100 pound propane tank, is approx 23 gallons. propane current market rates are $1.85 per gallon. today $43.00 +/- to fill that tank. So $222.00 per month +/-. 115 gallons per month set on number two. For what it's worth.
More efficient than how I'm currently doing it. Generator to batteries $40 to fill the generator, needs to run every other day and runs the full tank through each time. Currently working on better options hahaha
That's what I was thinking. I know when we RV full time in the winter our 60lbs lasts us over a month. But again, it's not zero degrees out and only about 350sq ft. I was wondering if a wood pellet stove is more economical.
I install heaters an deliver propane.. running the heater with just the pilot would not over heat the thermocouple.. i have a hearter that i have ran for 4 years straight summer an winter.. usually its dust that makes them shut off like that..
I use a 30,000btu blue flame ventless heater. I have 2 Voda stove fans sitting on a DIY rack. 3 40lb tanks I rotate with. The propane store is just 4 miles away and your size tank is just too much to handle.
@@Fancysregenerativefarmjust purchased one of these - reading the directions, it recommends 100#. I wonder if I could get by with 25lb grill tank? your thoughts?
The Blue Flame is more a convection heater but they do have the radiant ones with the ceramic heaters. I’ve had both and the radiant heaters are much better imo. They do put off a smell and lots of moisture so it’s advisable to crack a nearby window.
It is a ventless model. As I have said before it is ONLY used as a back up should we be away for more than a day at a time. It does cause condensation which causes black mold if not dried out quickly. Our primary source of heat is wood which dries the condensation up.
Yes, read about these heaters! We developed black mold behind our kitchen cabinets and had to rip everything out and perform special cleaning to get the black mold out. Never again!
I got a couple of these in my home for supplement heat to my electric heaters and backup heat during blackouts. Not sure why no one mentions it in their reviews but that thin sheet metal Bings, Bangs and Booms as it heats up and cools down all the time, not a big deal but I watched reviews before I bought and no one mentioned it, it startled me when it happened and be prepared folks.
I believe it will do great! One thing to remember with it being your primary Heat is the condensation created by the propane heaters over time. It's not a concern if you heat with wood as it is a very "dry" heat and counteract the condensation.
@@Fancysregenerativefarm Do you have any tips for minamizing condensation. Will keeping a window slightly open help or perhaps a solar powered bathroom vent.
it's not a problem with wood..or anything that has a chimney to remove the humid *combustion* air... not all propane heaters exhaust the combustion air to the outside, Best of both worlds (for propane heat) would be a heater with an exhaust vent AND a "condensing" heat exchanger to keep as much heat from going out the chimney as possible. That said If' it's just used to keep the pipes from freezing (40 deg F target) AND people won't be inside the non venting type is a pretty efficient idea that doesn't really need any electricity. Diesel "Parking " heaters are much cheaper to run than propane.
TY for this. What about ventilation and dangerous combustion gases? I see you have that on an interior wall and when you picked it up I can see there is no exernal vent. So you are burning interior oxygen and exhausting to your interior breathe air. Are you sure that's safe?
It is "supppsed" to be clean burn and safe for interiors. ....like they use to say about deet, aspestos etc..... anyways we only utilize the heater when we leave and are unable to maintain a fire in the woodstove.
You need to open the windows once a day. the same as a fireplace. Honestly, if you have a workshop or a garage or a tiny house and you are looking for an alternative to electric heat, I suggest diesel heater. You'll need to drill a hole in the wall.
The pilot on these heater have a oxygen depletion system built in. These heater are tested to detect low oxygen and will shut off before dangerous levels will be harmful. Keep in mind you can also install a CO2 alarm system, they are the size of a smoke detector. Some are built together.
Mine runs 1 month on a 100# in the coldest winter I also have out side wood stove when I want to use it out side wood stove is the best way to go but you have fun with your propane junk.
No ventilation, no chimney, no nothing. Just a natural convection IN YOUR OWN HOUSE. Where is the evacuation of the conbustion gases? Dude, all those toxic gases will kill you one day. Do something about it!
The blue flame is not a radiant heat, like the older 5 burners were. Easiest way to put it, 5 burners feel more like radiant heat from a wood stove. Blue flame is more of an even heat, similar to a furnace. I know that sounds silly because they are so similar, but I've seen both at the same time, in the same winter. Once warm, I couldn't tell much difference in humidity or anything though. Only downdraw I seen with the blueflame, is the nozzles seem to get more clogged up (more maintenance at beginning of winter, if you don't take precautions. Great stoves and seemed very close to efficiency. Hope this helps. Holler back with any questions and I'll surely give my experience with me and my granny.
I have been using these heaters for a few years now I have a 500 gallon propane tank I know a lot of people push the Buddy heaters I prefer this kind I am happy with them you can't hear them run like a furnace😊
@@brockdyncatron3775 I am in Michigan I buy 600 gallons of propane per year I still have 40% from last year and I have a $200 credit for this coming year
100lb tank is 23gal. 23gal. X $2.50/gal. = $57.50 per week to heat the house. Not too bad but why not just get a 2500gal. tank so you don’t need to mess with switching and filling so much? You must live WAY out there so delivery not an option 😂
It would be safe for a mobile home just be wary of where you place it on the wall (not next to something easily flammable) and run the hose to a propane tank outside of the home. Also I would run it on a low setting in a mobile home
Used the same type of heater at my home basement. What happens when your thermocouple quits working..... you have to replace the whole heating unit, because they're not made to be replaced...!
That is not a radiant heater that is a blue flame heater, I have a blue flame heater in my house and a radiant heater both are the same brand and rated at 30,000 BTU, the Blue flame heater does not put out as much heat and it uses more propane, I will never buy another blue flame heater again, You want a radiant heater also called infrared with ceramic plaques, they heat better and are more efficient. If you will notice when the big box stores sell out of heaters in the winter the blue flame are the only ones left on the shelf because they do not work as good.
I live in the cabin up in the mountains I have a Dyna-Glo heater that runs off propane 100 pounders he says his hundred pounders only run for a couple days maybe because it's new construction I don't my Dyna glo with 100 pounder can last up to 1 month . Of course I have a backup which I use now and then that saves on my 100 lb
How long would a small tank last any idea? if that is a 100 pound tank and it lasts 6-7 days I figure 20 pound tank would last a little over a day running non-stop?
So if it last 7 days on 2, it’s easily figured out. Take 100lbs and divide it by 7(100/7=) which will give you 14.2857143lbs of propane a day at number 2. A lot of things come into play like how cold it actually gets and how long you’re planning on being gone for. Off grid wise you’re better off coming up with a DIY geothermal heating system like my step father and I are going to be trying to come up with. Then no matter what you’re building will always be at a constant 50-55 degrees no matter the temperature outside. Look into it it’s called geothermal heating. Yes it can cost thousands if you buy a geothermal heat pump and don’t look into building your own system and falling for the traps but a man who has a brain can easily figure out how to get free heat from the earth. Remember there’s a reason why your water lines are burried below frost and theirs a reason why below frost line never freezes. These propane heaters are not really made for that type of heating they are mad for space heating a room that lacks heat. If you want somthing reliable the only way I see it would be getting a direct vent style Rinnai heater like a kerosine monitor Heater. Look into geothermal especially if you know how a boiler system works or have solar panels. Don’t rely on others for fuel
I hope he has ventilation... Get a CO2 meter. You will be shocked. In case anyone sees this, 100# Tanks hold about 24 Gallons of propane which means about 170 lbs full. We strap the tanks to dolly's and use aluminum ramps to pull to load/unload into the back of our truck. Many just lay the tanks on their side but I don't trust it. Using 24 gallons of propane in one week in the bitter cold in single digits and below is not abnormal... propane prices will vary greatly by area. Sure, it may cost $150-200/mo of propane to heat during winter. Try running an electric heater the entire time and see what happens to your power bill. Let me show you below if you are interested. In December 2023 Propane was $2.68 National Average per gallon. 1 gallon of propane is 91,500 BTUs The National Cost per KWH in December 2023 was $0.1573 per KWh. 91,500 BTUs = 26.812 KWh Now lets convert the cost of electricity 26.812 KWh * $0.1573 = $4.22 So the apples to apples comparison of 1 gallon of propane producing 91,500 BTUs of heating power cost $2.68, or $4.22 for electricity using the national average numbers. That's 57% more expensive. In my case, propane was more like 3.25 per gallon, (18% more) but my electricity rate is .1716 (9% more) so electricity was still 41% more expensive.
What a great breakdown of the costs! Thank you so much! I want to clarify . We are never in the house with the heater running. We ONLY use it as backup to the Woodstove when we leave to prevent Frozen canning and plumbing.
@@Fancysregenerativefarm wonderful to know. There are many indoor safe propane heaters that do not produce Carbon monoxide, BUT the carbon dioxide buildup is insanity. We use an indoor buddy heater to supplement our heat pump as it struggles below 20 degrees. In one hour, the CO2 from a 12000 BTU propane heater reaches over 3000ppm with 2 vent fans (bathroom and kitchen) in our 500 sq ft cabin. Everyone is focused on CO but they forget about CO2 😞 Fresh air is less than 1000ppm poor quality is up to 2500ppm, and over 2500ppm starts to have detrimental health effects. Over 5000ppm is heavily regulated by OSHA in industrial environments.
100 pound propane tank, is approx 23 gallons. propane current market rates are $1.85 per gallon. today $43.00 +/- to fill that tank. So $222.00 per month +/-. 115 gallons per month set on number two.
These are very unhealthy and should be illegal! If it doesn’t vent exhaust outside you don’t want it. Buy a cheap pellet stove and it will pay for itself. You can run it on a small generator in an emergency.
I'm a consenting Adult... it should not be illegal. If I want one i can buy one. If you don't want one you don't have to buy one. Small government is best!
Yeah no info on ventilation, neither for moisture nor for carbon monoxide. There were some pipes behind the heater, that could be an air intake but nothing was mentioned...
@@josephreynolds7505 They are, but that doesn't mean they don't need to a) get oxygen and b) get rid of CO. Most people keep doors and/or windows cracked with propane heaters if they don't have some sort of ventilation system.
The BLUE flame Dyna-Glo are rated for ventless indoor heating. The ORANGE flame ones need to be vented. However, in either case, I would have an oxygen depletion and a CO sensor in the room, just in case.
One of the reasons it might have turned off was the sensor wire is actually in the path of the pilot flame. I've seen them where they get bumped or installed wrong and don't get to the flame. So check that. Also your tank pressure might have been low and when that happens the pilot light is not as "large" and misses the sensor wire. So review your pilot light and sensor wire and make sure they are aligned and close enough. Thanks for the vid.
It would heat it depending on your insulation and climate. However, I think that there are some health concerns with co2. We only use it as a heat source when we leave and are unable to maintain a fire.
@@akbauer2525his tank is 100#. Not 100gal. Propane is roughly $3.30 a gal in my area. Tanks are usually filled about 80% 100# tank is about 20gal so to fill his tank would be roughly $60ish If you live in an area that you wouldn’t have to constantly run it then it’d be more in your favor. If I was him I’d go with a wood heater if that was an option.
Hello, do you have any issues with moisture building up in the attic or walls with this heater? We ran one and condensation was building up in the attic on the ceiling as we have a Metal Roof, just curious if you need to run a dehumidifier with these units?
My homeowners is trying to cancel me over my woodstove which we only use when it gets super cold so im going to replace it with one of these. I found we burn so much wood when its cold it is no cheaper as I have to buy wood.
I have one to install, I've used before, IMPORTANT, These are not vented/chimney exhausted heaters, so you need to keep window cracked open for fresh air, as the unit is burning indoors and indoor air, plus be safe, especially in more confined spaces, get a carbon monoxide detector, not a cheap one either, don't mess with your health or worse, be smart, they are great heaters in time of off grid or power outages, use wisely !
If your house is that airtight you would have to open a window to close the door. As a former contractor, you would be very surprised at how much air exchange your home has. However, as I have repeatedly stated we ONLY USE THE HEATER WHEN WE ARE AWAY! When we are home, we heat with wood.
@@Fancysregenerativefarm My comment was more directed for those not in the 'know', know what i mean and I too, been remodeling & building for years, I know what you mean also, but for those that don't and as I have a fish house, small one room type set ups, you best have some air flow, right.....other wise I knew what you said about heating with wood, being a more northern person, we always had some kind of auxiliary heat, if not 2...And the way this ole world is flip'n so fast, people best figure something up for heat/cook'n, when the sh*t hits the fan here soon....Cheers !
@@Fancysregenerativefarm Oui, il faut revenir au temps des cavernes mais avec un appareil qui n'est pas économique ni écologique, une vraie mauvaise solution ....
Just a thought the flame model will leave black soot above the unit after a while have not noticed soot with the models with ceramic panels mine has 3 panels where 1 2 or 3 panels can radiate have not noticed soot yet after 3 years
Years ago I had a 5 burner in my trailer, while my Granny wanted to go with the new updated blue flame technology. I never noticed any soot or any residue in either. Mine was more radiant heat like from a wood stove, hers really did seem to send the heat out quicker in the beginning. After both places were warm, I'd say basically equal. Others may have a different opinion than mine, but I was seriously worried about my Granny trying something new and fandangled.
@@randymcphink3924 I still use the heater with the flame had it going on 20 years with minimal maintenance just a cleaning when the flame goes from blue to yellow and still works great
@deadnorth8333 basic maintenance is the key. Of course for my Granny, she was told no maintenance (typical for new products), but me being young and stupid and her growing up to believe and trust into others, we learned the mistakes fairly early. As I said, they are very similar, different heat at first, later, I couldn't tell much difference. Someone with a more sincitive snout and mind like mine surely may see big differences. I won't knock them if they do (unless I know them personally and that'll be reason to give them hell!!!, lol)
It’s -38 here right now, I topped off a 30lb propane bottle yesterday around 4:00pm an after running it yesterday afternoon and last night I now have approximately half a bottle left an it’s only 10:54 am.. Did not think this heater was going to be this terrible on propane..! To fill that 30lb propane bottle cost me 41.13 .. I even got up durning the night to shut the heater off an thought I’d be good for a while.. NOPE..! Wasn’t the case at all..! I bought the Martin Propane Direct Vent Heater MDV20VP 20000 Btu... Diff NOT IMPRESSED..! Along with the warm temps, also come high humidity. Currently +17, 18 in here with 52% humidity .. Current sq footage of my semi off grid shelter is 384sq/ft.. Yup... am NOT impressed at all..!!!
I've used those heaters for yrs, problem is the one u have is an open flame which aren't near as efficient as the infrared heaters, they throw the heat so much further than the blue flame, I never used the blue open flame after I figured that out havin both to compare
I have one that I have used for years with no problems. I have central heat with propane, but this ventless wall unit is cheaper to run and heats the house very good.
@@Fancysregenerativefarm Interesting, it is probably a good option, I'm planning for black out . How much does it cost to refill your 100 lbs tank ? I have no idea. I'm a Canadian living in chinada. LOL🙃
That pencils out to be a heck of a lot cheaper than frozen broken pipes, me thinks. Besides if it is for "back up" how long are you expecting to be running on back up?
Yes they produce CO2, plants love it. We live at just over 400 ppm CO2 today, at the time of the dinosaurs it was at 2000 plus ppm and could not survive now at 400 ppm. These units have oxygen depletion devices on them that cover CO and CO2. If either or both displace the oxygen levels in a room the unit would shut off on the safety shut off and have to be relit to use again. This would allow you to investigate a possible problem. Out of the box pretty darn safe. CO2 is non toxic unlike CO that is. Really moisture would be a main concern, combustion produces moisture. The oxygen depletion device is the pilot assy itself, pilot needs oxygen to burn so can't fail to function.
My family lived in a house heated with several of these. We never had black mold. The water vapor from propane combustion doesn't magically build up in one spot and create mold. You're assuming that there's zero air exchange between different areas or humidity exchange with the exterior? Not if the house is built properly. Do your research BEFORE you comment.
You are exactly right! We discovered this problem. Fortunatley the wood stove dries things out really well. We only utilize it for short periods if we are away for the day.
NO VENT wall furnaces are not for well insulated areas as they need fresh air...IF no outside air is coming in they will create humidity and walls will start to get mold....Lots of videos on RUclips on this and when buying a non vented heater it will even warn you in the instructions and on the box @@monanddom5933
Good off grid option…..especially a smaller version for our cabin bathroom.
Yes!
A 100lb tank and it only lasted 6-7 days>???? That's not good at all.
100 pound propane tank, is approx 23 gallons. propane current market rates are $1.85 per gallon. today $43.00 +/- to fill that tank. So $222.00 per month +/-. 115 gallons per month set on number two. For what it's worth.
More efficient than how I'm currently doing it. Generator to batteries $40 to fill the generator, needs to run every other day and runs the full tank through each time. Currently working on better options hahaha
That's what I was thinking. I know when we RV full time in the winter our 60lbs lasts us over a month. But again, it's not zero degrees out and only about 350sq ft. I was wondering if a wood pellet stove is more economical.
How do you refill your tank? Do you have to bring the tank to a refilling station?
@@jchao777 most gas stations will have a propane fill tank you can go to.
I install heaters an deliver propane.. running the heater with just the pilot would not over heat the thermocouple.. i have a hearter that i have ran for 4 years straight summer an winter.. usually its dust that makes them shut off like that..
Thank you!
I use a 30,000btu blue flame ventless heater. I have 2 Voda stove fans sitting on a DIY rack. 3 40lb tanks I rotate with. The propane store is just 4 miles away and your size tank is just too much to handle.
You don't get this big moving 40 lbs tanks;)
Thank you for watching!:)
@@Fancysregenerativefarmjust purchased one of these - reading the directions, it recommends 100#. I wonder if I could get by with 25lb grill tank? your thoughts?
The Blue Flame is more a convection heater but they do have the radiant ones with the ceramic heaters. I’ve had both and the radiant heaters are much better imo. They do put off a smell and lots of moisture so it’s advisable to crack a nearby window.
Does the blue flame smell like the ceramic ones?
Thank you
It is a ventless model. As I have said before it is ONLY used as a back up should we be away for more than a day at a time. It does cause condensation which causes black mold if not dried out quickly. Our primary source of heat is wood which dries the condensation up.
Yes, read about these heaters! We developed black mold behind our kitchen cabinets and had to rip everything out and perform special cleaning to get the black mold out. Never again!
Have you had problem with water vapor on your walls and on your windows
Good question 🤔
Yes we have. The wood heat dries it out quickly.
It would be good for power failures in the winter. ❄️ I natural gas furnace but it is forced air.
Yup!
I got a couple of these in my home for supplement heat to my electric heaters and backup heat during blackouts. Not sure why no one mentions it in their reviews but that thin sheet metal Bings, Bangs and Booms as it heats up and cools down all the time, not a big deal but I watched reviews before I bought and no one mentioned it, it startled me when it happened and be prepared folks.
But isn't burning?
Not good for sleeping through!
Does it turn on by self? And turn off when the temp reaches what you want? Looking for one that has a thermostat that’ll turn on when required
Yes.
Yes it turns on and off
Thank you!!!
Cool, thank you so much for your review of this product. I'm currently researching the best options to heat my future 500 square foot cottage.
I believe it will do great! One thing to remember with it being your primary
Heat is the condensation created by the propane heaters over time. It's not a concern if you heat with wood as it is a very "dry" heat and counteract the condensation.
@@Fancysregenerativefarm Do you have any tips for minamizing condensation. Will keeping a window slightly open help or perhaps a solar powered bathroom vent.
I would think a dehumidifier? Maybe only a few hours a day?
@@angelzubia5058 Ventilation. A couple of cracked open windows to keep air movement helps.
it's not a problem with wood..or anything that has a chimney to remove the humid *combustion* air... not all propane heaters exhaust the combustion air to the outside, Best of both worlds (for propane heat) would be a heater with an exhaust vent AND a "condensing" heat exchanger to keep as much heat from going out the chimney as possible. That said If' it's just used to keep the pipes from freezing (40 deg F target) AND people won't be inside the non venting type is a pretty efficient idea that doesn't really need any electricity. Diesel "Parking " heaters are much cheaper to run than propane.
In really cold weather you wont use the last 10-13% of your gas if the tank is sitting in the snow.
Good info!
Mines last 10-14 days give or take
I live in the bboonies of NE AZ. Propane heat is a must during the winter. Snow covers panels and it gets K O L D.
I like boonies! Is it a short season at least?
TY for this. What about ventilation and dangerous combustion gases? I see you have that on an interior wall and when you picked it up I can see there is no exernal vent. So you are burning interior oxygen and exhausting to your interior breathe air. Are you sure that's safe?
It is "supppsed" to be clean burn and safe for interiors. ....like they use to say about deet, aspestos etc..... anyways we only utilize the heater when we leave and are unable to maintain a fire in the woodstove.
You need to open the windows once a day. the same as a fireplace. Honestly, if you have a workshop or a garage or a tiny house and you are looking for an alternative to electric heat, I suggest diesel heater. You'll need to drill a hole in the wall.
better then that buy kerozene heater there no monoxine carbon it really safe that only heater for inside whit window close@@dan_mer
The pilot on these heater have a oxygen depletion system built in. These heater are tested to detect low oxygen and will shut off before dangerous levels will be harmful. Keep in mind you can also install a CO2 alarm system, they are the size of a smoke detector. Some are built together.
thank you
100 pounds cost how much?...love your explanation of the hanging support; wondered about how hard this 72 year old woman can heft.
That's 150 for 6 days, that's too much for this lil' ol' lady.
It's less than thirty pounds!
Yes! Wood is best
Mine runs 1 month on a 100# in the coldest winter I also have out side wood stove when I want to use it out side wood stove is the best way to go but you have fun with your propane junk.
You're gate keeping about a heater. You should really take a moment to consider what in your life lead you to this moment.
That's decent!
Buy the fan kit, it really helps
It's noisy and not effective. Buy after market fans like computer fans but bigger. Or just use a box fan
Would you mind sending me one?:)
No ventilation, no chimney, no nothing. Just a natural convection IN YOUR OWN HOUSE. Where is the evacuation of the conbustion gases? Dude, all those toxic gases will kill you one day. Do something about it!
I don't use it when I'm home. We burn wood!
Nice that you didn't mount it really high like most people do
Hot air rises
What is the sq. footage of the house in this video? Just wanting to know the area it heats for 6-7 days.
900 square feet with 14' vaulted celing
3:05 I thought this unit worked off convection heat, not radiant ?
The blue flame is not a radiant heat, like the older 5 burners were. Easiest way to put it, 5 burners feel more like radiant heat from a wood stove. Blue flame is more of an even heat, similar to a furnace. I know that sounds silly because they are so similar, but I've seen both at the same time, in the same winter. Once warm, I couldn't tell much difference in humidity or anything though. Only downdraw I seen with the blueflame, is the nozzles seem to get more clogged up (more maintenance at beginning of winter, if you don't take precautions. Great stoves and seemed very close to efficiency. Hope this helps. Holler back with any questions and I'll surely give my experience with me and my granny.
I have been using these heaters for a few years now I have a 500 gallon propane tank I know a lot of people push the Buddy heaters I prefer this kind I am happy with them you can't hear them run like a furnace😊
If you’re running two of these everyday, how long does the 500gallon last?
@@brockdyncatron3775 for my house about 1200 square feet I run one heater on each end of the house use less than 600 gal a year
Great info!
@@brockdyncatron3775 we order 600 gallons per year I have a $200 credit plus I have 40% right now
@@brockdyncatron3775 I am in Michigan I buy 600 gallons of propane per year I still have 40% from last year and I have a $200 credit for this coming year
100lb tank is 23gal.
23gal. X $2.50/gal. = $57.50 per week to heat the house.
Not too bad but why not just get a 2500gal. tank so you don’t need to mess with switching and filling so much?
You must live WAY out there so delivery not an option 😂
Nice work
Is safe to use inside a mobile home ? Thanks
It would be safe for a mobile home just be wary of where you place it on the wall (not next to something easily flammable) and run the hose to a propane tank outside of the home. Also I would run it on a low setting in a mobile home
Used the same type of heater at my home basement. What happens when your thermocouple quits working..... you have to replace the whole heating unit, because they're not made to be replaced...!
The purpose of this heater was just to heat our place when we leave. Our priamary source of heat is a woodstove.
Ok, still did a good job for me as my basement heater. Just disappointed that I had to replace it!
That is not a radiant heater that is a blue flame heater, I have a blue flame heater in my house and a radiant heater both are the same brand and rated at 30,000 BTU, the Blue flame heater does not put out as much heat and it uses more propane, I will never buy another blue flame heater again, You want a radiant heater also called infrared with ceramic plaques, they heat better and are more efficient. If you will notice when the big box stores sell out of heaters in the winter the blue flame are the only ones left on the shelf because they do not work as good.
Thank you!
I live in the cabin up in the mountains I have a Dyna-Glo heater that runs off propane 100 pounders he says his hundred pounders only run for a couple days maybe because it's new construction I don't my Dyna glo with 100 pounder can last up to 1 month . Of course I have a backup which I use now and then that saves on my 100 lb
This cabin had an unisulated ceiling!
If you get one of the 5 panel heaters that looks similar....you will throw rocks at the blue flame heater, its heat goes straight to the ceiling.
I think your right!
Absolutely amazing, thank you!
Thanks for watching,!
That guy has his coat hung on a bare wall touching insulation. Something tells me this guy doesn’t think ahead
Some of us work and succeed. Others just watch and talk about what they would do....
How long would a small tank last any idea? if that is a 100 pound tank and it lasts 6-7 days I figure 20 pound tank would last a little over a day running non-stop?
I tried running mine on 20 tank it won't work only short period of time it says on box 100 LP tank is what u have to use
So if it last 7 days on 2, it’s easily figured out. Take 100lbs and divide it by 7(100/7=) which will give you 14.2857143lbs of propane a day at number 2. A lot of things come into play like how cold it actually gets and how long you’re planning on being gone for. Off grid wise you’re better off coming up with a DIY geothermal heating system like my step father and I are going to be trying to come up with. Then no matter what you’re building will always be at a constant 50-55 degrees no matter the temperature outside. Look into it it’s called geothermal heating. Yes it can cost thousands if you buy a geothermal heat pump and don’t look into building your own system and falling for the traps but a man who has a brain can easily figure out how to get free heat from the earth. Remember there’s a reason why your water lines are burried below frost and theirs a reason why below frost line never freezes. These propane heaters are not really made for that type of heating they are mad for space heating a room that lacks heat. If you want somthing reliable the only way I see it would be getting a direct vent style Rinnai heater like a kerosine monitor Heater. Look into geothermal especially if you know how a boiler system works or have solar panels. Don’t rely on others for fuel
So the name and model number is what?
Dyna-Glo IR30PMDG-1 30,000 BTU Liquid - I think this is the one he has. It's what I just found at Amazon. Early in the video he says the name.
I hope he has ventilation... Get a CO2 meter. You will be shocked.
In case anyone sees this, 100# Tanks hold about 24 Gallons of propane which means about 170 lbs full.
We strap the tanks to dolly's and use aluminum ramps to pull to load/unload into the back of our truck. Many just lay the tanks on their side but I don't trust it.
Using 24 gallons of propane in one week in the bitter cold in single digits and below is not abnormal... propane prices will vary greatly by area.
Sure, it may cost $150-200/mo of propane to heat during winter. Try running an electric heater the entire time and see what happens to your power bill.
Let me show you below if you are interested.
In December 2023 Propane was $2.68 National Average per gallon. 1 gallon of propane is 91,500 BTUs
The National Cost per KWH in December 2023 was $0.1573 per KWh.
91,500 BTUs = 26.812 KWh
Now lets convert the cost of electricity
26.812 KWh * $0.1573 = $4.22
So the apples to apples comparison of 1 gallon of propane producing 91,500 BTUs of heating power cost $2.68, or $4.22 for electricity using the national average numbers.
That's 57% more expensive.
In my case, propane was more like 3.25 per gallon, (18% more) but my electricity rate is .1716 (9% more) so electricity was still 41% more expensive.
What a great breakdown of the costs! Thank you so much! I want to clarify . We are never in the house with the heater running. We ONLY use it as backup to the Woodstove when we leave to prevent Frozen canning and plumbing.
@@Fancysregenerativefarm wonderful to know. There are many indoor safe propane heaters that do not produce Carbon monoxide, BUT the carbon dioxide buildup is insanity. We use an indoor buddy heater to supplement our heat pump as it struggles below 20 degrees. In one hour, the CO2 from a 12000 BTU propane heater reaches over 3000ppm with 2 vent fans (bathroom and kitchen) in our 500 sq ft cabin.
Everyone is focused on CO but they forget about CO2 😞
Fresh air is less than 1000ppm poor quality is up to 2500ppm, and over 2500ppm starts to have detrimental health effects. Over 5000ppm is heavily regulated by OSHA in industrial environments.
If you closed the door it would be warmer in the house. Just saying escamo joe
Lol!
100 pound propane tank, is approx 23 gallons. propane current market rates are $1.85 per gallon. today $43.00 +/- to fill that tank. So $222.00 per month +/-. 115 gallons per month set on number two.
How many hours does a 100 pound tank last?
@@chapingt9572 He said it in the video.
Recent propane delivered was $3.15 gal..
Refill station cost is $3.56 gal..
@ your cost I'd take 250 gals if I could!!
@@ellafields9424 look into market rates, your supplier might be ripping you. I am still @ $1.85
These are very unhealthy and should be illegal! If it doesn’t vent exhaust outside you don’t want it. Buy a cheap pellet stove and it will pay for itself. You can run it on a small generator in an emergency.
Well said. These are the worst heaters you can pit anywhere. They may heat up a room but the health risks are too high.
I'm a consenting Adult... it should not be illegal. If I want one i can buy one. If you don't want one you don't have to buy one. Small government is best!
@@Fancysregenerativefarm true, but limited people need to be protected from themselves!
Might be a dumb question but what about exhaust? Looking to run something in a small 12x12 shop minimal ventilation.
Yeah no info on ventilation, neither for moisture nor for carbon monoxide. There were some pipes behind the heater, that could be an air intake but nothing was mentioned...
I think these heaters are ventless
@@josephreynolds7505 They are, but that doesn't mean they don't need to a) get oxygen and b) get rid of CO. Most people keep doors and/or windows cracked with propane heaters if they don't have some sort of ventilation system.
The BLUE flame Dyna-Glo are rated for ventless indoor heating. The ORANGE flame ones need to be vented. However, in either case, I would have an oxygen depletion and a CO sensor in the room, just in case.
One of the reasons it might have turned off was the sensor wire is actually in the path of the pilot flame. I've seen them where they get bumped or installed wrong and don't get to the flame. So check that. Also your tank pressure might have been low and when that happens the pilot light is not as "large" and misses the sensor wire. So review your pilot light and sensor wire and make sure they are aligned and close enough. Thanks for the vid.
Good info!
Would one of these heat a 1700 sq ft house one story house?
It would heat it depending on your insulation and climate. However, I think that there are some health concerns with co2. We only use it as a heat source when we leave and are unable to maintain a fire.
good review. plus he sounds like Fozzy bear from the muppets.. win win
Put in ceiling fan(s) for better deficiency.
Yes a great idea! It is difficult to collect enough solar energy, during the winter, to run a ceiling fan in our neck of the woods
Good tutorial video...... Thanks
Thanks for watching my antics!
How much does the tank cost to fill for that 6 days? thanks
20# tank about $15. 100 gal tank about $300. Usually keeps very comfortable 70 def F for a month-ish. Much better than electric heat.
@@akbauer2525his tank is 100#. Not 100gal.
Propane is roughly $3.30 a gal in my area. Tanks are usually filled about 80%
100# tank is about 20gal so to fill his tank would be roughly $60ish
If you live in an area that you wouldn’t have to constantly run it then it’d be more in your favor. If I was him I’d go with a wood heater if that was an option.
@@adamseth328 didn’t he say his primary heat was wood and he used this heater when they are gone and can’t fill the wood stove ?
thank you for the product links so thoughtful
Your welcome
dont forget that the only heater for enclose building is kerozene heater
True about kerosene, but this particular blue flame Dyna-Glo is rated for ventless indoor heating
Ok!
What do set regulator from 0-30 psi?
You need 14 WC
Helped me fix mine wasn't holding the gas long enough appreciate it
I'm sorry!
No, it’s not the best.
Inferred is the best
Probably! Thanks for your ideas!
Great video! Thanks for the info!
Expensive .of the grid wood is much cheaper
We use wood as our primary heat.
Not nearly as expensive as sending someone to school so they can actually understand what was said in this video, eh?
Hello, do you have any issues with moisture building up in the attic or walls with this heater? We ran one and condensation was building up in the attic on the ceiling as we have a Metal Roof, just curious if you need to run a dehumidifier with these units?
Yes. The wood heat will dry it out though!
Great video! Thank you!
My homeowners is trying to cancel me over my woodstove which we only use when it gets super cold so im going to replace it with one of these. I found we burn so much wood when its cold it is no cheaper as I have to buy wood.
Hang on to that wood stove until your dying breath!
I have one to install, I've used before, IMPORTANT, These are not vented/chimney exhausted heaters, so you need to keep window cracked open for fresh air, as the unit is burning indoors and indoor air, plus be safe, especially in more confined spaces, get a carbon monoxide detector, not a cheap one either, don't mess with your health or worse, be smart, they are great heaters in time of off grid or power outages, use wisely !
If your house is that airtight you would have to open a window to close the door. As a former contractor, you would be very surprised at how much air exchange your home has. However, as I have repeatedly stated we ONLY USE THE HEATER WHEN WE ARE AWAY! When we are home, we heat with wood.
@@Fancysregenerativefarm My comment was more directed for those not in the 'know', know what i mean and I too, been remodeling & building for years, I know what you mean also, but for those that don't and as I have a fish house, small one room type set ups, you best have some air flow, right.....other wise I knew what you said about heating with wood, being a more northern person, we always had some kind of auxiliary heat, if not 2...And the way this ole world is flip'n so fast, people best figure something up for heat/cook'n, when the sh*t hits the fan here soon....Cheers !
Excellent video. Do you think this would run off of a 5lb tank or might there be pressure issues?
Yes it will!
retour au début du ,20 eme siècle, c'est vraiment n'importe quoi...
This lifestyle is not for everyone, its only for the tough and independent.
@@Fancysregenerativefarm Oui, il faut revenir au temps des cavernes mais avec un appareil qui n'est pas économique ni écologique, une vraie mauvaise solution ....
Just a thought the flame model will leave black soot above the unit after a while have not noticed soot with the models with ceramic panels mine has 3 panels where 1 2 or 3 panels can radiate have not noticed soot yet after 3 years
Propane burns clean has no carbon so no soot
Years ago I had a 5 burner in my trailer, while my Granny wanted to go with the new updated blue flame technology. I never noticed any soot or any residue in either. Mine was more radiant heat like from a wood stove, hers really did seem to send the heat out quicker in the beginning. After both places were warm, I'd say basically equal. Others may have a different opinion than mine, but I was seriously worried about my Granny trying something new and fandangled.
@@randymcphink3924 I still use the heater with the flame had it going on 20 years with minimal maintenance just a cleaning when the flame goes from blue to yellow and still works great
@deadnorth8333 basic maintenance is the key. Of course for my Granny, she was told no maintenance (typical for new products), but me being young and stupid and her growing up to believe and trust into others, we learned the mistakes fairly early. As I said, they are very similar, different heat at first, later, I couldn't tell much difference. Someone with a more sincitive snout and mind like mine surely may see big differences. I won't knock them if they do (unless I know them personally and that'll be reason to give them hell!!!, lol)
Ceramic may be better!
how much is that 100lbs tank cost to fill? Lasting only 7 days is not great is it.
It is only to keep the place from freezing when we leave. We heat with wood!
Will it work with a 20 lb propane tank
The install instructions for these stoves specify a 100lbs tank minimum.
Best to follow the instructions!
How does it not kill you?
I'm still alive! Thanks for checking!
Good video!
It’s -38 here right now, I topped off a 30lb propane bottle yesterday around 4:00pm an after running it yesterday afternoon and last night I now have approximately half a bottle left an it’s only 10:54 am..
Did not think this heater was going to be this terrible on propane..! To fill that 30lb propane bottle cost me 41.13 ..
I even got up durning the night to shut the heater off an thought I’d be good for a while.. NOPE..! Wasn’t the case at all..!
I bought the Martin Propane Direct Vent Heater MDV20VP 20000 Btu...
Diff NOT IMPRESSED..!
Along with the warm temps, also come high humidity. Currently +17, 18 in here with 52% humidity ..
Current sq footage of my semi off grid shelter is 384sq/ft..
Yup... am NOT impressed at all..!!!
Wow! You need a wood stove! Not fun at all!
Insullation! Id invest in some R30
Insulation! Id invest in some R30
I've used those heaters for yrs, problem is the one u have is an open flame which aren't near as efficient as the infrared heaters, they throw the heat so much further than the blue flame, I never used the blue open flame after I figured that out havin both to compare
Great info! Thank you!
infrared is more dangerous - read a lot about this!
Does it have a glass to protect flame from blowing out?
We try not to let the wind inside our home!:) lol
Please talk about how much it cost to fill that tank and how much it cost to heat your home
Lots of smart folks doing the math in the comments!
You make a great video. You explained it all very clearly. Looks like a wise choice in heating products.
Glad it was helpful!
Not vented ??
No!
This heater is a piece of crap. I bought one and it never worked.
I have one that has worked with no problems for years. It heats my house very well.
I got a dyna glo cabinet propane heater .. less than a year gotta replace thermo couple already. China made
That sucks!
A thermostat controlled unit would be more better.
Yes!
Very informative. Good video.. New sub here.. Howdy y'all
Howdy! Thanks for watching.
Do you have to lug that 100 pounder to town to fill it?
I didn't get strong by sitting on the couch!:)
Great Video. How do you refill your tank?
you bring it to a store and they refill it
A 100 lb tank is gonna be VERY heavy to move around. 2...40lb tanks connected together is much more manageable
@@LarryeWhite61Most of these specify a 100lbs tank minimum.
They deliver it
Do you have to crack a window the the blue flame version?
No, if oxygen is depleted in the room the pilot is designed to shut off.
No I don't! Condensation is a problem without the wood heat to dry it out
Is this heater good for sleaping i this room. Thanks
no its ventless
We do not. We heat with wood and use the Propane for heating while we are away!
That tank is to close to your house
So is a city natural gas line. It must be done right!
You heat your whole house with it?
Yes when we leave! We use wood otherwise
Ventless gas heaters are only for emergency use and for a very short time. Stop using them for cheap permanent heat.
Eh. Mine works great for supplemental heat in the house. No moisture issues, no CO issues. Of course it's only turned in when I'm downstairs
I have one that I have used for years with no problems. I have central heat with propane, but this ventless wall unit is cheaper to run and heats the house very good.
It's ok! You don't have to if you don't want too!
How many BTUs is your #2 setting?
Well it’s a 30k btu heat and it has five settings so 30k divided by five is 6k btus so setting 1 is 6k setting 2 is 12k.
I'm unsure!
Nice info! Thank you!
6 or 7 days for that size tank is only beneficial in case of emergency only. Wish I had known that before just purchasing this one.
Gotta do a little research dawg this is the Internet
You are not limited to using that size of a tank. Park a railroad car sized tank out side the back door and you will be set ;-)
Square footage is a factor too.
I should have mentioned that we hit 20 below for weeks on end!
Thanks for sharing
No problem I'm always game to offer my opinion!
@@Fancysregenerativefarm Interesting, it is probably a good option, I'm planning for black out . How much does it cost to refill your 100 lbs tank ? I have no idea. I'm a Canadian living in chinada. LOL🙃
It's a great thing to plan for. It costs about $80- $100
@@FancysregenerativefarmEEE GADS! Who thinks $340.-$430/ mos when you're not there is a worthwhile expenditure...?
@@ackack612 It beats frozen/broken pipes. Its not a good primary source of heat due to the expense. But the more your there the less you use.
I would get that for a back up but in Canada that would cost quite a bit if that tank only lasts a week.
That pencils out to be a heck of a lot cheaper than frozen broken pipes, me thinks. Besides if it is for "back up" how long are you expecting to be running on back up?
@@OlTrailDog I would use it when if I get sick and can't cut wood perhaps put it on before I go to bed if I want to sleep in.
Yes it wood!
Lol
The fan kit is not for moving the heated air, it's for keeping the heater cool so it lasts longer.
Ok great info!
Wath about the CO2 coming of the heater?
It's what they call a clean burn. You can place a carbon monoxide detector directly in front or above it and it will not set it off.
Yes they produce CO2, plants love it. We live at just over 400 ppm CO2 today, at the time of the dinosaurs it was at 2000 plus ppm and could not survive now at 400 ppm. These units have oxygen depletion devices on them that cover CO and CO2. If either or both displace the oxygen levels in a room the unit would shut off on the safety shut off and have to be relit to use again. This would allow you to investigate a possible problem. Out of the box pretty darn safe. CO2 is non toxic unlike CO that is. Really moisture would be a main concern, combustion produces moisture. The oxygen depletion device is the pilot assy itself, pilot needs oxygen to burn so can't fail to function.
Wrong
All that water vapor from combustion is going to cause black mold.
My family lived in a house heated with several of these. We never had black mold. The water vapor from propane combustion doesn't magically build up in one spot and create mold. You're assuming that there's zero air exchange between different areas or humidity exchange with the exterior? Not if the house is built properly. Do your research BEFORE you comment.
You are exactly right! We discovered this problem. Fortunatley the wood stove dries things out really well. We only utilize it for short periods if we are away for the day.
Be careful running a NO VENT heater as they create moisture. Moisture will start to drip and cause dangerous mold.
Cn u give more details please
NO VENT wall furnaces are not for well insulated areas as they need fresh air...IF no outside air is coming in they will create humidity and walls will start to get mold....Lots of videos on RUclips on this and when buying a non vented heater it will even warn you in the instructions and on the box
@@monanddom5933
Yes it does!