Episode 37: Pro Fighter Jeff Chan of MMASHREDDED, Shifu Gregg Zilb and Shifu Lloyd Coleman
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2023
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We are proud to present to you a conversation between two legends in the traditional marts world meeting with a phenomenal Pro MMA fighter, Coach and RUclipsr. We at The Martial Mind Podcast facilitated a training session collaboration between Coach Chan and our school. The day sparring and training with him and his training partner Peter was amazing and humbling. They both are truly great fighters with a LOT of skill. We can't thank them enough for coming down and giving us their time, and Jeff for still giving us an hour to sit with him even though he was on a time crunch. Thank you all! I hope you enjoy! 
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I hope this is the resurgence of Kung Fu. Thank you guys for keeping the original Kung-Fu.
Same here!
When you dojo storm, you do it in a nice way, and its a learning experience...
Or a "learning experience"
Coach greg with the comedic timing
Hi there, this is Dennis Soo from International Shaolin Singapore. Great to know there are some Shaolin Brothers practicing the traditional Shaolin(Evolving one) in States ya.🙏🙏🙏
You keep it up too, send somebody to ONE FC
My grandma used to always say that getting old sucks but it sure beats the alternative.
Agreed 👍🏻
@@themartialmindpodcast great long form podcast, glad I found it today! I am an older guy (50) who used to do martial arts quite a few years back (Gaidojutsu with Greg Jackson when it was in a shitty little strip mall and nobody had ever heard of it, and American Kenpo). It's been a couple of decades but I have been missing it a lot lately, so been watching a bunch of channels and looking for a good school locally. I am a much less angry person than I used to be, so am looking forward to the different experience than just fighting to fight.
@@PatrickBurdine I’m glad you’re liking the show! Thanks for checking it out! Our school is on Long Island I hope you find one near you!
Its great to see you guys collab. As someone trying to learn my Tang Lang more practically I look at both of your videos as sources to study and learn from and apply in my own training. Also gotta mention depending on perspective a system that is simple to learn like boxing is better if you want to learn to fight quick but Kung Fu is literally hard work and has such a large pool to learn from that you never run out of things to learn and that is what makes it so worthwhile to learn.
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Nice to see some god discussion , of different background. Shout out from POLAND. Good job, guys. Keep up.
Thank you!
I hope this podcast grows and your school and kungfu gets some shine. Interesting topics and good educational conversation from friendly hosts.
Keep it up!!!! Love thiss
Great conversation. Agree with so many points here
Thanks so much for listening and commenting 🤙🏻🙏🏻
Great video, thanks!
Thank you!!
Respect 🙏🏽🔥
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I agree with Jeff, fighting is a science, there's not two different way of punching someone in the face. Every martial art at its peak should theoretically look the same imo.
Then why do we need so many martial arts, some of these traditions should just die then? Since I guess we already know what the best striking and grappling is?
Sure it’s a science, but science involves the ongoing questioning of what we currently know. There’s so much that “TMA” has to offer that haven’t even begun to be explored by the general public as of now.
Silly thing to say. If anything at peak performance is when things can and should look the most different between two people... Even within 1 style like boxing no two boxers will fight the same way, because their bodies are not the same. At peak athletic performance is when the tiniest differences in your body matter the most not the least.
The conversation about learning curves in different martial arts in the first 10 minutes was so so good. Hypothetically if you got to do fight prep at shaolin in china with a 6 month training window the monks would probably just teach you sanda instead of one of the esoteric forms.
I was fortunate to be around lots of different martial arts 'traditional' and 'western/modern' when i was younger and i totally agree with Jeff's take. When i trained at an mma gym i sparred with a kung fu (idk the lineage) school whose students kinda sucked but i got humbled by their sifu with animal style 'hollywood bs'. Similarly i met capoeira mestres i would not want to fuck with even though i would 100% not recommend that art as a practical self defense system.
It’s all about the practitioner not the art, if they put the time in they’ll learn how to properly use it!
This is a huge problem for the public image and longevity of these martial arts and their communities. But you talk to most members of these communities and they don’t mind having the “martial” stripped away from “martial art” since there’s no clear path to removing that crazy learning curve and reversing the backwards public image.
I was trained in a hybrid of traditional Vietnamese martial arts (similar to southern Kung Fu styles), kickboxing, and taekwondo. My experience is you have to modify/modernize it and do alot of sparring with different styles.
Love the podcast. Just subscribed. Wish I could make it out to LI to train with you, but it's too impractical. Would you be able to recommend a good Kung Fu school in Brooklyn?
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Every time Jeff calls Muay Thai a western or modern style I can't help but cringe. You can tell the guy's doing his best to stay open-minded - and kudos for that - but also there's still some artificial narrative he was programmed with years ago about what traditional martial arts mean and stand for. It's always satisfying to see a person get free of brainwash, but of course, ignorance is a hydra you can never defeat, since for every guy like Jeff, who put in years of hard work to earn his understanding, there are ten new guys at the same point where he used to be. So thank you, brothers, for fighting a good fight, figuratively and literally, to educate people 👊🤝
P.S.: damn, that came out much more pompous than I intended 😅
Literally the only difference is the combat sport honestly. As long as it isn't in the olympics, to be precise lmao
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@@yasuh4550o, Taekwondo and Karate literally have full contact rulesets that are yes, in the fucking Olympics, but nope, haters still say “outdated, spiritual, not effective”
If anything ironically the type of karate Jeff likes is much more western than Muay Thai anyway haha. The lead leg sidekick side stance Stephen Thompson thing is straight up an American invention as far as karate is concerned. You look at Japanese karate nobody fights that way... Doesn't matter kyokushin or JKA point karate no one and I mean no one has sidekicks like that. American karate because of the relationship with TKD always did even back to the Joe Lewis/Chuck Norris days.
Indeed. He probably should have said _westernized_ . But as @joshuabrant7689 commented, even what in the mainstream looks like "traditional" may have westernized aspects.
All in all, it's hard to not have cultural hybridization after globalization of the last half century.
MMA is more a wrestlers game now. Wrestlers training is perfectly suited to MMA, than you add the striking (ground and pound)... its GG. I've found the more i do muaythai and MMA, the more my traditional japanese jujitsu improve (even if i am rusted and last time i trained it was 10 years ago).Every time people ask me: 'how i know to do this move and how come i am not ''falling'' from the BJJ/MMA takedown to the ground like ''it should happen'. I answer that i come from a traditional japanese jujitsu background which gave me great takedown defense.. the people are ''wtf you talking about, TMA shouldn't work!'' ... my answer: Martial arts is all about great teachers who trained well their students
Nope. MMA is still largely stand up now. The wrestlers tend to have advantages but great takedown defence by strikers has helped like Israel he has amazing takedown defence.
Can someone provide the names he said at 28:49 Only one I really got was bajiquan
I would love to see not only Ving Tsun, Bajiquan and other Gung Fu practitioners in the cage, but also Silat from Malaysia and Indonesia
Kung Fu works, Kevin Holland knocks out people with kung fu san soo. Then again not everyon is Kev
As a guy who trains and competes in MMA and BJJ and grew up obsessed with Kung Fu, Bruce Lee etc I love this type of podcast, bridging the gap with traditional martial arts and the philosophy and modern martial arts e.g. MMA etc.
I’m glad you found us! Thanks for watching.