opinions lol
Society has been doing this for so long. Society played a huge part in the breakdown of Britney Spears. Instead of sympathy, everyone piled on with jokes and ridicule. We all need to do better.
@@simpleplanfan011 she is my favorite star for years and i have been advocating for her because it’s crazy how public opinion can COMPLETELY destroy them and the relationships between them and their stars as well as their families. Sadly for Britney, her family was always this way and most of the celebrities never bothered to step up to the plate to defend her but that may have been a legal issue so…
Ariana could have shut it down, but she didn't directly do it...just stood there to watch the hate on her...nows she is getting it and will see how it feels.
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How is that Ariana fault?
Victoria really deserves an apology, the fact she was hated for the most ridiculous reason, and if she did have beef with Ariana, it wouldn't be anyone's business.
I grew up an arianator and it hurts me to say this but ig it is her true colours: she was shaming victoria, being a bitch to her,😞
Tori was actually my favorite character alongside trina on victorious
They wanted us to hate Trina so bad!! But she really was one of the best characters because she was so funny and entertaining. But Tori wasn’t one of my favs, but I definitely don’t agree with all the hate Victoria got. She definitely wasn’t the worst character I’ll say that!
This is honestly sad, I always saw her as someone who can become a superstar. Be a singer and a successful actress.
Maybe successful actress but i’m glad she wasn’t a successful singer, the music industry is evil, look at Ariana Grande, she is ruining her reputation and her life rn
@@NewHaven203ruining her reputation by staring in her dream role since she was a little girl? Dropping her new album after four years? PLS BE FR
A pretty good dancer too!
@@NewHaven203it is very evil
Yes, she was set up like Miley, had her own show that she was the main character of which also featured her voice, if they didn't cancel it she would've probably been big as Miley..
I think Victorious got cancelled because they didn‘t want to put more money behind it and wanted to lunch Sam and Cat as soon as possible. And Ariana wasn‘t an Angel either because if we‘re truthful she f***** over Jeanette big time with her not showing up for work because of her music career. I know she probably negotiated that in her contract that she could do this but still not so cool. As far as i know Avan did admit that he can‘t remember much of his Victorious days because he partied hard and was drunk a lot so if the whole cast did some of this things or the same like him then i can understand her why she wanted some distance from them because she‘s not about all the drinking, partying and other things. Because of this i respect her even more for not bending the knee.
I'm actually about to read Jennette's book soon so I will get all the details about her Sam & Cat/ICarly days! But definitely I feel like she distanced herself from them because of that reason. To me she seems to be one of the only normal, non-problematic child stars that kept her life private and didn't have any huge "scandals". It's unfair she was harassed for years for no reason!
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Y’all try to make Ariana seem like a devil when Jeanette herself admitted she was jealous of Ariana… if you actually read the book you would know Jeanette said they pinned them against each other she never had anything against Ariana as it wasn’t Ariana’s fault and she knows that but she was jealous. lol I feel like y’all were the Tori’s and Jeanette’s so y’all hate on the Ariana’s! Not her fault she’s more talented
Yeah when I heard that in the video Dan was making them so substances and made them drink just to make their characters come more alive. But they were all f*cking minors!!! Like omg Dan sneider is a true monster. Everything he did to those girls Ariana could have stood up for Victoria justice but she never did! I don't think she was sorry back then and I don't think she is sorry now because if she can take another woman's husband away from them and not feel one bit of remorse or shame for what she did to that poor woman! I mean the husband left his wife and she had just gave birth to his baby they were planning on making a family together! Then Ariana comes and f*cks him and then her response for doing what she did was "so and?" Or something like that idk if it's "and so?" Or "so and?" Either way it shows that Ariana doesn't give one f*ck about what she did to another woman that just had a baby with the husband! That's when a woman needs her husband the most and he goes and sleeps with Ariana. She literally destroyed that family and doesn't care. I may like her music but she has cheated on every guy she has been with. Ariana is not a good person at all! She's a nasty slut and took what she wanted just because she could. Ugh makes me sick 🤢🤢
Also they all failed Jennette McCurdy and Victoria justice and so many others. Victoria justice never deserved all the hate she got from the fans like it was not her fault that victorious was cancelled!!! It was a teen show anyway people need to move on and hopefully they have by now. But Victoria and Jennette deserved so much better than what they got. They all have trauma from that monster Dan sneider! It really pisses me off that he never got charged for what he put them all through. Because he should have been the damn system even failed them geez.... 💔
Victoria Justice is the prettiest girl that I've ever seen at that time... classic beauty with star quality.. she has the potential to be a successful actress.
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I acc preferred her voice to Arianas most of the time. It’s just a strong, calming voice and she didn’t have to do all the high pitched runs and riffs that Ariana does all the time (which does not suit every song)
@@zubieey Ariana's voice bothers me so much. It is NOT incredible as they say. She sounds like a mouse and the only reason you become crazy popular in the industry is when you sell your soul and Ariana is willing to be a home wrecker and to influence the kids of today with her raunchy music. You can tell she has mental issues with her eating disorder, she should get help.
Till this day I can’t understand why Ariana never spoke against all of the hate her fans were sending towards Victoria!! The level of online bullying Victoria had to deal with was unmatched!! The only explanation I have is that Ariana was jealous of her and was low key enjoying it… What goes around, comes around Ari??
Ariana is not obligated to say anything. Tori can defend herself
Ariana Grande spoke out tho, she told people to “shut the fuck up” when they used the “we ALL sing” meme, immediately after the bullying statement she came to the same magazine to make it clear she was NOT talking about Victoria and that she believed it was her responsibility to make the rumors stop, Victoria herself said that Ariana was texting her privately and apologizing for the hate she was receiving from her fans, as well as saying that she had no beef with Ariana and that she wishes her the best. Can you people stop pitting women against each other with your narratives even when both parties involved made it clear they are not beefing at all?
Why would Ariana be jealous of tori it’d literally be the other way around lol y’all delusional
@@Turtlelover8888does Ariana Grande knows you?
@@Babezilla This would be a response of a narcissist. Normal person has empathy and can’t stay calm seeing an innocent person bullied. Especially, if they’re doing it on your behalf.
She for sure as heck deserves an apology. No one deserves to go through that kind of mess.
The real villains are the ADULT producers who encouraged drinking, partying, bad behavior.. who pressure and abuse underage girls to make their own careers 😢
According to a blind item, sex, drugs, and alcohol were rampant on set. The cast was sleeping with each other and the crew to the point where you were afraid to open a closet door because you didn’t know if you would be walking in on someone. This tracks with what Jennette said, as well as, Avan posting a TikTok where he says he doesn’t remember any of Victorious because he was hungover all the time and Liz married a crew member. The item also said that Dan propositioned her to boost her career in exchange for sleeping with him. He said that he gave Ariana the same deal and she took it and, look what happened to her career, she’d be stupid not to take it. But Victoria refused because she knew of another girl on one of his shows who also took his offer and nothing happened to her career (it’s speculated she’s talking about Miranda Cosgrove since she too had a failed music career). Because she refused, he started drama on set to get the cast to hate her and blackballed her claiming she was difficult to work with.
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@hiidont ruclips.net/video/jKoCi1yVaoU/видео.htmlsi=DMyLMb0bZuqvLz5y and google blind item legitimacy is always sketchy but a lot of what Jennette wrote tracks
Basically she couldn't have a music career because she refused to sleep with a man who's 40 years older than her???? Does he have a brain in that big head of his? what was wrong with him????
The hate she recieved was always so dumb she didnt do anything to deserve that hate
I have always seen Victoria for the incredible person she is she has always been and I’m glad to see how everything is going for her now as she is absolutely living her best life. There was a time I did like Ariana Grande from back when she was on Victorious but she really turned out to be a rotten person, as she has gone out of her way when it comes to dating. Victoria never deserved any tolerance of negativity and hate she received in the past and as long as she is happy doing what she enjoys that’s all that matters.
Yeah as a huge Ariana fan, like I was here since her Osnapitzari days, it has disappointed me a lot her recent behavior!
I get your point with Ariana's dating but I don't think hating on another woman is the solution here
@@MatthewMrMy I’m not trying to sound like I’m hating, I mean part of me doesn’t have that much respect for her but I was only pointing out the facts was all. I know she’s a real big star and quite frankly I honestly had no idea that she would be this big that she is but I don’t like the choices she’s made over the years, you know? We’re all sinners and everyone makes mistakes but she should have known that her actions would cause so much trouble putting her in hot water and I really do hope she can get act together to better herself as a person.
@@MatthewMrMy I don’t think they meant it as hate because a lot of the stuff Victoria received over the years was real hate where people were just being bullies & calling her names & pointing out her flaws. But with the Ariana situation, it’s mostly her fans and the public calling her out and holding her accountable for her behavior and actions. It’s a difference between hate and holding your fav accountable.
@@Keliforniamedia exactly 💯
Ariana's reasoning of the solo tour doesn't even make sense. When has a tour ever gotten a show canceled lol, she was just salty Victoria chose to do it on her own, and made that up. There was no way she would have been able to do Victorious, Sam & Cat, while doing her music career. She definitely needed to do a better job to shut down those rumors, they were complete false. And the whole on-set bully rumors that she indirectly started when the magazine allegedly misinterpreted her talking about her experience. She would taking it to an instagram post, and made sure she cleared up Victoria's name, cuz that was two things she kinda put on Victoria that caused ALL this hate...needed to apologize and clear it up in the most public way
I agree-she definitely could’ve spoken up more than she did just because she understood how much power and influence she had over her fan base. She has spoken up several times but most times it felt like she just sat back while Victoria was getting dragged for years, and of course a lot of people found Ari as the more “talented” and likable one so they would side with her. Victoria got a lot of unwarranted hate for years.
@@Keliforniamedia yeah, it kinda felt Ariana used the love she got and hate Victoria got to her advantage and chose to be quiet until it was too late and she already got her success (she did say something on Tumblr, but I think this situation deserved more, the hate was BAD). She says things like stfu to fans now who say I think we all sing, but it just feels late…the damage has been done. I will say Cat was my favorite character in the show (especially season 1, she was so funny). I never noticed how great of a singer Ariana was until I went on her RUclips channel and was shocked. So I’m glad Ariana ended up blowing up how she did, but I think there was enough space for her and Victoria to gain success. I LOVE how Victoria’s voice works for pop music. Like the Victorious songs she sang only work in her voice like Begging On Your Knees, Best Friends Brother, etc., I don’t think it would’ve worked as well with Ariana singing lead or performing them. While Ariana’s voice is very angelic and just out of this world. I’m glad Ariana got her success, she deserves it. But there could’ve been a way to get there without inadvertently bringing Victoria down
@@Keliforniamedia I was wondering the same thing. Why didn’t Ariana say something earlier?
I was never a fan of Ariana Grande, and just learning more of the Tori-hate constantly ties back to her is just upsetting
I became a fan of Victoria Justice last year on September 17, 2023. I have just finished watching Victorious at the time and wondered about the abrupt ending and stumbled across all these rumors and how she was getting the short end of the stick from a lot of people. That made me want to check out her stuff and I became a fan, she absolutely deserves better. She's such a charismatic, positive, sweet person who's really talented, a singer, an actor, a dancer, can play multiple instruments, she writes some of her own songs, and just an overall great person that sends nothing but wholesome energy your way
That being said, I wouldn't worry too much about her, she seems to be enjoying life, based on her social media presence as a moderately famous celebrity nowadays, which is the dream life, if you ask me, to be able to do what you love and get paid for it without the overwhelming elements of fame, so there you go
i genuinely feel like Ariana held a grudge against Victoria because Victoria Justice got a show ABOUT SINGING while Ariana Grande got a show based off the ditzy character that she never liked and took it out on everyone, INCLUDING Janette McCurdy. Ariana Grande in all the videos with the cast of Victorious where they included Victoria Justice just seems like shes trying to villianize Victoria, and everyone was eating it up unfortunately. Ariana Grande is the one who OWES Victoria Justice an apology for the damage to her brand because Victoria honestly could've been way bigger than Ariana and Ariana was just afraid of not being #1
She became a meme for so long after this too. We really showed this girl no mercy.
I really do love her song "Treat Myself". I listen to it whenever my depression starts getting bad
Same!!!!! It really helped me in 2021
!!!!!!!!!
It is a good song
It shouldnt be the actors job to clear their name when a show os cancelled/ goes south.
The companies behind them should explain what happened
Poor victoria having to explain the same thing over and over again. Nick should be responsible for that. They should be the ones to explain y it was cancelled cuz now actors have that cancellation hurting their brand
I never understood why people thought it was her fault. She isn’t a Nickelodeon executive and the tour she went on was with Big Time Rush as their opener, so it wasn’t even a solo tour. But I agree the network should’ve explained or made a statement for sure.
Bc Dan nd nick were predators who let her get blamed bc she wouldn't sleep with Dan
Nickelodeon canceled the show because they were "going in a new direction". It's why they also canceled shows like "How To Rock", "Big Time Rush", "Supah Ninjas" & "House of Anubis". Said direction was to kiddier shows like "Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn" and "Breadwinners".
Ariana also should have made a statement that it wasn't Victoria who bullied her on set but no she kept her mouth shut
Nickelodeon does not care, in fact they've gone YEARS hiring pedos to work with children and said nothing. And when certain things were brought to light, they paid the pedos off "letting them go" and hoped everyone would ignore it
I feel like we should not just say she deserves better , but also actively listen to her music that she puts out to really show our support.
We 100% owe her an Apology!!
I see how she never was rude with Paparazzi nor to the people who are acussing her of being mean to her costars, Alexa and Ariana,
Pretty sure she matured, Everybody makes mistakes.
Victoria Justice deserved more than just an apology. She didn't deserve all of that hate towards her.
the victoria justice/ariana grande 'thing' is the reason i despise ariana & her fans. she's not a saint and her fans treat her like a god. she's done so many bad things (including ruining a family) and arianators just pretend the red flag is not there & hate on every single person who seems to have beef with their almighty goddess. that silly tweet RUINED vic's life and career and yet she's so mature about it!!!
She's already past a million subscribers; i think if this album she's been working on really pops, she'll earn a lot of respect from a wider audience who'll realize how good she is. Also, her fans seem to be more chill and levelheaded.
WAIT VICTORIA IS WORKING ON A DEBUT ALBUM AHHHHH I AM SEATED . DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE RELEASED ??
If Ariana never would've answered that question with so much unnecessary shade there wouldn't be a "beef" it shows then how much Ariana isn't a good person but it's interesting to see who she picks and chooses to tear down and even crazier that people around her allow it
I also think she did it on purpose. It was all planned to bring Victoria down.
It’s obvious that Ariana does have more range in her voice but in all honesty.. I prefer Victoria’s voice more. There’s something about Victoria’s voice that I love so much.
I just love her new music and I hope that she will get more recognition in the music industry.
I agree-her voice has a very smooth, clear quality to it. It sounds so good with the more mature r&b influences in her newer music
Nah 😂😂
I don't like Ariana grande's music because when she sings, her words come out kind of... idk... slurred? I can't understand what she's singing most of the time and I'm not a big fan of her tone. She is a great vocalist but her music isn't for me.
@mmichellekingjesus1 let's here you sing
I also prefer Victoria's tone. I think it's low and clear, dry and limpid at the same time, I don't know how to explain it. Ariana's voice is beautiful, but there's something special about Victoria's voice that hasn't been fully utilized.
It’s like high school. “Oh no one hangs out with her and she’s not popular so we should all hate her then” yuck
her song "I'm way too fucking nice" is actually so good, I love victoria she deserved sm better
Ariana’s tour excuse never made sense anyway. She went on tour with Big Time Rush, another Nickelodeon musical act… So if she was literally invited to go on tour by Nickelodeon, why would they turn around and punish her for accepting?
Justice for Victoria 😤
When ariana's makeup brand came out victoria commented on so many of her posts i think her most recent interaction was in 2022 when ariana posted a new photoshoot for rem beauty. Daniella and Victoria also interact with each other on instagram, and victoria commented on liz's wedding post so u can kinda see they all in good terms
She say we all sing' because they did all sing in the show and outside... Ppl just too dumb
The apology needs to come from the people especially Ariana fans
that won’t happen. They’re Ariana fans.
she actually handled the "i think we all sing" meme like a champ. i remember seeing her tweet about it and being like damn she handled it way better than i ever could lmao
i’m so glad me and my friends liked victoria justice and followed her for years. we grew up on victorious watching it since like 4th grade
She’s started putting out music again, and it’s getting little to no attention… it’s really sad. The music she’s been putting out is awesome and she deserves better!
I feel like this should also come into a conversation too but notice how many people are Ariana grande has actually pretty much tarnished in some shape or form somebody's career just so she'd make herself seem like the victim or can get attention to make herself look good. And it's usually when she has to work with someone else. Cuz I feel like we should talk about that cuz honestly Ariana grande has kind of done that to a few celebrities including Naya Rivera.
I was a huge Ariana fan since the very beginning but her behavior has always been disappointing and only recently are people starting to notice. I definitely would love to make a video to talk about it but I don’t want her hardcore fans to come for my throat. 😂💜
I think Dan taught her or groomed her so she became that way
you should just make it. who cares of the hardcore fans coming after you. Honest Boy youtuber makes so many videos and doesn’t care about fanbasss attacking him lol. He’s funny af too!
@@surmaster4618 he’s one of my favs, love him!!! I think we need more content creators like him not afraid to talk about problematic celebrities with cult like fan bases.
100% agreed with you lol. I think his subtle blunt yet subtle sarcastic tone just blows me away every time. I’m always dying even if he’s being serious about all his videos. I hope to see more of your videos! I love the synthwave intro you had as well. My type of music. What song was it? If you don’t mind 😝
I’ve side eyed Ariana since victorious ended for the way she treated victoria.
were you there ?
Were you@@cococole1569
I wonder if Victoria knew how the Nick producers exploit their main casts, from experience with Zoey 101. So she distanced herself from the rest of the Victorious cast
Agreed! She didn’t do anything wrong. People need to apologise for bullying a TEENAGER mercilessly for years. It’s gotten better but you still see people comment crap like “we all sing” on her music video releases over a decade later. Get a god damn life.
I feel like people with no life or direction have too much power in this society and we need to reclaim our space
Prime example of the media overreacting to things they know absolutely nothing about and ruining opportunities for innocent people. The hate towards her has always bothered me. I really hope she’s happy, I know she’s still acting and making music. We should go give her the credit she deserves.
The drinking/drugs thing is also further confirmed from Ariana recently, when talking about her weight loss. She said the “healthy” old version of her people liked was drinking a lot and mentally unwell….
Sucks Victoria wanted to go the healthy route and got alienated for it :(
Problem is the industry hasn't valued health from the start. As a singer myself, I long for health to be valued, honestly in all workplaces. Status quo has been to do whatever it takes to sell a product and we're clearly not okay as a result
I never understood the hate Victoria got and still gets to this day I mean she is actually a person who minds her own business and keeps to herself. People bash on her singing like yeah, she doesn't have the range like Ariana or isn't trained like Liz but to say she can't sing was always crazy to me because she does have a nice listenable voice and I feel like her music would not have hit the same if it was done by another cast member imo. I have even seen people hate her because they hated her character on the show like she was the one who wrote the script or made them give her the part. She was barely 17 when the show started and 19 by the time it ended, I can't imagine the mental stress she was put through because of these false narratives about her.
Yes! It was so weird to pit Victoria and Ariana against each other over “beef” that happened when they were teens. They both should’ve been able to thrive, Twitter back then was WILD and the toxic arianators were the main reason Victoria flopped.
I agree! They were teens and now that time has passed Ariana Stans should let it go. I know back then the internet did not let Victoria breathe at all. I don’t even blame her for not being in the spotlight as much because anything she does people will just mock her.
I am so happy Victoria could get away from all of this. She is still quietly making her music and acting for movies on Netflix. Also, she has GREAT range. Her movies go from suspense/thriller to comedy/romance. I watched Perfect Pairing (2022) and Afterlife of the Party (2021) and loved them. Every time she comes out with a movie (which is usually about one per year) my sister and I watch it together and they are, really, all great movies. The Outcasts (2017), Naomi and Eli's No Kiss List (2015), and Trust (2021) are also some other ones I highly recommend. She deserved better than what the 2010s pop culture had to offer her, but I am glad she seems to be in a good place now. She's one of the very few celebrities I keep up with (along with Bridget Mendler who has a similar story). Good for her that she was able to fully separate herself from the type of lifestyle that didn't suit her.
I never understood why people hated Victoria so much. She was always such a sweetheart and people took that clip out of context and made it seem like she didn't like how people said ariana's singing was good. I think that the people that hated on her owe her an apology.
I didn't fail Victoria Justice and I don't need to apologize to Victoria Justice because unlike you and all the other haters I never believed the rumors, especially when Ariana Grande herself said she wasn't talking about Victoria Justice. The people who should apologize most though are the ones saying she's the worst part of Victorious and least talented.
i think she did it on purpose to hint that it was because of victoria so that she can make herself look good
@@laglandeuse5973Ariana was always a malignant narc lol the fact that people couldn't see it when it was so obvious is so fustrating
@@Crazy09starkillor so true, but they start to see it now
I think if ariana actually considered victoria as her friend, she would have defended and stood up for her when that meme got blowed up, considering the fact that how big of a deal it was taken by the internet that they got as far as giving her death threats. She wasnt a girls girl from the start - we just realised it late.
Yes like what was the point of texting her in private “I was not on about u I was on about someone who I worked with on broadway” like okay…? So why not state that to the public or you just expect victoria to say it on ur behalf when ppl are already not listening to what she says???
My least favorite episode of Victorious was when they left her out of their Pingpong scam.Real friends wouldn't do that.
I'm incredibly active in Vic's fanbase (mostly on Twitter which is... well I bet you can imagine the mess that is with how much of a hellsite Twitter is at this point). Vic honestly was done so badly by Nickelodeon. Watching everything crumble so fast after Victorious was cancelled she was pretty much dragged through the mud with no help from the Network she was doing a LOT for during that point in time of her career. That and the public perception of her is just miserable (If I have to see one more I think we all sing joke I might loose it 😭 I can't imagine how annoying that would be on the receiving end).
That being said Victoria Justice DOES still act a lot. Between guest starring roles on shows, a good handful of movies (Trust, Afterlife Of The Party, A Perfect Pairing & The Tutor just between 2021 to 2023 alone & 2 more movies unreleased but already filmed [Depravity & California King]), She's also? A model ironically enough, I don't remember the exact # but it was somewhere around the top 20 most saught after models in Italy. Though I'd love to see her get more attention for her music (she's been teasing new music coming /very/ soon actually).
The entire ordeal was sad. At the end of the day if there were any issues it was petty teenage drama. The entire cast still interacts with each other on social media (Yes! Even Vic & Ari! The most recent coming to mind is Ari commenting on one of Vics Coachella posts in April of 2023). Watching the public hold onto decade old drama is exhausting to watch and honest to god you get tired of hearing it all the time (which you certainly will if you even exist in the general presence of her fan spaces). I could go on for awhile but point is - Vic does deserve better and I do hope she eventually does grow in her career the way she deserves! 🌟
Time truly puts everything into place and shows what people are made of… Kudos to her for remaining an overall beautiful human being and moving on from the unfair treatment she has been given over the years!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I mean, I don't condone bullying since that's been an ongoing issue throughout my entire childhood and teen years, but didn't Alexa Nikolas state that she was bullied by Victoria? I am a firm believer of what goes around comes around.
That's what I was thinking. Like I remember Alexa saying they were best friends than Victoria turned on her one day and was being all mean girl with Jamie Lynn
@@BubblegumGirl366 exactly!! And the bullying from Jamie led to being screamed at and humiliated by Brittney. And Brittney was the only one who ever apologized to Alexa. I didn’t hear any accountability from Victoria, so, oh well 🤷🏾♀️
@@cassandra2968THE Britney Spears? That sounds horrible idk if I would recover omg!! I been getting into Alexa’s RUclips vids lately but couldn’t find the video. Can u pls link it? Tysm😊
Now that you mention it look at where Ariana is now and all the things that have happened to her up until now. A lot of controversial stuff compared to Victoria.
I've always loved her and have been so mad to see how much ppl hate on her for one stupid clip that didn't even mean what they thought it did. I just hope she's happy and doing what she loves still. I'll keep supporting her and love if she ever got bigger like she deserves, but at the end of the day I just want the best for her.
I never found the meme funny because in context of the clip daniella Monet chimes in saying “that’s not true, Liz you also sing a lot”, and it’s at that point that Victoria justice says the infamously memed to death joke about that they “all sing” which I really don’t think sounds as hostile as everyone made it out to be in context.
I believe that because she didn’t do what Dan told her to do was the reason why she didn’t get bigger 😢
Bro really said I think we all sing and we're still holding that against her
and that's literally her catchphrase. She says it all the time to make people feel included and they are many videos of her saying it. And the fact that none of the cast and co stars rallied behind her and spoke up when all this happened is very telling
She deserved(s) so much better! I love her. I loved her in Zoey 101, loved her in Victorious, Eye candy. And will love whatever else shes in. I hope she doesnt give up acting and music ❤
Victoria saying that one thing she will never come back from just because Ariana fans wanted to mock her like chyle anyways
Its sad because most of the hate was just from rumours and gossip and 10 second clips from her character in the show. There's rlly bad gossip culture on tiktok honestly
You’re back! Can’t wait for the video 🖤.
Yes I'm back! 🥰End of the year always gets so hectic with the holidays and everything. Can't wait to upload more this month! Making it a resolution of mine to be more consistent/active lol. 💖
i felt pretty bad for Victoria for so long,
Never really watched Victorious and such, but i did have a younger step sister that watched it which lead to me seeing bits and pieces of it anyway.
Wasn't a fan of the show but if i did had to pick a character from that show, i would have back than, and would still pick Victoria.
I don't know why but i always just kinda gravitate towards her for some reason, So it's a bit sad to see that she never got as much of a light on her compared to most others.
But i respect her pushing thru and carrying on though, As well as her still being active today.
People are going to bring up the Zoe 101 drama so I’m leave a comment about it:) No one has proof of anything Victoria has done, people are just going with what other people say. And if she was a “bully” let’s not act like we didn’t say or do things as kids/teens. Like liking the same person or making unnecessary comments or assumptions.
A lot of people have been commenting about that and I wasn’t aware of the Zoey 101 drama bc I didn’t watch the show. But I feel like they were just teens and it must’ve been some petty drama that they’ve all grown from by now. Definitely doesn’t give people permission to send her hate and threats though.
It's not that what Tori did was so wrong, it's that people love bullying a person together. They will never stop doing it, they don't care if she is right or wrong any more, they simply like putting her down.
In 2015 she did a show called Eye candy for mtv and it was such a good show but it only got 1 season I love Victoria Justice and yes her Netflix movies are also pretty good too so I never really understood the Victoria Justice hate train
She was and still is my biggest celebrity crush. Problem with her career is she never outgrew her nickelodeon image. Her current movies don't appeal to everyone as they're mostly love stories
Victoria played the main role and looked drop dead gorgeous even as a teenager, never had an „ugly“ phase. Of course, people were jealous!! She’s one of the nicest and most beautiful girls in Hollywood!! ✨ After a decade she hasn’t aged, didn’t have a mental breakdown (even after years of being bullied) and looks better than any other teen star !! 💫
Victoria Justice has such a good voice. I wish she had a album out back then 😢
@@Theicons687 I support every last one of her songs. Her voice is amazing. I really wanna see her do a electropop dance pop album
I never hated her and never understood why so many people did. And tbh, the more I learn, the more I think Ariana Grande might be a bit of a villain. Or at least not as perfect as she’s portrayed to be
well, she stole someone else's man so 🤷♀
Never understood all the hate she got!? At least she is not continuously the other woman. Justice for Victoria.
I'm sure she's still an actor but she's just not as big
Her films are doing well on Netflix
That's actually really cool I don't know why they said that in the video
@@NStone1996 🙄
Even to this day there are tons of blind items that talk about the fact that the show ended because of all the elicit substances the cast were doing and how it was getting too out of hand. There are also blinds that state how “the creator” pit the others against Victoria because she refused to let him have his way with her. While on the other hand Ari is said to have slept with and flirted with executive even in front of their wives. After a certain point the show stopped being about Tori’s character. It was all about the other cast they all had fleshed out characters while Tori ended up being the annoying one.
Blind items?
that girl on tiktok (I forgot her username sadly) who said Ariana basically took her bf who was acting in the paparazzi episode in victorious + when the girl told Ariana about them being together, Ariana blocked her. And ppl have found proof that the story is true!! So it’s defo not shocking to find out that Ariana basically sleeps with nearly every guy she sees, whether they’re single or not.
Wouldn't be surprising if that's true. After all, Dan Schneider did that before to Alexa Nikolas on Zoey 101 for the very same reason.
Victoria seems the most genuine and kind of them all! Also most real, pretty sure all the other girls (especially Ariana!!) has had lots of work done. Victoria looks beautiful!
What’s sad is that a while back, it might’ve been at Coachella….Victoria actually did a small interview where she talked about it and it was on TikTok. I didn’t even read the comments because quite literally whether it’s a post about her from someone else, or it’s something from her own page…..nothing but hate. A few days ago she posted a TikTok of her and some friends doing a bachata dance (she’s half Puerto Rican) and due to the slowish beat and tempo of the song, she did the dance a bit slower and people were dragging her for even that. She could post a video of herself just looking at the camera, and she’d receive hate for it.
They also bullied Vcitoria Justice because they thought that she bullied Ariana Grande and Ariana never stood up for her saying that she wasnt the one who bullied her
She literally did in 2013, she told the whole world that she wasn’t talking about Victoria publicly in the exact same magazine where she talked about her bullying experience, you can still find the article online. Funny how people complain that fans were bullying Victoria with their made up scenarios while y’all are still doing the same accusing Ariana of not doing things that she literally did
Ohh the irony as Ariana Grande is currently being called a Homewrecker, is getting skinnier and skinnier, and is now hated by millions of people! Fame destroyed her! Glad this didn’t happen to Victoria
why yall can’t raise a woman up without bringing down another is beyond me. We don’t know Ariana’s mental or physical health and shouldn’t theorize about it. She has literally said she’s losing weight bc she no longer drinks and abuses substances. Let’s leave it at that. Both women are talented and lovely
I think she's being rightfully criticized but millions of people hating her? that's just an exaggeration. Despite everything the hate she got wasn't even comparable to the hate most celebs usually get. If anything she ended up just fine
@jaydenbrown3122 I agree, and I'm not a Ariana fan either. I think it's sad how people just tear down others if they're beautiful or famous. I'm not defending any homewrecking or anything though, I just don't know much about that situation.
Ariana grande is a mean girl let's face it, she has done a lot of controversial things, but she is charismatic so a lot of people gravitates towards her, as to a lot of assholes for some reason, we all had that one mean friend that used to be the center of attention even tho you knew who that person really was, all you could do was to step away and see how unfairly that person gets all the praise.
Its so crazy how a few words could ruin someones Career like she had it all
Singing ✅️
Acting ✅️
She is very beautiful and likeable ✅️
She hase a grate sense of style and she looked so expensive ✅️
She had it all she deserves the career ariana grande hase she had it all to be the next popstar hit and she could have definitely gone down in history for one of the best singers and vocalists of all time.
But it was all ruined bye dan those weird ariana toxic stans
I've always been puzzled by the Victoria Justice haters. I hope that things get better for her.
I love a video that critiques us over the celebrity. It’s refreshing.
When it comes to that clip of her commenting on the singing, i realized, while she could be talking about the fact that they all have singing ability therefore seemingly downplaying Arianas voice, she could've INSTEAD meant that they all sing quantity wise? Liz and Ariana were talking about how they sing a lot, and maybe victoria was just adding on saying that they all sing a lot as opposed to not singing, or just talking. Like i would say the same thing about myself in that I spontaneously sing around the house all the time, if that makes any sense.
This is make take, I did feel like Victorious really didn't do her justice. I rmr when Zoey 101 was still airing, Lola was literally a fan favorite till the point many ppl forgot about Dana. Many girls in my class found Victoria very pretty, and the character Lola was very cool. Many boys in my school found Victoria Justice very hot. She was literally the it girl when it came to tweens, esp during Zoey 101, and after the show ended. Ppl were excited when Victoria was going to have her own show.
However, Tori wasn't a very well written character. She was a Mary Sue. Tori was viewed as the most talented student in the school, with any weakness, and literally got everything on a silver platter. So her character came out very bland, and her acting came out bland. Victoria was by far overshadowed by her cast mates.
As for the show being canceled, if it was Victoria decision not to continue the show, then that no reason to be mad about. Victoria has been working with Nick since she was 11. She was hitting her early 20s. She probably wanted to pursue mature roles instead of forever being known as Nickoleon star.
She has work in independent films, I guess she wants to work more independently than work on something being controlled by Hollywood. Her working with Dan for many years, and I really dont blame her.
Why doesn't she hang out with her old cast members. Well, she really doesn't hang out with her Zoey 101 cast mates, just once for reunion, but that about it. I guess it is kinda like graduating high school. I have seen many ppl who I went to school with still hang out with each other while others lose in touch. I dont talk to my high school friends unless if I run into them. I guess u shouldn't really judge, Topher Grace really close with his That's 70 show cast members and never show up to get together. He was viewed as a selfish person who thought he was too good for the show and his cast members. Then the whole situation with Danny Masterson came out, and now ppl dont blame him for keeping his distance.
How the hell was Tori a Mary Sue? A Mary Sue is a female character that can do no wrong, Tori made so many mistakes in the first season, and she had so much self doubt as well, but she got better down the line. You can call her many things but definitely not a Mary Sue especially since so many people can relate with her
The people who bullied her owe her an apology. Many people like myself saw thru the BS, and knew she wasnt ever a bad person and didnt deserve any hate. Just saying
So basically those episodes where they tried to make Tori more famous but Tori didn't like how it was altering her character were real...Tori didn't wanna sell out in her real life
I see it as an unfortunate blessing in disguise. Because look at all the drama these celebs goibg through. The constant scrutiny. Victoria should stay where she is. Stick to her music and acting and staying clear away from drama
Victoria was so sweet I honestly never thought she had some hate for Ariana when she’s so talented herself like I had a feeling it was taken out of context.
I happened to watch Victorious in the lockdown and honestly loved Tori's character more than anyone else. Tori doesnt give and take shit to and from others, she is sweet, helpful, kind and with a mighty heart. Victoria is my most actress from the sets of range and she is the only one that I follow till date. I watched her netflix movies too, she is still the same beautiful, kind and very down to earth person. I love victoria
I remember when I was young watching the kids choice awards, I saw Victorious win and the whole cast were sitting together but Victoria was sitting away from them and together with her mom
Ariana was calculated enough to put a small effort in to cover her own a** if people began to ask why she didn’t defend Victoria. She was huge and could have said during a performance and on tv that her and Vic didn’t have beef and it was all misunderstanding. If you look back in all the vids with Victoria and Ariana id say Ariana was the one who didn’t like Victoria. Her body language and face whenever she looks at Victoria she looks low key pressed. When she said one girl doesn’t want to do another season Ariana was probably talking about herself considering ariana went on a solo tour herself lol 😂 I trust my own intuition and something about Ariana has always been off to me. She gives mean girls Regina George vibes.
Yep same here! I’ve always sides with Victoria. I’d say Ari was jealous of her.
She was my favorite. My heart hurt when everyone went against her.
I loved her in Eye Candy, and I was so upset that it was cancelled
I've always been on Victoria's side - I never believed she was a bully, and I didn't hear that other stuff about her. I've been a fan since Zoey 101, and I think she is talented. I keep hoping for more music. Go Victoria Justice!