Star Trek Discovery 5.07 "Erigah" Review
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
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I think we should all as nerds take a moment to appreciate this whole thing hinges on a literal library card. Support your local library, even if it's not space based.
Amen!
Aren't we all nerds and bookworms???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
love this
I really liked the parallels between this episode and Battle of the Binary Stars. I like that Burnham finds a way to use Raynor's knowledge and doesn't downplay his knowledge and experience simply because he has personal history/trauma with the Breen.
I made my notifications sound a Voyager badge chirp and my morning alarm is "LIFE SUPPORT HAS FAILED ON ALL DECKS. ABANDON SHIP." which has been the most effective alarm I've ever used.
My morning alarm is the Mass Effect Uncharted Worlds theme and my notifications the ping for audio logs in Halo Infinite (that I captured in game).
Where did you get that alarm sound? I could use it 😂
@@DoctorMysterio15 sorry i thought i'd replied but maybe youtube doesn't like links? the trekcore website has sound bites though I'm not sure if thats exactly where i got it
That's no moon,,, it's a dreadnaught!
My text notification noise is the TNG "Incoming Transmission" sound with a console sound 🙂
First of all. This episode was worth it just to watch Dr. Culber “throw hands” with Moll. He held his own pretty well. The Star Trek franchise does well with the “warrior-healer” role.
Indeed. I love our Starfleet Warrior-Healers, especially Dr. Beverly Crusher.
Don't forget doctor Pulaski, she was a real one.
I want to try Reno’s “Seven of Lime” drink.
Someone within the Disco fam, must have the recipe 🍸
I think we need to make it up… If anyone does, and it’s good, let us know!
This cracked me up so much had to rewind several times. Best bit of the ep. I did like the overall ep tbh, just ❤️ Reno more.
I hope Moll's tattoo inspires T'Rina and Saru to get matching ones as well.
Its episode seven. You know we learned more about the Breen in Discovery than in DS9. Also, Rillak is not the only one who is absent, surprisingly, Saru is absent as well, I really want another scene with Saru and T'Rina. And I agree with you, Rayner is an interesting character, I hope he'll make guest appearances in the upcoming Star Trek Academy.
Not just Saru, but Owo and Detmier as well, which really sucks cause I’m not interested in the Bridge Crew substitutes (I only just learned some character differences between Bryce and Reese😩)
I loved the DS9 reference " The last time the Breen entered federation space they destroyed a city"
the Breen have brought back a menace that the Emerald Chain tried to but couldnt quite bring. I love it
I think they said the library like hides in plasma stormed areas, which is what Book was picking up on, they confirmed this through the known locations over the past few hundred years, they then plotted that to potential next locations which is how they landed on the badlands.
I want to see Daft Punk and the Breen make a song together
Regarding the telepathic connection to the archive: I just assumed throughout that it was to the archive itself, not to its location. It makes sense thematically, since it's a library card from the archive. Book got those impressions of the location because that's where the archive is right now, so it's part of what the archive feels like.
In general I really liked this episode, and it's probably my favourite of the season so far (I also love Trek space politics). It had some weaknesses, but mostly I thought those were continuations of weaknesses introduced in previous episodes. For example, I was frustrated by how thinly Moll and L'ak's backstory had been sketched out previously, and this time I was frustrated that we didn't have any more of a clear idea of who L'ak is as a person, and why he had rebelled so dramatically against his upbringing. I think we're just meant to *assume* that the Breen are a generically unpleasant regime and he's a generically nice guy, but it really feels like there should be *something* interesting and specific there, and we haven't been shown it (even when there was a perfect opportunity to show it in those flashbacks, which instead showed us some very vague snapshots of a relationship developing entirely in a cargo bay).
*However*, overall I thought this was good, and in general I'm enjoying this season much more than I thought I would. So of course just as it's getting good again, it's been cancelled.
All agreed, except I felt I “got” L’ak being, say, the “runt of the litter” or just a non-Breeny or weak Breen. It’s possible to be that person in your family and feel like (or be) a reject, or in the case of one of my kids, be unique and extra loved for who they are. L’ak rang true to me, just sad his society had no room for him. Moll has a good heart and first loved him for that I think.
I've been thinking it would be great to have a trek show like the west wing. Following the diplomatic corps and maybe a few select ambassadors. It would be great!!
One thing I miss from this season is making the Discovery its own character like every Federation starship has been. Not the character of AI Zora, but the ship playing a special role in the show like Burnham does. So far Discovery is just a transport vessel.
It can go point to point anywhere in the galaxy instantaneously. Somehow, they've made that the least interesting part of the entire show. Disco is one of my favorite series in the franchise but the Discovery is one of my lowest ranked ships for sure.
Doug Jones was doing promos for the hocus pocus sequel during this time.
I have legit had the TNG comm chirp my text tone for over a decade! 😅 It makes watching TNG a little distracting but it’s pretty cool!
I got the interpretation that the telepathic imprint on the library card only told that the library always goes to placesike the badlands. They combined this information with historic sightings and the badlands where the logical next place (though the historic sightings would also have shown the ion storm pattern)
_The destruction of Starfleet HQ was not caused by the Progenitor tech_
That's so awesome. They broke the cycle of the world ending macguffin
It's just the big ass battle cruiser destroying the office skyscraper
The Progenitor tech is back to just being a piece of tech
4:47 Reno made the same criticism in the episode. At least the writers were self-aware!
In hindsight, I think it was a missed opportunity not to have Rayner calmly recommend the Vulcan Hello as a tactic, appealing simultaneously to T'rina's logical side and Burnham's emotional side. He's already established that he does research on people and cultures he works with, and he already knows how his gruff nature gets on everyone's nerves. I guess he's not being set up to be a master tactician.
Heh. *pausing before spoiler section, though I just watched episode. * Actually, before I forget, you *can* have echoes and similar in signals in space, just from whatever your signal's going through/bouncing off, kind of like sonar pings might bounce off thermal layers as well as a target or whatnot for submarines, radio signals bouncing off the moon vs passing through bouncing around the ionopshere, that sort of thing. Don't even have to resort to my usual handwaves about speakers and viewscreens simulating/translating sounds from other spaceships cause that's how humanoid brains expect things to work and can get useful sensory input about faster than say numbers. (in another of my tangents, I don't even have a problem with warp and impulse drives making sounds directly inside other ships, they're messing with spacetime, not hard to believe that might make a few other objects filled with air nearby resonate a bit. :) (I kind of like how Abramstrek treated the difference between cacophony inside ships and silence outside, especially if someone had been blown out without a suit.)
And I don't actually mind the 'Bonnie and Clyde' tropeyness of all this, especially cause so much wouldn't make sense without it, (including the times where the pair and even each as individuals do kind of counter-rational things. And it probably makes sense that the romance itself doesn't make sense cause Moll's kind of crazy and we see the Breen are literally three-faced socially at least, ...the backscenes about their meeting and brief 'courtship' don't really sell it on any human terms I can discern either, but I kinda speculate that her being a relative of Book and mentor there might mean she's an empath too at least enough to tell somehow Laak was a kindred spirit despite appearances or anything. (Also in general I kind of like what we see so far of a little more detail on the Breen, maybe explaining confusion established in earlier shows, and I think it was a nice touch their medic apparently wore a glowing 'symbol of Breen in general' ..which presumably implies 'Don't shoot the medic over clan stuff, here to treat all Breen wounded.'
I also find it very interesting that in a universe full of spaceships with non-attached nacelles and shapechanging hulls, their capital ship is just a massive chonk of ridiculous volume. Their Dominion War era ships seemed to be loosely-attached assemblages in the first place, you'd think they'd have been the first to embrace the detached-parts model if they could. :)
I get frustrated with characters like Mol and L'ak who never seem to learn when they're in over their heads, and will just keep trying to make it on their own as the stakes of everything spiral wildly out of their control. And they're just like, "yeah we can get away in a shuttle." Clearly that was never going to work, like, even if you stole a shuttle, what's stopping the massive Breen ship from blowing it up. You got in over your heads, I'm so sorry about it, but at some point it's time to get realistic.
Not in the Briar Patch 😂
Culber is becoming one of my favorite characters. I think Book suffered from our whiplash from Ash Tyler a bit, and his level of interesting suffered from how they dealt with him in season 4.
This episode ends with a strong lesson that the needs of the many trump the needs of the one. I can’t believe they gave M’all up. I think you are spot on with the analysis of her motives. But as a life long Trekkie, while this episode has faint whiffs of Sisko and the Romulans, that the Federation rolled over to save itself leaves a terrible aftertaste. It tastes like a greasy coin, as Hannibal Lecter would say.
My two favorite kind of trek episode is a courtroom room drama and two fleets of ships pointing guns at each and a desperate rush to defuse the situation. Great to see the Breens preference for the cold is maintained. I personally loved it.
I really enjoyed the episode overall. It wasn't perfect, but any excuse for more Tig Notaro on our screens is welcome. Reno is awesome and doesn't show up enough
I didn't expect L'ak to die this episode. I didn't exactly expect Moll and L'ak to have a happy ending, but it came pretty abruptly. Boo to the idea that they can bring him back, though
Two thoughts:
Discovery has been cribbing a lot from Doctor Who over the years (the Burn arc is a very Moffat-esque story), and now we have a galactic library. Hope they watch out for Vashta Narada!
Second, this episode had a moment of unintentional hilarity at the mention of the USS Mitchell, because Mitchell is the name of one of the best episodes of MST3K and the idea of Mitchell-in-space is frigging hilarious.
The only thing that bugged me about this episode was they reused the old thoron fields / duranium shadows trick to fake weapon capacity. Sure, serious DS9 nerds (hi) will recognize that trick. But they'll also know when it was last used ... in the 23rd century. It's an 800 year old trick at this point and certainly the Breen would be able to see through it. I appreciate the callback, certainly, and it's a deep cut callback at that, but I don't think it's handled well. It's a super minor thing, but it stood out to me, as indeed I am that obnoxious DS9 nerd.
I mean they ended up not using the trick, just kinda mentioned it. I think Rayner being the one to recommend it was kinda a fun idea since it seems he was a freedom fighter of some sort and it's a tactic you'd use to make yourself seem more formidable when you're not.
I'm calling it - the Eternal Archive is the future VGERified continuation of the Internet Archive.
While I was watching the Breen Dreadnought arrive, I thought we'd see more about who L'ak really is and find out how he rates in the succession of the Imperium - a Paul Atreides situation going on behind the scenes. Maybe he's too important for any Erigah now. What a CF that turned into in the sickbay though. 👩🚀
THANKS for this!!!
Rayner will be Rayner :)
I miss Clyde already :)
I think that this season is most even on all levels. I think this show will go down in Trek history as "Oh, yeah, that show that tried a lot of different things."
As always, let me say again❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ya Jesse appreciate all your work when I am emperor of this universe. I will give you control of Star Trek.
With you!
I really enjoyed this episode, and your video as well. Just one small correction, I think they said the Archive was in the Badlands, not Briar Patch.
Hi Jessie Hunny, I love your balanced reviews of the good and bad of episodes, and you pointed out things which I didn't see whilst watching it. I did enjoy the episode, and for me so far, this is the best one of the series so far. I thought it had tension and was quite compelling.
I finally realised what’s always bugged me about Discovery and Picard regarding the cinematography. The very wide aspect ratio is great for action scenes, but when there’s dialogue, you have all this empty space to fill, with extras standing around or lights blinking or the camera endlessly careening around the characters. No wonder Fed HQ is designed like a big flat meringue
I wish they’d take a book from directors great in the past, and block-off some of the frame with scenery or a character when they need tighter framing. Rather than just filling up the extra space or moving it around a bunch.
About the singnal thing in space I took it that it was being picked up by people's transmitters and the audio was being played rather than it be played in space.
Another Saru, Owo, and Detmier less episode and I am not happy. This is our final season and half of the original Bridge Crew is missing😩 (luckily Tig showed up with all their monkey wrench shenanigans) There were two weird instances in this episode for me towards the end of the episode, when Moll showed up to watch Lok die the staging was oddly stiff. I get that they wanted to focus on the farewell, but to have the Breen Primark calmly stand around as his linchpin died felt out of character. And secondly if I were Raynor I would’ve not so subtly threatened Moll with the fact that even if she did get the Pregenator’s tech the Federation would cast Lok’s body into a sun so that shit wouldn’t work.
Yeah, Moll and L’ak are really well-done rough sketches of characters. There's not a lot of depth but just enough for actors to make a full persona and hold onto it. But it's not enough for me to care about their personal survival and I think the show expected me to have feelings over it
The Moll Escape annoyed me cos why don't they have multiple layers of forcefield like an airlock so it can't happen?
Also, the ship is sentient yet Zora seems worse at internal sensors than the Majel Barret computer. If this were the Andromeda Ascendant, Moll would be pinned to the floor after Romy put the gravity plating to full
Starfleet is always dumb about force fields
Not much story otherwise?
(Also I do presume the 'library card' constitutes some kind of link to where the library *is.* A Betazoid trying to keep a secret would likely use that means to try to keep a secret. My quibble about this bit of the puzzlebox though is that little was done to engage the audience in the puzzle itself while the crew was struggling. It was like, 'Here's a hologram diagram the audience can't even see, gee, I hope something dramatic happens cause this puzzle is puzzley, believe me.' :) (Speaking of missed opportunities for Jet Reno lines. :) )
First Brekka in Lower Decks, now Kellerun. Seems like all those one-off planets from Star Trek past are falling to the Breen. They better watch their asses on Aldea, Ventax II, and Gideon.
I had some big issues with this episode, mostly related to the sheer number of plot contrivances and the large number of expository dialogue sections. Character took a back seat to plot, and the plot isn't really anything special. Though the turns on Rayner and the Reno scene were enjoyable.
But to summarize two of the biggest issues with the episode - the opener and the closer.
1. Moll and La'k are captured off-screen between episodes. This retrospectively turns the close of two weeks ago into a cheap move, which did nothing other than to stretch out the theoretical threat of them through last episode, when they were in no position to intervene.
2. The ending disrupts the status quo, but doesn't really raise the stakes. Before, the threat was Moll and La'k might get to the progenitor tech first, and give it to the Breen to lift the Erigah on La'k. Now, Moll is actively working with the Breen to find it, in hopes it could raise La'k from the dead (did they take his body?). So it's the exact same stakes that Face the Strange set. Only the threat now seems less, because even if Discovery is dealing with a giant ship instead of Bonnie and Clyde, Moll doesn't have any of the key bits, and doesn't know the clue to get to the next bit, meaning Discovery will beat them to it. So the worse-case outcome is the same, and the antagonists are even further behind than when they started. What is the threat here again?
The events of the episode really prove out Vance’s initial orders over Burnham’s objection. With Moll and L’ak in custody, there was no race for the Progenitors tech. But now L’ak is dead and the Breen have Moll and everything she knows. Major setback for our heroes. But if you take full advantage of a hero ship that can cross the galaxy in seconds when it takes the bad guys months or years, you don’t have a show.
♫ Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein / und das heißt… Erigah! :)
First off: yay N7 helmet and woohoo DS9 video reference! This is a good video already.
As for the episode, I have to agree that this is an important shift in the narrative, where the overarching story needs to push toward its endgame, and...it underwhelms a bit on that front. I don't really remember the actions/attitude of the Breen in previous shows, so the show wasn't able to coast on their rep in this episode (at least for me) and that did not help. They do try to build them up more, talking about how everyone's afraid of a fight with the Breen and how dangerous they could be, but the only bits of that which I felt landed at all were from Rayner, though it felt like they'd taken his character back a few too many steps at the start of the episode. Maybe we needed more hints at Rayner having a history with the Breen earlier in the season, like when they found out the Breen would destroy the universe if they succeed in getting the Progenitor tech, that felt like a good time. Also, much as I liked episode 5 as it was, I think the flashbacks they had would have been better served in this episode.
I think the episode was...alright, fine, maybe, but not very good. Too many spinning plates (two different threads trying to decipher the clue, both fairly dull, frankly), but some parts worked. For instance: all of the Jett Reno stuff (not just because Jett's the best but because it establishes a good vibe of "we're scared, but all that can be done is be prepared, also I can help while doing other stuff"), so glad Tig Notaro's here. David Ajala continued to bring a good weight to Book, Winston Cruz does well with what little Culber got (nice little fight scene), Eve Harlow got to flex a bit, Oded Fehr's always nice to see (if the rumours of more Fraser/Weisz Mummy movies are true, they better bring him back), even T'Rina got a nice bit - I liked the gamble of bluffing about the other Primarch. Still, they were trying to put too much into this and they all suffered. Again, the clues aren't very interesting because they're set up as things we can't solve ourselves and they don't mean anything otherwise (they don't teach a lesson, test character, or even tie into the episode's theme), so it's more or less just "make work" for the characters who aren't involved in the real plot.
Nahn's appearance is another that makes it feel like they knew this would be the final season, but...well, the character always suffered from the same problem as most of the supporting cast of this show: I barely know her, I just recognize her, so I felt little.
Going back to the work on the clue this episode, and this only clicked as it was mentioned in this video: the sense of urgency is really weird to me. Previously, they at least had the fear that Moll & L'ak would beat them to the next clue and get the prize, but that was resolved by the start of this episode, as they were in custody, and there was no other ticking clock until the Breen take Moll at the end...so why was there such an urgency and importance to solving the clue *right then*? Shouldn't they have focused on the Breen (and maybe ways to help L'ak) as much as they could? Feels like they really dropped the ball on that front, other episodes might've seen more than just the one doctor trying to help the important patient, maybe some of the scientists they had would help him brainstorm solutions but they didn't want that, they had to focus on...a clue to something that doesn't actually need to be resolved immediately. I am sad L'ak died, I would've liked to see him and Moll continue to the end of the season, but if they had to kill him like this, the writers did at least give it some decent effects.
I think the library ship moves from one ion storm to another. Or so I think they narrowed down the search to just ion storm locations. Or whatever storms they are.
Love Reno (Tig Nataro) ❤
I was hoping Book would go with Moll so we'd see their relationship build
This was the first episode this season that I actually enjoyed. I liked seeing the behind the scenes of Federation diplomacy and strategizing. And, while Burnham was the one to figure out all the nuances behind the Breens’ thinking, this episode showed that it takes a team for Discovery to achieve its goals.
My criticisms include the idea that no one seems to be aware that the Breen all but destroyed Rayner’s people and his planet not all that long ago. No wonder he’s a tad angry about them.
Tilly just packing her bags and leaving seemed a bit far fetched as well. I would think her superiors would have ordered her where to be. What is she going to do to help her students by going AWOL from Discovery?
Moll’s escape from the force field seemed remarkably easy. Perhaps there should have been more than two guards. In addition, all season long, we’ve seen that Moll is quite a brutal fighter yet Culber seems to hold his own against her quite well. Is hand to hand combat training standard for Starfleet medical personnel?
26:06 26:06 When the Breen transported in to care for L’ak, why didn’t they just beam back out with him?
I’m unclear why Discovery was even called back to Federation headquarters to do absolutely nothing during Moll and L’ak’s interrogation. Shouldn’t they have been searching for the next clue?
I think Discovery had to go back to Headquarters to get the fridge unit for L'ak, and they were told to immediately leave but Burnham wanted to take a stand there. Culber was a doctor during the Klingon war, so I'd be willing to accept he's a little more combat trained than some doctors. And it's totally possible that Discovery had its shields up after they beemed in, so the Primarch couldn't just steal him.
@@thod8820 Discovery was treating L’ak only because they were called back by the Federation.
@@richardvinsen2385 You're right, that is kinda odd. I guess they were planning to use Discovery to teleport them away to stall before Burnham disagreed, since as soon as they were called back the plans were for them to run away to protect the HQ.
Another Episode without the tall guy. What was his name? I forgot. He was played the by Doug Jones.😊
The work day isn't even over yet, so no time to watch this episode yet. Why can't you wait just one day?
I have a feeling like the clue of "eternal" is going to have something to do with the Prophets. The Badlands feel just way too close to Bajor for that to be a coincidence. It's even possible the empathic echo was somehow created using nonlinear insights from the Prophets or one of their orbs. Of course, that opens the question of what connection the Betazoid scientist has to the Prophets, but it still feels like a tidier explanation to the apparent loophole than the empathic impression on the library card having a quantum-entangled subspace mycelial empathic link to the Archive's whereabouts.
I've been pretty strong agreement with everything you said. I'd also add that I really like the breen dreadnought
That's commander Shepard's helmet 😂
Given the fact that in our world it's often important to remind people that there is no such thing as reverse racism, because white people aren't systematically oppressed, even if somebody personally hates them for being white, I think that calling Rayner's attitide towards the Breen racism doesn't work for me. Prejudiced maybe, or biased (understandably).
On a meta level what I find kind of unfortunate, is that WE (as in Starfleet) are the only ones who can possibly deal responsibly with the progenitor technology is a thing that the show has set up to be true. I can kind of understand it in universe, because the Federation has maybe earned it by striving for understanding between peoples and species for centuries, but the sentiment has some unfortunate implications in the real world. (And just when the last episode managed to appreciate the culture of the non-warp people.)
I LOVE THIS EPISODE SO MUCH
Quick question: is it more supportive to watch here or on Nebula?
I don't have money, so I support with my eyeballs.
You have to pay to access Nebula, so if you can't afford that RUclips is your only option.
The concept of "Suspension of Disbelief" does so much heavy lifting during this series and this episode in particular that it really deserves a gold watch and a retirement party. The Secret Hideout showrunners are abusing the goodwill of Star Trek fans unwilling to accept easter eggs over story, tragic origins over character development and tropes over thoughtful interactions.
18:22 I think there was a throwaway line about how they always hide in plasma storms, so they looked for the next plasma storm along in the pattern of where the Archive had been previously.
It's STAR TREK!
What possible reason did Discovery need to meet up with Moll & Lak?... They're supposedly on the most important mission ever to find the Progenitor tech and they take time out to meet up with a couple space pirates and negotiate for their release?... WHY?.... It makes zero sense to not let Starfleet handle them while Discover continues on their mission. It also doesn't make sense for Reno to know about the Archive and a computer with all the knowledge of Starfleet and Sphere data somehow does not... Also we're supposed to not know where the Archive is (so how do people even store things in it?) yet somehow they know where it's been. How? And what's with Burhnam being able to just look at Lak and tell exactly what his deal was? Not sure what's going on with this season of Discovery...
Was that a screenshot from The Badgey Directive?
The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that L'ak dying was part of the Plan Moll wouldn't like. Her going to the Breen might not benefit the Breen at all.
Are you going to the Vegas convention?
i actually disagree with you about the scene where Tilly wants to run away and be with her cadets. Yeah, theres not much she could do if she was with them, but we've already seen how Tilly acts when she thinks she's gonna die, for her character in this season, i think its reasonable to interpret this scene as her thinking shes gonna die yet again, and wanting to be with the young people under her care, in a similar way to how Admiral Vance was with her the last time. Of course I also see where you're coming from, but i prefer to think of Tilly as the kind of person who really would wanna go "protect" her students even though theres not much she could actually do in an exploding space station. I've felt like theyve been quietly pushing some character development for her this season in preparation for her role in Academy. They cant show us very much of that side of Tilly, because it would take away from how excited we're gonna be when we see her as a teacher in the first episode of Academy lol
i cannot express how excited i am to see The Badlands in the 30th century. is the wreckage of DS9 still floating around?? what about the wormhole?? are we gonna meet the wormhole aliens again?? are they holding the next clue?? are we gonna get some obscure reference to Voyager in the badlands?? cant wait to see!
Love that Burnham got to tell Rayner that she "mutinied rather than give an inch back to the klingons" after he just engaged in diplomacy with the Breen. The reflection of their relationship continues to be a highlight of this season. I still maintain that Rayner is the better version of Star Trek VI's depiction of Kirk
Lots of unusual camera angles in this episode, felt like the director was having a lot of fun. Though i did notice that Moll shoves a plastic wheelie cabinet at a security officer, and it totally misses him but he grabs it and falls over anyway lol
Are we ever going to get ANY sort of mention of the Klingons, LIKE... AT ALL?
Yum-yum, Linus, Detmer, and Owashakoon should have taken over the show.
Effect for the (mass) effect god!
Primark is a low quality clothing shop in england.
So if L'ak is Harry and Moll is Meghan is Burnham Oprah?
Just like the ship itself the series keeps jumping here and there and everywhere but it doesn't have a clear course. At this point I'm a little fed up of the amount of times we have to learn how close and full of love for each other is everyone in the crew, how amazing all they are (altough the personalities of the bridge crew are completely interchangable)
I mean, I already know that, but I'm not here for the power of friendship and the pretty colors (MLP already fulfills that role) I'm here because I wanna hear the science bollocks that will solve in a believable way a very complex problem. At this rate I'm almost sure that the progenitors tech will be wasted or go missing again and that will be all. But hey, at least everyone gets along very well in the federation and ultimately that's the important thing, friendship. Ok.
Babylon 5 fans can deduce that in some parallel universe the Breen are defeated by Narn.
When you referred to Jett Reno (Tig Notaro) as He/Him/His, something told me that he was FTM Transgender. And I always knew that about him before I could confirm it myself.
Slightly off topic, but will there be further "Sex in Star Trek" videos in the future? I really loved those!
Yup, working on it.
I find it funny that in 3191 a Breen transmission into Federation HQ has to be fuzzy as heck. I guess comms tech has gotten worse over time.
Encryption and defensive measures will always introduce noise. We see it now and it shouldn't really change no matter when it is. Clear communication requires open bandwidth. This makes sense to me that it wouldn't be clear communication between enemies.
you have a lot of good points here EDIT: doubling down on this comment
I miss the West Wing. Wasn't it nice to believe that people in government were competent and interested in helping people?
(On the spoiler section, here's where I disagree with Burnham too, since the damn situation wasn't even stabilized yet and everyone was rushed for time. Which they ended up having to play for only sooner just cause they were still there. They could have had days or weeks instead of an hour or so. 'Sooner or later' was a poor argument on her behalf when absolutely everyone else on the ship was like, 'Later would be better for reasons! Did you ask?! Staff meeting?! Anyone still do those?! ..... If Discovery went away again, they could come *back* as soon as necessary but in the interim, leave more time for talking. Which is what the Feds needed. (I think this is another case of maybe they didn't think through the like 38th and a half century or whatever tech, never mind all those years of 'We have a spore drive here.' )
Also I really don't think it's 'racism' of the Commander there when he's facing the same damn power structure and military. In fact I don't recall him treating Laak as "A The Breen" so much as "A criminal I've been chasing" even when that was revealed. And, well, he's he first civilian Breen ever that we've seen. (Which, you know, it'd be interesting if they worked any in that aren't AWOL princes from ...the Breen military. ) Anyway, he wasn't wrong, even if he maybe sold Vulcan diplomats short in the process even so.
Also Jet Reno is probably the Trek engineer I most resemble, even compared to O'Brien-level 'well that's interesting.' Personality and attitude-wise maybe, also just the aging lezzie going, 'Yaknow, my big romance and that kind of happy is behind me and that's OK, I'm gonna fix things and mouth off, now.' Seems unlikely she'd come up as 'expert on ancient manucripts,' and it's like, here's me being like, 'Oh, yeah, around then I was doing some kinds of work at the fine arts museum, bodyguarding for some strippers and escorts, word has it being on a very extralegal extraction team for battered trans people. '
I think it may be a true 'fixit people' mentality. 'I have taken all knowledge as my odd jobbing.' And maybe or maybe not taking spying or fighting as a way to fix things, if that works.
Oh, also, I'll wager even donuts the 'archive' is what Memory Alpha did on occasion of the Burn. (Or if you'll forgive a revision to a bet, 'Memory Prime.' From the novels, the Federation's backup drive. That probably *would* start random-walking around in the event of peril to the Federation. :)
Love this. At first I thought her odd jobs seemed a bit out of nowhere, but came to the same conclusion as you.
I complained in my head about why she didn’t mention Memory Alpha, at least in a “what’s happened to it” way. I like your headcanon that this library IS Memory Alpha, just relocated into a mobile structure.
@@kaitlyn__L Well, that was my *guess* rather than 'headcanon.' :) The new episode neither confirmed nor denied anything of the sort. :)
I don't know if it's me but I found it very boring episode. Actually the only episode I really enjoyed so far is the one with the time jumps. 😔
Speaking of time jumps, Burnham says that this is the Breen ship that destroyed the Federation during one of the jumps. Is this current time the same time period in which that attack occurred or is the destruction of the Federation still a possible future event?
Kind of silly episode if you think too deeply about the actual aspects of this episode. Their attempt at a Picard ending of the series is failing. But at least we gart an ending.
I'm going to say it. Maybe it's just me (I spent many years in communities that are ridiculously confident that if a Sunday School teacher or a church official said something, it came from the Bible and thus was God-approved), but every time I hear Mol and Loch (spellings?), I think "Moloch", which is briefly but unclearly mentioned in some part of the Old Testament, and supposedly is either the name of a Canaanite god and/or a sacrifice to said god. Within Bible fan-fic (not literally, but...), Moloch is often depicted as kind of a Minotaur who loves the blood of kiddos. Yay, let's paint Canaanites as heathens (DANGIT, NOTHING BLIPPIN' CHANGES).
Sorry. I should try to be a good sci-fi geek.
I look forward to know if Jessie remembers to mute her phone for the remaining reviews
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You're right, it's a natural mistake I make since my native language lacks gender pronouns.
@@omf4ever No problem. Sometimes, I forget that not everyone who writes in English on the internet learned English as their first language.
Honestly I can't help but think that Moll and La'k are the absolute weakest parts of the season, and I find them really grating, to the point that I completely lose any interest the moment they appear on screen. They're just so terribly clichéd, it's like the writers didn't even make any effort with them, just took the Bonnie & Clyde tropes, gave them a lick of cyberpunk/sci-fi paint, and shoved them into the story. It doesn't help that while La'k is at least kind of passive so far, Moll is just so... groan-and-eyeroll-inducing is the best way I can describe her, with her oh-so-edgy make-up and outfit, and oh-so-edgy attitude, cringey dialogue, her clichéd action moves, etc, I mean this character type was old and boring 20 years ago, never mind now. I can't understand what the writers were thinking with these two characters, they're really bringing down what could have been a decent farewell to one of the more innovative Star Trek shows. :/
On another note, re: Rayner's history with the Breen - c'mon guys, shouldn't this be a fairly important part of his file that Michael should have absolutely known about? I understand they wanted to make a point about prejudices and whatnot, but seriously now, couldn't they have thought of something more private? Really, the writing is not the strongest in this season, which is a pity.
I’m a simple minded man: Another mindless, crybaby episode. These aren’t Starfleet officers. A LOT of useless, emotionally damaged people, and nothing happens. NOTHING, HAPPENS. I should have waited on your review before I watched this. Love your videos!!